20 comments on “Nicky Hager public lecture Wednesday ”

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1. philj 1

   25 August 2014 at 9:25 pm

   xox
   Thank you so much. I will watch the live stream. Nicky Hagar is a courageous individual will a dedication to truth and democracy. That’s why governments find him threatening to their skull duggery and dirty tricks.
2. karol 2

   25 August 2014 at 9:34 pm

   Great. Glad they are streaming it.

   I have too much on at the moment to make it to the actual lecture.
3. Mark Derby 3

   25 August 2014 at 9:41 pm

   That’s “Hager”, for god’s sake
   • lprent 3.1

     25 August 2014 at 10:51 pm

     Not my post. I checked the post repeatedly damnit!

     If you see an error, point it out. Don’t address the comment to the ether. I read it, check it, and if I think you’re wasting my time I remove the nuisance who did it.

     In this case you very nearly got a 2 week ban for being an imprecise waster of the moderators time.
     • Rich 3.1.1

       25 August 2014 at 11:17 pm

       Can I just make a suggestion to those of you with an interest.

       Companies Office is a rich source of information.
4. fdx 4

   25 August 2014 at 10:54 pm

   PHEW…
   I have just finished the book.
   I knew what to expect, but never the less I am truly disgusted.
   Am utterly gobsmacked that the psychopathic Key has the balls not to resign and run away.
   Key, Slater, Collins, Ede, Lusk, Farrar et al should be widely publicly condemned for the low life scum that they are. Unbelievable! Unforgivable!
   • RedLogix 4.1

     25 August 2014 at 11:44 pm

     Yes – that is the point fdx.

     A large section of the media have completely overlooked the real story – and narrowed it down to a few ‘technical’ matters around whether Key ‘knew’ this or that about an OIA.

     What puzzles me is this. Can they not really see how deeply wrong and unacceptable this behaviour has been – or are they deliberately complicit in it?
     • blue leopard 4.1.1

       26 August 2014 at 12:57 am

       +1,000,000

       Exactly Red Logix, very succinctly put.

       I have been puzzling over the same questions.

       I lean toward the view that members of the media lack the necessary critical intelligence required – a fairly constant problem when it comes to our media. I wish they were capable of critique, sound democracy is undermined without it.

       Then again, this book wouldn’t have been needed to be written if at least some members our media were doing their jobs properly.
     • emergency mike 4.1.2

       26 August 2014 at 1:55 am

       Yes RL. The National party is all over this book, Collins has given the name of a public servant to Slater who then attacked him, and she demonstrably misled the PM about it.

       What’s wrong with our media?
       • disturbed 4.1.2.1

         26 August 2014 at 8:47 am

         Emergency mike you asked “what’s wrong with our media?

         All owned by foreign Corporations like Rupert Murdock and others.

         Public media TVNZ, RNZ, are both heavily controlled by this ruthless propagandist Minister Steven Joyce, and we have another 1933 NAZI Goebbels in drag.
       • Tracey 4.1.2.2

         26 August 2014 at 4:53 pm

         if they are advancing up the greasy pole they dont tcare how?
     • Tracey 4.1.3

       26 August 2014 at 4:50 pm

       exactly
5. Vinfred Warner 5

   26 August 2014 at 2:30 am

   Erm, anyone have any idea what site this will be on, here, or will it be hosted somewhere else. Am in Germany and would be super keen to watch it, kind of difficult to get to Dominion Road from here.
   • Rich 5.1

     26 August 2014 at 7:42 am

     I hope you don’t mind me asking you a few questions based on where you are. Does Germany have similar problems to what’s going on here? Does Merkel use the same political underhanded tactics?

     And what is the situation regarding the sale of land in Germany, are non-European citizens/residents able to purchase? Are other Europeans able to purchase under the same conditions as German citizens. And I’ve often read about how Germans are more likely to rent their houses than to own them. Does that work well or not?
     • Vincent Roy Warner 5.1.1

       27 August 2014 at 8:10 am

       FYI I’m a kiwi and have been living in Germany for a year and a half. In terms of politics Germany can change drastically from city to city and region to region. As someone has already commented here Germany is an incredibly regimented society with rules for everything, and so many forms it’ll make your head spin. For instance, the simple act of getting broadband takes at least three to four weeks, you’ll recieve a modem within one but a technician will have to come out to your house to plug it in and turn it on. Then he will issue a passcode to the company to turn on the internet, which can take another week for someone to check paperwork and push a button.

       Germany is quite inside a vaccuum when it comes to immigration, they have different thresholds for different countries, for instance anyone applying for a visa from the baltic region are immediately turned down, whereas a NZ’er like myself can easily get a working holiday visa no problems, However full time work is a whole ‘nother kettle of fish. The Germans have so many bureaus for everything that it’s impossible to get correct information most of the time because a) the departments do not in any way communicate with eachother, b) nothing is online, c) the people working for bureaus only perform their job and nothing else. This can get annoying as it feels like you’re never actually speaking to a person.

       In terms of housing Germans have rather cheap properties, and people mostly live in apartments, however if you want a house like something akin to a villa in Grey Lynn they are certainly available but either incredibly expensive in a main city or fairly cheap in a small village a couple of hours drive away from a main on the autobahn city. I currently work for a Irish woman who bought her business property with her husband at the time who was German but I’ve not heard of many non EU citizens having luck in purchasing property, or businesses unless they are rather well resourced and I mean incredibly well resourced, and certainly a much higher threshold than what we impose in NZ. Rental properties are very affordable over here, but once again it depends on where you are, the studio apartment i live in now is around 900 NZ a month which is almost in the centre of Freiburg, and has many cool things to it like a soccer field, big coutryard, and so on, however this was an amazing find and most are paying a lot more than what i pay. The renting of houses is a slitght overestimation as in big city centre like Frankfurt, Berlin and so on this idea of renting is very pheasible but the smaller villages and cities it makes no sense. To answer on Merkel, she is very hated by most students and artists, 30-50 year olds are very happy with her. The thing with German politics is that there is paper trails for everything, so it seems rather transparent. If anything of the magnitude of what’s been happening with Hager’s new book, there would be riots and I’m very sure public outrage and demonstrations and heads would roll. It’s a shame we don’t have the same level of political interest in NZ.

       Sorry for the long post, the long and short of Germany is…
       Germany is incredibly selective about who can come and work in their country. The same goes with property and businesses. They also do not like importing things, they prefer to make it all, this is why everything in Germany is cheap, and you can’t get a good cup of tea or coffee anywhere. Food is half the price of what it is in NZ, but NZ food is 1000 times better quality. Public travel is easy, fast and effective but expensive. It’s a fantatsic place to save, as your living costs are very low but the endless red tape and laws for the smallest things get really irritating.
       • Rich 5.1.1.1

         27 August 2014 at 8:51 am

         Thanks Vincent, very informative.
   • lprent 5.2

     26 August 2014 at 7:54 am

     We will be live streaming it tomorrow. The post is scheduled to appear on the site at about 6:20pm NZST
   • disturbed 5.3

     26 August 2014 at 9:23 am

     Rich, Before Warner replies, here’s’ a kiwi brief.

     I have a son working in Southern Germany for 9 yrs.

     They are a very controlled and regulated people, (especially south west where he is, and as a Kiwi he always gets a kickback when his boss expects him to work all hours without notice and he refuses to work weekends, which he is at constant odds with the boss.

     He was stopped by a cop there and the cop read the riot act that he needed a German drivers licence if living there.

     He only had two current licences, a British and NZ drivers licence and currently holds three passports also.

     But as a kiwi, when he fought back & read the cop the EU rights and privileges the cop was speechless.

     This rigidity may give you some idea where Key is taking as.
     • Rich 5.3.1

       27 August 2014 at 8:54 am

       Thanks disturbed, re the drivers licence though, maybe in Europe you don’t need to convert your DL to a local one if you’re EU but I’ve found if you spend more than say 3-6 months somewhere/anywhere then it is expected and required that you have a local DL.
6. disturbed 6

   26 August 2014 at 8:40 am

   Nicky Hager is worthy of being our next Prime minister,

   Nicky has elevated us when he showed the true values we should hold dear, by fighting against lies, deceit & corrupt government we currently have and hopefully gone in September.

   Placing himself on the line for our democracy, places him in the same bravery category as those who departed to foreign shores to fight and die for our freedom and democracy.

   Great New Zealander that needs to get recognised for his bravery.

   The price of freedom & Democracy is constant vigilance.

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