Emmerson – What they did in the shadows

Written By: - Date published: 9:36 am, September 10th, 2014 - 16 comments
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The best commentary on dirty politics has come from the cartoonists. And Emmerson is the best of the best:

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16 comments on “Emmerson – What they did in the shadows ”

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  1. Paul 1
    10 September 2014 at 9:44 am

    On the same subject…’Go back to sleep New Zealand.’

    George Carlin

    And Bill Hicks

  2. cogito 2
    10 September 2014 at 9:53 am

    Or as Dotcom has put it:

    “he [Key] could probably survive shooting little kittens in his garden with a shotgun, even if there is picture evidence of that”.
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11321712

  3. ianmac 3
    10 September 2014 at 9:57 am

    Emmerson in one picture and Carlin in a 3 minute speech sum it all up. What sort of world will my grandkids inherit?
    Somehow I have the feeling that Key/Joyce are laughing at our gullibility. Every time they speak I can see beyond the words, there is a glitter of sneering contempt – for us. Surely not all National MPs are corrupt -are they?
    Democracy is really under threat. What can we do about it?

    • greywarbler 3.1
      10 September 2014 at 10:22 am

      @ ianmac 9.57
      I think just trying to keep our heads above water, and look for floating objects to hold onto, and help each other by sharing in the lifeboats.

      The film A Life of Pi could be an analogy for how to cope with the unthinkable, organise, keep the brain active and focussed but still somehow healthy and balanced, and eventually arrive at a better place.

      Wikipedia says in its summary. in Growth through Adversity: in its item on Life of Pi.
      PBS has described Martel’s story as one of “personal growth through adversity.”[15] The main character learns that “tigers are dangerous” at a young age when his father forces him to watch the zoo’s Royal Bengal tiger patriarch, Mahisha, devour a live goat. Later, after he has been reduced to eking out a desperate existence on the lifeboat with the company of a fully grown tiger, Pi develops “alpha” qualities as he musters the strength, will and skills he needs to survive.[
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_of_Pi
      (It says that Pi develops alpha qualities which are dominating ones which are not appropriate for our survival rather resourcefulness and ability to form intelligent focussed informed co-operative groups.)

  4. distubed 4
    10 September 2014 at 10:31 am

    But Dotcom is unsure how the public will react, especially following the fallout – or lack of fallout – from Dirty Politics.

    “When I read Nicky Hager’s book, I thought, ‘It’s over for John Key’. I didn’t think the New Zealand public would put up with something like that, and I’m really surprised how little impact the book had.

    We have been marched over by the worst propaganda since pre-war Germany using virtually the same tactics here.

    Stripping out the investigative journalism stables so they could use only brainwashing by the tabloid MSM was always part f their Nazi like agenda.

    Now it is coming true, so why should we be surprised?

    NZ is now on display to the world as a shinning example of another hollowed out country by a process used by a hollowed out Government and media combined to take away our fragile Freedoms and Democracy.

    The Government & MSM are surely our enemies conspiring against all this and our miserable future we see ahead.

    • Gosman 4.1
      10 September 2014 at 12:33 pm

      Godwin’d

      • Draco T Bastard 4.1.1
        10 September 2014 at 2:33 pm

        Doesn’t make it any less true. In fact, I’m pretty sure that the way you just used Godwin amounts to a logical fallacy. After all, you didn’t actually argue any points.

        • Gosman 4.1.1.1
          10 September 2014 at 10:34 pm

          Ahhh. .. it makes the point made completely redundant. As much as you dislike the right in NZ Draco they are nothing like the Nazis. But hey if you want to play that game, your proposals also involve massive destruction of individual rights and freedoms just like the Nazis. Your views will lead ultimately to the same conclusion. Now try engaging in sensible debate from that point.

  5. disturbed 5
    10 September 2014 at 3:04 pm

    How quaint Gosman is just about anything he/she applies the hollow comments to.

    Sorry Gasman I wont accept your crap any more than anyone else here will.
    Fact; Gotcha,
    John Key lied when he said the dirty politics was a Labour produced smear campaign. You are just a propagandist.

    http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/top-level-kiwis-hit-global-adobe-hack-6076397
    TV one featured last night the following;

    “High-ranking and powerful New Zealanders are among the 150 million people hit by last year’s hacking of software company Adobe,” ONE News has revealed.

    ONE News has discovered this includes six workers at our spy agency, the GCSB; 75 Defence personnel; 3,200 Government employees including police; and 60 parliamentary staff, among them, Jason Ede – former adviser to John Key – linked to Whale Oil blogger Cameron Slater who had his emails hacked.

    Mr Slater’s emails featured in Nicky Hager’s book Dirty Politics and put the issue of cyber security into the middle of the election campaign. Police are now investigating the Slater hacking.

    But one IT security expert, Daniel Ayers, believes it’s possible Mr Slater’s emails were accessed after hackers broke into Adobe, exposing a mountain of email account names and passwords.

    “Cameron Slater has two email addresses and passwords listed in this data. And so that means it’s very likely that this was the method that was used to compromise him back in March,” Mr Ayers says.

    Mr Slater rejects that theory.

    But here’s what happened. Some time last year, a hacker stole the data of 150 million Adobe users and then shared it with other hackers, the same way pirated software is shared.

    That hacked information is now stored on hard-drives around the world and anyone with IT knowhow can get it.

    “This data has been promulgated across the world, and so the people who are most likely to have access to it are people that have bothered to go and get it, which are hackers,” Mr Ayers says.
    Email accounts of six spy agency workers from the GCSB are among the hacked information, exposing their email addresses and passwords.

    Mr Ayers says the issue of people reusing passwords is a very bad problem.

    “So if people have used the same passwords on the Adobe site that they use elsewhere, and especially if they haven’t changed them, then they are seriously in trouble.”

    The GCSB says it was alerted to the incident at the time and took steps to deal with affected accounts.

    Data from the police electronic crime unit also features on the list, as well as 75 defence and 60 parliamentary staff. Others on the list include TVNZ staff, and Jason Ede, the former prime ministerial staffer who allegedly leaked information to Cameron Slater.
    Serious questions around John Key must be made by MSM as to why the media allowed the Key claim this was a Labour Party conspiracy after all we know now as Key knew then why did he lie to us all when he was advised it came from overseas in may 2013?

    We now all know that side of the “Dirty politics” saga!

    John Key tried to turn it into a smear campaign blaming Labour for it but now we know better don’t we?

    • Gosman 5.1
      10 September 2014 at 10:37 pm

      You may well be right but that doesn’t make the a National party equivalent to the Nazis. The fact you can’t comprehend that makes the issue yours not mine.

  6. aerobubble 6
    10 September 2014 at 3:50 pm

    What erks me is the polls, Polls that show Key 5% ahead but when the votes are counted, Key ain’t. Polls that are so wrong, consistently before a election should be banned from polling a month out of the next election. Or editors should stop using their results as what editor wants to be giving false accounts. So I suggest media should stop declaring polling, and stop spending money on pollsters who were so bad at it last election, until election day. And popularity should never be polled, its just a dumb measure.

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