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The current rise of populism challenges the way we think about people’s relationship to the economy.We seem to be entering an era of populism, in which leadership in a democracy is based on preferences of the population which do not seem entirely rational nor serving their longer interests. ...
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Of Course Chris T abuses the Prime Minister
First and foremost – he clearly feels the need to abuse women – at every opportunity.
Second – Chris T – is representative of some of the very lazy side of Waikato farmers. Wretched paddocks and buildings. Rubbish galore. Rusty useless vehicles of all manner.
Third – Chris T – gets offered endless written attention. Boring yards and yards of it.
Fourth – he denigrates and rubs out any person who has a reasonable standard of achievement.
I don't know why he is a Poster boy of "The Standard". His fellow Layabouts, Communists, and Farmers must get quite tired of Chris T.
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[Presumably, you’re referring to Chris Trotter but without a link it is impossible to tell what triggered your rant this time. In addition, Chris Trotter is not a Poster boy of “The Standard”. I get quite tired of your unhinged comments here – Incognito]
See my Moderation note @ 4:42 AM.
I assumed it was commenter here Chris T. Vitriol in any case.
That possibility crossed my mind too and OT has form. I went for the ‘lesser crime’ instead 😉
Kind.
Hi Incognito. In defence/support of OT (yes, you're right, it's de minimis) he was referring to the Chris T who comments here and his comment was attached to a thread involving Chris T (from which OT's comment was moved) and I don't personally find OT's comments vitriolic or out of order; a little stylistically sour maybe, but not offensive; I too wondered about CT's support for the placard-wielding farmer who thinks Jacinda is "pretty" and his approach to commenting here, so wasn't perturbed by OT's comments. I don't think "unhinged" is a fair label for them. For what it's worth
The last para – if he had deleted that he would have got a lot of things off his/her chest which may be true. I think a little rant now and then is reasonable, where else can you safely vent impatience at the way politics and life is unfolding? Most of us understand and say yeah or there, there. Perhaps he could give us examples of the various things he has enumerated so we know what has got him going. That would be a practical outcome and a kindly one also.
Hi Robert, thank you for the feedback.
OT’s comment was a standalone one and not a reply to another comment. OT has form but I gave him the benefit of doubt and a gentle warning, not a threat.
Of course, I posted the image of the muppet farmer, not CT. That said, CT is becoming more cumbersome and more of an issue than OT; CT’s ‘TS credit rating’ is dropping rapidly and I’ve warned CT about this too.
We’re all adults here and I hope I don’t have to spend more time on either OT or CT 😉
Fair enough.
If National is moving to the more conservative and 'moral' side, with the new list, why did they then rush to choose Collins? That can only prove what hypocrites these people are.
Church in the weekend, screw everyone financially during the week. Nothing changes.
National are a hollowed out collection of factions fronted by the biggest bullies now it seems.
They are trusted with the skeletons from the last 3 terms of nationals rule. A few of them are theirs anyway.
Gerry's rebuild:
Imagine if Gerry Brownlee, the deputy leader of the opposition, was let loose in a National-led government next month. Be very afraid, people…
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2020/08/christchurch-justice-precinct-needed-more-than-700-000-to-fix-electronics.html
They should've gone with weatherboard.
All the third world tinpot dictatorships around the word would be envious of such incompetence.
Infectious diseases ASF and COVID-19 contributing to falling production of non-poultry meat.
"World total meat production in 2020 is forecast to fall to 333 million tonnes (carcass weight equivalent), 1.7 percent lower than in 2019, marking the second year of consecutive decline. Much of the contraction is again expected to reflect a sharp drop in global production of pig meat, largely concentrated in Asian countries affected by the African swine fever (ASF) viral disease, but also of bovine meat, especially in the United States of America (USA) and Australia. By contrast, global production of poultry meat is forecast to expand, albeit at half the rate recorded last year. Modest output growth is also predicted for ovine meat. The pace of expansion of all the meat sectors has been negatively affected by COVID-19 market disruptions, aggravating the effects of animal diseases."
http://www.fao.org/3/ca9509en/CA9509EN.pdf
Always good to throw Hoskings a bone every now and then, and today he got one:
Now, it's fair to say none of us practice much social distancing at L1, although I do give people a wider berth than I used to, but this is a rare mistake from the PM and she should probably acknowledge it in some way.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12355032
I think whoever put together that poster was thinking in terms of public places – not private gatherings or functions. In other words, if you are waiting in a queue there is no need to stand immediately behind the person in front of you. I find now that I automatically stand a few paces away and most other people do too. Its a courteous gesture anyway and usually appreciated.
Without having time to even read that story, I suspect it is based on the difference between the official guidance issued before and after lockdown but which kept the same Level numbers.
Hosk likely just recycling a bone tossed to him by the Nat party 'intelligence' unit. Who's a good boy!
what's the source of the image? (link please). Like Sacha I want to check the version and date.
https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/covid-19-alert-levels-what-they-mean-you
Adern "I don't know about that Mike"
Hosk "It's on the poster"
Adern "Well that's news to me, I don't know if many people know that"
Hosk "I think you'll find you're wrong Prime Minister, whenever I go out people are always avoiding me, sometimes by more than a meter".
Ho-Sk Y17 is a dangerous brain-eating microbe that turns its victims into a vegetative state. It tends to spread by EM waves.
Thanks for the laugh!!
A 23 March dated story: pre-lockdown, as I thought.
Prof. Cornel West: Joe Biden a Neoliberal Disaster, Donald Trump a Neofascist Catastrophe!
Why settle for less? Vote for the greatest evil of all!
+1
it was the best choice last time around too.
SMoD has its appeal, as well. "Just end it already" is quite the powerful slogan.
I was sort of speculating a few days ago that the SMoD on Dec 31, 2020 (you know, the big finale to a clusterfucked year) would leave a few astro/cosmonauts on the ISS, stranded in LEO. Which would, of course, be the utopian "true left" government the "everyone's a tory except me" crowd could appreciate.
But then the thought occurred just now that the ISS is only a couple of hundred km up, IIRC, so would probably go through the SMoD's ejecta plume and be zapped that way. Alas, a truly left wing government is impossible.
It's 400km up, on average. It has to do debris collision avoidance maneuvers about once a year on average, so even without the ejecta plume it might not last that long without earth tracking all the space trash. Then there's the risk of a crazed rooskie going and drilling holes in it.
The hole could have been to craftily sneak a sly ciggie or cover up a particularly odiferous fart.
I'm not curious enough to watch 26 minutes of russian propaganda to find out, but I'm curious enough to ask: is Cornel West such a slow learner that he's endorsed the Greens candidate this time around? (it's some noname like Who?ie Who?kins)
Having written scathingly about Biden in the past, I need to see his good side. It is illuminated via historical evidence here: https://www.reddit.com/r/neoliberal/comments/fedjp0/the_comprehensive_case_for_joe_biden/
Joe Biden, Mass Incarceration Zealot
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2018/08/biden-crime-mass-incarceration-police-prisons
Expect More Military “Liberal Interventionism” Under a Joe Biden Presidency
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2020/06/joe-biden-foreign-policy-military-liberal-interventionism-obama
A Biden presidency would not be good news for Palestine
https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/biden-presidency-good-news-palestine-200602085815765.html
Joe Biden to rich donors: "Nothing would fundamentally change" if he's elected
https://www.salon.com/2019/06/19/joe-biden-to-rich-donors-nothing-would-fundamentally-change-if-hes-elected/
etc etc and so forth……
Surely you've got more than that to unload yourself of? You've been holding it in a while. Go on, let rip. You'll feel better.
Yeah, so I wrote scathingly of him several times here after seeing that kind of stuff. However, one must adopt a balanced view in politics. Partisans & bigots fall victim to prejudice routinely, but why copy them??
When you read how a politician started out, and get a sense of consistency from his legislative track record in the earlier phase of his political career, and it seems evident that he was trying to help disadvantaged groups, you are likely to form a favourable opinion of his character. And if you have already formed a negative view, you can change your mind.
If you mind is open, that is. So it's just a matter of being fair to the guy by evaluating the pros & cons, eh?
While I resect your view that this is a time (in the US) for political pragmatism, don't fool yourself as who Biden is and whose interests he actually represents..and if we where living in the states..they sure as hell wouldn't be ours.
Then of course there is the very serious ( though bizarrely barely reported upon) issue that he is quite obviously suffering from some sort of age related mental decline/condition…so it looks like the US public are finally really going to vote on an actual dead dog.
Yeah, he's a trad establishment Dem, I get that. Will keep an open mind on the mental health front, but Trump has beaten him to it, really!
I'm somewhat inclined to the thesis advocated by "14th-century bishop William of Wykeham… Manners maketh man, you know". https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/manners+maketh+man
So his gentility of style may actually indicate that he is a true gentleman. Yeah, I know, whimsy has no place nowadays – but stranger things have happened!
If we were living in the states John Key would be considered a dangerous left radical. Bill English would be regarded politically as being religiously left of John Kennedy.
The political scales there are a bit sc(r)ewed
If we were living in the states John Key would be considered a dangerous left radical.
No, he would be considered to be a right wing neoliberal patsy. The U.S. Congress is full of Key equivalents, unfortunately.
Mate it seems (judging by your history on this site anyway) that you have been advocating for free thinking progressives to be voting for eating cold bowls of shit for years, obviously it an acquired taste that you have become accustomed too..maybe even look forward to…that particular perversion has no appeal for me thank you all the same.
Nina Turner Says Voting For Joe Like Eating ‘Bowl Of Shit'
Were I an America (and thank God I'm not) I would be voting for Joe Biden – the lesser of two incompetents.
This story originally from Forbes, now NYPost .. top New York real estate exec now entering NZ market suggesting there is a 'getaround' for overseas owners to buy NZ residential property .. thoughts please? Rape and plunder all over again ?
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apologies Incognito .. I will try to remember to use my old email address.
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That workaround has been going from before the foreign buyer rules for tax purposes and for a sometimes easier road through the OIO
The ‘investment’ becomes tax deductible and pre covid could ha e generated considerable income. There’s a lot of private lodges around the place. At 1300 m2 it’s hardly in the affordable housing category. The deal will have got someone out of the shit, maybe.
The local council will be smiling, visitor accom. rates on it will be significant. Getting the commercial use will have kept the planning dept and lawyer busy for a while too
dodgy as all get up …. when it is being advertised and promoted in Forbes and New York as a simple easy 'getaround'. John Key's dream all over again. Enough, no more.
ACT uses pretty much the smallest "bus" possible for the electioneering tour, still has half the seats free.
Deary me.
Awww, that knitted elf is soooooo cuuuuuute!
What is it with righties and puppets.
Self-awareness.
FIFY
Glove puppet
And the elf? A knitted Kiwi, say Kevin the Freedom Kiwi, maybe makes some sense sitting in the front of the bus. But the elf looks like he's just grabbed it at the last minute. If it was commissioned, well…
I particularly like that Newshub has referred to the knitted elf as a "genderless humanoid doll" – seems a fitting mascot for the ACT leader.
The knitted elf has no ears …so is deaf.
That seems fitting as well.
Pollies should not take bus tours.
A busload of politicians were driving down a country road when, all of a sudden, the bus ran off the road and crashed into a tree in a farmer's field. The farmer, after seeing what happened, went over to investigate. He then proceeded to dig a hole and bury the politicians. The local cop came out, saw the crashed bus and asked the farmer where all the politicians had gone. The farmer said he had buried them. The cop asked the farmer, "Were they ALL dead?" The old farmer replied, "Well, some of them said they weren't, but you know how them politicians lie."
Seymour should have been more economical and gone for the more appropriate Noddy car to transport his ACT team around the country.
Aww..
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1292501166358761473
You realise Tulsi didn't run in the election?
Yup. Anyhoo, she was in the wrong party.
The Prime Minister is saying today we're going to get a travel bubble with the Cook Islands before the end of the year.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/
Ladies and gentlemen, pack your snorkels.
I will correct that mistatement for you.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12355183
In other words we are probably talking aspirational for the moment. But yeah, if nothing screws up, this looks possible.
I saw Bridges call this at a candidate/political meeting on a news clip, sometime last week.
How did he know?
Is he privvy to the planning/korero going on as opposition spokesperson?
Public servant whisper?
High cyclone season — yippee !!!
Looks like whatever Collins says is going to be top of the RNZ webpage until the election.
I reckon they’ve hacked the site with ransomware in the form of endless promotional puff-pieces on National and its present Leader. \sarc
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/300078543/donald-trump-i-want-my-face-to-be-on-mount-rushmore
lol, i think i wet my pants.
https://archive.li/pBRM8/690a07dc34f395d119ef763b515e3202803fab6b/scr.png
well that cheered me up lol. Bit of a rollercoaster between a couple of comments 🙂
Fuck, Belgium.
http://archive.li/7A3NP (nyt)
Of course the hospitals work wonderfully if they're half empty because they refuse to accept the patients most likely to need their help. Fucking hell.
Eurothanasia.
This fellow has been a national embarrassment for decades. He was, ominously for Collins and her ever-diminishing crew this year, also the Deputy Leader of the party in 2005….
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[don’t post blatant fat bigotry. If you don’t understand why this is a problem, then consider if you had written a piece of blatant sexism aimed at a National woman MP. If that doesn’t get through, imagine if someone had written pejorative stereotypes about a Māori MP. There are plenty of problems with Brownlee’s politics and personality without buying into and promoting negative stereotypes based in shaming people for their bodies – weka]
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I think not to show unreasonable bias against gez, you should put personal descriptions for each of the players you mention. All of them are troughers.
John Key – smooth, oily, slimy etc
So what you're really saying is he's met all the requirements to be nominated for a Knighthood
How many times do you people need to be told not to focus on Brownlee's body when his character and actions offer more than enough targets. Pathetic.
Mr Breen's post was focused on Brownlee's misconstruing of the word "fatuous." The shaming of Brownlee was for his foolishness, not his weight.
The comment has been deleted so we cannot verify your defence of your dear ami. IIRC, he was also link-whoring to one of his own dated blog posts on his own site, which usually doesn’t add anything to the conversation here.
I don’t think that Morrissey has been banned, just warned, and I’m sure he’s big enough to put up his own defence if he feels the need.
Please don’t meddle with Moderation because you’re playing with fire.
he was also link-whoring to one of his own dated blog posts on his own site
Indeed. Mr Breen is without doubt a "link whore." Timely intervention on your part, my good man.
You seem to have eyesight problems; I, i.e. moi, did not intervene, but I can now if you keep insisting because you’re starting to blister already.