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Step right up to the mike…
(sorry about our patchy record getting these up since r0b took a break. he was our rock)
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A comparison of policy between Labor and the Coalition in Australia. Text NSFW.
Looks like Obama may not get his way in Syria. About time someone stood up to the bully.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/04/obama-putin-syria-g20-summit
Babylon 5 Splice
a little Iran v US /Israel
a pinch of Sunni / Shia sectarianism
a dash of the Syrian state v “rebels”
a region spread between the Saudis and Iran
with an influence of Russian and US geopolitics.
Heh heh…I read this to the tune of Mambo No. 5. Try it!
TV3’s Rachel Morton says Aussie media is very biased in support of Abbott, but criticising every Rudd’s faux pas…sounds familiar?
The Australian media are probably the most dishonest I have ever experienced (although I imagine the US is worse again). They make the two faced journo liars we have here look positively saintly. That’s the problem with having a media oligopoly run by rich neo liberals.
“..That’s the problem with having a media oligopoly run by rich neo liberals…”
um..!..isn’t that what we also have here..?..
..the only differences being in shading/subtleties/cultures..?
phillip ure..
I see today they have a poll with who readers are going to vote for on the age and smh. Its sitting on 41 percent labour and 34 liberal at present. Theres 30k votes so maybe an indication that it’ll be a lot closer than all Australia’s media are suggesting.
I certainly hope so anyway.
This from Roy Morgan @ Twitter:
Roy Morgan @roymorganonline 22h
The seat of Warringah, held by @TonyAbbottMHR, leads the nation on unhealthy alcohol consumption http://ow.ly/ozJ4g #ausvotes
“um..!..isn’t that what we also have here..?..”
The difference is one of degree. Imagine a newspaper that was the collected scribblings of Michael Laws, Rodney Hide, Garth McVicar, and John Ansell, but without labelling any of it as opinion. That would be a Murdoch paper.
that would be Mein Kampf (ok, just a little hyperbole). 🙂
Lolz, wicked!!!…
*sigh* This may be the default setting in good ol’ Nu Zild; “At least it isn’t as bad as the US.”
Meanwhile back home our so called leader is once again busy kissing Obama on the ass:
http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/18802253/john-keys-focus-shifts-to-syria/
Labour compromised its soul when Robertson/King/Shearer used TV3 to knife Cunliffe at the Ellerslie Conference in 2012.
Now they feel free to play games with the Party, says John Drinnan in the Herald
“Mediaworks and TV3 are starting to sound like the Jones channel in covering the Labour leadership campaign.
But I am betting it is about ratings and advertising dollars rather than a political bias.”
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11120290
Shane Jones, he’s the best candidate by far and would probably beat John Key at the next election.
That little proposition i am happy to say will never be tested in reality, keep tho dreaming that the right will be having any real say in who the next leader of the Labour Party is…
Which is why National will win the next election easily.
Great for the blue voter, not so good for the red/green voter.
Yes, you’re a shoo-in. The John Banks trial won’t focus media attention on cups of tea, the referendum won’t stir up anti-Key sentiment, the Sky City deal won’t continue to throw up dead rats, the privileges committee will find that the PM’s office must be bcc-ed into all emails by law.
The Labour party won’t feel rejuvenated by the party-wide leadership election. No-one will door-knock or stuff letter-boxes for them.
None of these things will come to pass. You’ll see.
Only one flaw in your plan.
The lefts candidates are complete crap who only appeal to the beltway.
John Key could be caught rogering a goat and he’d still be a shoe-in.
Yeah, so you have nothing to worry about.
Now off you fuck and go about your day, like someone safe in the knowledge they were right would do.
See 19.0.0
The foibles of the internet and the coding and dreams at nite LPrent has to deal with.
Shit – how did THAT happen!
Does Slippery ‘roger’ goats, nice of you to share such informed commentary about your leader with us all…
Zzzzzzzzz
Would it not depend on what goats he rogers. Nanny Goat or Billy Goat
Perhaps Slippery would like to display His non-gender bias by rogering both Nanny and Billy…
Sleep tight BM. Sweet dreams.
So the most lame NAct tr0ll on ts advises that the Labour party should go with Shane Jones eh? Gee wizzle I guess we should listen… zzzzzzzzz
Is this the Red/Green voter that BM mentioned?
http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/opinion/editorials/9131979/Time-to-talk-of-serious-things
– I’m still of the view JC should take over but good on English, hes finally getting the kudos hes deserves for his performance
Yes, how can Bill from Dipton perform His ‘village idiot’ act with such diligence month after month, many could be forgiven to suggest He was born into such a role…
Hardly surprising. They’re all electoral poison, but at least English can point to his experience and recognition.
Yeah he didn’t do so well last time…best to keep him as deputy
English’s 21% makes Goff’s 27% look a bit better, doesn’t it?
I reckon , Joyce would smash Englishs’ record.
Well a loss is still a loss but yes Goff didn’t lose as quite as badly as English
Ironically, Bill English’s loss gave air to Peter Dunne, and Dunne is the one keeping this government in power today.
Does raising the minimum wage lead to higher unemployment, not according to this which tracks that very question through multi-decades of data,
http://www.aneconomicsense.com/…/the-impact-of-increasing-the-minimum-wage-o...
Nice find Bad12 🙂
Must be sad for Mr English when facts get in his way! Well done bad 12.
i dont think that ever stopped english before
Nor National.
chrs 4 that bad..i’ve whoar-ed it..
phillip ure..
There’s a lot more links to the evidence surrounding the fallacy that raising the minimum wage causes rising unemployment available and i will put one up daily while there is a supply of them,
i clicked on a comment yesterday which took me straight to Farrar’s rubbish dump with the usual whine of ”why not raise the minimum to $30 then”, and, ”a living wage will destroy massive amounts of jobs” bulls**t,
At worst, when the minimum wage is raised it leads to a ‘knee-jerk’ from some employers and there are some job losses, however, within the year such job losses are no longer evident, the obvious reason being that employers realizing that there is more money in the economy take on more staff in an effort to secure a slice of this,
”16-17 year olds unemployment initially increased by 1.4-2.6%, BUT, that negative impact was not evident a year later in 2010”,
http://www.blog.greens.org.nz/…/its-official–abolishing-youth-rates-did-not-increase...
bad12
Did you catch up on the comment I put up relating to yours about a psychologist. This is the link to my comment which may have more information on your point?
http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-5092013/#comment-691678
Lolz, yes i did read the comment, tho as Fraser McDonald nor Kim Workman were the ‘Psychologist’ i was alluding to i failed to formulate a reply,
Next time we here at the Standard get round to discussing alternatives to imprisonment i will put a bit more effort into digging out the actual name of the person i was seeking’s name…
That would be good bad12. It is a subject worth getting into.
fascinating new telly program from america called ‘orange is the new black’ set in a womens prison, the first episode didnt interestest me but i kept seeing hype up for it so i checked out a few more episodes & wow, it is really incredible, its a comedy but jeez it touches some real raw nerves & shows up the system in all its hypocritical glory. one the the black inmates is trying to write a letter to the parole board ‘i didnt mean to smack the bitch’…its hilarious but at the same time it can bring a tear to your eye coz the ppl are so screwed up & tragic & their lives are just so sad. its a good show if your like your comedy very dark.
I have been watching that show, and the Aussie show Wentworth, also set in a women’s prison and showing up some issues re-the prison system and society.
Orange is the New Black does have some funny moments. When the newbie inmate is getting advice from different people about the rules and systems in prison, she says to one of the women, “That wasn’t in anything I read about prison”. The woman replied: ‘You studied to come to prison?”
Primarily both shows are “entertainment”, though, and have some elements of voyeurism.
dramedy
@ bad12 – so does this mean that my suspicions of The Fatuous Neil Miller on Mora Bora Afternoons was talking through the hole in his arse re 9000 lost youth jobs as a direct consequence ? Just a liar or a dunce or what ? Hmmm……….they’re not mutually exclusive of course.
http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-2092013/#comment-690272
Yes i pick lying dunce as well…
Casualization
John Kerry the secretary of state currently trying to start WWIII is like ex-president Bush a member of skull and bones so it should come as no surprise that he is of the same warmongering ilk. Here is a little video showing how that looks as he tries to convince some of the US Senators of the need to invade yet another sovereign state in order to satisfy his masters greedy needs.
Kerry has been priming those senators, with the generals ready to light the fuse.
A Vote Auckland website is up, with a guide to the elections and a searchable list of candidates.
Edit: oh. whoops! the “search candidates” and “how to vote” links don’t work properly.
Edit 2: Found another way to bring up Whau Board candidates. I see there is a Mana movement candidate.
Quote from Alice – Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland.
Alice: It was much pleasanter at home, when one wasn’t always growing larger and smaller, and being ordered about by mice and rabbits.
Today’s news – What’s up?
Fri 6/9 news Black grass imported into NZ – it is a prohibited import species!! 20 to 30 kg of seeds spilled from a load of tonnes presumably of a bulk lot of seeds. Who was in charge of this abhorrence? Heads should be rolling, said the Red Queen.
Fonterra placing blame on Agresearch has been rebutted. Agresearch advised of the suspicion of a presence of a baddie bug and advised further testing. It was – might be, but not able to state definitely.
What about Abbott Oz party releasing its financial planning late in the day and last minute before elections. Should informatkon be out within two weeks of naming of election date? What is our rule on this?
Norway rats. Could we try to compete in innovation and intelligence with Norway and their rats idea. They have more sensitive noses than dogs! Are being trained to sniff out all sorts of things. I think I’ve heard of bees being used for this. Don’t know if that is a reliable memory but anyway bees shouldn’t be used for such jobs, they are needed for their regular work.
Snap thoughts on headlines –
NZ Government deeply concerned about something today!
Crown Fibre Holdings at present low in fibre – needs to eat more muesli.
NZ government low in fibre – needs to stop running down the country’s enterprise capability in favour of sucking up to Australia and award contracts to NZ. If any finance required is refused by Australian-owned banks, then we will create our own.resources.
The Auckland Philharmonia is among the first in what will be a growing practice of trying to mine funds that should be available for all NZ to instead be directed to advantage Auckland.
Dotcom resigns from Mega and will focus on fighting extradition and building a political party.
F..ing fr..ing waste is overwhelming agreed land sites in Taranaki – going to be our Fukushima? Which resulted from believing big talkers knew and cared about what they were doing and could be trusted.
Street comments from South Auckland shows support for Robertson as politician to the fore – but which Robertson. There is confusion between Grant Robertson and Ross Robertson, present MP for Manukau East.
(From The Daily Blog comment by John Minto 9/6/2013)
On the other hand the unspectacular Ross Robertson, Labour MP for Manukau East, will leave parliament as quietly as he has done his 27 years of parliamentary service. By this I mean he has served parliament rather than his electorate….
Throughout his time as MP his electorate has suffered through unprecedented attacks on New Zealand’s lowest income families. Robertson has been a silent witness to such things as high unemployment, emerging health crises and degraded housing while the parasites on poverty – unregulated loan sharks, fast food joints, pokies and booze shops – have preyed on the most vulnerable. Has Robertson done anything about any of these things? If he has there’s no public record of it. In reality he has coasted through the years without leaving a ripple.
See more at: http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2013/06/09/peter-dunne-and-ross-robertson-the-smug-and-the-useless/#sthash.EYudmY6Z.dpuf
– See more at: http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2013/06/09/peter-dunne-and-ross-robertson-the-smug-and-the-useless/#sthash.EYudmY6Z.dpuf
In praise of John Key’s…hair? http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11120163
Actual quotes from this apparently not satirical piece:
“Helen Clark’s hair was threadbare. There wasn’t much happening up there, but at least its colour corresponded with her party’s colours.”
“The Right Honourable John Key has a right honourable papal hairdo. As in the hair he has is shaped like the cap the Pope wears.”
Clark is ‘threadbare’ but Key’s is ‘papal’ (a strange compliment but a compliment nonetheless. Key is clearly ‘threadbare’ (view shots of him in more extreme locations and his large bald patch is self-evident) along with the fact that he more than likely is colouring his hair somehow, despite claims to the contrary his colour pattern is suspiciously artificial.
Also, as one comment already points out, no mention of Peter Dunne, who practically is just a haircut.
i was always under the impression that Slippery the Prime Minister covered His bald spot by plucking the soft hairs from within the anal crevice of a blind donkey called Brucie,
There’s either hair coloring being used on that one’s head or the dip-s**t is dipping it in it…
“i was always under the impression that Slippery the Prime Minister covered His bald spot by plucking the soft hairs from within the anal crevice of a blind donkey called Brucie,”
I strongly urge Brucie to seek the advice, support and representation of his Union Delegate on this matter.
his goat called Brucie wasn’t it ?
According to BM above, Slippery would be too busy rogering the goat, perhaps He can multi-task…
and the msm wonder why people arn’t buying newspapers anymore
i think youve got something we can all agree with there WS
The reason I prefer blogs to the msm is that at least with blogs they’re mostly upfront about their loyalities lay
There’s that, yeah.
What is PGGWrightson doing having anything to do with bringing infested grain into NZ? How can the bloody pathetic government controls have allowed this? Have we been invaded by malicious secret anarchists determined to destroy our country and denude us of our ability to make our living?
This.
The initial focus will be on working with PGG Wrightson’s existing businesses to satisfy the strong demand in China for high quality grass seed and for dairy livestock sourced from New Zealand, Australia and Uruguay.
https://www.nzx.com/companies/PGW/announcements/216313
The second agreement, with Shandong Province Seeds Group, is focused on research, production and promotion of plant species including corn, forage and vegetable seeds.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/8099611/PGW-expands-China-seed-ventures
The Carina Nebula
Damien O’Connor has said that contaminated product should be stopped at the border and returned. And that is what other countries do which have concerns to protect their own resources against contamination and below standard imports.
But MPI allowed PGG Wrightson to truck the stuff to some seed handling facility. Mates eh! Wouldn’t want to put on mates overbearing controls even pest destruction, that would cost. Light-handed regulation is the name of the game! Feather light, hardly can be felt.
As MPI says about the seed which they apparently are well informed about:
Ministry spokesperson David Yard said the seeds are a low biosecurity risk and not many are likely to germinate because they are immature and most landed on barren ground.
Immature, and wise advice about regulation and extreme caution, has landed on barren ground – true when applied to the Minstry of Primary (first and just about only) Industry.
More unpleasant details. Read and treat like medicine, bad first but perhaps enabling an improving outcome.
Black grass is notorious in Europe where it’s highly resistant to herbicide, spreads rapidly, and reduces the yields of wheat, rapeseed, forage legumes and barley….
Federated Farmers grain and seed chair Ian MacKenzie of Ashburton said farmers are furious that MPI allowed PGG Wrightson’s shipment of imported fescue seeds from Denmark to be driven though their region, when they knew it was contaminated with black grass seed. (on 3 July 2013)…
The ministry has confirmed black-grass seed spilled on State Highway 77 in mid-Canterbury from a PGG Wrightson truck travelling from Ashburton to Methven.
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/rural/220586/farmers-furious-after-bad-grass-seed-spilled
3 July to 6 September. It has taken a long time to surface, the seeds might have surfaced by now! Black seed, white milk powder, what colour disaster next. Fonterra, Government of the supposed farmer’s party, I would suggest farmers stop voting along the bottom of the trough and help get Labour in and make them work for your betterment – you small farmers.
Cracked :
most online encryption.
I suspect it’s more a case of bypassing than cracking. The internet companies will be providing the NSA with back door access. The codes based on the factorisation of products of huge primes are still unbreakable on any reasonable timescale, which is why the US and Australian governments are spending so much on quantum computing research. Despite what some of the proponents say, quantum computing is funded precisely because it has potential intelligence and military uses. I personally don’t think it will ever work in the way the proponents suggest, but it won’t be the first time the military has wasted our money.
Quantum encryption is uncrackable in principle and you can even tell if someone has had a look at it, but as far as I know it’s only used by a smallish number of banks.
well, that was pleasant, yet we can get too much of a good thing, Black Grass seed spread on Canterbury asphalt for example, “She’ll be right” from the Ministries of Primary Industries and Bio-security, we wouldn’t want trade with China to “cease” or ‘dry up now, would we Michael.
Is Hooters trying a reverse psychology method now? This from Twitter in response to Paddy teh Handsome:
Matthew Hooton @MatthewHootonNZ 48m
I know that the candidate @johnkeypm is least afraid of is @DavidCunliffeMP. Wants him as leader
yeah right, Hooters.
Does that mean that Key is scared of all three candidates? Good times!
Yes of course hes scared after all he got soundly beaten by Cullen, Clark, Goff, Campbell and Shearer so hes probably shitting bricks over Cunliffe, Robertson or Jones
Hooten is sounding desperate, he can obviously see the wheels falling off His gravy train after November 2014…
Hooten has enough nuts stored away and many troughs to feed from regardless of the 2014 result.
I think there are results-dependent aspects to some of his contracts. He’s shitting himself.
Proof that Hoots only ever tells the truth when he wants it to be taken as a lie.
I imagine that he thinks that he’s being clever and that we’re gullible – also proof of the maxim that mediocrity knows nothing higher than itself.
I’ve started to wonder if Hooton isn’t so much a troll as a marketer. He doesn’t give a fuck what he says as long as a TV or radio producer can look at it and go “That’s new! That’ll make a great headline/spice up the panel!”, because many of them don’t give a fuck as long as it’ll keep the audience half-engaged.
I despise the way these self important arseholes are all taking to Twitter. Twitter’s the new black is it ? Shouty Boy and Paddy Te Handsome. My God !
Broke is the new Black
…. and as he off-fucks, (fuk fuk fuk fuk waddle waddle waddle ) watch him squeal like a stuffed pig when his grand plan and final solution doesn’t come to pass.
It’s 93 Octane arrogance complete with all the desperado additives BM and his MSM egotist mates think they can get away with – without appearing too obvious. (Not working so far though)
“The left[‘]s candidates are complete crap who only appeal to the beltway.” [beltway – where-ever that ekshly is; prolly Molesworth, Hill St., the resting place of Broadcasting House, and the other, very vulnerable tunneled otherside) …..
whilst the right’s candidates are loved and cherished by all, trusted & concerned for all (including that majority that are now struggling in their 90%edness), perceived as honest and up-frent by all, and in touch with “The New Zealand People”. The ‘right’ are desperately hoping that those “New Zealand people” aree now all so disengaged with poltiks that they don’t give a fcuk.
(btw – watch them start to trot out all that “New Zealand people this”
& the “New Zealand people that” before too long).
Pretty bloody obvious that BM’s been to the Hooten School of Media Manipulation, Self-Promotion and Ego”
The guy’s a frikken charleti
Could be wrong BM … but I’m picking your hopes and esprayshuns aren’t going to pan out that well.
oooooow geee Jum…
Afternoons with the Earth’s nicest man is going to get Rad!
I’ll rely on Morissey B’s interpretation because I fear I won’t be able to listen. I’ll lay down now in anticipation – I just HOPE like HELL sleep doen’t kick in.
Upcomming – “The Panel” with Jerome Corbett and that – umm hoe fella – you know…. the one that doesn’t take shit….. yes….. Joe Bennett – the contributor to the life of Lyttleton.
Anyway … Rad!!!! Jum.
Make sure your production team has all their cardboard coffee cups, their overwhelming expertise in commentary of all matters political – indeed, just in all matters – make sure they’re pumped and ready!.
Meantime I’ll take your’e wine expert’s advice and supp the Thornbury Merlot – except it’ll have to be a grape juice non alco equiv.
Can’t wait MB – don’t let me down
Keep on Truckin’ Tim
Shudd have been at 5.1.1.1 1.1 POSSIBLY, maybe, (even).
It’s shear brilliance that the LPrents have taken this site to the heights it already is.
hopefully most of us don’t/won’t forget their contribution.
There’s also a BM though that contributes to this site that I think might seriously be worried about shitting himself.
Maybe Hooten is standing by on minimum wage ready to swap out his incontinence pad
Can’t wait MB – don’t let me down
Sorry, Tim, but during The Panel today I was preparing my little item on Kevin Roberts. I did hear the programme, but neither Joe Bennett nor Barry Corbett actually said anything disgusting, craven or stupid. As you know, this has not always been the case….
http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-08032011/#comment-305696
http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-31052013/#comment-641545
http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-18032013/#comment-605691
Syrian letter to US warns of “catastrophic” consequences, civil to regional to global.
Oh, and the price of oil. Good thing that the Indian government is considering closing fuel stations at night-time…
http://web.orange.co.uk/article/news/syrian_letter_pleads_with_us_not_to_attack
I note that after days of telling us he will be speaking to Cameron soon or in 24 hours, they have finally spoken… for Key to get Cameron’s views on Syria, which have been widely publicised… could have saved time and money on the call
I also note that following contact with the US a few days ago Key spoke of having no faith in the lack of the Security Council to meet… Today I note the US saying the security council have been ridiculous.
Key was asked to throw a bit of criticism to the security council as his “part” in the US move to get countries onside?
I havent been shocked, but disappointed, at how hard our PM has tried to NOT have an opinion on this topic until he spoke to the USA.
you notice the most likely perception.
The people of Porirua’s Brandon Intermediate and Corrina Primary School wish me to especially thank Education Minister Hekia Parata for the withdrawal of funding for children with specific learning disabilities,
What an abysmal ugly mess of the Education Portfolio Parata is, a complete and utter waste of space, schools have to go through a rigorous application to be allowed extra funding for teaching these special kids which is designed to greatly improve their education when compared with the rest of their class,
Since 2012 more testing of these kids capabilities has been a requirement of receiving the funding, kids that have shown an improvement have then had the funding withdrawn in a pathetic act of ‘saving’ from Parata’s Ministry,
Of course once the funding is withdrawn the kids don’t get the extra help they need to keep up with the rest of the class and so fall behind,
The stupidity brought about by Hekia Parata means that once the kids have fallen far enough behind in their learning the schools can then re-apply for the funding,
i can only conclude that Hekia is hell bent on producing at least some kids from these schools with an intellectual ability on a par with Her’s, which to all extents and purposes seems to be non-existent…
No place for the vulnerable in this government’s view of NZ. I am surprised she didnt sack their teachers for not getting them to NS level.
Ssssh, i think that once the charter schools are up and running that such will be the next plan…
Quoting NZ’s shallowest, most self-involved man.
Jim Mora sinks to an incredible new low
Afternoons with Jim Mora, Radio NZ National, Friday 6 September 2013
Anyone with a taste for the absurd, the creepy and the pretentious should check out the “inspirational” website of Saatchi advertising supremo “Doctor” Kevin Roberts. The man who has, to this writer’s knowledge, never uttered a sentence that is not complete and unmitigated bullshit, offers up, for our edification, the complete list of his public speeches and his exciting, radical and deep personal philosophy, which can be summed up thusly: New Zealand is “on the edge”, and we’re all CRA-A-A-A-A-A-AZY, ma-a-a-a-a-aan, and that’s COOL. That, and something even dopier, about “love brands”.
In 1999, Roberts attracted almost universal condemnation and ridicule by somehow persuading Air New Zealand to have one of its jumbo jets painted with a huge, grotesque, distorted mural of the All Black front row. This mortified, shamed and humiliated the players, angered the All Black coach John Hart, and disgusted the fans. However, Roberts, having clout because of his inordinate influence and power on the NZRFU board, forced it through, and the jet was daubed with the atrocity.
Two years after that, on September 11, 2001, Roberts watched the WTC collapse from the Saatchi offices, in a nearby building. Undaunted by any notions of common sense or legality, he then wrote an open letter to the New York Times urging the governor George Pataki to suspend the law and extend the reign of the criminal, Mafia-connected mayor Rudolf Giuliani. Of course, Governor Pataki ignored the inane petition.
Shortly after that embarrassment, Roberts was back in New Zealand, appearing as a guest on the dismal TV3 chat show, The Panel. Even his half-drunken fellow-panelists were visibly shocked by Roberts’ performance that night: putting aside such troublesome notions as
restraint, sensitivity or decency, Roberts said this: “You know what New Zealand should have done after September 11? We should have sent a planeload of soldiers in an Air New Zealand jumbo jet, all dressed in black bomber jackets with a silver fern on them, and taken them to Ground Zero, because we’re good at urban disasters. And they would have danced a haka on the site and then started digging. The WORLD’S MEDIA would have filmed this, and the publicity would have been absolutely PRICELESS.”
At this point, there was utter silence on the set. The usual guffawing and chuckling had stopped. You could truly have heard a pin drop. Every panelist, including the inebriated Pam Corkery, was struck dumb.
Eventually one female panellist spoke up: “Isn’t that…. isn’t that a bit…..cynical?”
The normally smiling Roberts mien clouded over wrathfully: “No, it’s not cynical,” he snarled, clearly angry that anyone had had the temerity to question his brilliance. “It would have been a massive gesture of LOVE.”
So, quite clearly, Roberts is a bad joke amongst the smart set (this writer, i.e. moi, etc.) and indeed anyone who has the ability to spot an odious self-promoting blither merchant. He is like some hideous character dreamed up by the likes of Tom Robbins or David Lodge to embody monstrous hypocrisy and monumental silliness.
Depressingly, though, he seems to have a number of acolytes. There is of course, his NZEdge “partner” Brian Sweeney, but then you’d expect Sweeney to faithfully parrot his master’s gibberish. More depressing is the number of people who have written letters in support of Roberts’ crap pseudo-philosophy and empty, mindless boosterism. Check out these boobies and their idiotic letters by clicking on the FEEDBACK section on….
http://www.nzedge.com
Thankfully, Roberts is pretty much forgotten or ignored these days. But not by EVERYONE. So who would be shallow enough and credulous enough and uncritical enough to seriously cite the Bullshit-Meister? Well, if you were listening to Afternoons with Jim Mora shortly after 3 o’clock today, you would have heard the Friday wine expert (a woman whose name escapes me) talking about the way that wine labels have a fiercely loyal following. And then you would have heard host Jim Mora chirp up with this gem: “That’s what Kevin Roberts was talking about in his book Lovemarks, wasn’t it!”
We’ve heard him laughing at the victims of brutal state repression, we’ve heard his guests windily pontificate about the need to respect racist white juries in America’s Deep South, and we’ve heard him declare that bag of wind Barack Obama to be “the greatest orator of our time”. But quoting the infamous Bhagwan of Bullshit might just be the most idiotic thing that Jim Mora has ever done.
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Here’s a little something I wrote eight years ago about New Zealand’s worst bullshitter….
http://nz.general.narkive.com/oJGkqRWj/purveyors-of-bullshit-no-1-kevin-roberts
Enjoyed very much your Mora/Roberts observations Morrissey.
Went to the Roberts link in your narkive.com post and found this pearler from said lunatic –
“The REAL world of business is anchored by Respect at one end and inspired by Love at the other. ”
????????????? WTF unmitigated shit talk is that ? Against everything we now know.
Still Morrissey I reckon ex-lord of the realm and jailbird Jeffrey Archer takes alot of beating in the arsehole stakes. Your appraisal of that scum……..?
Enjoyed very much your Mora/Roberts observations Morrissey.
Went to the Roberts link in your narkive.com post and found this pearler from said lunatic –
“The REAL world of business is anchored by Respect at one end and inspired by Love at the other. ”
????????????? WTF unmitigated shit talk is that ? Against everything we now know.
Most shocking of all, North, is the fact that both Waikato University and Oxford University have awarded honorary doctorates to this bumptious impostor.
Still Morrissey I reckon ex-lord of the realm and jailbird Jeffrey Archer takes alot of beating in the arsehole stakes. Your appraisal of that scum……..?
I have occasionally commented on the world’s worst blockbuster author. Enjoy…
http://nz.general.narkive.com/Ya5cDMTr/harlan-ullman-given-free-ride-by-incompetent-holmes
http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-01082011/#comment-359020
http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-10042013/#comment-616653
Campbell Live tonight – a sad story about a sickness beneficiary amputee in a wheelchair, who was being forced by WINZ to attend a budgeting course.
The harassment and humiliation by WINZ of the sick, poor, disabled and powerless is just getting worse.
Bring on the 2014 elections!
And amazing what a bit of media attention did in terms of getting WINZ to do the right thing!
BEFORE the 2014 election there should be vigorous responses to this sort of treatment. on every occasion it occurs. It is happening increasingly. It is the result of deliberately conceived and executed government policies. Fatso and her officials. All of them knowing what havoc it wreaks in peoples’ minds and souls. But they keep on pushing the envelope. It has to be resisted !
WTF was TV3 News about tonight re the so called poll of Labour Leadership.
They made no mention of where or how the poll was conducted. They seemed to imply that Jones would be King maker because he could give his second preference votes to whoever he choose.
What gives with this rubbish.
They took no account of union vote and I have no idea how they could have polled Labour Party members with any degree of certainty.
When Labour regains the Treasury benches they need to give some urgency to overhauling the whole Broadcasting scene in NZ
There was a snippet of info about the poll in 3 News’s press release earlier today.
But we’re they members of the Labor Party or just whoever answered the phone
Looks like the company “Research Now”, specialises in online
researchdata gathering, using online panels.Well, Labour “identifying” repondents were at 45.6% for Cunliffe. It’s inconceivable that of the Labour affiliates and members overall there would be less than that to start with. Cunliffe is our next leader. And judging by ShonKey Python’s risibly studied efforts to confide his mock eruditions with the New Zealand nation, the now bored, entitled little rich boy is privately considering his heart of hearts.
All that’s in it for him is the trophy of a prime ministership of three terms. It’s at risk. He knows it. Helen went to New York as an outsider more or less. ShonKey Python returns to New York with the badge of having owned a country.
Imagine the reunion – that famous picture of Reagan and his inner circle drinking and cracking up big time – ” We told them the wealth would trickle down……..”
Sad aye ? Lot’s of people thought that we had a PM who really, specially cared for Aotearoa and her people.
Yes, I found it odd that they should say what they did about second preferences, since Shane Jones has no control over the second preferences of the people who vote for him, and no one has made any suggestions along those lines.
My preference would be for the next Government to simply pull all State funding from TV3, Gower, Garner and Espiner seem to want to use TV3 as their personal political plaything let them f**king pay for it…
@bad12 – Paddy The Handsome and Duncan Gooner have already got theirs’.
Look at them. The minds reflect into the physical I’m sure……..one’s an overweight, rugby club late Saturday afternoon, blowhard…….the other’s just…….well……startlingly weird.
Sorry, forgot Lispiner. Yeah he’s still got a desk at Scots’ College. Pretty little private school boy.
“When Labour regains the Treasury benches they need to give some urgency to overhauling the whole Broadcasting scene in NZ”
They do. I’m not sure Clair Curran should be the one to do it however.
I would agree there. Curran talking on IT is weird enough without letting her dabble with Broadcasting
But keep her on as Minister for Open Government and Information Technology Privacy
CV
Why do I get the feeling you have your tongue firmly planted in your cheek
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Or even just minister for Government Information Technology 😉
git outa here!
And Minister for Mora Reform. I note the RNZ site has 3 producers listed! Do all 3 work 5 days a week on Afternoons I wonder? They must have all come from Radio Peoria.
I agree. Only genuinely random polls that can be verifiable by an ombudsman and approved (for a hefty fee) should be legal so that the public are not deceived and manipulated.
Russia’s Federal Protection Service (FSO), the Kremlin agency that protects state officials like the president and the prime minister, has ordered 20 typewriters in an apparent bid to avoid leaks and surveillance like those revealed by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden.
http://themoscownews.com/russia/20130711/191758523/Russian-security-agency-to-buy-typewriters-to-avoid-surveillance.html
one weakness is that every key on a typewriter has a specific frequency sound.
seriously?
A problem that won’t be going away any time soon.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-06/tepco-irradiated-water-find-may-signal-problem-for-bypass-plan.html
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/skorea-bans-fishery-products-fukushima-region
Robber Barons
Why am I not surprised? Oh, that would be because we see the same thing happening here especially under National governments.
“It is only the poor who are forbidden to beg”.
– Anatole France
That is such a profound statement!
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Prick should be strung up by the heels.
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/sep/05/mission-congo-pat-robertson-aid-rwanda
he’s a shocker all Right, one of many.
Indeed RT, although Mr Brand alleviates my despair.
uniform fetishism has never gone out of style .
“more harm than revolutions!”
Bloody mongrels, too much free time and access to weapons, taking the law into their own hands. Ruining the neighbourhood and costing the taxpayer money. You know when this stuff happens it’s bad parenting – people like this need a short sharp shock in a boot camp or something. That’ll teach them for resorting to violence and injuring someone.
waiting for lhaws to rant about parnell ferals…
Ha! You’ll be waiting a long time, I reckon.
Sorry, I don’t see an issue here. Are we not allowed to shoot the servants now?
Breaking News – ‘The Australian’:
“Landslide win for Liberals in Australian General Election. Labour thrashed in historic defeat…..”
Oh, dammit, embargo breached, 20 hours too soon. Sorry, swiftly wrap it up, hold back, and release again when due…
For explanations read:
“Australian TV networks refuse to run anti-Murdoch ad days before election”
http://pacific.scoop.co.nz/2013/09/australian-tv-networks-refuse-to-run-anti-murdoch-ad-before-election/
http://www.scoopit.co.nz/story.php?title=pilger-murdoch-press-keeps-australias-dirty-secret
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Murdoch
“Precursor” or “trial run” for the general election 2014 in New Zealand, perhaps? Check out what NZ mainstream media report already – on ‘Labour’, the leadership road-show, the candidates and so forth!