Daily Review 04/07/2018

Written By: - Date published: 5:30 pm, July 4th, 2018 - 26 comments
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  1. Ad 1
    4 July 2018 at 5:37 pm

    6,000 sign up to Kiwibuild on the first day.

    We have an actual government.

    • Sanctuary 1.1
      4 July 2018 at 6:09 pm

      Amy Adams was left floundering, doing the nasty Tory routine of wailing someone somewhere might be taking advantage of it. I find Tory reactions at times like this revealing. They are grasping, cynical, and criminal in the way they see the world.

      It is already clear this policy is going to be wildly popular with Joe and Jane Sixpack.

    • Pat 1.2
      4 July 2018 at 6:20 pm

      and how many of those were taking home over 2k a week?

    • patricia bremner 1.3
      4 July 2018 at 7:02 pm

      Developers considering involvement can see it is happening. Well done Phil. The Nats have been so negative! At last we are getting the true story.

    • Baba Yaga 1.4
      5 July 2018 at 5:29 pm

      One that will not build a single additional home than would have been built anyway. A ghost ballot by a ghost government.

      • Ad 1.4.1
        5 July 2018 at 5:35 pm

        Now you need to show you have run the counterfactual for that: what would have occurred if a National-led government had been on power.

        Not even Treasury can do that, so your claim is hollow.

        • Baba Yaga 1.4.1.1
          5 July 2018 at 7:12 pm

          The counter factual is very simple. National already had house prices stabilising, and the number of consents rising. Just ask Mickey https://thestandard.org.nz/apparently-labour-was-to-blame-for-the-global-financial-crisis/.

          • Ad 1.4.1.1.1
            5 July 2018 at 8:05 pm

            You don’t know the concept of counter-factual.

            You have to run exactly the same stats and run them as if National were in power now, implementing their policies, then prove the difference between the National hypothetical and the Labour-led one.

            So go right ahead.

            • Baba Yaga 1.4.1.1.1.1
              5 July 2018 at 8:37 pm

              I did. National had house prices stabilised, and consents rising. By one simple move (requiring IRD numbers) National dealt with concerns over foreign buyers (no need for racist dog whistling). The counter factual is the work was done. Labour promised the earth and are delivering ash.

              • Ad …
                5 July 2018 at 9:10 pm

                National’s moves late into their 3rd term certainly did make a start at leveling prices. For the previous 8 years things had got so bad a conservative estimate in 2016 from Corelogic was that the average house price in Auckland was heading to $3 million.

                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11740760

                Labour’s policy moves have been far more powerful and far more effective. You can see that in the continued and far stronger trend in Auckland’s prices, average time to sell, etc.

                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12033936

                And yet, despite the protestations about things going so badly from National and from the business community, building consents are at their highest in 44 years:

                http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1806/S00329/highest-building-consent-levels-in-44-years.htm

                The difference is clear as the facts. National were a fucking lazy government that supported nothing except feckless chumps in the property speculator market, and raised one policy finger to cool the madness late into their third term.

                Whereas Labour have done more effective work in their first year on housing than National did in 9.

                • Baba Yaga …
                  6 July 2018 at 10:40 am

                  “Labour’s policy moves have been far more powerful and far more effective. ”

                  What moves? Name a single thing they have actually done that has had an impact on house prices.

                  The increase in building consents is not a policy, it is the result of the policies and confidence built up under the previous government. National increased building consents significantly from the levels under the previous labour government.

                  This Labour government have done nothing to solve the problem, nothing. In fact as confidence plummets, and Twyford looks to the private sector to bail him out, they are looking like a car with loose wheels, in housing as with most other things.

      • patricia bremner 1.4.2
        5 July 2018 at 6:42 pm

        Baba Yaga Oh go away you troll. No truth in that!!

  2. Herodotus 2
    4 July 2018 at 5:47 pm

    We haver been told that the govt will have in place $2b to cover the Kiwi Build
    Now if we build 12,000 p.a. and a house takes 3 – 6 months to build, then at any stage we have 3,000-6,000 houses in various states of completion at any time. So on average, the cost spent on each house is $333k – $667k. Something doesn’t add up, unless there are large upfront costs in acquiring land, and that would be at market prices 🙁
    https://www.labour.org.nz/kiwibuild

    • McFlock 2.1
      4 July 2018 at 9:28 pm

      I suspect there will also be a reasonably sized number of employees to plan and oversee the building of 10k homes a year.

  3. Rosemary McDonald 3
    4 July 2018 at 6:11 pm

    Frances Joychild QC.

    Heroine.

    • Janice 3.1
      4 July 2018 at 7:20 pm

      Must have been good family discussions in their household, her brother is John Minto.

      • Rosemary McDonald 3.1.1
        4 July 2018 at 7:45 pm

        Really? I did not know that… although a superficial look at the cases she has taken it’s obvious that she’s born to challenge government policies.
        Family Carers, CPAG, IHC, WINZ.

        Respect.

  4. Hongi Ika 4
    4 July 2018 at 6:59 pm

    Amy looks as if she has been sucking on a lemon ?

  7. Nick 7
    4 July 2018 at 10:53 pm

    Listened to that idiot Amy Adams trying to convince listeners that kiwi build recipients will be the minority richest people of NZ and the rest will miss out. Her blah defied sanity. Amy Adams, a lying clown.

  8. soddenleaf 8
    5 July 2018 at 12:19 pm

    When wealth is taxed the wealthy seek to lower the cost to government, Rockefeller, as we see today those representing wealthy people seek to raise the cost of govt and argue that govt does not work to lower taxes on wealth further. New top tax rate at 50% of income, crazy Amy will turn pivot…

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