Daily review 17/08/2020

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  1. Patricia Bremner 1
    17 August 2020 at 5:55 pm

    We don't know how lucky we are

    Melbourne 25 deaths overnight.

    282 new cases.

    Us, 9 new cases no deaths. One cluster.

  2. Stuart Munro 2
    17 August 2020 at 6:16 pm

    For these who have noticed the increase in Trump style disinformation stories even in NZ media, here is a New York Times feature on its history and how to combat it.

  3. RedBaronCV 3
    17 August 2020 at 6:32 pm

    Do we have a back to the future date on this post? Extra time for Judith? 16th

  4. ScottGN 4
    17 August 2020 at 6:42 pm

    Ms Collins said with the election delay, the National Party now "have the ability to get policy out".

    Haha. There’s never been any impediment to National getting policy out apart from not having any in the first place.

    • Robert Guyton 4.1
      17 August 2020 at 7:04 pm

      Extra time…for National to explain the homeless man, bring Todd back out into the light, publish an apology from Merv, train Judith's eyebrows and un-swivel and de-loon Gerry's eyes.
      Could be the making of them!

  5. ScottGN 5
    17 August 2020 at 7:11 pm

    Eight times Tova asked Collins if she’d respect the election result. And then of course the inevitable comparison with Trump.
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/08/watch-national-leader-judith-collins-hedges-her-bets-on-whether-she-will-accept-election-result.html

    • I Feel Love 5.1
      17 August 2020 at 7:25 pm

      my optics

      Adern = calm, certainty

      Collins = chaos, confusion

    • Muttonbird 5.2
      17 August 2020 at 7:44 pm

      National leader Judith Collins hedges her bets on whether she will accept election result

      That headline. OMG.

      • In Vino 5.2.1
        17 August 2020 at 7:56 pm

        I think I heard that – she answered the first question saying Yes because she would be Prime Minister, then dodged the second, more focused question, saying it was it was 'hypothetical'.

        It struck me as silly, because her first answer had already been highly hypothetical.

        I did not see if she had raised her eyebrow at any point. But she sounded shallow and flat. I wonder if she even understands her own sense of humour.

      • greywarshark 5.2.2
        17 August 2020 at 8:42 pm

        Election result – that would be the date I presume.

    • Hanswurst 5.3
      17 August 2020 at 8:59 pm

      To be fair, it's a fairly daft question. Her answer, "We won't be staging a coup," was as close to a proper answer to the actual, obvious intention of the question as one could expect. Reporters really should be more specific with what they mean in asking such questions. National has never accepted the result of the 2017 election, in the sense that they have never resiled from the view that a party with clearly the highest proportion of the vote should form the government, which is legitimately in line with a large section of their voting base and the party's own views that good government involves being able to act as freely as possible in support of the country's most financially powerful. Good journalism would attempt to explore and explain those philosophical and ideological circumstances, rather than take advantage of low-hanging fruit with catch-all questions that put a coup and support for FPP on essentially the same footing.

      Of course, I have limited sympathy for Collins, whose 'hits' on Phil Twyford had similarly little to do with outcomes, and were equally opportunistic grabs at low-hanging fruit that, given precisely the same media attitudes as described above, would have defied adequate answers from even the most supremely gifted of ministers. It's not as though anything has changed, either, as evidenced by her double-act with Brownlee on conspiracy theories last week. I'm quite comfortable with the thought of her convulsively gagging at the taste of her own medicine right now.

  6. Sacha 6
    17 August 2020 at 7:30 pm

    What does the 2017 NZ Election Survey tell us about how voters actually get political information? https://theconversation.com/jacinda-ardern-delays-new-zealands-election-to-allow-conventional-campaigning-but-where-are-voters-really-getting-information-144560

    Data from our 3445 respondents revealed a number of key points:

    • around 2% of people received a text from a party
    • 10% were contacted on social media
    • 12% were contacted by email
    • 22% were contacted by phone
    • 66% were contacted via a letter or pamphlet
    • but only 14% were contacted in person, at their house or in the street (figures do not add to 100% because respondents were allowed more than one answer).

    Overall, 86% of respondents said they received their political information, advertising or news from television, radio, print media or online.

    …

    We also asked how people participated in the campaign process. The highest scoring option was watching an election debate on television (62%). But the internet came a close second, with 61% saying they used online sources at least once to access election information.

    …

    By contrast, only 5% said they attended a political meeting during the election campaign.

    • Pat 6.1
      17 August 2020 at 7:36 pm

      Interesting information but the argument put forward re electioneering was bogus from the start and nobody seriously expects it to be believed.

      • Sacha 6.1.1
        17 August 2020 at 7:50 pm

        I hope the vote of those parties who whined for an extension goes down.

      • PaddyOT 6.1.2
        17 August 2020 at 10:13 pm

        What it means is that claims of "unfair " from Opposition parties was bogus. That survey data from the 2017 election showed 'old styles' campaign- door knocking and little public meetings have the least influence on the public's engagement and information gathering for their votes.

        As the article summed up it is time to move into 21st Century methods.

        And the availability of information should then be ALL the time as most now are hooked in to social media much of the time

        • Pat 6.1.2.1
          17 August 2020 at 10:29 pm

          "What it means is that claims of "unfair " from Opposition parties was bogus."

          Am pretty sure thats what I said

    • I Feel Love 6.2
      17 August 2020 at 7:38 pm

      I'm in South Dunedin, in the last 12 years I've seen Cunliffe (great!) & then Shearer (bad!) at the local hall (or was it the other way round?), seen Curran in line at the supermarket (she gave me kid those collector cards they used to sell), & drove a couple mates to the Mana/IP extravaganza at the stadium. About 12 years ago the National candidate knocked on my door & she was really nice. I get pretty much all my information from the 'net & radio.

  7. SPC 7
    17 August 2020 at 8:28 pm

    David Seymour

    1. We have to live with coronavirus, because lockdowns are too expensive

    2. There needs to be a month at Level 1 before an election

    Donald Trump

    1. We could delay the election, because action to slow down community srpead is too expensive

    2. I'll defund US mail, so there is less likelihood that people can get their mail votes in on time, so Congress will agree to delay the election until its safe to vote.

  8. I Feel Love 8
    17 August 2020 at 8:57 pm

    Soooooo, how'd the 'Exclusive scientific poll' that DPF did come out, no buzz on Twitter so figure a bit of a damp squib?

  9. SPC 9
    17 August 2020 at 10:51 pm

    The decision to allow Year 12 and 13 students back to school in Auckland is not without risk. It's the sort of decision that occurs when the Min of Education is Min of Health – reminds me of a PM who was also Min of Finance.

    There is a day or two before symptoms when people can spread, those managing the regime in schools have to be watchful about safe practice.