Daily review 14/07/2020

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  1. Robert Guyton 1
    14 July 2020 at 5:35 pm

    "So let me get this straight. National spend months — during a global pandemic — undermining, sabotaging and heckling NZ's world-leading response to Covid… but we can't be mean to them today? Yet we've had to tolerate their counter-productive scheming as if they've been acting in good faith?
    Let's be honest and call out the Emperor's new clothes.
    National's problem is they're looking for a leader who doesn't embody their culture. Just embrace it guys. Double down. Michael Woodhouse and Judith Collins all the way.
    (Meanwhile, you might want to beg Act not to stand candidates in your electorates. You do wanna get 5 percent.)"

    Raybon Khan

    • Pat 1.1
      14 July 2020 at 6:09 pm

      Ah Raybon Khan….hes supposed to be a comedian but ends up being accurately unfunny

    • Anne 1.2
      14 July 2020 at 6:26 pm

      Hurrah for Raybon Khan.

      Here's my pick: Judith Collins.

      And if Woodhouse comes in as her deputy then we all know nothing has changed. Its Dirty Politics all the way.

      TBH its more likely to be deputy Mark the Mercenary Mitchell. Wow! What a team – not.

      • The Al1en 1.2.1
        14 July 2020 at 6:53 pm

        Collins would be the panic pick, if you ask me – The nat caucus hates her almost as much as left wingers. She'll only get the nod if the members have been reading the tory rags and swallowing it down whole. Maybe she will get it to stop the leeching of votes to act.

        Kaye for some sort of continuity, not that it's been long enough to count on, or Adams as the supposed soft face of conservatism they think will win over the middle ground.

        • In Vino 1.2.1.1
          14 July 2020 at 8:42 pm

          Anne – you remember me predicting that Todd would disappear, and that Nikki might be brought forth (supported by compliant media) as the new version of Jacinda?

          From what I have seen to date, no chance. Nikki seems vacant compared to Jacinda.

          But has she been lying low (as I suspect Jacinda did until Andrew stood down)?

          I doubt that National are going to decide quickly on this, and Nikki will be temporary leader for a good day or two.

          I cannot see Nikki suddenly blossoming forth, but if she does it will have been well crafted.

          That is how we pedantic conspiracists see things..

    • I Feel Love 1.3
      14 July 2020 at 6:39 pm

      There is juicy irony here, National with it's dedicated Dirty Politics team, it's Intelligence Unit set up to dog for dirt on Labour, being undone itself, by itself, without Labour doing anything about it. Hoisted by their own petard so to speak, and now they want sympathy and pity? I got a few swear words to say to that! & Khan is brilliant, his opinion pieces are must reads.

    • anker 1.4
      14 July 2020 at 7:09 pm

      Agree with Raybon…….

      but more than being mean to National, I note that the two journalists I respect the most in NZ, Nicky Hager and Gordon Campbell both say its almost impossible that Muller didn't know about the Boag leak…….

    • I Feel Love 2.1
      14 July 2020 at 6:34 pm

      I wondered why MB was trending, sorry to hear about that, he had great presence as "straight science guy" on that show.

  3. observer 3
    14 July 2020 at 6:28 pm

    Latest Roy Morgan poll is out (link here).

    As expected, bad news for National … I'm gonna make a big call here, Muller has to go.

    Labour/Greens doing well, especially the latter. ACT gain from Nats.

    (as always, treat Morgan polls with caution, but in line with other "private" polling).

    • The Al1en 3.1
      14 July 2020 at 6:43 pm

      Great poll. Good to see the greens up to 9% and NZfist under 2%

      • Pat 3.1.1
        14 July 2020 at 6:46 pm

        and ACT benefiting from disillusioned Nat voters…..JC the obvious fillip

        • The Al1en 3.1.1.1
          14 July 2020 at 7:03 pm

          To plug the brain shame drain. lol

          • Pat 3.1.1.1.1
            14 July 2020 at 7:11 pm

            no shame in the base, only certainty of position.

            They know what they want and what we all need.

        • anker 3.1.1.2
          14 July 2020 at 8:03 pm

          We are only talking about 4% of voters going to Act. NZ first has lost many voters. Labour is picking up the majority

          • Pat 3.1.1.2.1
            14 July 2020 at 8:05 pm

            we are talking about 4% in current polling….national will be looking to the only poll that matters

      • Bearded Git 3.1.2
        14 July 2020 at 6:53 pm

        My thoughts exactly Allen

        • The Al1en 3.1.2.1
          14 July 2020 at 6:56 pm

          If these numbers are repeated up to polling day, then fingers crossed for the bloke up against the 'salvor' of the north.

      • gsays 3.1.3
        14 July 2020 at 7:02 pm

        Yep the Green number is encouraging.

        What's not to like?

        Solar panels (PV), batteries, grid tied inverter (made in Chch?).

        Jobs, training, local industry boost, grid and community resilience.

        And only rich folks anxiety, about tax on wealth beyond their first million, to feel concerned about.

    • Just Is 3.2
      14 July 2020 at 6:47 pm

      Looks pretty grim for NZF, 1.5%.

      NZF have got a lot of Billboards out in Northland

      Heading:

      Vote Jones for Jobs

      With a nice pic of Winston and Jones

      • weka 3.2.1
        14 July 2020 at 8:06 pm

        RM was taken in June. Going to be really interesting if NZF picks up any of the disaffected Nat vote from the past two weeks.

        • Just Is 3.2.1.1
          14 July 2020 at 8:46 pm

          Quite right, you'd expect NZF to pick up some the disenfranchised Nat supporters

          Great to see support for the Greens jump, was it after or before the tax announcement.

          I just read an article from Bolger about Mullers demise saying from his perspective, the Nats need to recognise that under current Covid 19 conditions and the cost of negating those problems, that Tax increases were essential.

          I don't know if any potential Nat leaders were listening but I must say, I agree with him.

          • weka 3.2.1.1.1
            14 July 2020 at 9:37 pm

            the welfare policy was announced on the 28 June so I doubt it's reflected in this poll.

    • Nic the NZer 3.3
      14 July 2020 at 6:57 pm

      I want to be able to laugh in clear consience at the ridiculous US electoral college system. Time for the party threshold to be reduced as recommended by the previous electoral commission. Up to one in twenty party votes being wasted is too many. (Yes, I did consider Mr Craig being an MP as a consequence).

    • swordfish 3.4
      14 July 2020 at 8:16 pm

      Conducted over a 3-4 week period throughout June … so a bit out of date now … they seem to have been sitting on it for a couple of weeks.

      RM is usually strongest for the Greens (overstating support) … so people probably shouldn't read too much into the 9% figure.

      Does seem to confirm my theory that (due to an outlier in May) the June Colmar Brunton significantly overstated the swing away from Labour a month ago.

  4. Sean Carroll 4
    14 July 2020 at 7:09 pm

    I am happy to see National in turmoil. More, I wish we can develop a strong economy that grows jobs with equitable outcomes.

    • In Vino 4.1
      14 July 2020 at 8:47 pm

      Without any meretricious National Party input.

    • Just Is 4.2
      14 July 2020 at 8:51 pm

      It's coming, all good things take time, low wage economies are an economic failure for the majority, the current Govt is well aware of that.

  5. anker 5
    14 July 2020 at 7:17 pm

    Agree with Raybon…….

    but more than being mean to National, I note that the two journalists I respect the most in NZ, Nicky Hager and Gordon Campbell both say its almost impossible that Muller didn't know about the Boag leak…….

  7. Cinny 7
    14 July 2020 at 7:39 pm

    Newshub are doing a live stream special in anticipation of an outcome.

    Apparently, mark mitchell and louise upston have formed a 'ticket' and simon isn't interested in returning as leader.

    Here's the link for the stream…
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/shows.html

    • greywarshark 7.1
      15 July 2020 at 2:52 pm

      They've got a ticket – to ride!

      I think I'm going to be sad – I think it's today, yeah
      The girl that's driving me mad is going away
      She's got a ticket to ride — (but I don't care!)

      (Words changed a bit. And the girl driving me mad, and everyone else just teetering on sanity, will go away; we'll hold the ticket to ride even till Covid-19 has passed. )

      So we have JC for grittiness and the force majeure and Brownlee for his stalwart qualities, almost as good as a Berlin wall separating the entitled from the great unwashed, so to speak. National feels the need for a heavyweight in their line-up following on from Jenny Shipley.

  8. millsy 8
    14 July 2020 at 7:40 pm

    Cometh the hour, cometh the women. Judith Collins.

    Then it will be Cersei Lannister taking on Danerys Targaryen.

  9. Dennis Frank 9
    14 July 2020 at 7:40 pm

    Update from the Newshub live stream: SB not standing, Mitchell & Upston standing as a combo. https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/shows.html

    Oh, I see Cinny beat me by a minute with that. 👍

    • Cinny 9.1
      14 July 2020 at 8:10 pm

      Dennis, on Stuff they are floating the idea of chris bishop.

      Crikey could they be any more divided.

      Sounds like they will be unable to make a decision tonight.

  10. mauī 10
    14 July 2020 at 7:59 pm

    There is still a possibility that Todd gets voted back in as leader.

  12. ScottGN 12
    14 July 2020 at 8:25 pm

    The Newshub gang couldn’t really be pushing any harder for Collins.

    • Rapunzel 12.1
      14 July 2020 at 8:47 pm

      For the simple reason they thrive on drama and division. If you hear their radio promo's they're a combination of every combination of fears that will touch the nerves of most of the population but especially the gullible. It's the sole point of difference they work on to try to maintain an audience

      • greywarshark 12.1.1
        14 July 2020 at 9:18 pm

        The Gullibles – I reckon there are some like this at heart in the Gnats – just good at putting on a good show. After they've done their bit Sir Humphrey shows how to deal with knotty problems when you're in gummint.

  13. ScottGN 13
    14 July 2020 at 8:32 pm

    Peter Dunne keeps trying to peddle this line that National can somehow hold on to all their current MPs and ACT can gain 4, 5 or even 6 more. He doesn’t seem to understand that it’s a zero sum game, every new ACT MP is one less for National. He’s really bloody annoying.

  14. Robert Guyton 14
    14 July 2020 at 8:39 pm

    "Sometimes things stuff up or individual MPs go rogue, but high-profile investigative journalist Nicky Hager says there was a "distinct smell from the beginning" of a covert, organised campaign strategy by National as last week's Covid-19 patient information scandal unfolded."

    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/covid-patient-info-scandal-reeks-organised-campaign-national-author-nicky-hager-argues?

  15. Robert Guyton 15
    14 July 2020 at 8:43 pm

    "“I’m confident we’ll get a new leader tonight, if not then by lunch time tomorrow and we just have to get on with it, and we’ll be running a very competitive campaign, there’s no doubt about that.”"

    Lawrence Yule

  16. Dennis Frank 16
    14 July 2020 at 8:59 pm

    JC is leader! Tova got message from inside, unconfirmed as yet…

    • Just Is 16.1
      14 July 2020 at 9:03 pm

      Collins as leader means business as usual, onward with "dirty politics at any expense"

    • Incognito 16.2
      14 July 2020 at 9:18 pm

      A leak?

      • Dennis Frank 16.2.1
        14 July 2020 at 9:24 pm

        Seemed like it was. Got confirmed about 10 mins ago. Voting on the deputy is taking longer than I expected – maybe close competition? Newshub panel got word that Brownlee is likely to get it, but a contender for the future as well would make more sense…

  17. Andre 17
    14 July 2020 at 9:06 pm

    So we're gonna get St. Jude! Allegedly. What better project for the patron saint of lost causes and hopeless cases?

    Any chance of unbanning Puckish? There would be some lolz for sure.

  18. Stuart Munro 18
    14 July 2020 at 9:07 pm

    Judithulhu: why settle for a lesser evil?

  19. Robert Guyton 19
    14 July 2020 at 9:08 pm

    CrusherSmusherMusher!

    Jacinda will simply divert Collins' attacks to her various deputies. Game over.

  20. RedBaronCV 20
    14 July 2020 at 9:18 pm

    Well there goes the small false dawn of the Nats trying to be a moral and ethical party. One thing for certain Jude will never resign over anything. It will probably need the mythical stake through the heart to get her out of the job. Funny I've always seen her alternate job after some of those photo's standing on cars as the Dom of the party.

  21. Robert Guyton 21
    14 July 2020 at 9:19 pm

    In the image, is Key inhaling the scent of Collins' hair? And is she encouraging him?

  22. ScottGN 22
    14 July 2020 at 9:30 pm

    And just like that Barry Soper pops up…

  23. In Vino 23
    14 July 2020 at 9:31 pm

    Oh dear

    I did not think National were that stupid.

    It will take a mighty conspiracy with cooperation of media to give Judith any chance at all.

  24. ScottGN 24
    14 July 2020 at 9:53 pm

    Jesus the standup is something else. They’ve all lost it.

    • observer 24.1
      14 July 2020 at 10:23 pm

      I recognised the symptoms, I've been there. In politics or sport or even school.

      It's when you know you've lost and you might as well have some fun. It's "what the hell" time. The manic laughter gives it away.

  25. Anne 25
    14 July 2020 at 10:39 pm

    Judith Collins is not going to let Jacinda get away with any more of her nonsense.

    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/judith-collins-new-national-party-leader-1-news-understands

    When asked the difference between her and Jacinda Ardern, Ms Collins listed, “experience, toughness, the ability to make decisions”.

    As bitchy as ever.

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