Daily review 17/07/2020

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  1. Robert Guyton 1
    17 July 2020 at 5:36 pm

    Who's the National Party spokesperson for the cannabis referendum?

    • Robert Guyton 1.1
      17 July 2020 at 5:45 pm

      Probably one of the young, progressive, unencumbered Nats, right?

    • Andre 1.2
      17 July 2020 at 5:45 pm

      Their justice dude, surely.

      • Robert Guyton 1.2.1
        17 July 2020 at 5:48 pm

        Maybe… or not!

        • Robert Guyton 1.2.1.1
          17 July 2020 at 5:49 pm

          Not Ol' Nick, surely!!

          • Cinny 1.2.1.1.1
            17 July 2020 at 8:33 pm

            Unfortunately yes… dr custard got the gig.

            Lolz I honestly thought you were joking Robert…but you were for real. Hows that for what the fuckery? nick smith…

            I almost guarantee that he wanted it as a big FU to Rose Renton, because he's bitter like that.

            Edit… come to think of it, he could also be doing a big FU to ex Nelson Mayor,<a href=http://www.nelson.govt.nz/council/news/recent-media-releases-and-news/getting-real-on-nelson-s-rates-rises/"Aldo". . Who called nick out for publishing misinformation.

            Aldo is looking at creating a <a href=https://www.waimeaweekly.co.nz/brightwater-cannabis-facility-creates-jobs/"cannabis facility"
            <a href="

    • Incognito 1.3
      17 July 2020 at 5:49 pm

      Any tobacco lobbyists left in the party or have they all gone up in … thin air?

  2. Incognito 2
    17 July 2020 at 5:36 pm

    When is a Tax not a Tax?

    When there is an alternative.

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/07/national-s-transport-plan-road-tolls-proposed-congestion-charging-on-the-cards.html

    That’s what the rich & wealthy do: talk to their accountants and structure their affairs to minimise their Tax liability and euphemistically call it “an alternative”.

    It would make a good Tui ad:

    There are no Taxes, only Alternatives!

  3. Anker 3
    17 July 2020 at 5:56 pm

    Listened to Bridges and Parker being interviewed by garner. Parker doing well. Smiling. Not defensive. Saying to Bridges not true when Bridges made claim. Bridges was calling Parker Davo . Ffs. Parker just said Davo, no that doesn’t work. Good stuff

  4. Reality 4
    17 July 2020 at 6:08 pm

    Wonder why the Nats and business lobbies are not demanding we open the borders with Australia and start taking in overseas students? After all, they are (rather were) doing so well! They have gone all quiet on that.

    Thank you Jacinda for not giving in to their pressure and demands.

    • Treetop 4.1
      17 July 2020 at 10:41 pm

      The silence is deafening from the opposition when it comes to an Australian bubble.

      The Covid-19 infections in Australia are alarming. Brisbane will be next just like Melbourne and Sydney unless a level 4 lockdown.

  5. Johnr 5
    17 July 2020 at 6:20 pm

    So, national announce a 30billion infrastructure spend. I thought, yahoo they're planning to spend on hospitals, education, mental health, et al.

    Silly, silly johnr it's all on ROADS. Here I sit, head in hands.

    • observer 5.1
      17 July 2020 at 6:34 pm

      It's not hard to tell when a party expects to lose an election.

      Last time National won from opposition (2008) they knew they were already on track to be in government, so they followed the "small target" approach. If you think you will be asked to do what you promise, you keep those promises under control.

      If you know you won't have to deliver any of the things you talk about, you promise the earth. Why only $31billion? Might as well make it 300 billion. With no tax to pay for it, yippee!

      • Westykev 5.1.1
        18 July 2020 at 11:12 am

        Absolutely correct

        100,000 Kiwibuild homes

        1,000,000 Trees

        Child poverty reductions

        Auckland light rail

        easy to promise in opposition but harder to deliver in government

    • Grafton Gully 5.2
      17 July 2020 at 6:51 pm

      In a speech in Auckland on Friday, Collins said that as well as building a four-lane expressway linking Whangārei, Auckland, Hamilton and Tauranga – transforming them into an “economic powerhouse".

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/122153158/national-announces-biggest-infrastructure-package-in-history

      The road/rail integration of these centres would be vulnerable to sudden geological events.

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/118431927/auckland-volcanoes-6km-blast-ash-hurricane-and-as-little-as-a-days-eruption-warning

      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/bay-of-plenty-times/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503343&objectid=10918784

      "How big is the tsunami risk facing New Zealand? New Zealand faces significant tsunami risk but has almost no direct experience so this risk is not widely appreciated. The geological record suggests New Zealand has experienced multiple large devastating tsunami in the past, and since 1840 there have been about 10 recorded tsunami higher than 4 metres. However there has been only one recorded fatality from a tsunami since European settlement. As a result the size and nature of New Zealand’s tsunami risk is not widely understood and the responses required are not widely appreciated. GNS Science modelling undertaken for this study highlighted the large exposure that New Zealand’s major population centres have to tsunami of varying sizes from a range of sources."

      https://www.eqc.govt.nz/sites/public_files/Report%20on%20Tsunami%20Risk%20facing%20New%20Zealand%20Aug%202015.pdf

      [Turned PDF into hyperlink – Incognito]

      Better then to put money and effort into regional independence and resilience with robust state of the art electronic communications we are now getting a taste for thanks to Covid 19.

      I see the National Party policy as backward looking and risky and I would not vote for it.

      • weka 5.2.1
        17 July 2020 at 7:18 pm

        Better then to put money and effort into regional independence and resilience with robust state of the art electronic communications we are now getting a taste for thanks to Covid 19.

        Yep. There's a town on the Westcoast that is preparing for 3 months of isolation when the big one hits. This is approaching sensible.

        Covid and how we have responded gives us lots of opportunity for future proofing that most couldn't conceive of before. Nat are dinosaurs but there are plenty across the political spectrum who believe our future is BAU, more or less greener to an extent. This blocks doing what is necessary because when the issues are raised on TS for instance, the response too often is fear of nasty, brutish and short. People seem stuck in a very narrow view of wellbeing. I think this is changing a bit, but whether it is fast enough remains to be seen.

      • RosieLee 5.2.2
        17 July 2020 at 7:21 pm

        Correct me if I'm wrong. didn't they also start transmission gully?

    • Byd0nz 5.3
      17 July 2020 at 7:08 pm

      Dont worry its to be spent over a ten year period, and given they are unlikely to be in power for another ten years or more that means around about 2032, so all this 30 billion is irrelevant.

  6. Muttonbird 6
    17 July 2020 at 6:44 pm

    'We are in the fight of our lives': Victoria's virus question experts can't answer.

    See, this is why you can't do pandemic response half way. You either respect it or you don't. There is no 'management' of this disease where you can tweak settings in the health vs economy dichotomy.

    This Coronavirus will run away from governments if they blink.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12348968

    • I Feel Love 6.1
      17 July 2020 at 7:04 pm

      Yes, the US a case in point, chasing their tails over there, hospitals at maximum, health workers utterly exhausted, with second lockdowns businesses going to the wall (utterly heartbreaking hearing those guys talk), & Trump poses on the Resolute Desk with cans of beans.

    • McFlock 6.2
      17 July 2020 at 7:25 pm

      Go hard or go home.

      Any government (national or state or region or city) that hasn't learnt this most likely doesn't care about its people dying.

      138,000 deaths in the USA, 1% of the population infected (confirmed – most likely an undercount).

      Our rate is 3 hundreds of 1%. A lot of that is luck, and a lot of it is resisting the "plan B"-type dickheads and nats constantly undermining the isolation and elimination efforts.

      • Muttonbird 6.2.1
        17 July 2020 at 7:40 pm

        I notice Judith and the Nats have completely abandoned their previous position of demanding bubbles, organising funeral exemptions and lauding Australia.

        This is a complete and very very public acknowledgement that JA and her government got it right and they, the opposition, got it so badly wrong.

      • I Feel Love 6.2.2
        17 July 2020 at 8:19 pm

        100% luck, luck we have the current lot in charge as opposed to the other lot.

  7. Treetop 7
    17 July 2020 at 6:51 pm

    Are there going to be any more resignations from the National Party next week?

    Is there going to be another cabinet reshuffle?

    I am ruling out a leadership coup in the National Party.

  8. observer 8
    17 July 2020 at 7:31 pm

    Here's a headline to make you sit up and notice:

    "Greens plan $30 billion defence spend-up!".

    Wow, what is going on? The Greens are mad militarists now? OK, don't bother Googling, they haven't really done this. All I've done is take the current annual defence budget (around $4 billion) and cut it in half, which would actually be a pretty drastic cut. Then I've pushed that $2 billion out to 2035, with no allowance for inflation or any other cost increases.

    And there's your $30 billion.

    If you want a bigger number, just add more years. And there's your headline, all over the news. Bigly big!

  9. Muttonbird 9
    17 July 2020 at 8:01 pm

    I see Collins' promise of a second harbour crossing as ill thought out as JA's promise of light rail to the airport. Leaders do weird stuff before elections.

    Get decent people (off shore if need be) to agree on a broad 100 year plan, then spend the money, wisely.

    • Treetop 9.1
      17 July 2020 at 10:26 pm

      Collins seems so focused on the congestion of traffic in Auckland that fixing the problem is finally a high priority. Auckland is her stomping ground and Collins appears to be after the Auckland vote.

      No mention of improving passenger rail between Auckland and Wellington.

      Economically it makes sense for roading to be four lanes from Auckland to Hamilton and Tauranga. Air travel between Auckland, Hamilton and Tauranga may become limited and too expensive or people may not fly short distances anymore. Were the Auckland Port to be shifted further up north four lanes would be needed.

      As for the Auckland Harbour Bridge a second bridge is required three times the width. Were anything major to occur to the bridge this would impact heavily.

      I await the housing policy from National. National finally woke up when it came to flogging off state houses thinking that they were not desperately needed.

      • greywarshark 9.1.1
        18 July 2020 at 12:22 pm

        A 100 year plan? Are you young and unknowing, or old and hopeful despite obvious signs we cannot plan beyond about 10 years (20th century, now say 5 years).

        If cautionary plans are made so as to be prepared for future developments or for an emergency, probably they will not be complied with to legal levels by about 10 years on. It is too hard for humans to restrain themselves if there is money to be made, from doing what is expedient.

        100 year plans; by that time anyone involved in those plans will be dead and their sons and daughters will be into utilising anything of value for immediate consumption within thirty years or less.

  10. Incognito 10
    17 July 2020 at 8:32 pm

    The pay of bloggers has not kept up with inflation if WO was allegedly paid $300 per blog post.

    https://www.newsroom.co.nz/the-return-of-dirty-politics

  11. Draco T Bastard 11
    17 July 2020 at 8:57 pm

    Why can't people learn the law?

    No politics at schools.

    • In Vino 11.1
      17 July 2020 at 10:14 pm

      It's not Politics, DTB – It's an Important Social Issue about which we have every right to tell you what to think for the sake of our young ones! Politics is things like Labour or National… (sarc)

      • greywarshark 11.1.1
        18 July 2020 at 12:25 pm

        It's legal for churches to preach on abstinence from things they decide people shouldn't do, and to restrain thought, so they are only doing what is normal for them.

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