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I am (shamelessly) reposting this for the week day shift. I have added BLiP’s comment from the first posting to the end of it.
There’s a confusing amount of detail swirling around the release of SIS briefing notes to Cameron Slater – one of the main issues summarised in Dirty Politics. I was certainly confused earlier in the week, so I set out to pull together a timeline of events.
TLDR? Key is responsible for the release. For the long version read on.
Update: Hooton and Williams on Nine to Noon on the SIS release
The 2011 incident behind all this is the possible operation of Israeli spies in NZ and an SIS investigation into this. By far the best summary is here. Phil Goff denied that he was briefed by the SIS. Briefing notes (redacted) from the SIS contradicting Goff were released under the OIA to Slater, who published them. Was there political interference in the process? To what extent was Key and his office involved?
Here’s a timeline.
My comments are in italics.
2011
July 20
Following an article in the Southland Times the original story (involving possible Israeli spies and the SIS) breaks. Interview with Key: “Speaking to reporters in San Francisco this afternoon, Mr Key said there was a police and SIS investigation because of the rapid way in which the Israelis left the country after the February earthquake. … Currently on tour in the US, he said it was “not in the national interest” to give details of any SIS inquiry.
July 23
Key’s US visit ends and he goes to Hawaii on holiday.
July 24
John Key on Q&A – conducted while he was in Hawaii
Phil Goff was briefed, yeah, that’s right. I personally didn’t brief him, but my understanding from the director of SIS, Warren Tucker, is that he was briefed and he was shown the same note and report that I saw.
Note that Key and Tucker have been in touch about this while Key is not in NZ – so they certainly communicate while Key is abroad.
July 24
“John Key says the SIS briefed Phil Goff about the behaviour of Israeli nationals in Christchurch. Mr Goff contacts SIS director Dr Warren Tucker to say he had not been briefed.”
July 25
“Mr Goff and Dr Tucker meet to discuss the matter.”
July 25
Whaleoil post “Goff Needs to go”
“All someone has to do now is ask Warren Tucker to produce the briefing notes and Goff is a goner.”
July 26
Dirty Politics, Chapter 3: “The following day [July 26] he [Slater] sent a carefully worded information request to Tucker [SIS] asking for copies of the briefing notes and ‘details of any acknowledgement’ that Goff had read them [6]” … “The released documents were stamped as being declassified on 26 July 2011, the same day that Slater sent off his request.”
Who declassified these documents? What authority is required to do that? Polity blog 2014: “The classified SIS documents were almost immediately declassified, for reasons nobody has explained.”
July 28
Dirty Politics, Chapter 3, discussion between Slater and “Smith”: “I’ll finish him [Goff] off in the next couple of days. ‘More dirt?’ Smith asked. ‘Can’t say right now,’ Slater said. ‘I’m sworn to secrecy. But it will be catastrophic.’
Who swore Slater to secrecy? How did he know it will be “catastrophic”?
July 31
Key returns from holiday.
Key says he was on holiday when all this took place, but note the time gap until…
August 2
Documents released to Slater.
Fairfax had requested the same document a few days earlier and the SIS refused to release it to them. (Text since deleted from this article but still available on Google reads: “The documents were released to Slater six days after he requested them, but a request from Fairfax Media for the same documents was denied.”). A third request, the documents were requested by Selwyn Manning at Scoop on 29 July and released to him 8th August. Manning: “As I understand it, the Dominion Post put in one that was very closely worded [to mine] but didn’t get a response. I am left to consider whether my OIA request was in some way used to legitimise the security information drop to the Whaleoil site.”
The SIS claim is that Slater’s request was actioned so quickly, and apparently preferentially, because it was more specifically worded than other requests. Hmmmm.
August 2
(Whaledump: Slater & Bhatnagar chat, edited for clarity)
Slater: Should be a big day tomorrow
if my PO Box has a nice brown envelope with OHMS on it
I OIAd the briefing minutes and notes for Goff’s SIS briefing
it has been expedited
in the public interest
it is devastating for Goff I am told
August 3
(Whaledump: Slater & Bhatnagar chat, edited for clarity)
Bhatnagar: did the package arrive?
Slater: nope
getting really annoyed
will check again tonight and again in teh am
probably going to be ganked by MSM in Wgtn getting the docs first which will be annoying
August 4
(Whaledump: Slater & Bhatnagar chat, edited for clarity)
Bhatnagar: I take it you have a deal with one of the TV channels over the SIS reply?
Slater: yep tv3
Bhatnagar: garner?
Slater: yep
other media are now calling
feeding frenzy
August 4
Whaleoil post releasing the redacted SIS briefing notes. “Phil Goff and his briefings he never had”
A summary at this point from Dirty Politics, Chapter 3: “Slater had been ‘sworn to secrecy’; he knew from the start that his information request had ‘been expedited’ and that the documents were devastating for Goff. He was working clandestinely with insiders who knew what the briefing paper said and were involved in its release to him under the OIA. Those insiders can only have been in the SIS or Key’s office. … In other words, it was not the SIS that tipped off Slater and arranged for him to run the attack. It was the prime minister’s staff. Given that it was highly political SIS business, there seems no doubt that John Key knew what was happening, approved it and had his staff liaise with Slater about the release.”
August 5
Journalists are suspicious. Sludge Report on Scoop : “What communication was there between the 9th floor and, a) Cameron Slater and other journalists, and b) the SIS and Tucker, around the release of the document?”
What happened is Warren Tucker didn’t come to me, he went to his legal adviser and his legal advisers told him this is the process they have to follow and when he was going through that process it was at that point he told me he’d release it because he has to tell me that under the no-surprises doctrine.” [my emphasis]
Watch the video above – Key says that he was told, not his Office. He seems very well informed. The reporters at this event, and the Sludge Report August 5th, are all suspicious that Slater has been given very special treatment. Hence the OIA requests from Felix Marwick below…
November 9
Letter from SIS director to Felix Marwick NewstalkZB – Tucker writes:
Following discussion with the Office of the Ombudsmen, in relation to your request of 4 August, I can confirm that there was no written “correspondence with the Government and the Office of the Prime Minister regarding the NZSIS decision to release information to Mr Cameron Slater”. I notified the Prime Minister (in accordance with my usual practice to keep the Minister informed on a “no surprises” basis) that I was going to release redacted documents in response to the request from Mr Slater. I advised the Prime Minister that I had received legal advice that there were no grounds for withholding the information given the public disclosures already made about the existence and some of the content of the briefing. I informed the Prime Minister that I had informed Mr Goff of my decision to release the information. [my emphasis]
October 31
Letter from the office of the Ombudsman to Felix Marwick NewstalkZB:
“Dr Tucker has advised Ms Wakem that he is prepared to release a statement regarding his discussion with the Prime Minister…” “There is no written correspondence with the Government and the Office of the Prime Minister…” “Ms Wakem is of the view that there is good reason to withhold Dr Tucker’s full recollection of his discussion with the Prime Minister…”
We are required to believe that all references to the Prime Minister in fact refer to the Office of the Prime Minister (despite the fact that the Office of the Prime minister is clearly distinguished in some cases). As Manning points out, the government’s own guidelines require Key to have been informed.
Now fast forward to …
2014
August 13
Publication of Dirty politics by Nicky Hager, Chapter 3 describes the way in which Slater worked with the PMs Office on the release of the SIS briefing documents in 2011 as above.
Hager confirms a lot of suspicions that were prevalent at the time, as above.
August 21
Key denies political interference. John Key: “The basic claim that somehow my office was either pressuring the system, speeding up the process, injecting itself into the process – all of that is flatly incorrect.” (This quote no longer appears in the original source.) From Stuff:
Key said from time to time he had had discussions with Tucker about the release of OIAs. “But prior to the release of this one I didn’t have any discussions at all. ” He had got back from holiday on July 31 and the discussions about the OIA took place before that. The release went out on August 2 but there was no discussion between him and Tucker about it. “He did deal with my office but the claims that have been made … that there was political interference that’s absolutely not true.” … Key said Tucker had briefed someone in his office. He would not name the person, but said it was not Jason Ede. … He did not have any details and had not asked those in his office about how Slater had known it would be “devastating for Goff” before it was released. [my emphasis]
August 21
There will be an investigation: “Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security Cheryl Gwyn will investigate the release of SIS documents to Cameron Slater.” (Unlikely to report until after the election.)
Yeah right.
My conclusions:
Key wants us to believe two contradictory things:
(1) He and his office are so indivisible that when he and others refer to him(self) they are really referring to his office.
(2) He and his and office are so separate that when his office was briefed on the documents released to Slater he was completely unaware of it.
Point 1 is rubbish. Too many people, including John Key himself, refer to “the Prime Minister” / “me” being informed, for them all to have mistakenly meant the Office of the Prime Minister (especially given that some of them carefully distinguish the Office on some occasions). We have seen an “orchestrated litany of lies” before in this country, we are seeing something similar now.
Point 2 is rubbish. When John Key said on August 8 2011 “It was at that point he [Tucker] told me he’d release it because he has to tell me that under the no-surprises doctrine” he knew exactly what was going on. He can pretend that Tucker told his office and not him, but he can’t deny that in either case he was fully in the loop on August 8th – because that is him right there in the video speaking the words, not his office.
In the end splitting hairs about Key vs his office is just a distraction. Key is responsible for the actions of himself, and the actions of his office, and is the Minister in charge of the SIS. The fingerprints of political interference are all over this event, from the unexplained de-classification of the document (who authorised this?), to its expedited release, to Slater knowing in advance (who swore Slater to secrecy?) what it contained, to the denial of a request from Fairfax for the same document (on what grounds?). The buck stops with Key. If he gets away with it, our democracy is stuffed.
Hello Mr R0BINS – how nice to have back here posting for us.
I agree entirely with your TLDR conclusion that “Key is responsible for the release”. The joining of the dots timeline you have produced must have taken some time to compile, thank you. How interesting that various bits and pieces are being excised from the intrawebz by the MSM. I too have found that to be the case, especially when tracking down details of John Key’s lies. I have also noticed that various blogs,keepingstock being one example, have recently started doing the same. Frustrating.
I do wonder, though, if you’re timeline isn’t missing a couple of important things. First, one of the major messages to come from Nicky Hager’s Dirty Politics is the sheer sophistication of John Key’s Black Ops Department tactics and the concomitant efficiency of the vital “plausible deniability” aspect. In one of the videos, John Key talks about how he has “streamlined” the “no surprises” process and how he himself has been somewhat taken aback at some of what has been released into the public domain by his spies. This, of course, is a short-hand announcement that when an agency says it has spoken to the Prime Minister what that really means is that the agency as not spoken to the Prime Minister but has advised the Prime Minister’s Office. No need to say who in the Prime Minister’s Officer and/or whether or not that person passed the information along to someone else in the Prime Minister’s Office. Cut-outs left, right and centre. The glib manner in which this plausible deniability line is being delivered indicates a fair amount of rehearsal has gone into it. In fact, I expect that if Kim Dotcom’s 15 September reveal does confirm that the Prime Minister knew of Dotcom and his situation well in advance of when John Key says he did, we will see this same line being delivered with the same dimissive alacrity.
Second, what seems to be missing from the timeline is what was going on for John Key at the time and the fact that the SIS “took legal advice” prior to the release of the briefing notes.
What was going on for John Key is that he was facing a barrage of criticism for what should’ve been – in his mind – a spectacular display his overwhelming wonderfulness. There he was, on the international stage, standing side-by-side with POTUS speaking out on a dreadful situation before the mass media. ‘Cept, John Key fucked it up. Also worthy of mention is that John Key had been caught out lying about how many passports were found on the Israeli Mosad agent “tourist”. John Key went to obfuscate his way out of that one but repeatedly said that there had been no illegality surrounding the issuing of New Zealand passports at that time. The questions were being asked because of the 2004 incident when Mosad agents Uriel Kelman and Eli Cara were caught trying to fraudulently obtain New Zealand passports. Does New Zealand now allow spies to use New Zealand passports? Anyhow, the point is, John Key’s showboating on the international stage had turned to custard and inconvenient questions about New Zealand passports and Israeli spies were being asked. This provides both John Key and the spy agencies motivation to distract the media and the public.
Now, when John Key says Warren Tucker spoke to the SIS lawyers, what he means is that Warren Tucker went off to Crown Law to cover his arse and make sure his release of the, albeit hugely redacted, Phil Goff briefing notes was legit. Questions I have about Tucker’s visit to Crown Law is whether or not Crown Law was being used as a cut-out and/or to reinforce actual instructions from the Prime Minister’s office to release the information. Remember, the sole reason given as to why the briefing notes were declassified is that the material was already in the public arena and the only reason the material was in the public arena was because John Key had put it there. That, my friend, is called a “set up”.
Further complicating the matter is the fact that Warren Tucker is himself something of a dodgy bugger. There are various incidents involving the SIS and GCSB when Tucker was pulling the levers which cannot accurately be pinned directly on him. But, remember all the fuss and palava about why the GCSB had to be given the right to wholesale spy on New Zealanders was because “the law was not clear”? Well, back on 30 January 2006, Warren Tucker said . . .
. . . The GCSB’s twin roles and functions are spelled out in the GCSB Act 2003. These are – first to collect and report secret foreign intelligence derived from the interception and analysis offoreign communications, on matters of importance to the New Zealand Government. Secondly, the GCSB provides the tools and advice necessary to ensure that the communications systems and computer networks used for official and governmental business and for critical infrastructure are properly protected from tampering and from unauthorised access. These twin roles are likened by some to that of “poacher” and “gamekeeper”, and it is no accident that they both reside within the one organisation. The GCSB Act – which enshrines in law the longstanding practices of the Bureau – makes it absolutely clear that the GCSB must not target the communications of New Zealanders . . .
^^^ emphasis in original
. . . yet, Tucker didn’t issue a single peep during John Key’s ramming through of the new legislation.
A big part of John Key’s justification for allowing the wholesale spying on New Zealanders was that the legislative changes also strengthened oversight. We now have Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security with a broadened mandate and greater authority. Trouble is, the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security is Cheryl Gwyn who, up until April 2014, was the Deputy Solicitor-General at Crown Law, the very same Government agency which cleared Warren Tucker’s release of Phil Goff’s briefing notes. What’s more, the Crown Law Counsel for constitutional, human rights and international law, Ben Keith, has only just recently been appointed as the Deputy Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security. That is the same Ben Keith who, in his previous role as Crown Law Counsel for constitutional, human rights and international law, has assisted National Ltd™ through its Attorney-General Chris Finlayson in thesystematic trashing of all sorts of human rights legislation. Among other things, he was the one from Crown Law who signed off on the GCSB legislation as being “consistent” with the Human Rights Act.
In short, the only people investigating John Key’s involvement in the release of Phil Goff’s briefing notes the very people who gave the okay for the release of the notes. We’re fucked. Basically we will never find an actual smoking gun in John Key’s hand in releation to this matter because of the players involved and the sophistication of John Key’s malfeasance.
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This blog should be posted all the way to the election hopefully getting some MSM debate, so thanks for the care Rob,
This loss of civic integrity has destroyed our founding fathers principals enshrined in law and principals of honest governance, and is a shameless example of how low our political horizon has become today something akin to a return to the wild west again.
We must vote these merchants of corruption out of governance in September.
+100
+100. Great effort.
You know what really annoys me is the people who say “who cares” ….
Because it is clear that those people don’t care, and they also have no idea.
In the same way that KDC’s issues reverberate to the very heart of our system, so too do these actions by the Prime Minister. They are in fact more important than actual policy… what is the point in pouring policy into a machine which is fucked? The machine needs urgent overhaul and repair.
+100
What if it was Tucker directly talking and to Slater? And demanding secrecy?
This is exactly what I posted on the last version. Goff may indeed be ‘naive’ enough to believe that it couldn’t possibly be Tucker/SIS instead of Key who was dealing with Slater (via a mole in Key’s office?).
I would like to know more about Tuckers background and proclivities.
If only it were that easy. The source of the corruption goes back to the traditions of the civil government which was established here by the house of Windsor. Civil systems and common law systems have some pretty fundamental philosophical differences, for example the will of the people vs the well-being of the people.
It’s the second to last paragraph that leaves me feeling sick; there are no safeguards. Our supposed watchdogs are 100% beholden to the ones who whistle and hold the dog biscuit tin.
Thank you for posting this. It does illuminate an awful lot (pun intended).
Gwen & Keith have serious conflicts of interest, which may form grounds for judicial review of any inquiry they head. They must tread carefully to come out clean. Throwing Key under a bus has to be an option.
…and on Nine to Noon today, even Matthew Hooten believes Key is lying.
That from Hooten should make all right-wing voters wake up and actually read the book – not holding my breath though!! I think the shock might even be too much for them!!
Great work Rob and BLiPs. Some people face problems by pretending that they don’t exist. Cancer symptoms? A noise in the car? Funny weather? There are many National supporters who will be pretending that all is well and maybe as loyalists all will be well. But…
I thought Rebecca Kitteridge said last week that she had authorised the release. She is the director of the SIS. What role does Warren Tucker play?
Warren Tucker was the director of the SIS at the time. Rebecca has only started in that role in the last 6-9 months…
If I put my tinfoil hat on, I wonder whether Kitteridge was offered the director job of the SIS as a quid pro quo for not finding anything too damning during her report into the GCSB.
Totally wild speculation on my part as I have nothing to back up the theory, but I do wonder….
So do I.. the fact she jumped in last week and “backed” John Key’s lying over the SIS/Goff debacle indicates there was likely more to that appointment than meets the eye. Why did she have to comment at all? It had nothing to do with her. She wasn’t a part of the SIS at that time. Or was she…?
I submitted the following letter to to the Editor of the DomPost but it was never published. I thought it made a reasonable point at that time…..
It surprises me that no one seems to have made the connection between Nicky Hager’s and Edward Snowdon’s revelations.
A common response to the Surveillance State is that “you have nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide”. However, as history shows, the real danger of a Surveillance State is that once established, it is inevitably turned against the political opponents of the ruling elite.
As the minister responsible for the SIS and GCSB, John Key promoted changes to the GCSB legislation in 2013 to remove restrictions on the GCSB’s surveillance of New Zealander’s communications.
It should concern all New Zealanders that John Key may now be implicated in dirty politics and the misuse of power.
+++++++100%
John Key’s usual answers:
“At the end of the day”, “it is just one of those things”, “that was a long time ago”, “I can’t remember” and well, ahem, “when you look at it”, “it is all just a left wing conspiracy”.
fascinating post rOb and BLiP
can anyone quote or paraphrase hooton for us? what exactly does he say key is lying about… why and is he outraged?
“lying” is a bit much: here’s what I said: http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/20146970/political-commentators-matthew-hooton-and-mike-williams
Thank you for amazing piece of writing. This is everything Whaleoil isn’t – it’s also the sort of thing our MSM should be doing. Oh how i wish everyone could read this .
Well done
xox
I wonder what Jim Mora would do if he read this analysis and discussed it on The Panel?
Jim Mora reading for the purpose of being a balanced and informed broadcaster?
Are you drinking early today? Forgotten your medication?
Key, if caught out, will lie. The SIS knows where its bread is buttered and his knighthood will come from. The Ombudsman was mad to get involved.
We are letting Key shape the argument and he will probably win.
What we have to tell the Voters is that
Heard on the wireless that Kim Dotcom told Tova O’Brien that he was unwise to talk about hacking at the IMP launch.
Given that it was exactly the same speech that he’d delivered up and down the country for the last month, I’m sure he meant he was unwise to assume that NZ media had a braincell. That NZ media could research a story properly instead of going sweaty and wide-eyed at old news.
There was nothing new in what KDC said for the reasons you have given (delivered up and down the country for the last month) and also those details have already been youtubed following the many townhall presentations, as well as put in the public domain during a long NewstalkZB interview that has been available online for many weeks now.
To think we can rely on NZ media actually keeping up with themselves or doing some homework beforehand, or even double checking before reporting – that would be really unrealistic and setting overly high expectations?!
If Nats supporters continue to keep their heads buried in the sand, Key will be the winner. Unfortunately, and sadly for this country, too many of them are prepared to let him get away with anything short of murder. You can’t expect to find morals where there are none.