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The saga of Louisa Wall vs the Labour stalinist faction: "After nine years as the MP, Ms Wall has thrown in the towel over what's been called a "vicious" in-house fight for her seat." https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/louisa-wall-has-list-seat-deal-see-her-return-parliament-despite-bowing-labour-s-manurewa-candidate-race
"It's understood there've been moves against the MP at a national and local level, with two other nominations. Ms Wall missed out on promotion when Labour came into power despite securing gay marriage, its only big win in opposition".
"1 NEWS understands a deal has been signed off, moving her higher up the party list, ensuring her return to parliament. Tonight, Labour announced Arena Williams has been selected as the party's candidate for Manurewa. The lawyer and mum-of-two is of Te Aitanga-a-Mahaki, Tūhoe and Ngai Tahu descent." And a lawyer.
Watching the story One News ran last night, I was intrigued to see Matt McCarten appear twice – carefully avoiding any reference to stalinism. Well done, stealth is essential. Dame Marilyn Waring: "She'd better be high enough on the list!"
I imagined the spectre of an elderly sisterhood marching against the Labour Party, banners waving, during the election campaign, may have flickered briefly in the tiny wee minds of the stalinists, before they reassured themselves that no, that couldn't happen.
Linda Clark this morning on RNZ, talking with Richard Harman and Jim Mora: "Helen Clark kept files on all sorts of people." Well, obviously. Stalinism 1.01 😆
Stalinism
[ stah-luh-niz-uh m ]SHOW IPA
noun
the principles of communism associated with Joseph Stalin, characterized especially by the extreme suppression of dissident political or ideological views, the concentration of power in one person, and an aggressive international policy.
Yeah right /cue Tui advert
But doesn't Wall herself go to the extremes at times? She could be being hoist on her own petard!
Louisa Wall has been prominent in her support for marriage equality and transgender rights. Are those the "extremes" to which you refer?? Do tell…
The thing the Labour government needs is support for David Parker who is overworked and one of the few competent Ministers they have, and also for Andrew Little who has been pretty ineffectual in the role of Justice, Courts, and Treaty of Waitangi stuff.
The Labour Party needs more lawyers. Mostly that's because law is the core business of Parliament.
Arena Williams brings Auckland networks that the Labour party otherwise doesn't have.
You'll also notice Kris Fa'afoi going onto the list in Mana. That's a majority of over 10,000.
The replacement there is Barbara Edmonds. Barbara is a bona fide legal tax specialist. It's pretty apparent that Deborah Russell hasn't made much policy headway in tax reform at all, so Labour definitely needs help in that department.
So no, it's not a Leninist conspiracy. It's just targeted renewal, in safe seats, to get more of what the Labour Party needs in parliament.
You should expect to see more renewal movement in the next 2 months.
that makes more sense. Doesn't explain why there was conflict, but does show up the TVNZ piece as useless.
Dr Webb is a pretty high profile lawyer, as are Kiri Allan and Willow-Jean Prime, not to mention the Deputy PM. Assuming all return in 2020, Labour will be very well served. Getting more talent through is very important, but it's not like the current caucus is bereft.
Also, I think Little has been excellent when NZ First has let him.
I accept that premise Ad but wonder if it can't be achieved in a less divisive way. Deborah Russell has been finding her feet this term in government and suspect she's just coming into her own now. Helen Clark had a low profile during her first term in parliament too.
I think it was Keith Holyoake who used to warn incoming newbies to "hold their noses during their first term and learn how parliament operates before jumping into the fray" – words to that effect anyway. Wise advice given the many complexities of parliamentary life.
I'm curious about the underlying reasons for the Louisa Wall affair. On the surface it smacks of a clash between ideological/religious conservatism and a whiff of identity politics in the shape of a strong Maori woman MP who also happens to be gay.
It is said that Louisa does not suffer fools gladly. Helen Clark didn't either but she learnt to manage her 'affliction' as I can personally attest to… when once many years ago I decided to be too clever by half at a local meeting. She put me in my place neatly and without rancour. A lesson well learnt that I never repeated. 😀
Oops… Holyoake's comment was "breathe through your noses".
Okay. Some might say the former is more appropriate but………
Honestly this is the best time to cut out the low performers.
At 55%+ polling Labour in parliament is about to be flooded with a whole phalanx of new MPs.
With that volume of intake you want to ensure there aren't any weak ones; any low performers who aren't achieving much.
And anyone except Labour Ministerial staff would accept that most of the current crop aren't that good. Only insiders would recognise a Labour Minister beyond the top five.
This is a once-in-a-generation opportunity to not only invigorate the Labour Party – it's an opportunity to get the talent pipeline so good that National is waiting until 2029 before it even gets a sniff.
We are going to tilt this country for good.
'On the surface' from what little has come out of the Thorndon bubble over recent years it seems to have far more to do with being a team player than which social groupings the person may belong to. Low cabinet ranking also a function of that despite obvious smartness and ability to reach across parties when progressing that signature achievement.
My (third hand) understanding is that she was pushing some identity politics stuff too hard and insulting people simply for holding a different opinion.
That is what I suspected. It's not the first time it has happened in the Labour Party either.
Back in the 1970s and early 1980s there was a small group of women who were overly aggressive with their views. [The meme 'identity politics' was not part of the vocabulary then.] Instead of attracting other women to the cause they actually turned quite a few of them off. I was one of them.
You don't win battles by forcing your views on to other people. You gently persuade them over time.
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The Labour Party needs more pragmatic idealists. Lawyers per se, but they do not necessarily have the sense to go with driving good laws. They normally just work within them. Workers from all levels of society who are thoughtful and practical and care about people and our small business that binds the nation are needed.
So a mix of politician types is needed, provided they can see beyond neolib to the field beyond. They would go to where the grass is actually greener and there is enough for all who are keen enough to walk over and chew their cuds, and take time to talk about getting opportunities and setting limits and bringing the people to education on how we need to live in the 21st century and find value in ourselves and satisfaction as we do work within a thoughtful, kind, sustainable society.
Could Labour manage this? Might take them out of their well-paid comfort zone.
lol – the thing about lawyers and politics is principles. They don't have any. And no – that's not a gratuitous swipe. Many a lawyer will punt for the legal path over the unlawful path, even where the unlawful path is principled and the legal one an arse that might leave you with an uneasy conscience that needs salved to escape or deny a world of regret. Just ask Andrew Little.
The lawyers that have been chosen for these two seats are lawyers of strong principle. You need to look at their work to demonstrate how they apply principle within policy to decisionmaking frameworks.
If you're making a swipe against Minister Little as a lawyer as well as Minister, for being unlawful, you need to back that up.
A very good lawyer does not necessarily a good politician make, Ad. That's my point.
If a lawyer is presented with a situation where they can be correct in law, they will tend to let that outweigh any principled actions that might contravene the law.
Taking a legally correct route in relation to wildcat strikes over health and safety may or may not ring any bells for you.
Yes agree with that.
…Louisa Wall vs the Labour stalinist faction:
I haven't seen any informed explanation of what's behind this dispute, but somehow you can confidently put it down to Wall being in conflict with a Stalinist faction within Labour. Is that based on some evidence you've seen and we haven't? Or is it just the Internet having no shortage of blowhards?
Or is it an observer deducing the theoretical possibility on the basis of the behavioural evidence cited? Gosh, so many questions, so little time to explore the answers.
"Wall was a list MP before winning the seat after Labour veteran George Hawkins retired in 2011. She is best known for getting the marriage equality bill passed into law. She also chairs the health select committee and is a former Silver Fern and Black Fern."
"She received high-profile support this week from Dame Marilyn Waring who, writing in the Herald, said Wall was a national and international figure with a major profile. "She is highly regarded by a large number of significant women leaders, by our nation's sporting community, by community activists and by the nation's LGBTIQ community."" https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12335909
"Waring rejected reported comments that Wall was a "polarising" figure in the Labour caucus. "I was subject to the same criticisms," said the former National MP. "Time has a way of showing that critical thinkers on the inside improve a Government's performance, especially when there are weak opposition parties in Parliament." Labour president Claire Szabo will be running the selection meeting."
So you will be dead keen to provide your own explanation of all this, eh? Go for it. Explain why Labour's president felt the necessity to travel to the local selection and take charge of their process. Then explain why stalinists never do total control (so that proves she ain't stalinist).
Is that based on some evidence you've seen and we haven't?
So that's a "No" then. Could have saved yourself a few paras.
Why use a few well chosen words when you can bore for England?
Or is it an observer deducing the theoretical possibility on the basis of the behavioural evidence cited?
No, it's clearly not that, as it was asserted as fact, not offered as a theoretical possibility. "Behavioural evidence" was also lacking.
So you will be dead keen to provide your own explanation of all this, eh?
Er, no, I won't. Not without some evidence to base an explanation on. That's my point.
Okay, I'll have a go at that. 3.2.1.2 at 11:42 am
Did you give it an actual go and fail to select the text that's the quote and then click the button with the quote marks (it's centre right, between the smiley face and the Source button)? Or is it all just a bit too much of a new tricks/old dog situation?
Not ruling out the latter possibility totally, but I actually forgot. I'm doing concreting concurrently, so I come & scan comments in between stints of that.
I did make the decision to change, and will enact that. Maybe not today tho. And to the other couple of commentors above, I call it as I see it. I did cite the evidence that made me see it that way.
Are you trying to suggest that subjective impressions aren't valid in political commentary? Better have a go at Andre, then, whose technicolour impressions of Trump often colour the scenery here. But no, I bet you aren't serious or consistent in your judgments. Just doing knee-jerk stuff, brain disengaged.
Best to own your subjective impressions as what they are rather than dress them up as 'evidence'. Nothing wrong with "I believe".
I'm trying to suggest the readability of what you contribute would be improved by making it clearer what content is yours and what is quoted from elsewhere. With improved readability there is likely to be improved understanding and engagement and less sniping snark.
When it comes to the situation in Manurewa with Louisa Wall and the broader Labour party, I have no particular information or insight or experience that might make my reckons have any value. Nor have I any stake in the outcome. So on that topic, any comment I might make would be just random internet noise, which I don't really want to add to.
Yeah, all good. Just to clarify to you & Sacha, owning personal impressions is a good point but evidence cited in support of a theory is something else again. It's a valuable political lesson when indicating a dark side. Just as comments here keep stressing how Trump's banalities indicate a dark side.
History has shown us that the dark side of the left is more of a threat to the people than the dark side of the right. Last time we addressed this point I proved it by citing how all four of the greatest political mass-murderers in the 20th century originated in leftist political organisations. Those who fail to learn from history are condemned to repeat it.
You do not like the left. We get that. Sadly it means you reach for Stalin or Idi Amin at the slightest sign of unease. Perhaps you would be happier somewhere like Kiwibog?
At this point I usually remind folks that I share leftist values, ideals, aspirations. You may recall some of those instances. I'm motivated to help raise consciousness around the typical ways leftists defeat themselves. I believe doing so enhances the common good. If they were to figure it out by themselves, I wouldn't have to.
Re Kiwibog, the miasma produced by the political ecology there always seems too lame, toxic often, distasteful otherwise. Rightists ought to be able to do better but never seem to even try…
Last time we addressed this point I proved it by citing how all four of the greatest political mass-murderers in the 20th century originated in leftist political organisations.
Indeed. How do you know when a political philosophy has gone too far?
It is a question of boundaries, and on this the right we understand that racial superiority and fascism put a player out of bounds. On the left it seems the more radical and disruptive the idea, the more virtuously it's treated; which makes the left very unlikeable at times.
Didn't quite follow that, can you try a rephrasing of the point. Trust seems to be the achilles heel in leftist political orgs (back-stabbing) but the chaos in National currently suggests it may be rife with factionalism too. In the USA the right seems to have become likewise riven with factions in recent years.
In the old days factions were identified via ideology. Not easy to do that nowadays. If political psychologists weren't useless an explanation deriving from depth psychology would be available.
Hitler. Leftish?
Gadaffi saying he was going to "hunt terrorists house to house " prompted the UN no fly zone in Libya that culminated in the barbaric hunting and killing of Gadaffi "We came, we saw , he died" And the nation destroying chaos that is now Libya.That was Obama/Clinton
Now we have Trump
"US President Donald Trump on Saturday claimed that many Secret Service agents were "just waiting for action'' and ready to unleash "the most vicious dogs, and the most ominous weapons, I have ever seen"
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/300024659/trump-threatens-to-set-vicious-dogs-on-george-floyd-protesters-at-white-house
Time for the UN Security Council to be involved? Or the Responsibility to Protect (R2P) to be invoked?
In a parallel universe Xi says "Trump must go "
And promises arms and funding to freedom fighters in Minneapolis
"I stand with the American people "says Putin
Ominous weapons????
Is Trump going to nuke them????
Or maybe twitter them!!!
Maybe he's planning to get his Space Farce team onto it and deploy their new Super Duper Missile on them.
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/trumps-super-fast-and-super-duper-missile-confusion-2020-5?r=US&IR=T
Nice Andre
I like this quote from that article—
"Trump is well known for serving up nonsensical word salads, and this was no exception,” Reif said."
Or maybe the ominous weapon is Covid!!!
Don't underestimate what Trump is building in receptive minds, and look at him as a sideshow obscuring the action behind the theatre curtain.
Easy to forget this is the employed clown not the circus owners.
People are so easily distracted by the big red
hatnose.Leftist & rightist mainstreamers: no way! Over our dead bodies!
Yeah, probably.
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/03/a-green-reboot-after-the-pandemic/
Stating the obvious doesn't work with mainstreamers. They know they've got the numbers to make denial and resistance effective.
Mainstreamers: Look, we've been rolling our eyes at this stuff for half a century. Who cares about future generations? Only the Greens, and they don't matter.
Yeah, way to go. Ignore the political left & right. They're determined to remain clueless forever.
4.9% / 5.1%
That reboot better start looking attractive.
Labourites starting to get nervous 😉
🙂 🙂 🙂
Dennis, I hope you don't mind but I reformatted your comment. I find how you format comments now makes it hard to read and understand what you are saying, so I wanted to see if separating out your words from the quotes made a difference.
Works way better for me, thanks.
Dennis, there is a button with quote marks on the editor toolbar when you are assembling your comments. Please use it.
oh good. Made a big difference to me too.
Okay, I'll have a go at that. Looks like it introduces more space around the quotes and I can see how it could seem more easy to read to some. I'm habituated to traditional denser text formatting & probably need to get over it.
When I first started reading leftist writing it was the late 1960s. I couldn't believe how long their paragraphs were! Eyes glazing over before I got even half-way and I'd been reading constantly all my life so was adept and routinely scored above 95% in English exams. No wonder they never got traction with the masses…
Thank you. Comprehension on screen is lower than in print without extra spacing.
That's interesting. No, I don't mind that alteration, and am sympathetic to the problem you encounter. My style recycles traditional print format, and dates from the '80s – I agree new tech requires communication styles to evolve. I will take this advice on board. Will see if I can adopt that new style.
Thanks Dennis. I found it much easier to get the nuance in what you were saying once I could easily separate the quotes from your own words.
I've started writing a post in response 🙂
future shocks will eventually exceed the capacity of governments, financial institutions, and corporate crisis managers to respond.
That's taken as a read. But what is their collective responsive capabilities when we're talking about the end of capitalism (which any non-growth economic model entails)?
Corporations + government + financial institutions fighting for their existence as entities (ie, the people who benefit from their existence fighting) versus a largely dis-empowered populace in the path of those future shocks becoming increasingly distracted by just trying to stay alive …
They hang on for the first few rounds, and the odds move in their favour….until climate wipes them out alongside the rest of us.
Lotsa fuckery going on.
https://twitter.com/JoyAnnReid/status/1266741059163389952
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1266741059163389952.html
https://twitter.com/Freeyourmindkid/status/1266598693647638528
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1266598693647638528.html
edit:
https://twitter.com/whartonrigby/status/1266200742727016449
That footage of the guy in black wearing a gas mask calmly smashing windows was very chilling, night of broken crystal indeed.
COINTELPRO.
The boot fits.
https://twitter.com/Cooperstreaming/status/1266734581538893826
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-economy-crashing-quote/
https://twitter.com/AthenaCloud/status/1266732638372593665
https://www.facebook.com/bobby.headbird/videos/10104359133179255/?d=n
How about starting the open mikes at a random time each day (maybe 8am pm 60mins) so that different people get to be the first poster?
Nah, it's fine the way it is. I've programmed the autoscroll to kick in if there's a green avatar at the top.
+100 scroll
Truth hurts. Best to avoid both. 😎
I just scroll past all posts by Dennis Frank …too long…usually irrelevant or a distraction from the real issues. Very close to trolling.
No you don't. You often respond, and agree more than disagree. Be honest!
I frequently disagree with Frank on things, but think gratitude is in order that we have people who will put up arguments whether we agree with them or not. Otherwise it's an echo chamber, and potentially a boring one.
I disagree with Bob most of the time but I like how he has arguments plural, not just the same one over and over (to which a therapist might be a better answer). Worst kind of echo chamber.
That's you added to the 2034 killer zinger list 😆
We had "Daily Review" which appeared around 5:30 pm Mon. to Fri., but it was canned at the start of Lockdown and hasn't reappeared.
Just seems to be you and me Anne, mourning the demise of Daily Review!
Me too, on a functional relevance basis. Often significant stuff emerges during the course of the day. Working commentators can't be expected to comment until after the evening meal.
The other functional point is that threads on open mike meander and new stuff gets lost to the attention of many readers once there's an abundance. Issues can therefore get a fresh start on the later platform.
I liked the review too even if I don't participate in it.
No, a few more people have commented on its demise.
What I liked about it is the opportunity to refresh the discussions at the end of the day or comment on a development that has come out of maybe the 6pm news. Add to that some of us don't always get the time to indulge at length during the day. Even retirees have other things to do.
I miss Daily Review too.
How about a rule that if you have commented on Open Mike after noon you are not allowed to bless Daily Review with your reckons? Might encourage fresh voices.
Same here. Bring back Daily Review please.
Meh. Daily Review just diluted threads and repeated stuff that was already covered in Open Mike. But maybe a Night Owls post would be good, from 8 pm
That’s my usual dinner time, 8:00 PM. I’d suggest a Midnight Oil (MO) post but then I’d have to schedule and monitor it 🙁
Midnight Oil Review. That'd be you, me and McFlock.
We could do worse.
🙂
Just scheduled a Post for tomorrow. Not my best ever, but I was long overdue for one. I’ve got too many half-finished ones and then I lose interest or they get overtaken by developments or events.
I totally understand, looking at my list of unfinished posts 😳 I'm trying to teach myself to put the posts up even if I am not completely satisfied with them.
Off to have a read now 🙂
reflecting on that a bit more. I started writing posts after covid hit and then not posting them because it was harder to tell in those early days what was useful or even ok to write*. Now it's more like yes I could say these things but is this what I really want to be saying? Do people want to be reading? What are we even doing? lol. I'm sure the election will sharpen my focus again.
*same with BLM right now too.
Covid was and still is hugely confusing and scary. I had many things on my mind but decided to stick closely to the facts and the science that was rapidly evolving. As soon as economics and politics became involved – they always go hand-in-hand – the story became murkier and harder to follow and comment on.
BLM is too emotionally charged to have a sensible conversation about on this blog IMHO. Whatever I’d say, it would not make one iota of difference to what’s happening and likely to be taken the wrong way as Taika Waititi has found out.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/121686071/george-floyd-taika-waititi-under-fire-for-black-lives-matter-comments
It makes it very hard to moderate, at times, but luckily, the commentariat has been exemplary 🙂
Bring on the Election, I say!
Me too.
How the Minister Of Truth (a.k.a. D Cummings) rewrites the past on his blog, to make himself seem ultra-prescient.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/30/dominic-cummings-boris-johnson-evil-geniuses-hardly-lazy-incompetent
A longish piece, but well worth sticking with.
John Wight has written an excellent article about the murder of George Floyd and the recurrent theme of racism in U.S history.
Born out of genocide, raised through slavery, the U.S. is an imperialist rogue state.
'Chauvin with his knee on the neck of a supine George Floyd was the acme of the evil of white supremacy. He was the overseer with his knee on the neck of a runaway slave. He was the the slaveowner’s whip, the lynch mob’s noose, the prison guard’s boot. In other words, Chauvin symbolised in those eight minutes the entire legacy and long history of racial oppression in country that was born in genocide and developed and nourished for two centuries on the back of the African slave trade."
The Murder of George Floyd — White Supremacy’s War on Black America Rolls on
Not a betting man (and I know it doesn’t portend anything) but occasionally I check the markets for the odds on our election.
They’ve all pretty much blown out for Labour in the week since Muller took over.
In the UK William Hill is paying 1/7 for Labour to form government after the election versus 9/2 for National.
In Australia, Sportsbet has Labour at 1.14 versus the Nats at 5.50. Going into Covid the odds were pretty even. They have opened a second market on the likelihood of Labour to govern in its own right (with no support partners regardless of whether they’re needed or not) currently paying 1.50 for Labour to NOT form government in its own right versus 2.25 for them to do so.
Oh fuck.
https://twitter.com/KillerMartinis/status/1266618525600399361
https://twitter.com/KillerMartinis/status/1266786725185142784
https://twitter.com/KillerMartinis/status/1266786161143537669
https://twitter.com/KillerMartinis/status/1266789497842393088
(Linda Tirado on TS)
Seems like the alt-right and white supremacists are seizing on a gifted opportunity to create trouble and further division in a troubled country.
https://www.courthousenews.com/minnesota-officials-link-arrested-looters-to-white-supremacist-groups/
Surprise…
https://twitter.com/CharlesPPierce/status/1266788911939977217
White supramacists and KKK types have been infiltrating US police forces for decades.
They have swapped the burning crosses and white hoods for badges and pepper spray.
Seems to me like a lot of angry young people of all different races involved in the chaos. But hey blame it on the alt-right.. or next why not Russia?
I think if you threw a stone in any crowd you'd hit another faction, there's even people with bows and arrows ffs. And the leader tweets while the place burns.
Because people that were very fine people, on both sides, right.
/
"Trump targets social media companies in new executive order "
From the Fox News politics front page (scan down) – runs as a news clip without it's own page. The presenter interviews a legal adviser to explore the viability of Trump's attempt.
He flags a likely constitutional issue (separation of powers) in respect of the question of whether the exec order is in breach of the act of congress he is attempting to get around.
He ends by saying Twitter needs to decide what it will do when it grows up. After alerting us to media policy inconsistency by Twitter (owner/managers) and citing examples to validate his reasoning.
So in a time of very challenging employment uncertainty the National Party wants the government to bring back the 90 day fire-at-will laws for medium and large employers. They want to increase uncertainty for stressed out NZ workers? Just who is advising these losers?
Mediocre business managers and owners who lack the ability to select good staff, that's who.
ACT wants a 12 month trial period and 3 year minumum wage freeze..
If these clowns had their way, we would have the US system of at will employment where you could be just sacked at any time for any reason, and that if you turned up at work and found your password didnt work, that meant you were sacked.
COVID has provided the once in a life time opputunity for employers and businesses to slash their wage bill by 20%.
a) The 90 day trial period is still there for employers with 19 or less people, as Labour didn't fulfill their promise to get rid of it.
b) Do you mind posting some stats on how many of your claimed workers were "fired at will" and how many got work they would have otherwise not got due to risk to the employer of them being crap without it?
Sad when we set the bar so low that employers will only take workers on if they can get rid of them.
That implies that workers are treated as disposable in this country and have no value.
As always, the onus on satisfactorily employing staff lies on the employer doing their due diligence during and after the interviewing process. If they fuck up, tough, they had their chance.
Having said that, I'm okay with a trial period, though not three months, more like a couple of weeks at most. Any employer that needs, or waits, until day 89 to find out it hasn't worked out is a bit of a wanker.
Background of the new police commissioner. Interesting interview in which his faith is mentioned numerous times but we don't find out exactly what it is based on. This and other articles have also outlined his career trajectory. While his background and education are nothing particularly unusual at some point he seems to have entered a career path that even the most competent could only dream about. Was he being groomed as a future commissioner and if so by whom ? Can’t quite put my finger on it but there is something that feels not quite comfortable?
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300003371/national-portrait-andrew-coster–top-cop
I was giving it a thought on what those with spare cash to buy shares with, what type of shares they will buy?
For some current share holders it will be like a crash, depending on what they have invested in
I expect people will still invest in residential property as people always need a home.
Commodities such as gold, lithium etc i.e. the elements of an electrical world.
Oil and airline shares were never any good for the planet.
There has to be a better way in extracting gold without the damage it causes.
The largest gold mines are rubbish dumps in developed countries.
National have picked Mike Butterick as their candidate for Wairarapa, a seat they hold.
In the pre-Covid days, you might remember the angry protest march on Parliament
by a group called "50 shades of green". This included signs calling the government "c***s", the "make Ardern go away" placards, MAGA caps, and suchlike.
The group is (was?) led by Butterick.
Here's his speech (I think from the same event).
It's a mixture of self-pity, whataboutery and special pleading, with the actual argument very difficult to discern. He seems like an excellent fit with National's existing caucus, in other words.
He does indeed. An "actual argument" is that the townies and their arts fucking festivals and delicatessens mainly leach off agriculture to survive.
Damn them for adding value. Milk powder forever!
Scoop forgot to add Mike's protest to his bio.
Space X mission launched this morning:
I know we are generally supposed to be opposed to private spaceflight, SpaceX and Elon Musk, but this was pretty impressive, and good to see something positive happen for a change.
Safer out in space than in the USA at present. And I would have thought a Covid free NZ pretty good news lately.
200 years.
https://twitter.com/ericabuddington/status/1266531249914601472
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1266531249914601472.html
Things are going well.
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1265839057994764288
https://twitter.com/dailydigger19/status/1266146984513191944
https://twitter.com/jeffgoodell/status/1266869845972463618
https://twitter.com/Gingersonfire/status/1266884702519955456
Jeez, got cops driving into people, there's footage of some shop owner being beaten to death by mob, batman, it's a real mess. I watched the doco LA92 a few months back but this is a whole new level of cray cray.
The headline of a failed state.
Gripped by disease, unemployment and outrage at the police, America plunges into crisis
[…]
“The threads of our civic life could start unraveling, because everybody’s living in a tinderbox,” said historian and Rice University professor Douglas Brinkley.
Barbara Ransby, a historian at the University of Illinois at Chicago and a longtime political activist, said the toll of the coronavirus outbreak made long-standing racial inequities newly stark. Then, images of police violence made those same disparities visceral.
http://archive.li/4p9JH (wapo)
There are always tensions. There have always been upset people and violence has happened.
The emotional state of the country is in an unusual place with the pandemic. The many media platforms means everyone has access to attitude forming material. Something dramatic happens and what you rely on is rationality, resilience, respect and trust in systems and leadership.
There has been burning in the streets over a couple of days. Over a couple of years there have been fires burning rationality, respect and trust. Welcome to Trump's America.
In the land of the free and the home of the brave, residents must stay inside their homes or the National Guard will shoot you.
https://www.twitter.com/tkerssen/status/1266921821653385225
"When the law not merely fails to guarantee the safety of life and property, but directly threatens both, the subject is absolved from obedience to it, and civil society collapses." (Paul Johnson: "The Offshore Islanders", 1972)
He was writing about the causes of the misleadingly-termed Great Rebellion which led to the English Civil War of the 1640s. But the sentiment is relevant in any age or society. By all means do what's necessary to curb out-of-town looters seizing chances for mayhem. That most emphatically does not include charging down a peaceful residential street loosing off missiles at people on their own properties going about their lawful occasions. State-supported terrorism doesn't altogether too strong a term for this appalling behaviour.
wow…
Isn’t it interesting how our woke media criticism the Nats supposed lack of diversity on it’s front bench but not the Greens lack of gender diversity? In their Party List there is one male and seven females.Would the woke media be criticising a front bench of seven men and one women?
is it interesting? I must admit I've yet to look up the definition of "woke", but I don't think I really care.
I'm confident it has nothing to do with our media. But yes, meh.
I did look up the meaning once and still don't understand what it means. I don't care either because its a silly word.
Standing for being an MP would be attractive to more men if there was more power attached to the job.
Our current Prime Minister is building the Labour Party list with young and talented women. Over three terms there's just a chance they will collectively get to redefine how power is exercised in Parliament full stop.
Just maybe it's time for that.
Three men in the top ten, ten in the top twenty. Want to know how long we had the reverse or less? Yeah, when the balance of power in society has been redressed the Greens can revisit their gender equity policy.
Meh. They are all capable and won their selection on merit. Wake me up to care about it when men are under-represented overall in positions of power and capable male candidates are routinely shoved aside to make room for time-serving female drones.
You are trolling and posted the same ‘query’ over at KB today. The answer was provided and to be more precise, it was answered in great detail by Graeme Edgeler on KB on 16 April. Something tells me that you do not care and do not have the slightest interest in the answer/explanation. It is a sure sign of you being a stupid little troll. You can prove me wrong, of course, but I won’t hold my breath.
Wise – "the Nats supposed lack of diversity on it’s front bench" does not suggest a good faith intent.
Well, since the purpose of trolling is to rark up responses, it has to be conceded that was actually a fairly successful troll.
The whetstone is always ready for trolls and with the upcoming Election my tolerance levels are lowering.
Scythe away..
Ooh that's right election season is banning season .
Lprent usually shows no mercy ,great fun to watch.
Actually what our "woke media" did was … wait for it … ask the National leader some questions. The horror, the mind control!
They couldn't have predicted the hilarity of the answers.
Global deaths in 2020 from different causes:
https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/2562261/
pretty crazy watching covid jump up like that.
But hey, it's just a flu, no need for worry. /sarc
‘This is how we feel every day’ – protester compares violence in LA to racial inequality in society
“This is what it’s like to walk down the streets. It’s chaos. I’m afraid every time a police officer drives past me.”
https://abc7.com/video/embed/?pid=6222259
I was a fairly surprised this evening to hear my 78yr old dad defending the protesters going nuts on the street. In his view it was because the same people were being treated the same way for multiple decades, it wasn't getting better, and they've had enough.
That's not usual for my dad who is usually a NZFirst voter.
Your dad is 4 years my senior, but I think a lot of us septuagenarians would share a similar viewpoint. We grew up with the powerful film "To Kill a Mockingbird" and read the book. We saw and read "Black Like Me" the true story of John Howard Griffin who darkened his skin and travelled through the segregated US south. And many more. We saw the tyranny of the KKK and similar groups. Lived through the 60's and witnessed, via television and radio, the civil rights movement and heard Martin Luther King and probably sang "We shall overcome". And saw the slow dismantling of segregation in the south.
On the 28 August 1963 Martin Luther King in his famous "I have a Dream" speech said'
Those words could be echoed today
https://twitter.com/Namixcv/status/1266378273161768964
Statement by Joe Biden
Thanks Macro. I'm impressed with that statement.
How the police endanger us and why we need to find an alternative
Alex S. Vitale The End of Policing (Verso, 2017)
Recent years have seen an explosion of protest against police brutality and repression—most dramatically in Ferguson, Missouri, where longheld grievances erupted in violent demonstrations following the police killing of Michael Brown. Among activists, journalists, and politicians, the conversation about how to respond and improve policing has focused on accountability, diversity, training, and community relations. Unfortunately, these reforms will not produce results, either alone or in combination. The core of the problem must be addressed: the nature of modern policing itself. “Broken windows” practices, the militarization of law enforcement, and the dramatic expansion of the police’s role over the last forty years have created a mandate for officers that must be rolled back.
This book attempts to spark public discussion by revealing the tainted origins of modern policing as a tool of social control. It shows how the expansion of police authority is inconsistent with community empowerment, social justice—even public safety. Drawing on groundbreaking research from across the world, and covering virtually every area in the increasingly broad range of police work, Alex Vitale demonstrates how law enforcement has come to exacerbate the very problems it is supposed to solve.
In contrast, there are places where the robust implementation of policing alternatives—such as legalization, restorative justice, and harm reduction—has led to reductions in crime, spending, and injustice. The best solution to bad policing may be an end to policing.
Reviews
“The End of Policing combines the best in academic research with rhetorical urgency to explain why the ordinary array of police reforms will be ineffective in reducing abusive policing. Alex Vitale shows that we must move beyond conceptualizing public safety as interdiction, exclusion, and arrest if we hope to achieve racial and economic justice.”
– Ruth Wilson Gilmore, Professor, CUNY Graduate Center, Co-Founder of Critical Resistance, author of Golden Gulag
https://www.versobooks.com/books/2426-the-end-of-policing