Banning cell phones at schools falls in the same category of virtue-signalling of being tough on law & order as banning gang patches with a disregard for actual outcomes.
Indeed, young people are active problem solvers, which is a natural skill that should be encouraged and cultivated. Similarly, banning the use of AI at schools and universities would be a stupid mistake. On that note, teaching students how to use social media safely and responsibly is another skill that older generations should take to heart too.
if you want to make an argument about queer culture and child abuse, please make the actual argument, but carefully, not casually, and with regard for the part of the site policy that talks about not using language or tone that excludes people.
My suggestion is that you talk about queer theory's specifics, rather than using generalisations about queerness in general. Peters is currently stirring up hate against queer people and that's reaching dangerous levels (people getting death threats). Hence the need for care here.
Obviously most queer people aren't child abusers, in the same way that most gay men aren't, nor most men. If we want to talk about this without invoking homophobic and queer-phobic tropes, then we need to think about how to do that.
If people want to read about Queer theory, I guess they can do so themselves.
I don’t condone the death threats, but as Winston said he’s had them and they come with the territory
Anyone who has seen the pics (with their captions) of Doyle’s account, who doesn’t think there’s something to be deeply concerned about is really missing something. I am not sure what the commentary about Doyle has been on this page, so I maybe doing others on this site an injustice. But the Greens have completely minimised the issue and turned the attack back on Winston (who claims Doyle was getting death threats well before he spoke up). Imo the Greens are failing safeguarding and decency. The very l ast Doyle should be stood down from his spokesperson roles that invoke children.
If what I have said is not acceptable to this site. No problem. If people don’t see the major red flag Doyle has presented, then I would be wasting my time to comment any further
“I am not sure what the commentary about Doyle has been on this page, so I maybe doing others on this site an injustice.”
Yes, you are. We’ve been talking about it for three days.
I have no doubt that Peters has had death threats, but no, it doesn’t come with the territory. It’s being deliberately weaponised to both discourage existing MPs, make it harder for people to become MPs, and as a way of making parts of the general population afraid. You know this, the point of making rape threats against women is to scare them. Peters doesn’t represent a vulnerable minority who are already under attack. Doyle does. Further, the Greens have already had an MP physically assaulted on his way to work, in part because of this kind of shit stirring.
The Greens and MSM have said there’s been death threats about the child as well. That’s well over the boundary of ok.
I am astounded by your lack of compassion and your blase attitude to escalating violence in NZ. And yes yes, it’s very complex politically, and the Greens are part of that (vis a vis Albert Park). That’s no reason to minimise it.
I also think that Doyle shouldn’t hold portfolios related to children, because the mixing of adult male sexuality with a pictures of a child on social media, strongly suggests they don’t have appropriate sense of boundaries and child safeguarding. To be clear, I don’t think this makes him a child abuser, I just don’t want MPs in positions of power to be that out of step with social/cultural norms and the protective aspects of them.
If what I have said is not acceptable to this site. No problem. If people don’t see the major red flag Doyle has presented, then I would be wasting my time to comment any further
That’s up to you, but my preference would be you take some responsibility for not putting the site owners at risk from defamation.
If what I have said is not acceptable to this site. No problem. If people don’t see the major red flag Doyle has presented, then I would be wasting my time to comment any further
Not acceptable to me. You don’t cop the aggravation of a defamation claim against this site because I protect your arse. That comes at a price. I expect adequate behaviour that doesn’t bring me aggravation.
What I call “Pig Fucker Politics” specifically refers to the cynical political strategy of leveling outlandish accusations at your political opponent, hoping that by compelling your opponent to contest the ridiculous accusation you have forced them debase themselves and lose their dignity in the process.
Typically done by someone protected by a pseudonym or parliamentary privilege. This was a favourite tactic of Cameron Slater and Whaleoil. Probably still is.
If you actually felt strongly that there was an injustice then the responsible approach would be to inform or lay a complaint with the police. Their job is to investigate, establish the facts and possibly charge before the justice system.
But clearly you haven’t done that, probably because you are aware that it would be a waste of police time – and they will charge that if they detect it. Instead you are trying to make me complicit as a ‘publisher’.
So I’m going to do a pig fucker on your good name. After all you routinely do pig fucker assertions with scant information. So in my honest opinion, other readers should be warned that you also have repeated carnal knowledge of pigs.
So you will find your display name has now changed over the whole site to “Anker the Pig Fucker”. You can still leave comments using your original handle, I have just changed the name displayed. I have also linked definitions of Canker and Pig Fucker on your name so people know what I am talking about.
I’ll remove the code if I ever see an sustained improvement in comment behaviour. Or you can leave your handle behind having lost your existing one. It only takes me a minute or two to add more handles to the rule if you parrot pig fucker smears again.
I was however talking about male people because that's the context this debate is happening on.
Rates of female sex offending against children is low, low enough that we have sex class analysis saying that child sexual abuse is gendered* by perpetrator ie overwhelmingly it's men that do it. One of the reasons we have single sex spaces is because of just how many sexual offences are committed against women and children by men.
*here gender means biological sex not gender identity
That women also sexually abuse children matters when listening to the experiences of people who have been abused, and in designing support and legal responses. But even here an analysis of gendered violence matters, so that we can look at the factors that cause people to sexually assault children.
This ties into issues with gender identity ideology. In the UK, it appears that sex offences get recorded not by sex but by gender identity. Given that women are very small proportion of sex offenders, and men identifying as trans women (whether they are or not), it's not going to take much to skew the stats. It already affects public understand as policy and MSM talk about sex offenders' GI rather than biological sex.
I don't know why you felt the need to say 'women do it too', when we all know this already. Women aren't generally prejudicially attacked over accusations of being sexual offenders in the same way that say gay or queer men are. It was an odd comment.
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Juice Media.
Robert Muldoon and Colin Moyle – railroading part 2.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moyle_Affair
David Seymour and Christopher Luxon have been telling porkies about the pig food slop served at NZ schools.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/556710/new-school-lunches-don-t-give-kids-enough-energy-failing-nutrition-standards-report
Some 60 schools have to find ways to fill the gap left by Libelle.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/556733/sixty-schools-without-tuck-shop-provider-after-libelle-group-went-into-liquidation
At least we are spared Seymour's preferred lower cost and yet (not really) better Cook Strait not rail enabled flagship service.
Nothing much to celebrate there; I threw up my marmite sandwich when I read Winston’s woke wank of self-gratulation and vernacular ventriloquism pulled from his posterior orifice.
The school kids hadn’t read Luxon’s memo: Thou Shall Not Be Distracted [while eating your apple + marmite sandwich].
https://theconversation.com/school-phone-ban-one-year-on-our-student-survey-reveals-mixed-feelings-about-its-success-252179
Banning cell phones at schools falls in the same category of virtue-signalling of being tough on law & order as banning gang patches with a disregard for actual outcomes.
Indeed, young people are active problem solvers, which is a natural skill that should be encouraged and cultivated. Similarly, banning the use of AI at schools and universities would be a stupid mistake. On that note, teaching students how to use social media safely and responsibly is another skill that older generations should take to heart too.
Such micro managing reeks of authoritarianism…
But we can all relax… problems all over..!
Superlux has announced he's going to focus on one of the big ones..
…and all road cones should be quivering in their stacks…or wherever they go/live/cluster..
So no, given Benjamin Doyle’s social media posts, I wonder if some of you might do a deep dive into what the Q onThe LGBTQI + means.
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I deleted your last sentence. Please don't make casual, implied defamatory statements on TS, it puts the site owners at risk.
I’ve asked in the back end about this, because I erred on the side of caution, but would like to know if it was potentially defamatory.
if you want to make an argument about queer culture and child abuse, please make the actual argument, but carefully, not casually, and with regard for the part of the site policy that talks about not using language or tone that excludes people.
My suggestion is that you talk about queer theory's specifics, rather than using generalisations about queerness in general. Peters is currently stirring up hate against queer people and that's reaching dangerous levels (people getting death threats). Hence the need for care here.
Obviously most queer people aren't child abusers, in the same way that most gay men aren't, nor most men. If we want to talk about this without invoking homophobic and queer-phobic tropes, then we need to think about how to do that.
Thanks Weka.
If people want to read about Queer theory, I guess they can do so themselves.
I don’t condone the death threats, but as Winston said he’s had them and they come with the territory
Anyone who has seen the pics (with their captions) of Doyle’s account, who doesn’t think there’s something to be deeply concerned about is really missing something. I am not sure what the commentary about Doyle has been on this page, so I maybe doing others on this site an injustice. But the Greens have completely minimised the issue and turned the attack back on Winston (who claims Doyle was getting death threats well before he spoke up). Imo the Greens are failing safeguarding and decency. The very l ast Doyle should be stood down from his spokesperson roles that invoke children.
If what I have said is not acceptable to this site. No problem. If people don’t see the major red flag Doyle has presented, then I would be wasting my time to comment any further
“I am not sure what the commentary about Doyle has been on this page, so I maybe doing others on this site an injustice.”
Yes, you are. We’ve been talking about it for three days.
I have no doubt that Peters has had death threats, but no, it doesn’t come with the territory. It’s being deliberately weaponised to both discourage existing MPs, make it harder for people to become MPs, and as a way of making parts of the general population afraid. You know this, the point of making rape threats against women is to scare them. Peters doesn’t represent a vulnerable minority who are already under attack. Doyle does. Further, the Greens have already had an MP physically assaulted on his way to work, in part because of this kind of shit stirring.
The Greens and MSM have said there’s been death threats about the child as well. That’s well over the boundary of ok.
I am astounded by your lack of compassion and your blase attitude to escalating violence in NZ. And yes yes, it’s very complex politically, and the Greens are part of that (vis a vis Albert Park). That’s no reason to minimise it.
I also think that Doyle shouldn’t hold portfolios related to children, because the mixing of adult male sexuality with a pictures of a child on social media, strongly suggests they don’t have appropriate sense of boundaries and child safeguarding. To be clear, I don’t think this makes him a child abuser, I just don’t want MPs in positions of power to be that out of step with social/cultural norms and the protective aspects of them.
That’s up to you, but my preference would be you take some responsibility for not putting the site owners at risk from defamation.
Not acceptable to me. You don’t cop the aggravation of a defamation claim against this site because I protect your arse. That comes at a price. I expect adequate behaviour that doesn’t bring me aggravation.
Making unsubstantiated accusations of possibly criminal facts or sly insinuations about them about targeted at a politician as a strategy has a name. That is known in the political world as a pig fucker politics.
Typically done by someone protected by a pseudonym or parliamentary privilege. This was a favourite tactic of Cameron Slater and Whaleoil. Probably still is.
If you actually felt strongly that there was an injustice then the responsible approach would be to inform or lay a complaint with the police. Their job is to investigate, establish the facts and possibly charge before the justice system.
But clearly you haven’t done that, probably because you are aware that it would be a waste of police time – and they will charge that if they detect it. Instead you are trying to make me complicit as a ‘publisher’.
So I’m going to do a pig fucker on your good name. After all you routinely do pig fucker assertions with scant information. So in my honest opinion, other readers should be warned that you also have repeated carnal knowledge of pigs.
So you will find your display name has now changed over the whole site to “Anker the Pig Fucker”. You can still leave comments using your original handle, I have just changed the name displayed. I have also linked definitions of Canker and Pig Fucker on your name so people know what I am talking about.
I’ll remove the code if I ever see an sustained improvement in comment behaviour. Or you can leave your handle behind having lost your existing one. It only takes me a minute or two to add more handles to the rule if you parrot pig fucker smears again.
…in the same way that most gay men aren't, nor most men, nor most women.
I was however talking about male people because that's the context this debate is happening on.
Rates of female sex offending against children is low, low enough that we have sex class analysis saying that child sexual abuse is gendered* by perpetrator ie overwhelmingly it's men that do it. One of the reasons we have single sex spaces is because of just how many sexual offences are committed against women and children by men.
*here gender means biological sex not gender identity
That women also sexually abuse children matters when listening to the experiences of people who have been abused, and in designing support and legal responses. But even here an analysis of gendered violence matters, so that we can look at the factors that cause people to sexually assault children.
This ties into issues with gender identity ideology. In the UK, it appears that sex offences get recorded not by sex but by gender identity. Given that women are very small proportion of sex offenders, and men identifying as trans women (whether they are or not), it's not going to take much to skew the stats. It already affects public understand as policy and MSM talk about sex offenders' GI rather than biological sex.
I don't know why you felt the need to say 'women do it too', when we all know this already. Women aren't generally prejudicially attacked over accusations of being sexual offenders in the same way that say gay or queer men are. It was an odd comment.
This Herald editorial noted the class divide in education.
https://archive.li/6dEQH#selection-3901.48-3901.67
The gap between the LW and MW grows larger, as it does whenever National leads the government.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/556747/living-wage-to-be-increased-to-28-point-95-per-hour-from-september
Super up 3% from 1 April – the net average wage change over the past year.
Benefits up by 2% the inflation rate, as per usual higher than National increased MW (only 1.5%, ACT's Minister wanted only 1%)
https://www.1news.co.nz/2025/03/31/minimum-wage-power-bills-whats-changing-on-april-1/
will be funded by Pharmac.