Auckland 12 Feb – Wellington 14 Feb – Nelson 20 Feb – Christchurch 21 Feb – Dunedin 22 Feb
The TPPA-11 has had a rebranding to the CPTPPA (Comprehensive and Progressive Trans Pacific Partnership Agreement) – yet there is very little that is comprehensive or progressive about it, and very little has changed from the original TPPA.
The 11 nations that are party to the agreement will be meeting in Chile to sign the TPPA-11 on 8th March.
Come along and hear experts Professor Jane Kelsey, Dr Burcu Kilic, and Laila Harre speak in Auckland and Wellington, and Professor Jane Kelsey plus other speakers in Nelson, Christchurch and Dunedin about what the TPPA-11 will mean for New Zealand.
Event Details
Auckland:
Monday 12 Feb, 6.30pm, Ellen Melville Centre, corner of High St and Freyberg Place, Auckland CBD
https://www.facebook.com/events/865008510327414/
Wellington:
Wednesday 14 Feb, 6.30pm, Wesley Church, 75 Taranaki St, Wellington
https://www.facebook.com/events/1578636985577465/
Nelson:
Tuesday 20 Feb, 7pm, Masonic Lodge, 107 Nile Street, Nelson
https://www.facebook.com/events/1387701038008990/
Christchurch:
Wednesday 21 Feb, 7pm, Knox Chruch, 28 Bealey Avenue, Christchurch
https://www.facebook.com/events/405312726576602/
Dunedin:
Thursday, 22 Feb, 6pm, Knox Chruch, 449 George St, Dunedin
https://www.facebook.com/events/987240044767300/
These are the comments I made on Daily Review on the 12th, watching the livestream of the Auckland meeting – hope they put it online as a vid soon:
Laila Harre: “TPPA is not a gold standard for labour rights”.
Laila Harre on TPPA: “NZ can be sued for labour issues – there is no carve out from ISDS for labour measures.”
Labour law measures current;y being promised by the government, could be sued.
Laila Harre: how to engage with government? – there are signs the government respects “our position”.
eg Drop gold std line on labour standards.
Needs to be a full review of labour content in TTPA.
Need to maintain NZ sovereignty over labour laws and regulation.
Kelsey: few protections of NZ climate change measures in TPPA – weaker than other similar agreements.
Kelsey: TPPA type agreements are in crisis – Labour desperate to keep the model alive – or at least some people in Labour caucus, plus others overseas.
Kelsey: Winston is for the model. We don’t need to be against the government as a whole, but need to shift the balance towards something more progressive, – the balance of govt?
National Day of Action against TPPA-11 on Sunday March 4th – rally in Aotea Square in Auckland.
Call for big action in Wellington on March 8th, the day the TPP is going to be signed.
Call for volunteers to work for campaign against TPPA, and sign the “Don’t do it” petition.
NB: Today (14th Feb) I can’t seem to log into TS from any computer (mac or pc, or any browser – get temporarily locked out message).
Thank you for this precis Carolyn-nth. The Live Stream the other night started off fine, then fizzled out. Very frustrating for those of us trying to keep up with this.
Will this government back away from this nefarious deal if we kick up shit? Will we be protesting in the big cities and small towns like we did in 2016?
What little optimism this aging cynic had in this new ‘progressive’ government is fading fast.
I reckon that when they become government MPs they get taken into some secret room at the Beehive and have the secret knowledge implanted in their brains that make them subservient to the big corporations. Kinda like a Stepford Wives thing, only without the baking.
Last time there were single page information sheets we could print off and hand out to anyone interested…do you know if there is anything similar with this latest campaign?
It is depressing this government.
I found the livestream came good after a while.
Kelsey said that the government does have respect for the anti-TPPA arguments, and that we should treat the government with respect in the way we campaign against the TPPA – and try to shift the balance – I guess of the government and the left – towards something more progressive.
I don’t know where JK gets her graciousness from…I hope someone returns that respect and actually listens to her concerns.
Me…I’m of two minds.
Show respect…ie;- by expressing concern but no direct action/disruptive stuff or go full ‘let’s not do this shit’ ranty?
I would hate to think that 10 years down the track my mokos will be asking why we trusted this lot and let them get away with being only superficially less status quo than the last mob.
They are only accountable at the poll and even then only for the briefest period of time Rosemary. That is why we need to overhaul our system of govt.
I’m not what you would call a protester type so maybe that’s why I don’t understand protesting the day of the signing?
Seems to me like you want to focus energy on lobbying well before March 8th so you can change things??
What’s the point of the meetings?
Muttonbird was very clear the other day that
“There’s 12 changes not including the foreign buyer ban. That’s significant, and what’s more has assuaged most Kiwi’s concerns.”
Since most people’s concerns have been assuaged – are we not all on the same page now that this is good to sign ?
You’ve seen the full text?
The document entire?
With no blanked -out redacted bits?
Share with us.
I’m not the one saying that
Muttonbird bird is.
You’ll need to ask Muttonbird, seems to be the one with the knowledge
It seems that no-one yet even the government ministers have sen the compete finalised (agreed to agreement) yet so it is a real shambles isn’t it?
We should all be worried how this is shaping up and not listen to national trolls here either as they would send us down the road to ruin.
As long as the ISDS stays in place I think you will find few people will applaud this monstrosity. Similar deals like NAFTA created during the Bush era and passed by Clinton have seen countries like Canada become the most sued in the world. Its also seen Canadian govt’s compelling to revoke policy that protects the environment. If you don’t believe me just Google it.
Since there has been no formal survey that I’m aware of this is just a claim.
“most people” is not reflective of those around me – I’d say the occasional person is more accurate.
Everyone who follows Labour blindly and takes the Prime Minister at her word thinks it is good to sign.
Anyone who actually understands the original issues realises that it far from clear what has changed if anything.
Never trust a politician at his word.
Wait for the text
They may think people will forget about this in time but personally I feel they are simply alienating left wing voters and with their paper thin majority that’s something they can ill afford to do.
Just as importantly can anyone see much of a “point of difference” between the Nats and so called Labour? Damned if I can. Personally my wife and I are far better off financially under National than Labour but we believe in preserving the Kiwi way of life. From my perspective Labour are not delivering on that hope so where’s the benefit in voting for them and their pals?
They will sign the TPP and then no doubt make a myriad of excuses as to its merits (if has none I can see) backed up by the corporate MSM.
Whether they get in next election is anyone’s guess but if I were in their shoes I’d be more concerned about long term support but then long term thinking has never been NZ govts strong suit.
Any RIP Kiwi way of life, RIP left.
No government should be able to sign any treaty, agreement or contract with any provider of tax payer funded services that extend beyond the next election.
They have no right to commit us all to these deals in perpetuity.
In business, I’m pretty sure it would be considered stupid to commit to such a long term, less than transparent contract.
I’m not seeing much point of difference either.
DON’T DO IT NZ!
DON’T SIGN THE RESURRECTED TPPA-11!
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Signed but I doubt they are listening but then when have they ever?
I’ve always had the sneaky suspicion that Labour is full of Neo-Labourals… The TPPA soft shoe shuffling will test Jacinda’s metle … I’m waiting for some policies that are not popular with the MSM. A well funded quality public Service broadcaster, TV and Radio, would be awesome.
Labour has always been in full favour of the delusional free-trade capitalism.
Labour established neoliberalism in 1984.
It has yet to fully disown that action.
Hey hey hey for all the naysayers just read this and relax a little
https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/homed/celebrity-homes/101361351/Our-life-in-things-PM-Jacinda-Ardern-and-Clarke-Gayford
Its like we’re all taking part don’t you think 🙂
Video of the meeting on Monday here
Given we don’t even know how big a dog TPPA actually is , why don’t we strengthen the Overseas Investment Act so that it is just about impossible to actually invest here. Frankly I see very few benefits from our current regime & a heap of downsides so why not?
And no grandfathering -TPPA should not apply to current overseas investment here- they did it without protection so they must be happy enough.
Sadly our government like our workers and big companies like Fletchers have lost their way and become ‘hopeless’.
Their drug of choice is neoliberalism.
The high of the international meetings and putting their names next to Vietnam and China fills them with a sense they are not alone out there, and their fear they can’t hack it in the global world is lessoned while they take the lazy route, rather than something that will adapt NZ for the future and take our own path.
Lange managed (probably by accident) to make the right call on NO Nukes into NZ and go out alone. It worked. The world respected it.
Labour does not have the guts anymore. It’s all Vogue magazines for the PM and beneath the covers the neoliberal soldiers on trying to make the zombie agreements work. (Mostly by keeping them secret so non neoliberal’s can’t point out the flaws). It may not be democratic but a lack of democracy is in the spirit of both TPPA and neoliberalism and now infiltrating labour itself.
Labour and NZ First don’t understand the risk of signing 6000 pages they don’t understand, but feel (like the Emperors new clothes) that it’ll be fine because other people are doing it too.
China and OZ and Canada have NZ’s best interest’s at heart – don’t they? Things are rosy in NZ, a lovely warm house for everyone, farmers rolling in money, business bringing in bountiful taxes, hospitals and schools at the top of international rankings, social welfare a thing of the past as trickle down makes everybody in NZ rich like we were promised in the 80’s, productivity steaming ahead, super fund is overflowing with cash and government debt down, leading the way in environmental practises….. What neoliberalism and these free trade agreements didn’t deliver to the people after 30 years of it ??????
So lets make it worse by doing neoliberalism on steroids with more of the same with TPPA – faux changed version!
Trust the intellectual yet idiot, dinosaurs and their youthful neanderthal followers from the neoliberal years, even though they seem to be wrong judging from NZ’s results for many people and the government?
Borrowing money and selling off assets like power, farms and businesses is not actually economic gain.
There is no economic, social or environmental reason for Labour to sign the TPPA, they know it will not be popular and not bode well for next election. But such is their strong need for their drug, they can’t bear to go on without it and face life sober of another path.
Labour have become so insecure about themselves that they can’t bear not be part of something and choosing to abstain from a global agreement that is not right, previous agreements have failed to deliver to the majority of the country on the criteria above (apart from overseas property sales). And even then NZ companies like Fletchers seems to have made a hash of it rather than capitalising on it.
People may be making money out of NZ and free trade agreements here, but it’s not the Kiwis who live here.
NZ First is toast. This goes against their fundamental reason of being.
Labour will also take a hit. Although, if National’s support dislike their new leader, some
Nats may swing to Labour, softening the blow.
At least the Greens were smart enough to know they wouldn’t survive supporting it.
Nevertheless, Labour won’t back down now. This is a done deal as far as they are concerned, IMO.
There’s still hope. Maybe Parker will stumble from Wellington into Auckland and discover the joys of South Auckland, central Auckland and Albany ghetto’s.
Spend 5 hours in traffic detours sampling the combined wealth of takeaways and fake degrees making NZ the land of the unskilled $2p/h worker (under the table of course). He can sample Burger King and Happy Liquor outlets and realise NZ, made it into the international franchise world where liquor is cheaper than milk.
A Domino’s pizza (Bill’s delivering to NZ), is cheaper than the power to make a pizza in the emergency housing at $1000 p/w per room and probably comes with free transfats and nutritional malnutrition with obesity paid from the health system.
His mind can boggle at the amount of leaky wrapped buildings bankrupting the ordinary folks and book into the Hyatt and see the luxury apartments being built when just the Body Corporate fees are larger than the average wage.
The free markets, the free markets where corporates get a bargain!