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As I was consuming my morning repast, this emerged from my toaster. What can it mean?
https://markdoran.files.wordpress.com/2021/04/prince-ph-toast.jpg
You need a different horse.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/wellington/300284386/thousands-sign-petition-in-support-of-striking-wellington-bus-drivers
please consider signing this petition
Done.
I can't see any reasonable person agreeing with First Capital. With the council offering to top up the wages, all this Aussie company had to do was honour the conditions.
Clearly they are not good faith bargaining, more looking to trim the balance sheet so as to sell the business.
A TV series for the Labour Party, specifically Grant Robertson who believes that renters can 'just move to a different rental' when their current one gets to expensive. Tone deaf, out of touch, a one percenter if there ever was one.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/karl-puschmann-tvnzs-renters-is-everything-wrong-with-nz/DN4ALYS5VVT3PRXZAQYTHDAPXI/
I have watched it a couple times. Some property managers seem to go over to the property when it is too late to help the landlord or the tenant.
Those who smash up their home have issues and intervention is required.
as do the ones that think you can rent a burned out property while its being renovated. 🙂
the whole serious is fucked up lowest common denominator television.
Also file this under 'we don't know how lucky we have been, still are' but rest assured that Government knows that it got elected by luck and luck alone.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-coronavirus-how-a-family-fled-and-returned-to-miq-facility-in-auckland/CBDHTOHBHO3I5YLCA324OIKUCE/
Do you think the family was related to the Michael Woodhouse mystery homeless man in the upmarket Auckland MIQ hotel?
Maybe the 'luck alone' has to do with the luck that the National mob were dishonest, incompetent and idiotic.
Remember Michelle Boag releasing confidential information? Was that luck for Labour? Or bad luck for Hamish Walker who took one for the team while Nikki Kaye decided to quietly disappear? And Michael Woodhouse, no way would he have been in the loop of the info leak, parked himself in the background. And the good luck the 'enquiry' was a snow job.
Peter, how does trotting out the Labour party line about National excuse the fact that this government has been a sick joke from day one?
Labour is actually the government, and thus they and they alone have the responsibility. National is just the opposition (and Boag not even that).
Transparency and honesty, I think Ardern promised. Yeah, right.
Anyone who wants to call the government a 'sick joke from day one' is quite welcome to do it. To do it on the back of a relative handful of human stuff ups amongst the many millions of actions and interactions around covid and the border is silly.
Labour is the government and do have responsibility. National is just the opposition because they were thought to be incapable, dishonest and not trustworthy. The half pie enquiry into the Boag affair meant that National was helped to a huge 25.6% in the election and their supporters didn't have to confront the level of scumminess in the midst of the party.
The sick joke is that House prices, Rents and the number if people in slum hotels are rising at record rates…
Labour governing for the land owning classes…
I don't think they are a sick joke, but then i am well housed, well fed and clothes.
What i think they are is opportunistic and right now they make it up as they go along, and even then i don't blame them for that either as the Covid Pandemic will be the gift that keeps on giving for a few more years.
I also don't for a moment believe that we will ever go back to pre Lockdown 4 25th May 2020.
But what i do believe is that they will not tackle any of the social ills they should tackle.
Drug policies
racist drug polices, incrimination of other non violent/criminal behaviour, refusal to treat drug abuse as a health issue rather then a criminal one etc.
On that, total failure, in fact if Little could he would make the whole shebang worse.
Housing
we have currently up and down the country enough people to house a full scale mid size town and this government is going lalalalaala and keeps throwing money at it as if there is no tomorrow.
Total failure
Health and the inaction of Labour
we have new borns with cleft palates put on waiting lists, we have toddlers in need of cardiac surgery on waiting lists and we are currently crowdfunding for beds at Starships ICU
failure.
So what we have here is an inability from Labour to try anything other then the tried and trued that has not worked before. We have labour hide behind referendums in which senior Labour Politians did not state an opinion cause 'i don't want to influence the referendum" Well thanks a bunch dear.
If you ask willy nilly people on the street who boag is – and i actually had to look her up – they will not know. But ask them if they know someone who can't find a rental, or who is on a waiting list, or who is in prison due to racists and outdated criminal laws and chances are they can help you there.
So its not a sick joke, its just a bunch of worn out people that since helen clark never had to earn a day of living in the private market and who have very little ideas about how they affect the country in day to day live. Out of touch and somewhat callous, and devoid of courage. And now they can't hide behind an opposition bench, they can't hide behind coalition partners they are actually all alone responsible for what they do. So who cares about National, they can do no more then Labour could under John Key. Flap their wings and be impotent.
We have a joke for that in Germany : The operation was successful but the patient died. That to me is Labour today, and we are the patient.
Germany (a wealthy country with competent political leadership and excellent health infrastructure) sadly has 973 COVID-19 deaths per million. NZ sadly has 5 deaths per million.
I hope that this pandemic has peaked, and reckon a 'joke' involving a patient dying might be considered a bit tasteless right now, even in Germany.
Germany is also a country in the middle of europe and nz is an island in a vast empty ocean.
all those apples and oranges….all fruit.
Comparisons may be fruitless, and yet there's no place I'd rather be.
Funny that.
PCC, thankfully not everyone shares your opinion. Some opposition National party MPs are jokes, taking their queue from Collins' eyebrows (what a 'leader').
National party MPs are incapable of governing for all NZers – it's simply not in their DNA. Everyone understands that now – National party voters always knew it.
Drowsy, we agree on one thing at least: some National mps are jokes. And yes, those eyebrows….
national mps are jokes, and in saying that the same thing could be said about labour during the john key years, they too managed to fail to win an election till they threw J.A at the electorate. So who will be the saviour of National? Maybe it will be tax cuts, opening weed to business and recreational use, and such. And guess what people would vote for that.
And neither eyebrows nor teeth should ever be cause for a joke.
Yes, they government that promised us transparency has been anything but. Our isolation and low population alone saved us.
I doubt Ashley Bloomfield could even lie straight in bed. So many cover ups and downright lies (remember his and the governments lies about PPE?)
This Labour administration has been a joke from start to finish. Kiwibuild. Airport light rail. Fast trains to Hamilton and Tauranga. A Minister of Health that hid under the bed in Dunedin (when not out breaking lockdown). The list is endless.
A Minister of Health who hid his under his bed for months while being part of the establishing of an internationally acknowledged success in dealing with the pandemic?
Of course it wasn't perfect – you weren't involved with your knowledge and expertise. Oh, and people, human beings, were involved in complex and new situations.
Your tone smacks of sadness at missing the hole in one, the home run that would have put a smile on your face to ram home 'the government is hopeless' narrative.
Are you sad tens of thousands didn't die to give you some real bullets?
" Our isolation and low population alone saved us."
Please , there were 1000s arriving every day at the major airport.
And low population ? Ask Ireland with around the same population of 5-6 million and 4800 covid deaths.
Taking the wrong steps in Victoria after an outbreak sourced from a MIQ hotel let to 800 deaths.
Elimination wasnt the starting strategy but very quickly did become that, while National moved to a sort of minimization- open the borders, bring back the students and other useless ideas. if the National party was in power we would be having a 3rd wave of hundreds of dead as we moved in winter
Ireland, part of england? That Ireland? Or is there an Ireland in the middle of an ocean with nothing other around them then water that you could just close off to the public and be done with? lol lol lol lol
yeas and orange is a fruit, and an apple is too, and yet they are so different.
We went into lockdown to prevent our healthcare system from collapsing. Elimination was not what the public was told, we bring in daily cases from overseas, so we have eliminated nothing. We are one infected person away from disaster, considering that our health care system collapsed without Covid, but just due to past and current underfunding by respective governments.
Which part of Ireland 5-6 million people.
I wondered before but now you have a tirade of falsehoods. Its pointless engaging with with a fact less froth
Im convinced as you get older the more to the right you will move so that by Hoskings age you could be his alter ego
Honey Ireland is part of England and the EU. Ireland could not as we did just close the door to everyone as they were not the only ones to decide. I mean yeah for some details don't matter, but that is a bit thick.
But hey, here is Vietnam, borders China, Laos, Kambodia, 90 million plus people, an 'emerging' nation.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-australia-lowy-idUSKBN29W311
flattening the curve
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2020/06/coronavirus-a-timeline-of-how-new-zealand-flattened-the-curve-and-beat-covid-19.html
suddenly flattening the curve not good enough anymore – elimination is now the goalpost.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300185880/flattening-curve-was-not-enough-jacinda-ardern-talks-about-new-zealands-covid-response-us-elections-in-ap-interview
currently we have active 32 cases – all from overseas thus imported
from todays NZ herald.
Before you accuse me of falsehoods let me confim to you that you are looking like the fool that you have shown yourself to be. I generally only speak about things i have seen / read in fairly reputable news organs. I can link to pretty much any of my ideas/opinion for support. As for insulting other posters by throwing a wee tantrum on the floor, that also says more about you then it will ever say about me.
now i am bored with you. bye.
No Ireland is not part of England.
The island of Ireland is home to Northern Ireland, and the Republic of Ireland which is completely independent of the UK.
United Kingdom is made up of England Scotland Wales (the island of Great Britain) and Northern Ireland.
The island of Ireland comprises the Republic of Ireland, which is a sovereign country, and Northern Ireland, which is part of the United Kingdom.
Indeed sometimes people from not english countries take "English" as synonimous with "UK" the government, like for me. "England" is the UK much to the chagrin of Scotland. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-56806107
We would never refer to as Scotland as the UK or Ireland as the UK.
But yes, consider the shitshow that was /is England then one can assume that other countries that are also in the UK who are not England have an issue. That is what i was referring to.
also Ireland and the EU
https://europa.eu/european-union/about-eu/countries/member-countries/ireland_en
lol Great way to piss off republicans and unionists at the same time, that.
didn't they. And one still is in the EU and the other isnt, and the it seems that history will repeat itself again, cause 'england'.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-56664378
We are one infected person away from disaster. We are one tremendous South Island earthquake away from disaster. We are one nuclear weapon away from disaster.
The health care system collapsed without Covid? The system isn't perfect, to say it has collapsed is total and obvious rubbish.
Fortunately it wasn't allowed to collapse. Go back a year and a bit. Don't close the borders, don't have lockdowns, don't wear masks … How would that have gone with collapsing the health system?
are you feeling safer today with the health care system of today then you felt a year ago?
we are one case that gets out away from a major fucking disaster as the current mutations are worse and we would have heard if the government would have build a hospital, trained nurses free of charge, created space for an eventual outbreak and such. We got 100 ventilators since. We are still short on nurses, beds, space, and probably ppe, as i have not heard of the breaking ground to a facility that could produce these for us here in NZ.
Definitely. A year ago NZers were dying daily from COVID-19 and that was causing much anxiety. In the last 7 months there's been 1 COVID-19 death.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/new-zealand/
During and after gearing up for COVID-19, my GP and local public hospital continue provide excellent service – can't praise/thank them enough.
By a fluke (!), we’ve also almost eliminated the flu.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/nz-is-virtually-flu-free-but-heres-why-you-still-need-your-jab/3XPHU662SGQDVELGQIELXCS2AM/
Peter. CHCH "Our isolation and low population alone saved us".
I am sorry Peter this is absolute bullshit. There were many decisions made in crisis mode that saved us. Closing the boarder to China, major lockdown (hard and early) other wise rates of covid would have sky rocketted. Paying the wage subsidy which has ensured many businesses have survived. Setting up in great haste MIQ for returning Kiwis and reviewing every breach and putting things in. place to prevent them, Ordering a review on contact tracing (Dr Verrall, now a member of cabinet ) and getting it up to speed, ramping up laboratory testing. Locking down when necessary and closing our boarders recently to India where rates of Covid are catastrophic. Oh yes and buying a number vaccines with the roll out underway.
This is why we have had very little covid in our community and very few deaths. Mistakes will occur, because that is life. If you think about your own life over the last week, I imagine you have made some mistakes. i have too. Impossible not too.
So your claim that isolation and small pop = good covid result is nonsence
Endless? Go on, give us another four or five……
It was back in May last year. hardly anyone knew what we know now.
A single family here or there wasnt going to change much, it was the science driven 4.5 week level 4 lockdown and the measures that followed.
But you do have your fairytale stories of the big bad wolf coming to get us
lol
and guess what you would not know today where it not for someone asking.
Lucky, we are so lucky, and some are really happy that they are never told just how lucky they are lest they suddenly felt less lucky. lol
I should be so lucky, lucky lucky lucky – lol
R.I.P. Kevin McKeown from the Bay City Rollers.
A weird piece of Scottish pop culture, and a wee breakthrough here.
Always thought they should match up with The Nolans.
In 1976 the Bay City Rollers played at the Auckland Town Hall. There was a rule against standing on the seats; of course a lot of the girls in the crowd proceeded to stand on the seats, until a goon from Eden Security punched one of them.
There was, naturally, great anger directed at Eden Security after that.
The Bay City Rollers and The Nolan Sisters?…I never in a million years would have thought of putting those two acts together, but as you have mentioned it I have thought about (briefly) and it sounds not quite right, what makes you think they would have been a good match .
Just relistened to 'I'm in the mood for Dancing',not too bad, but hasn't really stood the test of time too well..but I probably danced to this at some school Disco back then, so who am I too judge?
I believe the quantity, quality and efficacy of reviews needs to be reviewed
Do they provide value for money? Who will review the reviewers?
Why the re re reviewers …..and im sure they can ascertain whether its all been value for money, subject to review of course.
Being a consultant is one of the most lucrative jobs one can get in one’s field. All it takes is knowing the right people, having a glossy business card, a good sales pitch and loads of confidence. One doesn’t have to be particularly good at anything, just use the right jargon and say the things the ‘customer’ wants to hear. Once one is ‘in’, one’s ‘in’ for as long as one likes. That said, there are very few genuinely good ones around, at least, AFAIK, but I’ve met a few duds in my professional life, some real shockers.
Good or bad, purpose served.
Peter. CHCH "Our isolation and low population alone saved us".
I am sorry Peter this is absolute bullshit. There were many decisions made in crisis mode that saved us. Closing the boarder to China, major lockdown (hard and early) other wise rates of covid would have sky rocketted. Paying the wage subsidy which has ensured many businesses have survived. Setting up in great haste MIQ for returning Kiwis and reviewing every breach and putting things in. place to prevent them, Ordering a review on contact tracing (Dr Verrall, now a member of cabinet ) and getting it up to speed, ramping up laboratory testing. Locking down when necessary and closing our boarders recently to India where rates of Covid are catastrophic. Oh yes and buying a number vaccines with the roll out underway.
This is why we have had very little covid in our community and very few deaths. Mistakes will occur, because that is life. If you think about your own life over the last week, I imagine you have made some mistakes. i have too. Impossible not too.
So your claim that isolation and small pop = good covid result is nonsence
and last but least….
all the people that stayed at home, all the people that closed the shops to their businesses knowing full well tht they will not have one to come back too, all the nurses, all the doctors, all the people that donated food, all of us that did all the right things, and the many many sacrifices so many made.
the best intention of government is worth fuck all when you have say a population like the US has.
And as i posted before Vietnam with a population of 93 million and surrounded by three countries one of them china had virtually the same number of infected, recovered and death – their dead numbering at 35 while ours stand at 26, and like us all their cases are imported ones.
good.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/man-sentenced-to-jail-for-rape-after-removing-condom-without-consent/NVRGH4GJNZLIEKSENRIDUHZJMI/
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/441093/taranaki-aquifer-contaminated-50-times-more-than-acceptable
…"They're consistent with a local concentration, a local high-level concentration as opposed to normal land use.
"Previously, I've seen concentrations as high or higher, but only around facilities or factories that store such pesticides."
The regional council undertook an aerial search and questioned landowners in an effort to find the source of the contamination, but drew a blank and eventually abandoned its investigation.
…Barry Prophet hoped the source could be located.
"It certainly isn't good. They are going to have to find out what, where and why?"
He had his suspicions. "Probably drums were just thrown away back a few years ago."
It could help to provide information if a highish monetary reward was offered for information leading to location – 'no names, no pack drill'.
Back a bit in 2016, this was published. It's timely to look again at the NZsituation.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/306913/land-of-sludge-and-money
As a matter of interest have a look at the long list various chemicals that might be present in the soil where there has been a factory making chemical/agricultural products:
https://www.trc.govt.nz/assets/Documents/Environment/Monitoring-Industry/MR2015-DowAgroSciences.pdf (search/find – difenoconazole)
Not only a complete shambles, but an "utter shambles"! Witness the breathtakingly untrustworthy Bishop and Collins parading their feeble grasp on reality for all to see.
and Vietnam which has our numbers in cases plus 9 people more dead (grand total of 35) then us and is a country that is not an island and has 90+ million people living and working there.
I know an inconvenient truth for some, but I think they deserve a round of applaus and as far as governments go in times of a pandemic i think they deserve another round of applause cause these guys did well.
🙂
Reckon all governments/populations that have done well so far deserve recognition
Maybe certain populations in Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos have developed a some immunity to the virus, if, as is supposed, the transmission from bat to human occurred in that country which is the home of the bat to which the virus is linked. I understand that in the northern part of Vietnam there is frequent interaction between humans and the bats, as the local population enter the caves in which the bats live to collect their guano for fertiliser.
https://scroll.in/article/986077/viruses-similar-to-sars-cov-2-have-been-circulating-for-decades-we-found-one-in-cambodia
Then again Vietnam have developed over the recent past a response to pandemics very similar to that which our Govt initiated in March last year.
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-exemplar-vietnam
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Unless someone can link to a credible study that shows natural immunity i would say that is a far fetched idea.
The reason i point to Vietnam as a success rather then us or Taiwan is simply the physical location.
Like we had it easiest among the many, for us to close the border was no issue as we literally just had to prevent airplanes from landing/same with boats. We don't have to worry about landborders that can be porous and hard to manage and controll.
I also point to Vietnam as a bigger success story as they actually continued to work as normally as possible inclusive building production facilities for PPE and such, while we here are still crowd funding ICU beds for Starship Hospital.
I don't consider NZ a success in the 'combat' against Covid, i consider us to be some of the luckiest people to have been physically where we are, and since then we have continued to be lucky. And i hope that we get lucky over and over again, cause we need it .