Ralston Attempts Hijack of Radio NZ SuperCity Debate

Written By: - Date published: 1:57 pm, September 13th, 2010 - 35 comments
Categories: auckland supercity, john banks, len brown, spin - Tags:

In the lecture theatre that the Radio NZ SuperCity debate was held this morning Len Brown clearly and easily won – but how did it appear on radio?

Bill Ralston and his coterie did his best to even up the perceptions.  The front row had the “Panel” of Todd Niall (RNZ Auckland Issues reporter) and David Wilson (AUT Public Policy expert); the second row was for VIPs.  Bill had brought a group along with him early and with his VIP invite sat immediately behind the Panel and their microphones.  Result: loud cheering from Bill & co for Banks and most of the audience cheering for Brown no doubt getting similar levels of noise on the radio.  This was the “front row” that Len Brown was referring to during the debate.

Even then Banks tried to take credit for some of Len’s applause – generating much laughter from the audience.

From inside there was an entertaining debate with Brown as a clear winner, going by audience appreciation; Banks repeated his clichés – ‘affordable progress’ drew groans every time, and ‘can-do council’ eyeball-rolling; and Andrew Williams spoke well again – he seems good on the hustings, if lacking in supporters.

From outside things were somewhat more muddled.  Audience noise clouded good political hits.  And Radio NZ does need to institute a station-wide policy of naming their guests more often.  Having 3 short white middle-aged experienced political men competing it’s not always so easy to distinguish them – in person Brown stands out as lighter on weight and hair, but the radio audience fails to get that.  Indeed Brown spoke of diversity being Auckland’s point of difference, but one wouldn’t have got that from looking at the candidates or the audience – hopefully under his mayoralty we could encourage more participation from the whole of Auckland, rather than just the elite.

Because the elite is where the right like to keep it.  They will never win if everyone became engaged in democracy.  So they push the talk about who will be best able to talk to the government – the John Banks in their pocket or someone more independent of them.  This fails to take account of the fact that with 1/3 of the population, whoever the government is, they’ll have to talk to Auckland.  Lose Auckland like they lost Christchurch over the ECan sacking and they’ll lose government.

But overall still too little policy and vision.  John Banks won’t build the airport train link that every other major city has and is so badly needed.  They’ll all borrow from the future to pay for Auckland’s past lack of infrastructure spending.  Social policy is at least on Len Brown’s agenda.  There was nothing on interaction with Local Boards, which Len Brown supports giving more power to in the interests of real democracy, and John Banks is very silent over.  They all support the inner-city loop, so that might at least happen; the 2nd harbour crossing might get postponed until crisis time under Banks, but all 3 want it.

So it’ll partly come down to who do you trust?  Banks with his history of re-sanding beaches over giving the poorer areas any development, Ralston spinning his appearances and repetitive soundbites and WhaleOil as his chief bully-boy; or Brown who oversaw vastly superior economic growth in Manukau whilst maintaining greater levels of social programs to ensure that fewer were actually left behind?

If you’re in Auckland: just make sure you and your neighbours and friends vote.

35 comments on “Ralston Attempts Hijack of Radio NZ SuperCity Debate”

  1. hurr 1

    if you didnt listen to it the link for the entire debate is here

    http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/20100913

  2. David Beatson has an Auckland mayoral candidate debate tonight (13 Sep 8pm Triangle TV Auckland) and repeated tomorrow (14 Sep 7.30pm Stratos TV Freeview satellite) with Andrew Williams, Len Brown, Colin Craig and Simon Prast.
    Banks declined to attend.

    • prism 2.1

      Banks must be very busy speaking elsewhere to turn down such a valuable chance to strut his stuff. But then perhaps Bank was afraid of too much healthy sunlight. Leads to sunburn and feeling hot, sweaty and uncomfortable.

  3. tea 3

    When did Ralston become such a bitch? I liked backch@t

  4. Carol 4

    Thanks for the background on the live event. But, in spite of Ralston et al’s attempts, it still sounded to me on the radio that Brown got the best and most favourable audience response.

    Agree on your analysis of the lack of diversity in the candidates, and limited focus on issues the community really is interested in.

  5. tc 5

    When he accepted frasers offer to be chief TVNZ news Whore he was required to undergo bitch development……little did they know he already had a masters in it.

  6. Jum 6

    Heard the chattering classes of Ralston. It was a little obvious when you considered what they were clapping; Banks’ thoughtful and original answers – LOL.

    I was interested to hear about Williams’ export experience. I could certainly see Len Brown as Mayor and Andrew Williams as his deputy. Both have good records in their areas and could prove their promise to be inclusive and work as a team.

    Banks? Put him on the door of Council as bouncer and the next time Penny Bright comes to call to defend one of the Aucklanders in danger of having their house sold because they hadn’t paid a water bill which was incorrect anyway, yet Bright (Mayoral hopeful) was thrown out by Banks without any chance to plead their rightful case, under urgency; watch him try to throw her out then. She and her supporters will give him a right drubbing.

    Penny Bright, as official Public Watchdog, especially in relation to the safety of our water and water infrastructure, would be a useful addition to Council on the Water CCO.

    • Uroskin 6.1

      Williams was an excellent Trade Commissioner for Belgium and Luxembourg. I remember fondly the mini tennis court he set up in Vulcan Lane outside the Occidental Belgian Cafe when the first Wimbledon semi-final between two Belgian players, Justine Henin and Kim Clijsters, happened in 2006 – all to promote Belgian beer!
      I somehow can’t see neither Banks nor Brown do something fun like that.

      Disclaimer: I’m from Belgium.

  7. comedy 7

    “I could certainly see Len Brown as Mayor and Andrew Williams as his deputy”

    Only if you’ve been taking hallucinogens – Williams is a fucking nutjob.

    • lprent 7.1

      Williams is a fucking nutjob.

      Compared to John Banks? Banks has managed to claim that title for his entire political career. At the worst possible interpretation (ie Whales) Williams would be a mere nutter by comparison.

      I remember John Banks as the most idiotic Police Minister amongst a sterling crowd of them. A raving dysfunctional lunatic during his first term as Mayor. Hell he even makes the short political history of Cameron Slater look sane.

      • Lanthanide 7.1.1

        I don’t really know much about John Bank’s history at all. What do you think he is such a loon?

      • comedy 7.1.2

        Williams makes Banks look positively mainstream and normal – he’s very very odd, sort of like an unholy love child of Tim Shadbolt and Michael Laws

        • the sprout 7.1.2.1

          none is more truly odd than Banks. a deeply damaged person.

        • RobertM 7.1.2.2

          The standard of mayoral candidates is so low, that Metro a useful publication is wasting its time and circulation covering the campaign. No one would waste time reading about them. But to suggest that Williams is in the same class of hunch backed depravity as that twisted Waitaki Boys high oldboy Micheal Laws. There are two features of Laws three hours of cynicism and hate in the mornings. First Laws refuses to take any calls on Nazis for the simple reason that he is fundamentally a supporter. Laws general policy is pure Nazi steralize the mentally ill, prostitutes and unemployed anybody he disagrees with. The first Nazi step in l933 was to lock down the hard red suburbs of Berlin and begin to steralise the proletariat. The Nazis had no support among the working class or unemployed. It cost money to be a Nazi, the uniforms were very expensive and you had to pay to attend any meeting. It was just like Act. Hitler did not try to attract the votes of the unemployed, every Hitler speech between 1930-33 was a relentless attack of the unemployed as bludgers. That is the real truth.
          The second Law law lie is that homosexual and gay are naturally oriented that way.
          And have no interest in woman. The truth is most are bisexual. Even Bruce Chatwin, Marpelthorpe and Christopher Hitchens had many affairs and sex with many beautiful women. Neither is there any truth that most gays and bis are converting to homoism. The truth is more likely to be the other way.Most return to being hetro. That is the evidence in California and Australia and probably anywhere in the universe outside K road.
          Laws is such a bit of despicable cowardly perverted trash that it is indescribable.What a hopeless little country this is, when the cynical party mangers put up idiots like Brown and Banks.

        • bbfloyd 7.1.2.3

          C… which cave have you been squatting in for the last thirty years? bank’s record of idiocy stretches back to his first days in parliament. all you have to go on regarding williams is a banks sponsored smear campaign. don’t you have the wit to realise what a fool you look using nonsense arguments like this?

    • Bunji 7.2

      Our government may lack its famed so-called “aspirational” mindset in deciding Auckland can’t afford a Commonwealth Games, but only one mayoral candidate is mad enough to think we could go Olympic…

      • comedy 7.2.1

        And another is running on a P ticket – oh joy for such high calibre loons to choose from !

        Can’t really say I’m motivated to vote for any of them ….. and I suspect those standing for council/community boards will be just as bad.

        • Bunji 7.2.1.1

          You are a cynical soul aren’t you? Nobody ever works for the good of the people, do they?

          I know too many good people working for society’s benefit in the political system to share your lack of faith…

          • comedy 7.2.1.1.1

            And I know too many examples of troughing egotists, loonies, political ideologues and nepotists amongst the elected representatives to share in your faith, I’m sure there are good people but I believe they are in the minority.

            • nzfp 7.2.1.1.1.1

              “I’m sure there are good people but I believe they are in the minority” – Then get active and get in there man – local government body elections coming up!!!

  8. ghostwhowalksnz 8

    If they build an ‘airport train link’ Ill be one of those lying down in front of the bulldozers to stop it

  9. Jum 9

    Liar Comedy,

    You’re just trying to turn everyone off all candidates except Banks, which you intend to vote for – you Crosby and Textor stooge, you.

  10. Jum 10

    Stop telling me I’m on hallucinogens and I’ll stop calling you a liar, nutjob.

    • comedy 10.1

      My bad – if you’re not on hallucinogens it must just be that you’re retarded………. or drunk …. FFS YOU ARE ANDREW WILLIAMS !!!

  11. Jum 11

    PS, Comedy, I’ll put you on the Right Wing Tantrums thread if you don’t behave yourself.

    • comedy 11.1

      Yes I’m so right wing ………. well not really at all in fact unless you use the DTB definition.

      • felix 11.1.1

        Oh, there are tell-tale signs. Like the way you hold politicians in contempt; the left wing ones you deride as fuckwit lefties and the right wing ones as fuckwit politicians.

        It’s far more transparent than you seem to think it is.

        • comedy 11.1.1.1

          Oh noes oh noes – I believe in publicly funded healthcare, publicly funded education etc etc but I am a right wing nut job because according to Felix….

          “Like the way you hold politicians in contempt; the left wing ones you deride as fuckwit lefties and the right wing ones as fuckwit politicians.”

          No wonder we get the same old party political bullshit in central and local governments …….. yous isn’t on my team so yous must be on their team …….. fuckwit

  12. BLiP 12

    I’m relatively heartened by this report of the debate . . . it indicates certain sweaty desperation when the Right bring out their bully boys to barrack from the front row.

  13. randal 13

    bill ralston is a manque and a parvenu.
    his bullying qualities are usually well hidden behind his hail fellow well met persona but underneath he is just another grubbing stock jobber.

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    Eighteen months ago, the government promised to strengthen the Bill of Rights Act, by explicitly affirming the power of the courts to issue declarations of inconsistency and requiring Parliament to formally respond to them. So how's that going? I was curious, so I asked for all advice about the proposal. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
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  • Warning! Warning! Danger Jacinda Ardern! Danger Marama Davidson! Warning!
    Lost In Political Space: The most important takeaway from this latest Labour sexual assault scandal, which (if I may paraphrase Nixon’s White House counsel’s, John Dean’s, infamous description of Watergate) is “growing like a cancer” on the premiership, is the Labour Party organisation’s extraordinary professional paralysis in the face of ...
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  • Climate Change: The wrong kind of trees?
    Newsroom today has an excellent, in-depth article on pine trees as carbon sinks. The TL;DR is that pine is really good at soaking up carbon, but people prefer far-less efficient native forests instead. Which is understandable, but there's two problems: firstly, we've pissed about so long on this problem that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
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  • No freedom of speech in Turkey
    Canan Kaftancioglu is a Turkish politician and member of the opposition Republican People's Party (CHP). Like most modern politicians, she tweets, and uses the platform to criticise the Turkish government. She has criticised them over the death of a 14-year-old boy who was hit by a tear gas grenade during ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
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  • Speaker: Tadhg Stopford: Why I’m standing for the ADHB
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  • Good little vassals
    The Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has published their report on whether the SIS and GCSB had any complicity in American torture. And its damning. The pull quote is this:The Inquiry found both agencies, but to a much greater degree, the NZSIS, received many intelligence reports obtained from detainees who, ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
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  • Who Shall We Turn To When God, And Uncle Sam, Cease To Defend New Zealand?
    Bewhiskered Cassandra? Professor Hugh White’s chilling suggestion, advanced to select collections of academic, military and diplomatic Kiwi experts over the course of the past week, is that the assumptions upon which Australia and New Zealand have built their foreign affairs and defence policies for practically their entire histories – are ...
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    For most of the time I was a British MP, my party was out of government – these were the Thatcher years, when it was hard for anyone else to get a look-in. As a front-bencher and shadow minister, I became familiar with the strategies required in a parliamentary democracy ...
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  • More expert comments on the Canadian fluoride-IQ paper
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  • Air New Zealand identifies this enormous plot of unused land as possible second airport site
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  • Redline on the Labour Party
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  • New Fisk
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
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  • Labour’s failure
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Ardern attempts to vaccinate Clarke Gayford live on television to prove that it’s safe
    Gayford, pictured here on The Project, before things got wildly out of control. A bold public relations move by the Government to encourage parents to vaccinate their children has gone horribly wrong. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern appeared on tonight’s episode of Three’s The Project, where the plan was for her ...
    The CivilianBy admin
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  • Has Mr. Whippy gone too far by parking on our front lawns?
    Mr. Whippy’s business model has driven it down a dark road of intimidation. Residents in major centres around the country are becoming disgruntled by the increasingly aggressive actions of purported ice cream company Mr. Whippy, who have taken to parking on people’s front lawns and doorsteps in a desperate attempt ...
    The CivilianBy admin
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  • Cleaning up the water
    Today the government released its Action Plan for Healthy Waterways, aimed at cleaning up our lakes and rivers. Its actually quite good. There will be protection for wetlands, better standards for swimming spots, a requirement for continuous improvement, and better standards for wastewater and stormwater. But most importantly, there's a ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Fronting up
    Today I appeared before the Environment Committee to give an oral submission on the Zero Carbon Bill. Over 1,500 people have asked to appear in person, so they've divided into subcommittees and are off touring the country, giving people a five minute slot each. The other submitters were a mixed ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
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  • Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear
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    2 weeks ago

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