Open mike 12/04/2025

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    • gsays 1.1

      Good link thanks Stephen.

      “Making these changes is about stopping inequality from getting worse, protecting our community from disunity, and restoring the faith of Australians that Government can work for them.”

      That's the problem, government has stopped working for the majority of of people for 40 years now.

      Cheers also for yesty’s link on Canada/Japan bond sale/ Tariffs ‘pause’.

    • alwyn 1.2

      Anglicare Australia is of course a charitable organisation which is part of the Anglican Church. It doesn't pay any tax. Isn't it amazing how organisations that are exempt from taxes are so keen on increasing the taxes for everyone else who does pay them?

      • gsays 1.2.1

        Amazing too how trolls choose not to comprehend when tax reform is mentioned.

      • Ad 1.2.2

        It does discount their opinion.

        Hard to consider major tax reform with the entire world descending into economic chaos for years.

        We should keep it simpler by us aligning to Australia's 0 rate for low incomes.

        • SPC 1.2.2.1

          That cannot be afforded, we have an inability to find government now.

          We have to raise revenues to afford government that we have had (and more for aging population cost + climate change cost + Paris Accord compliance + defence in an insecure world).

          • Nic the NZer 1.2.2.1.1

            Completely untrue. Public sector spending levels were only just beginning to approach a healthy level at the end of the last govt term.

            • SPC 1.2.2.1.1.1

              Public sector spending levels were only just beginning to approach a healthy level at the end of the last govt term.

              True, but this in no way refutes what I said.

              We had a budget deficit in 2023 and thus were no position to afford a zero tax threshold then. Not with health still under-funded and with growing cost of super, old age care cost and provision of housing for those retiring without home ownership.

              • Nic the NZer

                It does. Labour did no tax reform and it was going just fine.

                • SPC

                  Just fine?

                  They were voted out (for not doing enough) and were still running a deficit – which led to their effort at government spending austerity.

                  And I was replying to Ad proposing we not do tax revenue gain change (so as to afford more government spending), but reduce tax with a zero rate threshold instead.

                  One can only wonder what such a costed manifesto would look like.

                  • Nic the NZer

                    They were not voted out for running a deficit, and the current lot will not be voted out for pushing out the anticipated return to surplus with their austerity policies either.

      • mikesh 1.2.3

        Why would Anglicare pay tax. I assume it doesn't make any profit, but simply reroutes donations (on which tax has already been paid by the donors).

  1. I Feel Love 2

    Just been reading comments on Reddit about the tariff binge & there's a bit of pushback from small US business owners & they're calling Trumps demands forcing them to build factories in the US as "communist". Wild stuff.

    • PsyclingLeft.Always 2.1

      Trumps demands forcing them to build factories in the US as "communist".

      Lol….People aye : )

  2. PsyclingLeft.Always 3

    Measles on the rise. Can be deadly to kids and immunocompromised. Please Vaccinate !

    Doctors are "very worried" about a measles outbreak as cases rise rapidly overseas, and they're urging people heading overseas in the upcoming school holidays to make sure they're vaccinated.

    Health NZ's acting National Public Health Service clinical director protection, Dr Matthew Reid, said the pattern in Australia indicated there was "a very high risk" that New Zealand could soon see cases here.

    "We are very worried. [Health NZ Te Whatu Ora] collaborates very closely with ESR [the Institute of Environmental Science and Research] and they've rated the risk of it coming in at 'very high'.

    "When you don't have an immune population the risk is that numbers multiply very quickly."

    Babies and young children were at particular risk, he added.

    "Measles is our most contagious disease and can make people so sick they need to be hospitalised.

    Sadly, quite possibly due to antivaxxer mis and disinformation…

    He said New Zealand's low vaccination rates meant once it was here "it could spread very quickly".

    "Overall, at five years old around 81, 82 percent of kids have been vaccinated. That's not nearly as high as the 95 percent [vaccinated] we need for general protection.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/557959/warning-of-measles-spreading-abroad-as-school-holidays-kick-off

    NZ measles epidemic possible?

    Measles epidemic warning as vaccination rates continue to lag

    The number of children becoming susceptible to measles is growing by about 1000 a month, according to public health experts.

    The figure has been highlighted in a briefing paper by the Public Health Communication Centre, a group of leading doctors and public health researchers.

    Childhood immunisation rates are stuck on about 82 percent, and for years have been below the 95 percent needed for population-wide immunity.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/515549/measles-epidemic-warning-as-vaccination-rates-continue-to-lag

    Amerikas Cooker in Chief RFK jnr turns back the clock on Vaccination and…

    Texas records second measles-related death, local media report A second child with measles has died in Texas where hundreds of cases of the disease have been recorded in recent weeks,

    He plans to visit. FFS ! To what end?

    US Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr to plan a trip to the state, local media reported early on Sunday

    Kennedy, a longtime vaccine sceptic, said in his immediate response to the first measles death in February that such outbreaks are commonplace.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/557348/texas-records-second-measles-related-death-local-media-report

    RFK jnr Amerikan cooker in chief has previous….

    RFK Jr's comments on deadly measles outbreak 'a complete lie' – Samoa's director-general of health

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/540478/rfk-jr-s-comments-on-deadly-measles-outbreak-a-complete-lie-samoa-s-director-general-of-health

    The Amerikan loon has other plans too ?..

    US health agency plans study into vaccines and autism, sources say

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/544148/us-health-agency-plans-study-into-vaccines-and-autism-sources-say

    • joe90 3.1

      He plans to visit. FFS ! To what end?

      Because he's a predator preying "on the desperation of parents of sick children, vaccinating his own kids while building a following, hypocritically discouraging other parents from vaccinating theirs".

      .

      A meeting with Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. at the Food and Drug Administration was intended to be an introduction between Kennedy and the agency staffers he oversees, but his remarks were so shocking that several people walked out, according to a report by Politico on Friday.

      […]

      He also repeated his claims that Americans were healthier when he was a child than they are now, and raised eyebrows when he used the term “retarded” in a rant about his claims about the causes of chronic diseases and autism, touting the Kennedy family’s long history with the Special Olympics and other charities:

      “This whole generation is damaged,” Kennedy said, according to the transcript, claiming that rising rates of chronic disease, allergies and other illnesses are the result of some “environmental toxin.”

      “The information is out there,” he said. “But those studies aren’t done because they may offend the financial interests of powerful entities.”

      Kennedy said he’d soon be releasing “new data” from the CDC’s autism monitoring network that shows that 1 in 31 children now have been diagnosed with the neurological condition. The agency’s most recent estimate to date has been that 1 in 36 children have been identified with Autism Spectrum Disorder.

      “Because of my family’s commitment to these issues, I spent 200 hours … with the retarded when I was in high school,” Kennedy said at one point. “So I was seeing people with intellectual disabilities all the time. I never saw anybody with autism.”

      https://www.mediaite.com/news/fda-staffers-dish-on-unhinged-meeting-with-rfk-jr-where-he-called-special-olympics-athletes-retarded/

    • I Feel Love 3.2

      "All my kids are vaccinated" – RFK Jr at those recent hearings.

  3. joe90 4

    The coming Atlantic hurricane season will be one to watch.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Dorian%E2%80%93Alabama_controversy

    The Trump administration intends to eliminate the research arm of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, close all weather and climate labs and eviscerate its budget along with several other NOAA offices, according to internal documents obtained by CNN.

    The documents describe the administration’s budget proposal for 2026, but indicate the administration expects the agency to enact the changes immediately.

    The cuts would devastate weather and climate research as weather is becoming more erratic, extreme and costly. It would cripple the US industries — including agriculture — that depend on free, accurate weather and climate data and expert analysis. It could also halt research on deadly weather, including severe storms and tornadoes.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/11/climate/trump-noaa-budget-cuts/index.html

    • Macro 4.1

      No worries! The Chump knows where hurricanes are headed. devil

      • joe90 4.1.1

        Chump knows about lotsa things.

        President Trump has suggested multiple times to senior Homeland Security and national security officials that they explore using nuclear bombs to stop hurricanes from hitting the United States, according to sources who have heard the president's private remarks and been briefed on a National Security Council memorandum that recorded those comments.

        https://www.axios.com/2019/08/25/trump-nuclear-bombs-hurricanes

    • PsyclingLeft.Always 4.2

      AKA Sharpiegate !? Not seen this before. Fark you couldnt make this stuff up. Its like some kind of surreal satire. But sadly, all too real.

      He and his fellow loons see Science…(well, Knowledge in general) as something to disparage,diminish, and delete.

      Wealth and power are the only things of value to them.

      Our own maga morons are doing the same here in NZ, with our NOAA equivalent, NIWA.

      • joe90 4.2.1

        Apparently any mention of climate rattles tRump, I guess because it might mean someone is referring to climate change, so climate just had to go.

  4. KJT 5

    On the military spendup. From an adult perspective.

    https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL2504/S00022/on-marketing-the-military-threat-posed-by-china.htm

    “Against who? Yes, we are a small trading nation that needs to keep its trade routes open. Yet by the same logic, China is a big trading nation that also needs to keep its trade routes open, because it, too, needs access to global markets, and is not self-sufficient in oil. The fear that China will – someday – unilaterally shut off the trade routes through the South China Sea that its own economic prosperity depends upon, is deeply irrational.”

    It is a common characteristic of inadequate and/or wannabee authoritarian Government to try and focus attention on an exterior threat. The irony of using China, the same country the Coalition of Cockups is busily selling us to, seems to be lost on many commentators

    • SPC 5.1

      The fear that China will – someday – unilaterally shut off the trade routes through the South China Sea that its own economic prosperity depends upon, is deeply irrational.”

      The actual sea lane issue is cutting off trade by others (not their own trade) and it would thus be shipping (from Europe via the Red Sea or from the Persian Gulf) to and from Taiwan, South Korea and Japan.

      • aj 5.1.1

        Panama Canal – doesn't anyone have concern that an irrational country, that believes it can violate international law as it likes, controls this vital trade route? What country is currently trying to break the global trading system by imposing tarrifs left, right, and cente?

        • SPC 5.1.1.1

          To this point the US has been for the freedom of the seas.

          And it has not controlled it, since Carter gave control of it to Panama.

          This year Trump said there was a China threat to it (as a Hong Kong company owned ports at either end). Black Rock bought the two ports. That matter is now over.

    • Bearded Git 5.2

      +1000 KJT

    • SPC 5.3

      The irony of using China, the same country the Coalition of Cockups is busily selling us to, seems to be lost on many commentators

      No one has sold us to the Chinese. Not the government that signed the FTA, or the current one. We trade with them and others.

      • weka 5.3.1

        Is there a list of which NZ strategic assets are owned off shore? Including but not limited to China.

        Watching the UK having to nationalise British Steel, currently owned by a Chinese company which had intended to shut one of the last steel furnaces.

        • KJT 5.3.1.1

          INVESTMENT SUMMIT: Next steps to increase investment | Beehive.govt.nz

          Government makes it faster and easier to invest in New Zealand | Beehive.govt.nz

          Economic growth depends on exports | interest.co.nz

          "New Zealand’s current account deficit, now running at $27 bln per annum, is increasingly dominated by interest on historical deficits plus repatriated profits to overseas owners".

          Note interest to overseas bankers and profits repatriated to overseas owners.

          The Coalition of Cockups reliance on “cargo cultism”, foreign direct investment, rather than Government investment, is going to make overseas claims on our national income, our balance of payments, much worse.

        • KJT 5.3.1.2

          A much shorter list will be NZ strategic assets, Not controlled offshore.

          Starting with two banks!

          • weka 5.3.1.2.1

            true darklol. But it would be good to make a list of who the owners are, and what our vulnerabilities are. I just read something about China not needing UK steel anymore because it's now got sufficient internal infrastructure to be self sufficient. No idea if that's true, and I'm sure there are other factors involved in teh UK situation, but it's weird we don't know these things. I expect the US tariff fuckery will make people think about it more, but not that much more as most people seem to be doubling down on neoliberalism via globalisation without the US.

            • KJT 5.3.1.2.1.1

              Those keen on building up our war capability, fail to consider that we lack one of the most essential elements.

              Shipping logistic support. No gas, no transport, as Germany found in 1945, means no winning a war.

              The Navy recognised that when they bought a logistics ship, which cost a lot more than a subsidy to local ships, after our NZ owned and manned coastal fleet was decimated in the 90's. Tankers were owned overseas as long as I can remember.

              Note the first ship into Lyttelton after the earthquakes, was our last NZ owned and manned cargo ship, (apart from the rail ferries).

              Overseas owners and Governments, will not be prioritising NZ in either wars or major disasters.

        • SPC 5.3.1.3

          Not that I know of.

          Some investments are subject to a 'national interest test' where the Minister of Finance can consider the potential risks of a transaction to New Zealand's national interest when deciding whether to grant consent to invest.

          This test applies automatically to investments in 'strategically important businesses' (for example, significant telecommunications and electricity networks) and those with significant foreign government involvement (recognising that governments may invest for strategic, rather than commercial, reasons).

          https://www.treasury.govt.nz/information-and-services/regulation/systems-we-steward/overseas-investment-regulatory-system

  5. Ed1 6

    There appears to be too much money chasing too little information in the far-right (and possibly no integrity, but that is a separate issue). See:

    https://centrist.nz/media-mps-out-of-step-with-voters-on-treaty-principles-bill-data-deep-dive/

    The so-called "Facts" are said to come from :

    https://thefacts.nz/treaty-principles-poll-3/

    and it is asserted that the polling is from Curia, sponsored by the ACT Party last December – there is also much made of the data coming from "polling from Curia, Freshwater Strategy, Verian, and others," but a conspicuous lack of any verification of anything. David Farrar may not be happy at the implication that he can produce poll results to fit any prejudices and pre-conceptions – lying is never supposed to become public, and certainly not raise again the spectre of Dirty Tricks . .

    The question is how long before the website or at least this article gets pulled?

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