Bait and switch

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1. Jim Nald 1

   5 October 2011 at 9:47 am

   YOU are making me cry !
2. vto 2

   5 October 2011 at 9:47 am

   I am sick to death of being asked to pay for other people’s entertainment and sports and other hobbies…

   Bloody velodromes, free concerts, stadiums all over the place, fan-zones, fat-cat yachts, it just goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on ………………
   • joe90 2.1

     5 October 2011 at 10:01 am

     Ditto vto, in my neck of the woods it’s council funding of the masters games that leaves me seething. The beneficiaries of the councils largess with my over the top rates charges are the suppliers of food, beverages and accommodation and we continue to elect the people with interests in the businesses that profit.

     Yep, I’m talking about you Annie.
   • Afewknowthetruth 2.2

     5 October 2011 at 10:32 am

     Ditto. Many of us are sick to death of city/district councils’ spend, spend, spend policies ….. huge amounts of inftrastructure that will be of no use whatsoevr 5 years from now, when the golobal economic system has imploded.

     However, anyone who has investigated local politics soon realises it’s all a rort system based on short term thinking. Unfortunately the dumbed-down masses remain clueless and continue to support the insanity in droves.

     There is an awful lot of evidence that most local bodies finances will implode over the next 2 years, as businesses fail and rates go unpaid. In the meantime councils will just keep doing it till they can’t.
   • Vicky32 2.3

     5 October 2011 at 5:50 pm

     Bloody velodromes, free concerts, stadiums all over the place, fan-zones, fat-cat yachts, it just goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on ………………

     Oh yes, the Auckland city council has just been pressured into paying $1 million for ‘fan zones’… why? As you say, ‘someone else’s hobby’. It stinks!
3. Afewknowthetruth 3

   5 October 2011 at 10:21 am

   And the corporations and money-lenders who operate the whole system and are orcherating the present crisis end up laughing all the way to the bank, blurting out between fits of laughter: “You braindead suckers, you still think it’s about sport!”
4. Craig Glen Eden 4

   5 October 2011 at 10:28 am

   First it was South Canterbury Finance then Radio Works now the All Blacks? when are all these job creators going to pay their own way Corporate bludging and welfare has to stop.
5. Afewknowthetruth 5

   5 October 2011 at 10:36 am

   Oops. That should have been:

   corporations and money-lenders who operate the whole system and are orchestrating the present crisis
6. Brett Dale 6

   5 October 2011 at 10:36 am

   I agree with giving money to the film industry because its proven to bring in millions. I dont know why the left would complain about that (you guys didnt make a fuss when Scribe was getting 500 Thousands to do an album)

   I think it would be sick that the government gives rugby more money. how about funding womans sport (and by womans sport i dont mean fuckin netball)

   Our woman basketballers, swimmers, track and field, footballers could really do with some funding.
   • Blighty 6.1

     5 October 2011 at 11:04 am

     we complain because the Hobbit was never going anywhere. It was always going to be filmed in NZ.

     Just like the AB’s will always attend the World Cup.
   • felix 6.2

     5 October 2011 at 12:30 pm

     Do you want to know why there was no fuss when Scribe got $500,000 to make an album, Brett?

     Or why there were no paparazzi outside your house when you had that orgy with the Dixie Chicks?

     Same explanation applies to both mysteries.
   • Draco T Bastard 6.3

     5 October 2011 at 12:51 pm

     Why are we subsidising foreign film producers for little or no gain? If we’d just used tax payer dollars to bankroll the entire production we would have had an income in the billions rather than millions of income and millions of loss.
7. Colonel Kentucky 7

   5 October 2011 at 10:55 am

   NZders love to give money away while screaming they are broke. What they mean, but won’t or can’t articulate, is that they want to choose who gets their money so they feel superior while they give. There appears to be a hierarchy: pointless extravagances like sports events near the top, along with earthquake victims and kids with special cases of cancer. Then in the middle it’s local heroes and overseas victims of circumstance. Right down the bottom, closer to the screaming bloody broke, are the workers, the poor, the sick and elderly and anything that might improve the problems most eagerly complained about. Give anything to them, close a shop for 3 hours and suddenly the company is going to go broke. Recession? What Recession? Cost cutting in the public sector, but tens of millions to buy off rugby officials votes? One of our major cities is practically levelled, thousands of livelihoods gone overnight and yet the next most common resource, next to silt and mud clogging the street, is money. Like the silt, it pools in certain areas and not in others. If public and private debt is now the same thing, and our creditors knew we had so much stuffed under the mattress we wouldn’t have received credit rating downgrades. Oh but I forget, giving money to gangsters means we get to have them return to take some more which energises our local retail and hospitality economy. No word about whether we could get the same net profit from an average advertising campaign or promotion. It pays not to take it too seriously. The Left try to take wealth redistribution seriously and look where it got them. What you’re seeing here, though, is the much praised Right Wing “market” in action – the Republican Dream – and it’s not so good at creating what it says it will.
   • Draco T Bastard 7.1

     5 October 2011 at 12:54 pm

     What you’re seeing here, though, is the much praised Right Wing “market” in action – the Republican Dream – and it’s not so good at creating what it says it will.

     It’s great at delivering all the communities wealth to the few though.
     • Ianupnorth 7.1.1

       5 October 2011 at 5:51 pm

       Building a brighter future*
        
        
       *For the top 10% of the community only; funding will be from the other 90%
   • Misanthropic Curmudgeon 7.2

     7 October 2011 at 3:32 pm

     Colonel Kentucky says NZers “want to choose who gets their money”. Whats wrong with that: its their money!

     Surely you are not saying that their money out be taken/received but they ought have no input into where it goes (and so that whoever does decide gets the credit/salary to do so?!?!)
8. Colonel Kentucky 8

   5 October 2011 at 11:07 am

   Just this morning, on my way to work, I was accosted by barefoot tubercular starving school children and while I pushed their brown snotty noses away, it occurred to me, why don’t we have a whip round to pay for some virgins to massage Dan Carter’s groin? I think it would really raise the spirit of the nation.
9. freedom 9

   5 October 2011 at 12:49 pm

   “The IRB is the huge winner from the Rugby World Cup – it made a surplus of $42 million in 1995, $151 million in 1999, $180 million across the Tasman in 2003 and $330 million four years ago.”

   With the sponsorship money at an all time high, TV rights a global sellout, the RWC fee paid in full and the merchandising still to be counted, we can safely deduce an income of approximately $500 million dollars for the IRB from this year’s cup.

   “The [RWC 2011] are aiming to make $269 million from 1.36 million ticket sales…
   Rugby World Cup 2007 in France generated $397 million from the sale of 2.24 million tickets, and Australia collected $225 million in 2003 from total attendances of 1.9 million.”

   Ticket sales may be the only source of income for the NZRU from the RWC2011, but in anyone’s book, $269 million dollars is a fair stack of cash.

   With over 200 million tax/ratepayers dollars already paid to the NZRU, I do not accept they need more public funds

   Either the IRB is ripping of its members or the NZRU is ripping off the Government
   • Draco T Bastard 9.1

     5 October 2011 at 12:57 pm

     Either the IRB is ripping of its members or the NZRU is ripping off the Government

     Both.
10. davidc 10

    5 October 2011 at 2:27 pm

    “It cannot carry on… frankly the prospects of us going to England in 2015 under the current model are very slim. We cannot continue to sign on for an event that costs us so much money.”

    Steve Tew’s moan had nothing to do with this World Cup, his comments were aimed toward the All Blacks getting a bigger appearance fee and the possibility that the All Black’s sponsers may get some “leverage” off the event by a relaxation of the rules banning any non RWC advertising. Its just a negotiation gambit that will drag on for a few years yet. England is a vast market and they LOVE the All Blacks.
11. Irascible 11

    5 October 2011 at 2:47 pm

    The BBC, last week, carried a story from the IRFU that siuggested that the boady was having regrets about giving the hosting rites (rights) to NZ instead of Japan as, in the opinion of the management, the economic returns from an Asian host far out weigh the returns to be gained from a couple of islands in the South Pacific.
    The report compared the incomes of the professional sporting bodies and argued that they needed to centre themselves on Asia because these were the income generators of the 21st century.
    There is obviously no love for the NZRFU where income for the IRFU is concerned.
    If the NACTional govt falls for this economic piracy by the IRFU there is another example of Key’s economic policy of gamble and smile as the chips fall to others on the table.
    • mik e 11.1

      5 October 2011 at 11:44 pm

      A brighter future for nzrfu
12. Ianupnorth 12

    5 October 2011 at 5:56 pm

    Have a look at the ‘Grassroots Trust’ – a pokies charity; look how much they take from the most deprived communities; look where they give their cash. This money doesn’t pay for kids sport, it pays for lard arses to sit in corporate boxes.
     
    Rugby has plenty of money, it just isn’t spent well.
    • Colonial Viper 12.1

      5 October 2011 at 6:15 pm

      Old fashioned misallocation of capital.
    • davidc 12.2

      5 October 2011 at 8:31 pm

      Ian, I started to write something rathert harsh in reply, instead I will ask this;

      care to verify your statement?

      I think you are talking toal shyte.
      • Ianupnorth 12.2.1

        6 October 2011 at 9:32 am

        http://www.grassrootstrust.co.nz/ – set up as a legitimate trust by Waikato RFU; they have machines in many other areas but the majority of grants go directly to things associated with the Waikato RFU (e.g. the Chiefs) check the grants list. Then check who the directors are and their association with the recipients.
        If you want so save time – http://iansescapevalve.blogspot.com/2010/10/pub-charities-and-in-particular-one.html
         
        Internal affairs are aware and can do nothing.
13. Misanthropic Curmudgeon 13

    7 October 2011 at 3:25 pm

    Never seemed to be a problems when Labour was biffing 30 million about for rich-boy yaught races.

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