No Changes for Kiwiblog

Written By: - Date published: 9:34 am, August 19th, 2014 - 112 comments
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David Farrar at Kiwiblog is trying to wash off some of the stench of Dirty Politics.

Best quote “I don’t believe that the book shows me having acted in any way inappropriately.” So “Princess Parties” are perfectly appropriate for David:

FarrarDPF-PrincessParties

His action points for cleaning up his sewer (after the election of course) are populated by weasel words like “substantially”, “Generally”, ” more often” and “tougher”.

Expect business as usual at Kiwiblog.

[Update: For the record, I note that Farrar now denies the allegation in Dirty Politics that he organised the “Princess Party”, though he did attend. As to why writers sometimes choose to remain anonymous, such as me on this occasion, look no further than the climate of intimidation created by the Nats’ attack politics machine. Who needs that kind of filth, I don’t.]

[Update: For the record, I note that Farrar’s denials are contradicted by material later released by Whaledump. “Pinko” is Slater’s nickname for Farrar:

farrar-DPF-princess-party

]

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  1. Harriet 1
    19 August 2014 at 9:55 am

    DPF has listed about half a dozen changes. With large explainations.

    How did you miss them?

    • Te Reo Putake 1.1
      19 August 2014 at 10:08 am

      The post is only four sentences long. How come you didn’t read it?

      • ghostwhowalksnz 1.1.1
        19 August 2014 at 12:26 pm

        Add in that Farrar uses the US embassy as a duty free grog shop for his ‘princess parties’ and he of course is a known source of intelligence operatives in the Embassy.

        We do know that the US Embassy supplies duty free grog for the annual press gallery party, under what legal authority would be interesting. Duty free grog is only available for foreign missions for use on their premises. To supply others in large quantities seems a breach of liquor laws.

        • Colonial Viper 1.1.1.1
          20 August 2014 at 12:10 am

          In Ecuador the US embassy had friendly units of the Ecuadorian police on the US Embassy payroll. So bending a few liquor laws is immaterial.

    • karol 1.2
      19 August 2014 at 10:43 am

      I’m not keen on blogs signing up to the “media” – ie like journalists. DPF says,

      Kiwiblog is sending in an application today to join the Online Media Standards Authority. I’m not doing this so I can be called media. I don’t intend to label myself as media. I’m a blogger. I’m doing it so I can be held accountable to a public code of ethics and standards, and an independent complaint procedure. The code of ethics and standards will apply to both myself, and all guest bloggers here.

      The law already covers things to keep blogs from doing very bad things. eg the laws of defamation.

      Blogs are different from news media – though, DPF is way more into blogging as part of his paid activities eg aligned to his role in polling for the National Party.

      It isn’t so much the WO blog itself that is the arena of dirty politics: it was the underhand behind the scenes stuff in which Slater et al + Nat staffers, were involved in. The nastiness of the WO blog is there in public, for all those who care to see. It’s why I rarely go there.

      • Tom Gould 1.2.1
        19 August 2014 at 11:02 am

        Farrar is still turning up on Newstalk ZB and other places as an ‘independent political commentator’ despite all the astonishing revelations, commenting and passing judgement on those very same revelations. I guess the nasty Tory show has to go on, a sort-of on-going ‘smear campaign 2.0’? Will they still use all the carefully prepared character assassinations arranged for this election, once the dust settles? Maybe someone could ask the smiling assassin what he knows about what is already in the pipeline, until Hager came along?

        • karol 1.2.1.1
          19 August 2014 at 11:11 am

          I see there are reports that the police are looking to follow up on the complaint from Slater that his website was hacked.

          Will an investigation, and/or arrest mean that all talk about Hager’s book must cease in public?

          And what happened about the complaints the Green Party submitted to the police about allegations of illegal activities, as revealed in the book?

          Edit: Ah – misleading headline & front page promo on NZ Herald – headline is:

          ‘Teapot Tapes’ cop to look at Slater complaint

          Front page promo:

          Breaking:
          The officer who headed the ‘Paintergate’ and ‘Teapot Tapes’ inquiries is assessing a complaint over the hacking of Whale Oil blogger Cameron Slater’s computer.

          Within the actual article is this:

          Despite some media reports, Mr Burgess is not “investigating” any complaints.

          Police have so far received two complaints. Those include one from Mr Slater and another from a political party.

          The complaints are being coordinated through the Office of the Assistant Commissioner Investigations at PNHQ, which is acting as a central point to collect any complaints, before being assigned to the appropriate staff for follow up.

          Police will be making no further comment while these matters are being assessed.

          How long the process may take is unknown.

          • ghostwhowalksnz 1.2.1.1.1
            19 August 2014 at 12:22 pm

            Perhaps the police will help out the pizza businessman who had his emails stolen a few years back and selectively published by the Oily Orca.

            His is a long road without any official assistance, his court actions against Slater are done without lawyers let alone police.

            This spin is too absurd, its driven from the National party who desperately want to shut it all down with the mantra ‘ cant comment its under police investigation’

        • Mark Petersen 1.2.1.2
          19 August 2014 at 4:18 pm

          Farrar has never hidden or disguised the fact that he is a National Party supporter and centre right political blogger so cannot see the point you are endeavouring to make here.

          • Colonial Viper 1.2.1.2.1
            20 August 2014 at 12:11 am

            That he isn’t correctly identified on shows as a right wing blogger and National Party stalwart.

      • ghostwhowalksnz 1.2.2
        19 August 2014 at 1:48 pm

        Funny that Farrar took forever to sigh up to the Market Research Association for his company Curia.
        It would have seemed that he didnt like the code of ethics ?

        I find it hard to believe that never in his entire career that he hasnt had a list of questions asked by one of his MR competitors in his hot little hands.

        Labours in house polling of questions and attitudes would be a goldmine if he had their lists of questions from time to time.

      • Dialey 1.2.3
        19 August 2014 at 6:59 pm

        He focused all his attention to his application to the Online Media Standards Authority on Jim Mora’s panel today, trying to show that he really does have integrity, and probably to avoid awkward questions

  2. vto 2
    19 August 2014 at 10:01 am

    That site is dying a slow and agonising death

    • TheContrarian 2.1
      19 August 2014 at 10:23 am

      Kiwiblog consistently ranks higher than The Standard so probably not going anywhere anytime soon

      • vto 2.1.1
        19 August 2014 at 10:32 am

        Ranks higher? By what measure? Each time I look particularly at the number of comments left on each of Farrar’s threads and there is little comment.

        Perhaps your measure measures something else.

        • TheContrarian 2.1.1.1
          19 August 2014 at 10:36 am

          As per visits and page views:
          https://openparachute.wordpress.com/nz-blog-ranks/

        • TightyRighty 2.1.1.2
          19 August 2014 at 10:40 am

          The same old tired lefties screaming the death of their enemies repeatedly isn’t an indicator of the success of a blog.

          • grumpystilskin 2.1.1.2.1
            19 August 2014 at 11:45 am

            People engaging with posts is a more accurate indicator of success.

            • TheContrarian 2.1.1.2.1.1
              19 August 2014 at 12:12 pm

              Of course it is dear.

            • vto 2.1.1.2.1.2
              19 August 2014 at 12:15 pm

              grumpy, people have different measures of success yes

              I mean if success is truly measured by sheer numbers as posited here then the most successful people in NZ are the average people.

              bit of a nonsense

            • Tracey 2.1.1.2.1.3
              19 August 2014 at 1:24 pm

              you mean like carrick graham having two ids at WO so he can mock maori and say fk and ct and defend the post he just sent to slater for slater to put up as slater’s own writing = success?

              • felix …
                19 August 2014 at 7:11 pm

                Frankly I think it’s extremely charitable to imagine he has only two (well, three counting “Cameron Slater” but that’s clearly a shared login).

                The other question is how many of the commenters are just Cameron? There’s not really much variation in style or content over there.

              • Murray Olsen …
                20 August 2014 at 4:14 am

                Aw Tracey, you should go easy on poor Carrick. After all, he does have to live down a criminal father.

          • tricledrown 2.1.1.2.2
            19 August 2014 at 8:02 pm

            Yeah Right tight arse almighty you being on here makes you a hypocrite!
            Since you and your Dirty Tricks brigade have been outed the numbers of posts have sky rocketed even with the mass desertion of paid shill and echelon usurpers!
            your scraping the bottom of the barrel logic lead hedonistic misogynist!
            yesterday you were praising the green party’s policy!

    • pollywog 2.2
      19 August 2014 at 11:10 am

      I been kicking some life into it lately, putting the boot in as it were to a select few worthy of it.

      Don’t have a problem with DPF, he’s relatively up front about his shortcomings.But jeez some of those commenters are on a par with here.

      …angry old white men living in the past 🙂

      • vto 2.2.1
        19 August 2014 at 11:23 am

        Yep, wouldn’t want to be an old white male, no sireee

        • pollywog 2.2.1.1
          19 August 2014 at 11:37 am

          Nothing wrong with being an old white male. My dad was one.

          It’s the angry part and the sense of entitlement to vent your spleen in public as per the tradiotional right of old white men that lets them down.

          It’s like the internet has given them a renewed soapbox to espouse their opinion without realising that if it’s uninformed and based on inherent bias and privilege, it’s essentially worthless.

          IMHO 🙂

          chickety check yaself before ya wreck yaself!

          • vto 2.2.1.1.1
            19 August 2014 at 11:44 am

            Agreed. Goes for anyone who spouts off in some baseless manner – worthless

            Bouncing around on blogs brings one into contact with countless other viewpoints and, if the blog is decent, evidence to back up those other viewpoints. Aint no hiding in those circumstances.

            This is one of the better aspects of the wider communication that the internet brings. Hard to remain in your own little world where everybody agrees with you.

          • Minarch 2.2.1.1.2
            19 August 2014 at 3:50 pm

            “chickety check yaself before ya wreck yaself!”

            Cause shotgun bullets are bad for your health……..

            • felix 2.2.1.1.2.1
              19 August 2014 at 7:15 pm

              lol that line, shotgun “bullets”. Not his best work.

              • TheContrarian …
                19 August 2014 at 7:24 pm

                Yah, but a fucking dope track anyway (ammunition fail notwithstanding)

                • felix …
                  19 August 2014 at 7:40 pm

                  Ya totes. No-one nails them all.

                  • TheContrarian …
                    19 August 2014 at 7:43 pm

                    Raekwon gets pretty close though

                    • felix …
                      19 August 2014 at 7:57 pm

                      True. You know what really gets me about the Cube one though?

                      It would’ve been such an easy edit to drop in “pellets”.

                      But apparently, from the time of the recording, right through all of the mixing, and then the mastering, hearing that line over and over and over again, of all of the people involved in the production process, and all of the friends and hangers-on and other artists dropping in, and all of the visiting label people who love to make suggestions…

                      …not one of them deemed it worth mentioning.

            • David 2.2.1.1.2.2
              19 August 2014 at 11:42 pm

              Wasn’t it “shotgun wounds” ??

    • Mark Petersen 2.3
      19 August 2014 at 4:21 pm

      vto one thing about Farrah’s blog is that it is consistently ranked higher than this one so does that mean the standard is dying a fast and agonising death or you are just an optimist.

  3. infused 3
    19 August 2014 at 10:06 am

    Were those his words?

    • Enough is Enough 3.1
      19 August 2014 at 12:33 pm

      Yes – He is vile. Just look at all his sexist comments on his blog. Imagine what his emails are like

    • MrSmith 3.2
      19 August 2014 at 12:43 pm

      They’re somebody’s words, and know-one has been denying that, because they don’t want the emails released. Hager has chosen not to expose them for obvious reasons, he wants to change the system without destroying peoples lives, I believe. Unlike Slater who brags about three people he has personally destroyed.

    • Tracey 3.3
      19 August 2014 at 1:29 pm

      read the book infused. Slater has used every legitimate reader as dupes. His, and his mates, attitude toward women, in their own words, is appalling.

      If this kind of behaviour was going on with teenagers, we would be bloody worried. We would be using words like bully, violent, masochistic, psychopathic, dangerous and people would be screaming intervention. But these are adults, and in some cases parents.

      • MrSmith 3.3.1
        19 August 2014 at 4:08 pm

        A further couple of points, if say some of the people mentioned in the book decide to sue, then they are open to discovery and so that’s why the Nats are running with the lines they are, well at-least until they can get the skeletons buried.

        The National party is about to start cannibalizing it-self my friends and like Slater said he will be still around afterwards, he knows were the skeleton are buried.

  4. Enough is Enough 4
    19 August 2014 at 10:26 am

    In my opinion he is a filthy person with filthy morals and if we can get hold of his emails it will show much the same as what we have seen in blubber boys.

    The first thing we should do when we regain power is regulate those hate sites.

    • pollywog 4.1
      19 August 2014 at 11:12 am

      Up against the virtual wall eh comrade ?

      Regulators..mount up!!!

      zzzz…

    • grumpystilskin 4.2
      19 August 2014 at 11:57 am

      “The first thing we should do when we regain power is regulate those hate sites.”
      How?
      We live in a (sort of) democracy so he has the right to write what he wants, I choose not to read it. Simple really.
      Was it Voltaire that said something along the lines of ” I don’t agree with what you have to say but will defend to my death your right to say it.”
      That pretty much sums up my feelings on the man and btw, his life must be hell right now, you reap what you sow..

      • ghostwhowalksnz 4.2.1
        19 August 2014 at 12:29 pm

        Farrar started out in the National party as part of their dirty tricks operations. Ostensibly it was ‘opposition research’ but as young , silly and full of grog they pushed it too far. He has admitted to getting arrested during some political stunt. Michael Laws was part of that clique in Wellington too

        • Clarence 4.2.1.1
          19 August 2014 at 4:45 pm

          Read Laws’ book “The Demon Profession” for his insight on beating the system to get into office as a rank outsider.

    • TheContrarian 4.3
      19 August 2014 at 12:29 pm

      “The first thing we should do when we regain power is regulate those hate sites.”

      Like grumpystilskin sez.

      • Enough is Enough 4.3.1
        19 August 2014 at 12:33 pm

        Not at all. The main stream media is regulated and if any of them went on like Farrar’s hate blog they would be closed down or reprimanded.

        Regulation does not mean silencing. It means setting standards which are expected in a decent society.

        The right has got away with this hate campaign for too long.

        • TheContrarian 4.3.1.1
          19 August 2014 at 12:37 pm

          The internet can’t and shouldn’t be regulated.

          • Te Reo Putake 4.3.1.1.1
            19 August 2014 at 1:06 pm

            You’re not Chinese then, contrarian?

            • TheContrarian 4.3.1.1.1.1
              19 August 2014 at 1:14 pm

              No I’m not but the Chinese have a lot of trouble regulating it and they shouldn’t try either

              • ghostwhowalksnz …
                19 August 2014 at 2:07 pm

                Not so, they are very very sucessful.
                Lots of things they dont want to be common knowlege have dissapeared from the web in Chinese language. Recent western stories about huge wealth of princelings are an example

                • TheContrarian …
                  19 August 2014 at 2:16 pm

                  Yes but there are still ways around it – I don’t think country can truly regulate the internet and the ones that try, like China, are always fighting an ongoing battle against hackers et al.

                  • felix …
                    19 August 2014 at 7:29 pm

                    Just to be clear, are you saying there should be no regulation of the media at all?

                    Or just online media?

                    It would be a bit weird if, for example, the Herald had standards to adhere to in print but could publish absolutely anything on herald.co.nz

  5. politikiwi 5
    19 August 2014 at 12:33 pm

    I’m loving the right-wing trolls going all out after comments about the death of Kiwiblog while maintaining stony silence over the Dear Leader’s complicity in the corrupt and dirty practices of the likes of Slater and WhaleOil.

    Come on, guys – aren’t you at least decent human beings who can see that the clearly orchestrated smear campaigns are an example of having absolutely no moral compass?

    How can anyone still support FJK and his mates?

    I saw Chris Bishop – whom I went to school with – hanging on to his Dear Leader’s every word yesterday while Key spun and deflected and did his best not to avoid any sort of accountability.

    Chris, if you had any self-respect mate, you’d be distancing yourself from these people, not trying to suck up to them.

  6. RRM 6
    19 August 2014 at 12:46 pm

    Hi, anonymous The Standard Commentator.

    Amid all this talk of “dirty politics”… would you care to disclose which Labour Party member / Civil Servant you are?

    LOL – just kidding – I know you won’t.

    Please, tell us more about “dirty politics”.

    [Stephanie: moderator late to the party, but per the Gosman ruling, take two weeks off.]

    • David 6.1
      19 August 2014 at 1:02 pm

      What nonsense are you on about? You far right wing conspiracy theorist.

    • Tracey 6.2
      19 August 2014 at 1:34 pm

      as opposed to when carrick graham wrote a post attacking people and he was paid but Slater published it as written by cameron slater, you mean that kind of disclosure?

      • RRM 6.2.1
        19 August 2014 at 1:38 pm

        This is an anonymous thread attacking David Farrar, not Whale Oil.

        • McFlock 6.2.1.1
          19 August 2014 at 1:41 pm

          It’s been special knowing you, RRM.

        • Tracey 6.2.1.2
          19 August 2014 at 1:43 pm

          it is hard to follow your morality. Is it bad to be anonymous but good to name yourself but actually be posting for someone else for money and duping your readership about whose words they are?

  7. Sable 7
    19 August 2014 at 12:49 pm

    Yuck. That’s all I can say…yuck….

  8. rhinocrates 8
    19 August 2014 at 1:30 pm

    ‘Rape’ is an inflammatory word, but it’s a beacon that’s already been lit can’t be hidden.

    I can see that Nicky Hager is being very careful not to name names, knowing the severity of the potential criminal charges that could arise. Unless I’m misreading this, Farrar’s use of alcohol to make young women (has he checked their ages?) sexually compliant by stupefying them makes Farrar himself a potential suspect in a conspiracy to commit rape.

    A couple of questions for the Penguin: what are the ages of the young women at your “Princess Parties”? Since you know that sexual predators were conspiring to get these women drunk with the aim of having non-consensual sex, i.e., to rape them, why did you not shut down your sickeningly-euphemised “Princess Parties” and alert the police to their declared intentions?

    Slater has been going around sniffing panties and Farrar has pretended to be Mr Clean and a victim of evil hackers, but it certainly looks like, based on the evidence which has not been disputed in content, that Farrar’s idea of “fomenting merry mischief” includes rape.

    There is certainly no evidence that Farrar is a rapist himself, but based on this evidence, he has been knowingly facilitating intending rapists.

    I think that the pretence that there’s any moral distance between Slater and Farrar or that Farrar is somehow a better grade of slime, perhaps with a less chunky consistency. They are the same in essence.

    We can guarantee of course that the police will do absolutely nothing.

    OK, I’ve been repeating that word a lot, but it’s one that can’t be ignored, euphemised or swept under the (sticky) carpet.

    • Tracey 8.1
      19 August 2014 at 1:37 pm

      I read it as being about farrars party not that the conversation involved him.

      • rhinocrates 8.1.1
        19 August 2014 at 1:47 pm

        If he can prove that, in a just world where connections don’t matter, that would be the one thing keeping him out of jail.

        Now that he does know, what does he think of his guests and will he invite them to any more of these parties, knowing their intentions and will be ensure every one of these women is over the legal drinking age?

        • Tracey 8.1.1.1
          19 August 2014 at 1:56 pm

          Even if of a legal age, his guests claim to intend deliberately getting them drunkto make them pliable for sex. Hosts have some responsibility, yes?

          Is it true david farrar went to a party as jimmy saville, after he was re ealled as a child abuser? I read it somewherebut dont know if it is factual or not.

          • rhinocrates 8.1.1.1.1
            19 August 2014 at 2:13 pm

            That rumour’s been circulating Wellington for a long time, but I can’t substantiate it. I can however imagine him pondering a costume for the next one… Rolf Harris or Cliff Richard?

          • TheContrarian 8.1.1.1.2
            19 August 2014 at 3:31 pm

            Labeling Farrar as a sex abuser (or a facilitator of sex abusers) is pretty fucking low. Not much better than the way Slater likes to smear people.

            • Tracey 8.1.1.1.2.1
              19 August 2014 at 3:45 pm

              which part of 8.1 didnt you understand TC

              • TheContrarian …
                19 August 2014 at 3:50 pm

                Sorry – it wasn’t directed at you but at rhinocrates

                • Tracey …
                  19 August 2014 at 3:57 pm

                  Cool. Was trying to say the opposite so was surprised

                • rhinocrates …
                  19 August 2014 at 5:58 pm

                  I wasn’t labelling Farrar as a sex abuser, I was commenting on his frequent “jokes” that suggest sexual abuse and child murder are funny. There was a thread devoted to some of his more disgusting tweets and choice of party costume on The Standard a while back. http://thestandard.org.nz/sick-3/

                  • TheContrarian …
                    19 August 2014 at 6:45 pm

                    Whatever buddy. Comments like the below are fucking atrocious. They all came from you. You directly assert Farrar is not only complicit in rape but also underage child abuse. You are no better than Slater, shitbag.

                    “Unless I’m misreading this, Farrar’s use of alcohol to make young women (has he checked their ages?) sexually compliant by stupefying them makes Farrar himself a potential suspect in a conspiracy to commit rape.”

                    “what are the ages of the young women at your “Princess Parties”? Since you know that sexual predators were conspiring to get these women drunk with the aim of having non-consensual sex, i.e., to rape them, why did you not shut down your sickeningly-euphemised “Princess Parties” and alert the police to their declared intentions?”

                    “but it certainly looks like, based on the evidence which has not been disputed in content, that Farrar’s idea of “fomenting merry mischief” includes rape.”

                    “There is certainly no evidence that Farrar is a rapist himself, but based on this evidence, he has been knowingly facilitating intending rapists.”

                    “Now that he does know, what does he think of his guests and will he invite them to any more of these parties, knowing their intentions and will be ensure every one of these women is over the legal drinking age?”

                  • tricledrown …
                    19 August 2014 at 7:47 pm

                    Cliff Richard hasn’t been charged with any offence yet!
                    1 allegation has been reported police have behaved very badly so far in the investigation so lets be careful!

      • rhinocrates 8.1.2
        19 August 2014 at 2:00 pm

        To add, I think that an alert needs to be sounded: at parties organised by Farrar, it is now known that there are sexual predators prowling with the declared intention of getting young women or girls drunk so that they can rape them. Farrar now knows this. What is he going to do about it? For the safety of his potential female guests, they would be well advised to stay away or to at least have escorts and rides home.

    • NickS 8.2
      19 August 2014 at 2:27 pm

      Fuck, I didn’t even think of that.

      /shudder

  9. Ant 9
    19 August 2014 at 1:38 pm

    More crocodile tears from DPF. Some people will buy it but the sooner people realise that the guy’s actions are almost totally based on political posturing the better.

    He’s gone from his self-admitted bullshit about “hacking and spying” that he was clutching his pearls over through to “quitting politics”, now this…completely insincere.

    From the fact that his first response was to spin, it’s pretty clear that cleanup2k14™ is just another tack in that spin.

  10. redfred 10
    19 August 2014 at 1:51 pm

    It funny how Farrar is claiming innocence, like rolling around in a vat of pig shit and going to a party and exclaiming loudly whats that smell!

    • TheContrarian 10.1
      19 August 2014 at 1:54 pm

      To be fair, even Hager backed off Farrar to a certain extent when questioned, stating he was a ‘bit-part’ in the whole thing.

      • Tracey 10.1.1
        19 August 2014 at 2:00 pm

        and he is not featured much at all in the book BUT he is referred to as in regular contact withSlater.

        If mr farrar is feeling soiled or tainted, will he cut his ties with key et al who seem to be part of this or does his desire to get clean not extend that far?

      • redfred 10.1.2
        19 August 2014 at 2:42 pm

        Fair point, but he knew what was going on, he is complicit, you often see Kiwiblog and Whaleoil working hand in glove cooperation – all part of the same comms strategy.. one a reasonable sounding voice the other feral and shouting, but both pushing the same underlying message.

        • TheContrarian 10.1.2.1
          19 August 2014 at 3:29 pm

          I can only comment as far as what Hager said given I haven’t read the book yet.

        • Tracey 10.1.2.2
          19 August 2014 at 3:49 pm

          And that hand in glove situation is frequently referred to throughout the book, which I have read.

      • Mark Petersen 10.1.3
        19 August 2014 at 4:30 pm

        You have to suspect [Hager] has slung some shit that he knows he cannot substantiate but hopes like hell will stick long enough to sell some books. Interestingly under Labour’s proposed policy Farrar would be presumed guilty and have to prove his innocence. This is pretty low even for [Hager].

        [Stephanie: edited for crimes against spelling “Hager” correctly.]

        • Adele 10.1.3.1
          19 August 2014 at 11:00 pm

          Kiaora Mark,

          Hager doesn’t have to make up or sling any shit. The emails are a way better read.

  11. Tigger 11
    19 August 2014 at 2:49 pm

    The first half of Farrar’s ‘pearl-clutching’ post is practically satire. ‘I’m so deeply wounded that I’ve seriously decided to chuck it in. But I can’t, I’m too important.”

    Love his last line about the parties. “It’s just a smear.” Farrar’s actions may be less reprehensible than Slater’s, but just because mud is less foul than shit it is by no means clean.

  12. kessie 12
    19 August 2014 at 3:13 pm

    That excerpt reads like a deliberate smear, all innuendo and no facts or in other words a complete fabrication.

  13. alwyn 13
    19 August 2014 at 3:24 pm

    If you really believe what you say
    ” Who needs that kind of filth, I don’t.]”
    then why on earth did you post this filth? Could it be that you love wallowing in your own pile of self produced crap? No wonder David Cunliffe is trying to distance himself from the bloggers on his side of politics.

    • Tracey 13.1
      19 August 2014 at 3:47 pm

      Unlike john key

    • Galeandra 13.2
      19 August 2014 at 4:44 pm

      @ Alwyn

      “Could it be that you love wallowing in your own pile of self produced crap? No wonder David Cunliffe is trying to distance himself from the bloggers on his side of politics.”

      Yes, and I’d prefer to keep my distance from you too, Alwyn, but the nastier side of WO & Nact politicking rather concerns me at the moment. Political disillusionment is a consequence of the sort of besmirching that has occurred from the right, though disengagement is welcomed by grand Tory strategists like Lusk In their view the self-interested rw supporter isn’t disillusioned to the extent that the poor, dispossessed or disillusioned social democrat is, and 800 000 non-voters in the last election reflect that sad truth and suit National fine.

      So yes, I’m happy to see that truth at last is out there, happy to see the msm finally wake up and starting to stick it to John Key, happy at last to enjoy a bit of schedenfreude. It’s been a long time coming..

  14. Tom Jackson 14
    19 August 2014 at 3:28 pm

    Everyone knows why a toad would go to a Princess Party.

    • Chooky 14.1
      19 August 2014 at 5:01 pm

      +100 Tom Jackson

      I dont want to get personal …but…Farrar and Slater are very, very UGLY!

      …the only way anyone…especially someone young and beautiful…. would do anything at ALL with them would be if they were very , very, very drunk….in fact comatose…and that is illegal because they are not conscious and can not give consent.

      • Murray Olsen 14.1.1
        20 August 2014 at 4:33 am

        We should not criticise them for their vile, disgusting, and repulsive appearances. I have no idea how sexual attraction arises in a world with such hideous looking people, but Blubber Boy has managed to be unfaithful to his wife, although this is a personal matter and we will not think less of him for it. I doubt if Farrar has managed to be unfaithful to his hand without partaking in a commercial transaction, but again, that is not what he should be attacked for.

        However, it is quite interesting that their interior and exterior aesthetics are so similar.

  15. Sanctuary 15
    19 August 2014 at 4:06 pm

    I see Farrar is on Jim Mora’s panel. I kid you not. What does a right winger have to do to get banned on that station?

  16. Paul 16
    19 August 2014 at 4:48 pm

    Bet you Mora completely fails to challenge him on Dirty Politics.

  17. Dont worry. Be happy 17
    19 August 2014 at 5:37 pm

    Who on earth would listen to Jim Mora? Like the dullest dinner party you’vs ever had to endure! Boring! Back to the Dog Shows Jim….

    • Chooky 17.1
      19 August 2014 at 6:10 pm

      i try to avoid him…but i dont like commercial stations…hate the ads and the raucous opinionated noise …also some hosts are worse than Mora eg Sean Plunket

      • ianmac 17.1.1
        19 August 2014 at 8:09 pm

        Yesterday I sent an email to Jim to protest that he failed to get those who say that the Left blogs are nasty, should name the bloggers who transgress. (Not the commentators.).

        Today he started to ask my question to Farrar but Farrar just rolled over him and just talked his spin till they ran out of time.
        Tonight I sent another email to Jim again protesting that he had an obligation to challenge “them” to front up.
        Not expecting much though.

  18. Chooky 18
    19 August 2014 at 5:59 pm

    With Farrar’s ‘Princess Parties’…it is not hard to see why John Key’s Nactional is losing the youth vote

    http://www.electionresults.co.nz/national-loses-youth-gains-middle-aged

  19. Chooky 19
    19 August 2014 at 6:45 pm

    Who would go to a Farrar Nact ‘Princess Party’ ?!…….. when you can go to a Dotcom Mana/Internet Party?!

    …no contest…the first is kitsch and ugly ….the second is COOL!

  20. felix 20
    19 August 2014 at 7:37 pm

    Excuse my ignorance, but wtf is a “princess party”?

  21. Charliebrown 21
    19 August 2014 at 11:16 pm

    I read and comment on Kiwiblog almost daily. I enjoy reading what DPF says, even though I think the National party is vile. One thing I do find with him is he is open about his afilliations, beliefs and will criticize the National party if he doesn’t agree with them and will praise the labour or green) party when they do something he likes.

    I also have noticed he always criticizes policies and rarely attacks the person, the only time I think he goes overboard is with regards to Kim Dot Com, but even then he doesn’t do it personally – he just seems to have an obsession with him as does nearly every National party supporter, and he just enthusiastically jumps at every opportunity he has to ridicule his stance.

    This is what he had to say about David Cunliffe in one of his blogs after he was elected leader of the labour party: “I worked a bit with Cunliffe when he was ICT/Comms Minister and found him excellent to work with, and he achieved a lot of good stuff. ”

    He also was quick to criticize Jonathan Coleman’s attitude against Darren Hughes before the hole mess around his resignation occurred: “I’m disappointed the Minister responded in the fashion in which he did. Frankly he should be able to handle what was a pretty gentle hassle.”. I even got demerit points making a tame joke regarding Hughes sexuality.

    I think the hacking of his emails and infiltration of his business is horrible, and I think we would all be hard pressed to find a politician that has met him that wouldn’t feel that way.

    I will say that I am losing no sleep around Whaleoil getting hacked though as his blog is pretty vengeful and nasty. In some ways it reminds me of this blog, vindictive, spiteful and lacking in well-thought arguments.

  22. Disgusted 22
    20 August 2014 at 8:45 am

    You know guys, your blog and comments are not just dirty, they are outright filthy. One really needs to wash one’s hands carefully after touching it.

    Are you surprised your party(-ies) poll so low? One reason is this blog (a typical Leftie stuff too). Don’t you realise that people interested in politics can read both blogs, compare, shrug their shoulders and leave you to your own filth.

    Enjoy your plummeting ratings. Clearly there’s more plummeting to come.

  23. Chooky 23
    20 August 2014 at 1:22 pm

    ‘Dear Toby Manhire. Bad call on backing Farrar’

    By Martyn Bradbury / August 20, 2014

    “I say this as someone who regards Toby Manhire as one of the smartest journalists/commentators/columnists this country has…

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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    6 days ago

  • Be Honest.
    Let’s begin today by thinking about job interviews.During my career in Software Development I must have interviewed hundreds of people, hired at least a hundred, but few stick in the memory.I remember one guy who was so laid back he was practically horizontal, leaning back in his chair until his ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    6 days ago

  • Geoffrey Miller: New Zealand’s foreign policy resets on AUKUS, Gaza and Ukraine
    New Zealand’s international relations are under new management. And Winston Peters, the new foreign minister, is already setting a change agenda. As expected, this includes a more pro-US positioning when it comes to the Pacific – where Peters will be picking up where he left off. Peters sought to align ...
    Democracy ProjectBy Geoffrey Miller
    6 days ago

  • Auckland rail tunnel the world’s most expensive
    Auckland’s city rail link is the most expensive rail project in the world per km, and the CRL boss has described the cost of infrastructure construction in Aotearoa as a crisis. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The 3.5 km City Rail Link (CRL) tunnel under Auckland’s CBD has cost ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    6 days ago

  • First big test coming
    The first big test of the new Government’s approach to Treaty matters is likely to be seen in the return of the Resource Management Act. RMA Minister Chris Bishop has confirmed that he intends to introduce legislation to repeal Labour’s recently passed Natural and Built Environments Act and its ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    6 days ago

  • The Song of Saqua: Volume III
    Time to revisit something I haven’t covered in a while: the D&D campaign, with Saqua the aquatic half-vampire. Last seen in July: https://phuulishfellow.wordpress.com/2023/07/27/the-song-of-saqua-volume-ii/ The delay is understandable, once one realises that the interim saw our DM come down with a life-threatening medical situation. They have since survived to make ...
    A Phuulish FellowBy strda221
    6 days ago

  • Chris Bishop: Smokin’
    Yes. Correct. It was an election result. And now we are the elected government. ...
    My ThinksBy boonman
    1 week ago

  • 2023 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #48
    A chronological listing of news and opinion articles posted on the Skeptical Science  Facebook Page during the past week: Sun, Nov 26, 2023 thru Dec 2, 2023. Story of the Week CO2 readings from Mauna Loa show failure to combat climate change Daily atmospheric carbon dioxide data from Hawaiian volcano more ...
    Skeptical Science
    1 week ago

  • Affirmative Action.
    Affirmative Action was a key theme at this election, although I don’t recall anyone using those particular words during the campaign.They’re positive words, and the way the topic was talked about was anything but. It certainly wasn’t a campaign of saying that Affirmative Action was a good thing, but that, ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    1 week ago

  • 100 days of something
    It was at the end of the Foxton straights, at the end of 1978, at 100km/h, that someone tried to grab me from behind on my Yamaha.They seemed to be yanking my backpack. My first thought was outrage. My second was: but how? Where have they come from? And my ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    1 week ago

  • Look who’s stepped up to champion Winston
    There’s no news to be gleaned from the government’s official website today  – it contains nothing more than the message about the site being under maintenance. The time this maintenance job is taking and the costs being incurred have us musing on the government’s commitment to an assault on inflation. ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    1 week ago

  • What's The Story?
    Don’t you sometimes wish they’d just tell the truth? No matter how abhorrent or ugly, just straight up tell us the truth?C’mon guys, what you’re doing is bad enough anyway, pretending you’re not is only adding insult to injury.Instead of all this bollocks about the Smokefree changes being to do ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    1 week ago

  • The longest of weeks
    Hello! Here comes the Saturday edition of More Than A Feilding, catching you up on the past week’s editions.Friday Under New Management Week in review, quiz style1. Which of these best describes Aotearoa?a. Progressive nation, proud of its egalitarian spirit and belief in a fair go b. Best little country on the planet c. ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    1 week ago

  • Suggested sessions of EGU24 to submit abstracts to
    Like earlier this year, members from our team will be involved with next year's General Assembly of the European Geosciences Union (EGU). The conference will take place on premise in Vienna as well as online from April 14 to 19, 2024. The session catalog has been available since November 1 ...
    Skeptical Science
    1 week ago

  • Ministers visit Hawke’s Bay to grasp recovery needs
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon joined Cyclone Recovery Minister Mark Mitchell and Transport and Local Government Minister Simeon Brown, to meet leaders of cyclone and flood-affected regions in the Hawke’s Bay. The visit reinforced the coalition Government’s commitment to support the region and better understand its ongoing requirements, Mr Mitchell says.  ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • New Zealand condemns malicious cyber activity
    New Zealand has joined the UK and other partners in condemning malicious cyber activity conducted by the Russian Government, Minister Responsible for the Government Communications Security Bureau Judith Collins says. The statement follows the UK’s attribution today of malicious cyber activity impacting its domestic democratic institutions and processes, as well ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Disestablishment of Te Pūkenga begins
    The Government has begun the process of disestablishing Te Pūkenga as part of its 100-day plan, Minister for Tertiary Education and Skills Penny Simmonds says.  “I have started putting that plan into action and have met with the chair and chief Executive of Te Pūkenga to advise them of my ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • Climate Change Minister to attend COP28 in Dubai
    Climate Change Minister Simon Watts will be leaving for Dubai today to attend COP28, the 28th annual UN climate summit, this week. Simon Watts says he will push for accelerated action towards the goals of the Paris Agreement, deliver New Zealand’s national statement and connect with partner countries, private sector leaders ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • New Zealand to host 2024 Pacific defence meeting
    Defence Minister Judith Collins yesterday announced New Zealand will host next year’s South Pacific Defence Ministers’ Meeting (SPDMM). “Having just returned from this year’s meeting in Nouméa, I witnessed first-hand the value of meeting with my Pacific counterparts to discuss regional security and defence matters. I welcome the opportunity to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • Study shows need to remove distractions in class
    The Government is committed to lifting school achievement in the basics and that starts with removing distractions so young people can focus on their learning, Education Minister Erica Stanford says.   The 2022 PISA results released this week found that Kiwi kids ranked 5th in the world for being distracted ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • Minister sets expectations of Commissioner
    Today I met with Police Commissioner Andrew Coster to set out my expectations, which he has agreed to, says Police Minister Mark Mitchell. Under section 16(1) of the Policing Act 2008, the Minister can expect the Police Commissioner to deliver on the Government’s direction and priorities, as now outlined in ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • New Zealand needs a strong and stable ETS
    New Zealand needs a strong and stable Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS) that is well placed for the future, after emission units failed to sell for the fourth and final auction of the year, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says.  At today’s auction, 15 million New Zealand units (NZUs) – each ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • PISA results show urgent need to teach the basics
    With 2022 PISA results showing a decline in achievement, Education Minister Erica Stanford is confident that the Coalition Government’s 100-day plan for education will improve outcomes for Kiwi kids.  The 2022 PISA results show a significant decline in the performance of 15-year-old students in maths compared to 2018 and confirms ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago

  • Collins leaves for Pacific defence meeting
    Defence Minister Judith Collins today departed for New Caledonia to attend the 8th annual South Pacific Defence Ministers’ meeting (SPDMM). “This meeting is an excellent opportunity to meet face-to-face with my Pacific counterparts to discuss regional security matters and to demonstrate our ongoing commitment to the Pacific,” Judith Collins says. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago

  • Working for Families gets cost of living boost
    Putting more money in the pockets of hard-working families is a priority of this Coalition Government, starting with an increase to Working for Families, Prime Minister Christopher Luxon says. “We are starting our 100-day plan with a laser focus on bringing down the cost of living, because that is what ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago

  • Post-Cabinet press conference
    Most weeks, following Cabinet, the Prime Minister holds a press conference for members of the Parliamentary Press Gallery. This page contains the transcripts from those press conferences, which are supplied by Hansard to the Office of the Prime Minister. It is important to note that the transcripts have not been edited ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago

  • Lake Onslow pumped hydro scheme scrapped
    The Government has axed the $16 billion Lake Onslow pumped hydro scheme championed by the previous government, Energy Minister Simeon Brown says. “This hugely wasteful project was pouring money down the drain at a time when we need to be reining in spending and focussing on rebuilding the economy and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago

  • NZ welcomes further pause in fighting in Gaza
    New Zealand welcomes the further one-day extension of the pause in fighting, which will allow the delivery of more urgently-needed humanitarian aid into Gaza and the release of more hostages, Foreign Minister Winston Peters said. “The human cost of the conflict is horrific, and New Zealand wants to see the violence ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago

  • Condolences on passing of Henry Kissinger
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters today expressed on behalf of the New Zealand Government his condolences to the family of former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, who has passed away at the age of 100 at his home in Connecticut. “While opinions on his legacy are varied, Secretary Kissinger was ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago

  • Backing our kids to learn the basics
    Every child deserves a world-leading education, and the Coalition Government is making that a priority as part of its 100-day plan. Education Minister Erica Stanford says that will start with banning cellphone use at school and ensuring all primary students spend one hour on reading, writing, and maths each day. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago

  • US Business Summit Speech – Regional stability through trade
    I would like to begin by echoing the Prime Minister’s thanks to the organisers of this Summit, Fran O’Sullivan and the Auckland Business Chamber.  I want to also acknowledge the many leading exporters, sector representatives, diplomats, and other leaders we have joining us in the room. In particular, I would like ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago

  • Keynote Address to the United States Business Summit, Auckland
    Good morning. Thank you, Rosemary, for your warm introduction, and to Fran and Simon for this opportunity to make some brief comments about New Zealand’s relationship with the United States.  This is also a chance to acknowledge my colleague, Minister for Trade Todd McClay, Ambassador Tom Udall, Secretary of Foreign ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago

  • India New Zealand Business Council Speech, India as a Strategic Priority
    Good morning, tēnā koutou and namaskar. Many thanks, Michael, for your warm welcome. I would like to acknowledge the work of the India New Zealand Business Council in facilitating today’s event and for the Council’s broader work in supporting a coordinated approach for lifting New Zealand-India relations. I want to also ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago

  • Coalition Government unveils 100-day plan
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has laid out the Coalition Government’s plan for its first 100 days from today. “The last few years have been incredibly tough for so many New Zealanders. People have put their trust in National, ACT and NZ First to steer them towards a better, more prosperous ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago

  • New Zealand welcomes European Parliament vote on the NZ-EU Free Trade Agreement
    A significant milestone in ratifying the NZ-EU Free Trade Agreement (FTA) was reached last night, with 524 of the 705 member European Parliament voting in favour to approve the agreement. “I’m delighted to hear of the successful vote to approve the NZ-EU FTA in the European Parliament overnight. This is ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago

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