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mickysavage - Date published:
8:10 am, June 8th, 2015 - 77 comments
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Tags: ben rachinger, cameron slater, dirty politics
As far as I can ascertain Cameron Slater has released one statement about the allegations made against him by Ben Rachinger aired on the Nation last weekend.
Slater is a self confessed social media guru. His statement does not appear to be on his own site. He posts multiple posts every day but obviously must have missed doing this.
The only media where I have seen his statement is on Twitter. This must be an oversight. His statement was posted as a jpg and is not searchable. Google will not let you know what he said.
So as a public service job to a fellow blogger I thought that I should post the text. That way we can appreciate the full details of Cameron’s response.
Here it is …
Saturday June 5th, 2015
I have been aware that Ben Rachinger has been on a personal campaign to take a number of conflicting stories to the world as the truth. I have continued to ignore this and let it pass without comment, in spite of the many untrue statements he has fabricated around cherry picked screenshot ‘evidence’. So whenever I was approached by the media to provide comments on Ben’s claims, I declined. I’m going to continue to do so. This is the only public statement I will make on this matter.
It is somewhat ironic that it is Mediaworks running this story and all without disclosing that [B]en was working for them earlier in the year as a consultant.
Ben is an extremely talented young man, but he operates without any sense of guidance or direction. When he made contact with me, and we built a relationship, it was mostly on the basis of me being a mentor to him. He had problems. Some of them very personal ones. He asked for advice. He wanted help. And I provided both.
After a while, it became clear to me that his behaviour was erratic. His decision making inconsistent. His previous promises and commitments to me proved worthless. And whereas we started on the basis of trust, it became obvious that he was now acting in a way to not only damage me, but also himself.
In spite of the fact that I still have empathy for him, there was little I could do but draw a line under it and move on.
Since we parted, I’ve tried to protect Ben from himself, and was successful for a while. When different media repeatedly came sniffing around for a story, I would give them advice that this wasn’t what it appeared, and all they would end up doing was to hurt Ben more. Until today, those media had the decency not to throw Ben under the bus in the forlorn hope of a few extra ratings points.
The only result of me telling my side of the story in full is to completely destroy whatever public credibility Ben has left. It will also hurt other people that he’s managed to ensnare in his fantasies. He has to mature, grow up, and just move past this. Hopefully this latest phase has gotten it all out of his system.
I understand that he has been monitored and interviewed by officials who have concerns about him. I can but hope that they succeed where I failed. Ben needs a strong role model and strict guidance for him to channel [h]is many talents.
Personally I feel extremely betrayed and hurt by is campaign. Ben has abused my confidence and my generosity. But I won’t let it colour my future behaviour. When people come to me for advice and assistance, I will continue to make myself available.
Cameron Slater”
Two questions I have though are (as asked on twitter) why donations would be paid out of a business account? And what did Slater mean when he referred to “funders”?
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maybe funders was a typo.
that is a very well written letter that shows compassion, ive never seen anything like that on whaleoil.
Indeed. Not in his usual style of writing at all.
I wonder who wrote it for him.
Edit: And I notice that he never states that he wasn’t trying to get Ben R to hack into my machines.
Slater is capable of writing like that and that level of compassion when he thinks it’s worth it. The whole paragraph beginning “After a while, it became clear to me that his behaviour…” read like someone writing about Slater though.
Re the hack… I have no doubt it’s what Slater intended.
He spoke of funders several times on different occasions. Also I don’t know what it would be a typo of – ‘finders’, the most likely slip, doesn’t make any sense in context.
Perhaps it was ‘fondlers’, as in ‘fondlers of ponytails’?
Meets the gold standard for passive – agressive, agressive-agressive behaviour. Note how he puts himself in the light of I’m just helping as a mentor , he’s a very sick fellow ( as diagnosed by Slater himself) , he needs a strong mentor like me ( according to me Slater). etc etc. Empathy I don’t think so.
Minimises his own role, denies any wrong doing and tries to shift the blame onto Ben infering that he is less than fully competent. Not exactly the impression Ben gives in interviews.
For my money it is right up there with the cop on telly talking about Louise Nicholls – ‘ words along the lines of – she is a very sick woman – she has accused a lot of cops of poor behaviour’
Dead on! Text book analysis of a sane person by a psycho. Recommended reading: Narcissistic injury.
Thanks T – much better summary
he wanted people to be completely sure that his motives were altruistic and the Nats were not involved in any way!
and in other news, a flock of kiwis was seen flying over the Beehive this morning.
3. Who wrote the statement?
Yep the style is completely different to Slater’s normal writing style.
apart from anything else it attempts to rely on compassion and empathy.
probably written by Lusk- who posts under Slaters name on his blog.( especially on hawkes bay issues)
Probably the same outfit that’s doing Collins make over PR at the moment.
I threw up a little bit when I read about her wanting to hug strangers today.
“The only result of me telling my side of the story in full is to completely destroy whatever public credibility Ben has left. ”
Yeah right, hardly believable.
If you tell your story and it exonerates you – that’s what you do. The claimant puts themselves at risk if they’re making stuff up, and as the defendant that’s not your problem to deal with.
“…cherry picked screenshot ‘evidence’.”
So the texts are genuine. Slater implies there are others. He implies these other texts will exonerate him.
😆
They probably won’t exonerate him, but Ben obviously hasn’t shared them for a reason. It looks like Cameron is alluding to some personal issues that Ben may have discussed with him, and Cameron is saying he’s going to take the high ground and not reveal them.
But if they are wholly personal issues, it would seem unlikely to make any great difference to the hired-for-hacking allegations against Slater. Even if Ben turns out to be some sort of scammer or fraudster / con-artist (which from the evidence on The Nation, from Cameron’s perspective would be the case anyway), it doesn’t really change the fact that it was Cameron that suggested the hacking of The Standard in the first place.
In Slater’s narrative they exonerate him, no doubt by rebutting the “untrue statements he has fabricated”.
The whole statement is a pack of lies and thinly veiled threats.
The Nation 7 June 2015
http://www.tv3.co.nz/THE-NATION-The-Nation-Sunday-June-7-2015/tabid/3692/articleID/114594/MCat/2910/Default.aspx
Slater vs Owen 48.22 – 49.01
He wasn’t too slow at threatening Lisa Owen either at 48.45 “You can do what you want Lisa, and you will suffer the consequences!”
All you have to do is imagine Robert de Niro saying it to Billy Crystal.
hang on – what happened to the Ben written with a lower case b in the second paragraph? see here –
http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2015/06/07/slaters-bizarre-response-to-the-allegations-of-hacking/
too nit-picky? Its what gave me the feeling it were written by the Slater scion hisself..
I thought it was my typo when I reread it and corrected it. Will revert to the original.
and then ‘is’ for ‘his’ in the 2nd last para then..
you can delete this MS 😉
I can’t but notice that the statement by Whale Oil is a standardised National Party response to ANYTHING. Just take out Ben Rachinger and enter in “Beneficiaries”, “Boat People” or any other pesky troublesome pet hate of the National Party perspective. It reads exactly the same. It’d be fucking hilarious if it wasn’t so serious.
The poor old Nats, they just want to mentor you troubled people back to good sense, because deep down they have your best interests at heart but you don’t WANT that do you, you don’t WANT TO BE CONTOLLED by them at all, do you, you want to HURT them with INGRATITUDE!
Not even.
great observation Sir
Slater oil usually has some difficulty keeping the blowhole closed, so what is different in this case? and as Micky alludes to, business account activity usually indicate something to do with business and services rendered
the text is laughable on various levels, and parts could almost be taken for a primitive form of self awareness, I have read the comments re taking it easy on Ben “Rat”hinger due to fragile mental state and fair enough to some extent, but Mr Slater has well squandered his chances for the same amnesty to be extended
Put on a fake Tony Soprano accent when you read it. Only more whiny.
I then tried, in a Christopher Walker accent – again adding more whine.
My partner then did it as Nicolas Cage – OMG, laugh, I almost wet myself.
Hours of fun 😀
If he was being so nice why did he not go on the Nation?
Because “he” hadn’t thought up the statement by then
Because you eventually need to use your own words if the interview is long enough.
Doesn’t whathisname sit behind the camera and signal what to say?
Heh. We saw how well that worked out.
“He had problems. Some of them very personal ones”.
Sounds like possible blackmail to me.
Slater’s statement is saccharin sweet laced with poison… Did Judith Collins write it?
exactly how I read it… exactly !
Strange. He used the word empathy that he does not know the meaning of.
Mr Slater showing empathy? Whaleoilbeefhooked!
touche
Great job at attacking and discrediting the person make such allegations, sadly coming from someone with such low moral fibre it really on adds to the points that have come to light.
Slater has become a victim of his own crosby-textor brainwashing. He can’t tell reality from crosby-textor.
And there is no such date as Saturday 5th June 2015 🙂
not in NZ, anyway ..
in what country would there be a Saturday 5th June 2015?
One with a slightly different calendar.
On Planet Key
Good spotting.
However, that does set the credibility tone for the whole piece though…
A few minor erors is good if you want to pass something off as written by an inferior writer.
Have any of you got access to one of those tools that check submitted writing against things published on the web to identify plagiarism?
I would be interested to know if he put it up as the JPG to avoid someone from identifying his text as plagiarized from someone else.
Ahhhh very clever idea
turnitin.com?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection
Projection was my first thought in relation to Slater’s comments too.
” we built a relationship, it was mostly on the basis of me being a mentor to him. He had problems. Some of them very personal ones. He asked for advice. He wanted help. And I provided both. After a while, it became clear to me that his behaviour was erratic. His decision making inconsistent. His previous promises and commitments to me proved worthless”
Great advert for being a friend of Slater and taking him as a mentor….I feel sorry fro Ben.
The hypocrisy drips from every word in the statement, when compared to Slaters own MO……unbelievable !
I’d say that Cameron Slater wrote this, though I’m no expert.
If you go to his site, you can search for specific words. I did this for specific words or phrases in the above Twitter text. Yes, he does often use the word ’empathy’, the phrases ‘throw under a bus’ and ‘cherry picked’ and he often uses ‘gotten’ in the American usage.
Dirtry Politics showed at least some of his site is not written by him. Maybe tis Carrick Graham’s style you’re spotting?
Was Carrick Graham writing on Whale Oil in 2010? ‘Cos you can add the number 2010 to your search and then ‘cherry picked 2010’ and ‘gotten 2010’ get lots of returns from that year.
Oh, the joys of search engines and too much free time to use them……….
There is software that does word/ sentence structure to see if a text is a match to another.
I think you can just plug it in a website.
I doubt very much if Slater’s “funders” exist.
This was an attempt to pursue a vendetta against a left-wing blog and others who have slighted Slater. Only Slater feels the need to exact revenge against those he perceives have/are attacking him.
Others couldn’t care less.
Finding out if a funder actually exist is where I would start.
Treetop, you wrote “Finding out if a funder actually exist.”
‘Funding a finder out’ is what Slater was doing.
Now we’re finding out about a funder by the foundered bounder who founded Whale Oil floundering about funding a finder?
Sounds like a short dialogue from “Yes, Minister.”
I tried to correct the word exist to exists but was too late.
“Funding a finder out’ is what Slater was doing.”
Show me the hacker funder/s. Until I see one/them, the hacker funder could be Slater for all I know, he could have his own gifted cash fund for his personal use.
Of Course a funder exists. Slater would not have enough, nor would put up, money out of his pocket for this. he’s vindictive but not that well healed.
oh he’s certainly sick
Oh gotcha -that’s quick
The funder is thinking “5 grand? I paid that cunt Slater 20 for this job!”
Nice language felix, says more about you than slater
Never picked you as prissy before
Actually its nice to see that word used in a fair context.
It should be reserved for Carrick Graham, Lusk, Odgers, Edes, and Slater.
Oh, and that other C, Baragwanath or whatever…..
bhatnagar? he was an example of how slater talks about his friends…
Yes Tracey, Bhatnagar. Another C**t.
I appreciate that no-one will read this, but I’ll still say it….
Just for the record, I call them C**ts because they surreptitiously but deliberately wanted -and planned- to load the political dice of NZ in such a way that democratic choice would be annexed away from future generations.
They conspired to rid the NZ public of informed choice.
I’ll say that again…..
They conspired to rid the NZ public of informed choice.
They planned the systematic placement of sympathetic c**ts, or indeed anyone right wing and willing to be loyal to their plans, into as many positions of local , regional and national power and influence as possible – not to get a good job done, no- but to prevent anyone else from doing a good job on terms other than theirs.
They conspired, with extraordinary success- to poison the political discourse of New Zealanders so that they would be universally
a) Ignorant of any pertinent facts contrary to their view, and
b) saturated with opinion adverse to any opposing view, and adverse to any person with an opposing view.
I’ll say that again…..
They conspired to rid the NZ public of informed choice.
And the saddest thing is that they were, are, and will be – to some degree successful – because of one simple fact- they recognise that their own voters are dumb enough, and number enough, to not see through it, and indeed be happy with it.
And this was not them trying to hijack an election- no-no-no.
This was them hijacking every election forever.
Not the suspension of free and informed democratic choice, but the elimination of it.
That’s why I’ll call them like they are – C**ts.
@Treetop, I’d just about guarantee the funds were flowing in for “paid pen duties” into another series of his articles written on his site at the time, he get’s the coin from dishonest folk, wrote unsubstantiated, false allegations against good people, all in order to receive funds to chase his own criminal activities.
I hope he gets jail time.
A forensic audit would be interesting. Travel overseas is not cheap.
Slaters defence is everything but, instead it exposes him on all accounts including funders being connected to the National party, incompetency to deflect attention via an invalid (Saturday 5th June) defence letter picture therefore no response at all and his indirect admission of his own sorry state projected on to Ben Rachinger.
Slater’s a nut case, not to be trusted, volatile and sponsored by the National party to run fear campaign raids on those who oppose the National party and Slater himself.
It’s in the police hands now where it belongs and will be extremely interesting to see how that plays out. Political interference? I wouldn’t think so, too close to the funders?
Jail time? Perhaps. Conspiring to illegally obtain information? It would appear so. Level of involvement? Master Mind – Leader. Will Ben do time as an associate? No. Evidence proves he did not attempt a break in yet he did by all accounts entertained the idea of a break in to later dob the nut case in. Well done! Even the National party should be praising Ben for his under cover, double crossing tactics. Will they? No. Will Ben receive an award? No, instead he will receive a stern warning to leave vigilante type stings for the proper authorities to deal with or else he will be arrested. What can Ben do to maintain his credibility? Donate the $9k + to a psychological disability charity or donate it to fund the police investigation efforts.
So Jail time for Slater? In all probability, yes! Because he’s not likely to reveal the National party alleged funders. Will he be able to cope with that likely outcome? Let’s hope he can. The odds aren’t in his favour due to his own personal dealings with depression etc. Home detention? Possibly, if he reveals who the funder or funders are?
Pop open the pop corn now? Yes, but be prepared to eat it in super slow motion.
To be fair to Cameron, I think he meant funder as in what comes after lie-tning.