Daily review 08/11/2023

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1. Bearded Git 1

   8 November 2023 at 6:12 pm

   I think this part of Gordon Campbell's blog today needs to be highlighted:

   "For all the fuss about the “river to the sea” slogan, the Jewish Council and David Seymour do not seem to have any trouble at all with the term, “Eretz Israel” (aka Greater Israel) by which Israel regularly lays claim (on Biblical justification) to absolute dominion over all the lands “from the river to the sea.” As recently reported:

   "According to the Jewish Virtual Library, the Likud Party [of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu]in the party’s original manifesto in 1977, stated that “between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty”. [Likud] also argued that the establishment of a Palestinian state .“jeopardises the security of the Jewish population” and “endangers the existence of the state of Israel”. Israel’s ambassador to the UK, Tzipi Hotovely, has been among the promoters of international recognition of the Jewish historic claim to lands from the river to the sea.

   Long ago, the Palestine Liberation Organisation adopted that same slogan, as a parallel call for equality and freedom for Palestinians, a call picked up subsequently by Hamas. That history raises a problematic question for the NZ Jewish Council and for David Seymour. If invoking freedom from the river to the sea is an expression of sovereignty that’s all fine and noble when espoused by Israel, how can the exact same notion be unacceptably dark and threatening when Palestinians use the same phrase to convey a similar dream of autonomy? The reality is that both groups regard the same homeland and the same holy places with similar reverence. But only the Palestinians get demonised for doing so."

   Keep up the good work Chloe Swarbrick. It is time for a ceasefire.

   Luxon has, of course, failed this first test. He is slavishly following the American line and does not support a ceasefire.
   • ianmac 1.1

     8 November 2023 at 7:26 pm

     Hear Hear.
   • gsays 1.2

     9 November 2023 at 12:16 pm

     TBF, Luxon is in lockstep with the outgoing PM.
   • mary_a 1.3

     9 November 2023 at 2:52 pm

     Spot on Bearded Git
2. Francesca 2

   8 November 2023 at 6:52 pm

   Absolutely BG .!
3. joe90 3

   8 November 2023 at 7:48 pm

   Cetacean freedom fighters strike again in the struggle against oceanic colonisers.

   .

   A pod of orcas has attacked and sunk another boat in southwestern Europe after relentlessly bombarding the vessel and its crew for almost an hour on Halloween. It is the fourth time that orcas from this region's population have sunk a vessel in the last two years.

   https://www.livescience.com/animals/orcas/orcas-sink-another-boat-in-europe-after-a-nearly-hour-long-attack
   • Dennis Frank 3.1

     9 November 2023 at 3:09 am

     Unfortunately the report doesn't specify the number of orcas in the pod – my theory is that Pythagoras was right re numbers making things happen in the real world.

     Another Gaia rules story too, eh? Significant that the similar instances mentioned suggest a field effect for causation…

     The extent of the phenomenon is impressive, the pattern in time & space. Obviously some kind of collective intelligence underlying the sync between the individuals & groups. Often what you don't get in such reports is deep context – how often has it happened before. Straight thinkers usually can't connect the dots so scientists would have to work with a flawed database created by observers who see each such event as unrelated to whatever other similar events may have happened.
     • joe90 3.1.1

       9 November 2023 at 9:22 am

       , the pattern in time & space.

       The fun of sinking shit ginned up by cetacean juveniles on sub-sonic social media.

       Ram raids for Orca.
4. Ad 4

   8 November 2023 at 8:01 pm

   Nearly a month without a proper government, and New Zealand continues on just fine without it. Likely to be 2 month from election before they're sworn in.

   TV news is down to reporting hamburger chains, RNZ finds minor Auckland stories, Stuff is recycling favourite travel stories.

   Honestly does anyone really miss politics at all?
   • joe90 4.1

     8 November 2023 at 8:14 pm

     Be nice to emulate Belgium's 589 days without a sworn government.
     • Belladonna 4.1.1

       9 November 2023 at 5:08 pm

       Suspect that the lobbyists and consultants in Wellington are missing them.

       IIRC, there was a significant downturn in nightlife in Wellington following the 1996 MMP election, when Winston was in extended negotiations (2 months) with both main parties.
   • observer 4.2

     8 November 2023 at 8:43 pm

     Honestly does anyone really miss politics at all?

     Newshub TV reporters? They have 3 with nothing to do (Lynch, Wade, Burr) so they're reduced to playing silly games in Wellington (their story tonight was a bunch of politicians being chased along streets and saying nothing) and going on about Helen White, now a minor opposition MP. Absurdly, that was the lead story, when there's far more important news around.

     Their editor is not reading the room at all.
     • bwaghorn 4.2.1

       8 November 2023 at 9:03 pm

       Tv3 is always petty and pathetic even when things are happening, them and obrain, can't read her drivel any more.
     • Visubversa 4.2.2

       8 November 2023 at 9:50 pm

       Whoever leaked stuff in Mt Albert should be locked in a room and made to listen to Mike Moore speeches for 6 hours every day for a month!
       • weka 4.2.2.1

         8 November 2023 at 10:55 pm

         is that like Vogon poetry?
         • Visubversa 4.2.2.1.1

           9 November 2023 at 9:40 am

           It is cruel and unusual punishment. Those of us who had to sit through it for hours in the early 1990's knitted whole wardrobes as we listened to him drone on. We played "Cliche Bingo" with his most over-used phrases.

           We sat as far away as possible from his "Beagle Boys" in the Mike Moore Supporters' Club so not to be overcome by the aroma of BO and cheap aftershave.

           He was so in love with the sound of his own voice that he even ignored that ultimate final signal to all politicians which was the sound of the Zip water heater boiling in the kitchen for the closing cup of tea.
   • Obtrectator 4.3

     8 November 2023 at 11:32 pm

     Always room for a bit more micro-analysis of NZ's Rugby World Cup failure, I'd have thought, on past form anyway. And the next one's only four years away: speculation about who's likely to be in the squad should be starting up any time now.
     • Dennis Frank 4.3.1

       9 November 2023 at 3:19 am

       Not enough mongrel. I didn't have a problem with Kolisi not getting up-graded to red – Cane's brain explosion was way more blatant infringement. He's never seemed a convincing captain but you could say that for the other two as well.

       Moral of the story: top influencers not doing the alt-leader thing sufficiently. Collective intel is vital in a winning team. That said, ABs would have won if a conversion or a penalty had gone over. Luck!

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