The Axis of Genocide

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1. SPC 1

   8 November 2024 at 4:39 pm

   Long term.

   I am on the side of the Arab League asking Iran to recognise Israel within 67 borders to delegitimise Israeli opposition to a 67 border Palestine state.

   While Iran seeks the end to Israel, they and Hezbollah and Hamas will be cited as the security cause for IDF WB occupation.

   Short term

   Biden should ban new arms to Israel, if there is no cease-fire and focus on aid delivery until Jan 20 (conditional on no Hezbollah military actions).

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   • Subliminal 1.1

     9 November 2024 at 1:31 pm

     Oh. Right. So of course this is all the fault of Iran??

     When is Israel going to recognise the illegality of their occupation? When is Israel going to be held responsible for their ongoing genocide? When is Israel going to tear down the walls of their rascist apartheid state?

     Speaking of standing on the side of genocide, statements like

     While Iran seeks the end to Israel, they and Hezbollah and Hamas will be cited as the security cause for IDF WB occupation.

     are the sort of cover being run by the west that Prof Marandi is so sick and tired of listening to.

     It doesnt take much to find the video footage of the apocalypse that Jabalia has become. 80% of bombs dropped by Israel land on family homes taking out or burying in rubble, the whole family including very young children. The 1.5 m2 of Jabalia camp is completely surrounded by the IDF using starvation, dehydration and the constant bombing of homes schools and hospitals to create sufficient terror to drive citizens south. This is what the occupation which you use the victims to blame, consists of.

     You have nicely encapsulated the entire point being made in this post by making excuses for the inexcusable. The proper response to genocide is a resounding no that does not include weasel words.

     From Jabalia:

     At the entrance of our alley, tanks were amassed, and a large number of soldiers. The scene resembled a slaughterhouse – men were gathered, stripped to their underwear, their hands tied behind their backs, and then blindfolded. Nearby was a deep pit where the mothers were held without their children, while the children cried and screamed from a third area.”

     There was a fourth area, she added.

     “There was a fourth pile – a heap of bodies piled at the entrance of my neighbors’ house, more than fifty near-naked corpses executed earlier. I wish I hadn’t seen this.”

     A soldier called to Nadia over a loudspeaker.

     “He ordered me to move south and threatened to kill me if I didn’t move fast. When I ventured to ask him about the children and my daughter and daughters-in-law, he allowed me to take them with me. But all the men were left behind, their fate unknown, in the hands of killers.”

     https://electronicintifada.net/content/tales-terror-jabaliya/49771

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2. bwaghorn 2

   8 November 2024 at 5:03 pm

   Just out of interest what are all the super wealthy Arab Muslim countries that are in the same area as Palestine doing about it?

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   • joe90 2.1

     8 November 2024 at 6:02 pm

     Just out of interest

     Today, nearly 6 million Palestinian refugees and their descendants live in Lebanon, Syria and Jordan, 20% of Jordan's population are Palestinian refugees, and another 3 million or so live in the Gulf states, North Africa and the West.

     Why would any country assist Israel with it's *Stalinist population transfer policies?

     https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/06/palestinians-will-not-be-allowed-to-return-to-homes-in-northern-gaza-says-idf

     (*Six million of the estimated twenty million victims of Stalin's brutal population transfer policies were Soviet Russian citizens.)

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     • bwaghorn 2.1.1

       9 November 2024 at 7:56 am

       I was thinking more direct action rather than refuge.

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       • Jenny 2.1.1.1

         9 November 2024 at 9:38 am

         bwaghorn @2

         8 November 2024 at 5:03 pm

         Just out of interest what are all the super wealthy Arab Muslim countries that are in the same area as Palestine doing about it?

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         • joe90 @2.1

           8 November 2024 at 6:02 pm

           Today, nearly 6 million Palestinian refugees and their descendants live in Lebanon, Syria and Jordan,….

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           • bwaghorn @2.1.1

             9 November 2024 at 7:56 am

             I was thinking more direct action rather than refuge.

         In answer to your question waghorn;

         What the Arab and Muslim countries 'in the same area as Palestine are doing about it', is typified by the schizophrenic actions of Egypt and Turkey.

         Both Egypt and Turkey have filed briefs in the International Court of Justice accusing Israel of committing genocide, in support of South Africa's case against Israel,
         On the other side of this schizoid response, both Egypt and Turkey have actively helped Israel enforce the blockade that allows Israel to commit this genocide.
         When Israel violently seized control of the Egyptian controlled Rafah crossing, killing one Egyptian soldier in the process. Egypt acquiesced to Israel's illegal seizure and closure of the last remaining fully open crossing into Gaza sealing off Gaza to the outside world. The Egyptian authorities in talks with Israel agreed to "downplay the incident" including the killing of Egyptian soldier 22-year-old Abdullah Ramadan.

         And Turkey blockaded aid ships from leaving for Gaza.

         In some ways, the Turkish and Egyptian response to the Genocide being committed in Gaza is similar to that of the US, condemn it on paper and in words but actively help commit it.

         As for the motive for this schizoid response?

         My guess, neither Turkey or Egypt want to offend their US ally. And on the other hand the memory of the Arab Spring, the region wide popular revolt against autocracy and dictatorship, is still fresh in the memory of the Turkish and Arab rulers.

         Egypt and Turkey are between a rock and a hard place, mollify their people, witness to the genocide, and at the same time be careful not to actively act against the US hegemon in the region.

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   • Jenny 2.2

     9 November 2024 at 8:08 am

     bwaghorn @2

     8 November 2024 at 5:03 pm

     Just out of interest what are all the super wealthy Arab Muslim countries that are in the same area as Palestine doing about it?

     Most of them are allies and clients of the US hegemon, so the answer to your question, is nothing.

     The one exception, Syria is a virtual client state of the Russian Federation.

     3,196 Syrian Palestinians Were Killed by Syrian Regime Forces, including 491 Due to Torture, Between March 2011 and July 2020, and 49 Appeared in the Caesar Photos

     One man identified in the video taken of the Tadamon massacre was a Palestinian,

     Oppressive local powers and their imperialist backers faced with popular revolt or an insurgency that will not quit, have only two options, concede, or commit genocide. In the case of Assad and Netanyahu, they chose genocide.

     The Arab and other allies of their respective imperialist backers know, without being told, it is in their interest to look away.

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   • Subliminal 2.3

     9 November 2024 at 1:49 pm

     I'm not sure what your point is but I believe you have offered opinion in the past against the approach being taken by Yemen. And what about Hezbollah? Are you in favour of that approach? Iran sending missiles into Israel? The same with Iraq?

     Because resistence is only happening in the neighbouring countries, and if you expect rich oligarchic states to support Palestine then I suggest that they are following the lead of rich oligarchic states in the west. Super rich people support oppression is probably a useful general rule. Its how they got rich

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     • Jenny 2.3.1

       10 November 2024 at 7:28 am

       Sublimina @l2.3

       9 November 2024 at 1:49 pm

       I'm not sure what your point is….

       My point is to answer Waghorn's question; What are the wealthy Arab and Muslim states doing about it?

       I think I have answered that pretty clearly. They are all neo-colonial proxies of the US, they won't do anything 'about it' without the approval of the US. The one exception, and not so wealthy, is Syria which is a neo-colonial proxy of the Russian Federation, they won't do anything 'about it' without the approval of the Russian Federation. (even when being regularly bombed by Israel),

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       • Subliminal 2.3.1.1

         10 November 2024 at 7:36 am

         Hi Jenny. The comment was a reply to bwaghorn. You need to check the numbers at the top right to figure out who it is replying to. In future I will put the name of who I am replying to to save confusion.

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         • Jenny 2.3.1.1.1

           10 November 2024 at 4:08 pm

           

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3. Jenny 3

   10 November 2024 at 7:12 am

   Russia destroys UNESCO- protected sites in Ukraine

   November 9, 2024 4:48 PM

   ….Moscow destroys cultural monuments not only with missile or drone strikes. Several historical monuments are under occupation, where Russian occupation authorties carry out so-called restorations, changing the authentic appearance of sites or destroying them completely, erasing all possible references to Ukrainian or Crimean Tatar culture.
   As of Oct. 16, UNESCO confirmed the damage to 457 sites, including 143 religious sites, 231 buildings of historical or artistic interest, 32 museums, 33 monuments, 17 libraries, and one archive.
   "It's not only the killing of children, elderly people, or soldiers, not only the occupation of our land and expropriation of our assets, but the destruction of our cultural heritage and built environment and immovable heritage,"….

   https://kyivindependent.com/unesco-sites/

   Israel backed by the Western powers set the precedent

   Israel destroys UNESCO-protected sites in Gaza

   October 9, 2024 11.30pm NZDT

   As of 17 September 2024, UNESCO has verified damage to 69 sites: 10 religious sites, 43 buildings of historical and artistic interest, two repositories of movable cultural property, six monuments, one museum and seven archaeological sites. Other reports give a much higher number of affected sites. These assessments are made in very difficult situations, in the midst of constant bombardment, thanks to testimonies and studies on the ground and supported by satellite images…..
   …..One especially striking example of a site reduced to rubble is the Great Mosque of Gaza, considered by many to be the oldest mosque in the territory and a symbol of resilience. The Church of Saint Porphyrius – the oldest Christian church in Gaza, built by the Crusaders in 1150 – has also been hit by Israeli airstrikes…..
   ….While Israel is not a member of UNESCO – it left in 2018, when the Trump administration pulled the US out – it is still obligated under the 1954 Hague Convention to preserve cultural property…..

   https://theconversation.com/destruction-of-gaza-heritage-sites-aims-to-erase-and-replace-palestines-history-240722

   Coming to a future war zone near you

   The genocidal nature of Israel's total war on Gaza, approved and supported by the Western powers, is precedent setting for how all wars in the 21st Century will be fought.

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   • SPC 3.1

     10 November 2024 at 7:36 am

     The invasion of Ukraine was in early 2022

     Since the beginning of the full-scale invasion, Russia has destroyed over 1,000 cultural heritage sites in Ukraine, including those under the protection of UNESCO, according to the Culture Ministry.

     The precedent for Gaza, was in Syria and Ukraine and Islamic State in Iraq (and some earlier looting after the regime change) and Taleban in Afghanistan.

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4. lprent 4

   10 November 2024 at 11:24 am

   Good post (and readable this time).

   This is fundamentally illustrates what I have a problem with Israeli and US policies.

   Israel is clearly running a war of extermination against Gazan civilians, targeting 70% women and children, in an clear effort to exterminate the future population of an occupied territory.

   Israel is claims 'self-defence' as its reason in doing this in an attempt to wipe out a armed force in an occupied territory.

   In my view and that of international law there is absolutely no difference between having troops in a direct occupation, and Israel running a decades long blockade with a repeated deliberately very imprecise terrorist attacks by the IDF. Self-defence is a concept that cuts both ways.

   The problem is that there has been no end to the war in Palestine since 1948 for Palestinians or Israelis. Palestinian mandate still only has a single state in it, that of Israeli which occupies the whole territory covered by the 1947 resolution of the UN.The Israelis claim occupation of the Palestinians parts of that resolution.

   If I recognise Israeli self-defence against attacks that hit civilians, then I have to view Israeli attacks that hit civilians as being a cause for Gazan self-defence against their Israeli occupation. Occupation means that attacks by forces in a occupied territory are inherently self-defence against occupying or blockading forces.

   In practice I don't see any self-defence by Israel. What I see if outright aggression against a civilian population under occupation.

   Israel have had 50 years since the Yom Kippur war in 1973 where they gained full possession of the West Bank and Gaza from the armies of Arab states to negotiate a peaceful settlement. They simply have never seriously tried.

   Each 'negotiation' has only been about how much land and resources the Israelis can steal from Palestinians.

   Israel as a state, and the IDF have the morals of a barbarian horde – they should be treated by the international community as such. NZ should not be prepared to support further extermination policies or population displacement by the Israelis.

   At this point the only viable solution that I can see is to put in a armed UN force with orders not to just defend themselves, but to attack any IDF or Palestinian incursions on the other. Ideally on the borders mandated by the 1947 resolution on Palestine.

   The other alternative would be to reverse that resolution and to remove Israel before they open their death camps – a course that they are clearly on the path towards.

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   • Dennis Frank 4.1

     11 November 2024 at 10:22 pm

     the morals of a barbarian horde

     Seems clear to me that both semitic sides exhibit that. I suspect an evolutionary theorist would envisage a `kill the non-conforming semite' gene to explain the reciprocity. I've been reading evolutionary psych texts since the '90s and not observed any of the authors doing that yet but congenital timidity is academic tradition.

     However I largely concur with your analysis re the distant descendants of the conquerors of the promised land. As a kid I read in the Bible that it was the land of milk & honey when they did the original genocide in the Bronze Age.

     Occupants since their removal turned it into desert but when I put that to a young Israeli at our national permaculture hui yesterday morning he said it is mixed nowadays and I'm aware that communes/kibbutzes have been extending habitat into reclaiming desert since the restart of Israel. We must remember too that fundamentalist jews rule there now so the Israeli peacemakers are rendered impotent by democracy.

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     • Jenny 4.1.1

       12 November 2024 at 1:14 pm

       Far right slur against Palestinians, and Jews,

       Dennis Frank suggests that Palestinians and Israelis have to quote hin, a `kill the non-conforming semite' gene as an explanation and justification for both October 9 and Israel's genocide in Gaza

       Eugenics and Scientific Racism

       National Human Genome Research Institute

       Eugenics is an inaccurate theory linked to historical and present-day forms of discrimination, racism, ableism and colonialism. It has persisted in policies and beliefs around the world, including the United States.

       Scientific racism [fascism] is an ideology that appropriates the methods and legitimacy of science to argue for the superiority of white Europeans and the inferiority of non-white people whose social and economic status have been historically marginalized.

       Like eugenics, scientific racism grew out of:

       • the misappropriation of revolutionary advances in medicine, anatomy and statistics during the 18th and 19th centuries.
       • Charles Darwin’s theory of evolution through the mechanism of natural selection.
       • Gregor Mendel’s laws of inheritance.

       Eugenic theories and scientific racism drew support from contemporary xenophobia, antisemitism, sexism, colonialism and imperialism, as well as justifications of slavery, particularly in the United States……

       "I largely concur with your [lprent] analysis re the distant descendants of the conquerors of the promised land. As a kid I read in the Bible that it was the land of milk & honey when they did the original genocide in the Bronze Age."
       Dennis Frank

       That the ancestors who conquered the land, whom Palestinians are the distant descendants of. committed genocide against the Israelis in the Bronze age.

       From my reading of lprent's comment; lprent never said, or even inferred, such a thing.

       But whether or not lprent said or even inferred it The underlying argument that a genocide, that may, or may not, have happened thousands of years ago in the Bronze age, is a valid reason for what the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians now, is not a moral or even logical argument.

       The other Zionist myth encapsulated in Dennis Frank's comment, that the Palestinians had made a land of milk and honey into a barren wasteland, a wasteland that the Israelis are rehabilitating.

       Decolonise Palestine

       The claim that Zionist settlers “made the desert bloom” is one of the most recognizable Israeli talking points, perhaps second only to the “land without a people for a people without a land” slogan. This line is used so often that it has become a rather parodied cliché. But cliché or not, it still endures to this day and is fervently repeated over and over by Israelis and their supporters worldwide.

       According to this myth, Palestine was a neglected bleak desert, and that only after the arrival of the Zionist colonists with their ingenuity was it “redeemed” and made prosperous and blooming with life.

       This quite obviously plays on Orientalist tropes about the east, framing it as a desolate, backwards and uncared for land. Land that under the right circumstances, and cultivated by the “right” civilized people, could bloom into a green paradise. This talking point complements the Terra Nullius myth quite nicely, as they both build off each other to create the narrative of the colonists bringing life and civilization to the land. The natives -if they are even acknowledged at all- are framed as having lacked the technological or even the moral mettle to make the land thrive….

       ….Records show that despite the loud proclamations of Zionists making the desert bloom, in 1944 land cultivated by Palestinians in the Naqab desert alone was three times of that cultivated by the entire Zionist settler presence in Palestine. As a matter of fact, the amount of cultivated land in the Naqab desert has dropped significantly since the Nakba in 1947-48. This is yet another case of a popular Zionist slogan being the complete opposite of reality.

       If we look at the data even more closely, it paints an even clearer picture: The vast majority of cultivated agricultural land in Israel today was already being cultivated by Palestinians before their ethnic cleansing. Schechtman estimates that on the eve of the 1948 war, around 2,990,000 dunams of land (or 739,750 acres) were being cultivated by Palestinians. These cultivated lands were so vast, that they were “greater than the physical area which was under cultivation in Israel almost thirty years later.” It took Israel 30 years to even equal the amount of land being cultivated before its establishment. Alan George continues:

       “The impressive expansion of Israel’s cultivated area since 1948 has been more apparent than real since it involved mainly the ‘reclamation’ of farmland belonging to the refugees.”

       It would be dishonest to claim that there have been no new cultivated lands since, but the fact remains that the agricultural core of the Israeli state consists of cultivated farmland that was stolen from Palestinian refugees after their ethnic cleansing…..

       https://decolonizepalestine.com/myth/israel-made-the-desert-bloom/

       To understand the roots of the current conflict we need to ditch the Zionist myths and look at the economic and political reasons for the conflict.

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       • Dennis Frank 4.1.1.1

         12 November 2024 at 3:43 pm

         Rather than hallucinating and misinterpreting what someone writes, why not pay attention instead?

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         • Jenny 4.1.1.1.1

           12 November 2024 at 3:56 pm

           I would appreciate it, if you could, point out where I have made an error.

           Maybe we could both learn something.

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           • Dennis Frank 4.1.1.1.1.1

             12 November 2024 at 4:42 pm

             Anyone who does massacres is motivated by barbarian morals. Since both semitic sides in the conflict have done so, both fit that description. Since when has accuracy been a slur?? And I've lost count of the times onsite here when I have declared that I comment as a radical centrist. Not rightist even, let alone far right, so to see such balanced centrism as coming from the far right, as you put it, really is hallucinating.

             You didn't even try to justify your irrelevant quotes of eugenics/racism, so I'll skip over that. Then you try to twist my condemnation of the original genocide campaign led by Joshua, according to the Bible, that resulted in the Israelites who escaped Egypt, a generation later, killing all the indigenous folk in Canaan. The jews are indeed descendants of the killers, and I agreed with his critique of their current behaviour.

             The Bible has God telling them to do the genocide because it is a land of milk & honey & he promises it to them. Occupation since then by an endless stream of invaders & settlers transformed it into a desert (mostly) from which it is now recovering. History & geography inform us of all this.

             I'm on record as opposing the zionism used to dispossess the Palestinians in various prior comments. I'd credit the Palestinians with returning the desert to crops & pasture if I saw evidence of them doing so but haven't noticed anyone providing such yet.

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             • SPC …

               12 November 2024 at 4:53 pm

               Heard of the phrase, a book to learn from, not believe in?

               6.There is no evidence (not even a singular one) that natural events are caused by God to kill anyone. Not by rising sea level, nor by local rivers moving into flood plains.

               There is no evidence of the death of the first born in Egypt, nor of any conquest of Canaan (and elimination of the population).

               7.There is no evidence that a mans wife, or a later King committed adultery. The book only says so, after all these false claims of murder, enough to clue you up?

               8.Theft, and the third cross …

               9.False Witness and 3 crosses .. enough?

               Judge not lest you be judged. No justice no peace, no peace no justice.

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               • Dennis Frank …

                 12 November 2024 at 5:13 pm

                 What made you assume I believed in the Bible? Hallucination must be contagious today. Nonetheless, the Bible is part of history and the historical impact of all that mythologising remains extensive. Israel's govt & their political majority base still believe the Bible gives a true account of history. That makes it a primary determinant of political behaviour in the region. Any postmodern relativising of the thing by you or I is water off a duck's back to true believers.

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                 • SPC …

                   12 November 2024 at 5:40 pm

                   Then stop writing stuff like this.

                   The jews are indeed descendants of the killers,

                   As for this

                   Israel's govt & their political majority base still believe the Bible gives a true account of history.

                   Can you cite the polling?

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                   • Dennis Frank …

                     12 November 2024 at 6:02 pm

                     You really don't believe that jews are descendants of Israelites?? You must be the first person in history to achieve such a feat of mental acrobatics. Pollsters are unlikely to waste money researching something that everyone knows is true, right? Since reportage has stressed that the current leader remains in power due to his fundamentalist support base continuously in recent years, dunno why you think anyone would waste money seeing if people agree with such common knowledge. Why pretend ignorance?
                   • Subliminal []

                     13 November 2024 at 12:53 pm

                     @Dennis

                     What a ridiculous statement. Your "theory" buys into the Zionist trope that because Jews don't proselytise, they remained there own pure ethnic selves. However, this is completely untrue and it is well established in academia that new racial lines were established as the Jewish religion spread to Eastern Europe precisely through proselytising.

                     Ashkenazi Jews are more closely related to Italians than Semites so you will need to now extend your antisemite racism to include the barbarity of Italians. Perhaps you could justify this in your normal sweeping brushstrokes to the Ruthless Romans?

                     The uncontroversial academic and historical facts that European Jews are descendants of European converts to Judaism from the centuries before Christianity was adopted as the religion of the Roman Empire in the fourth century are unquestionable axioms in academic scholarship, including by Zionist historians.

                     No respected historian of European Jewry has ever argued that European Jews, or for that matter Moroccan, or Iraqi, or Yemeni Jews, were descendants of the ancient Hebrews. All respected scholars recognise them as descendants of converts to Judaism.

                     https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2011/11/18/truths-facts-and-facts-on-the-ground/

                     And for genetic research on origins of EEJ (Eastern European Jews:

                     The close genetic resemblance to Italians accords with the historical presumption that Ashkenazi Jews started their migrations across Europe in Italy and with historical evidence that conversion to Judaism was common in ancient Rome.
                   • SPC …

                     12 November 2024 at 6:28 pm

                     Stop with attempt at a devious crawling away – there is nothing radical about that.

                     You claimed to not believe the bible accounts, then labelled today's Jews descendants of killers.

                     This made a joke of your earlier words

                     `kill the non-conforming semite' gene

                     As for this latest post

                     AI noted

                     A Pew Research Center poll found that only half of Israeli Jews and those who went to a secular university believe in God with absolute certainty.

                     Detail

                     About eight-in-ten (81%) Israeli adults are Jewish, while the remainder are mostly ethnically Arab and religiously Muslim (14%), Christian (2%) or Druze (2%)

                     Israeli Jews are far from a homogeneous group.

                     Virtually all Jews in Israel identify with one of four major religious subgroups: Hiloni (“secular”), Masorti (“traditional”), Dati (“religious”) and Haredi (“ultra-Orthodox”).

                     Hilonim are the least religious and make up roughly half of Israeli Jews (49%).

                     Overall, Datiim (sometimes called Modern Orthodox Jews) generally follow Jewish traditions, but they are more integrated into modern society than Haredim and tend to lean to the right politically, especially on issues pertaining to the conflict with the Palestinians.

                     Masortim occupy the religious middle ground, but they appear to be declining as a share of Israeli Jews, while Haredim make up an increasing share (currently 9%).

                     https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2016/03/08/key-findings-religion-politics-israel/

                     While I quote them to show how secular 50% of 81% of the population is. I'd note Pew seems to conflate those in Israel by law of return (Jewish greatgrandparent test) are Jews. Many of these people cannot marry in Israel, because they do not qualify as Jewish and thus cannot have a synagogue marriage.

                     Whatever.

                     You really don't believe that jews are descendants of Israelites

                     An irrelevant aside, so you can hide from accountability for your specious narrative.

                     Why pretend ignorance

                     It is your black mirror.
             • Jenny …

               14 November 2024 at 9:48 am

               Dennis Frank @4.1.1.1.1.1

               12 November 2024 at 4:42 pm

               Anyone who does massacres is motivated by barbarian morals. Since both semitic sides in the conflict have done so, both fit that description. Since when has accuracy been a slur?…..

               Since when, you went further than that, to suggest that Semites have a genetic propensity to barbarism.

               Dennis Frank @4.1

               11 November 2024 at 10:22 pm

               the morals of a barbarian horde

               Seems clear to me that both semitic sides exhibit that. I suspect an evolutionary theorist would envisage a `kill the non-conforming semite' gene…..

               Would you make the same suggestion for non-Semites?

               Would you make the same suggestion that Germans have a gene that makes them commit, or support genocide?

               Germany committed two genocides in the 20th Century, and is now supporting a third in the 21st Century

               Namibia:

               ….In 1884, Germany (a minor power in Africa at the time) ruled over south-west Africa. After Germany had taken over, the Herero and Nama grew sick of the colonization and oppression, and in January 1904, decided to start a rebellion. With their revolt, Germany began a massacre targeting the two ethnic groups. This massacre led to what has been called “The 1st genocide of the 20th century.”

               https://holocaustcenter.jfcs.org/remembering-the-forgotten-genocide-of-the-herero-and-nama/

               Europe:

               ……The Holocaust was the systematic, state-sponsored persecution and murder of six million European Jews by the Nazi German regime and its allies and collaborators. The Holocaust was an evolving process that took place throughout Europe between 1933 and 1945…..

               https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/introduction-to-the-holocaust

               Gaza:

               Two weeks ago, German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock defended Israel's killing of Palestinian civilians during a parliamentary address…..

               This incident is simply the latest example of Germany's enthusiastic support of Israel's campaign of extermination in Gaza….

               In claiming the Holocaust to be a breakdown of civilisation – an allegedly unexplainable, unique and unrivalled event in human history – Germany has spent decades pretending that the country has come to terms with its history.

               By reducing the entirety of its brutal history to the singular crime of the Holocaust, Germany has failed to account for its settler-colonial violence and has not learnt any lesson

               https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/germany-israel-gaza-genocide-complicity-what-behind

               To understand the real causes of genocide, we must dismiss totally the anti-Semitic and supremist race theories of the Eugenicists that were used to justify the crimes of the German imperialists in Africa and Europe. And not just Germany; The same race theories have been used by every other imperialist and colonialist nation, to justify their crimes against the indigenous people's of the world.

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               • Jenny …

                 14 November 2024 at 10:26 am

                 '

                 The Excess of Genocide

                 The Tasmanian genocide (1825 – 1832) Perpetrators, British Empire

                 The Trail Of Tears genocide (1830 -1850) Perpetrators, United States

                 The Circassian genocide (1864 -1867) perpetrators, Russian Empire

                 The Namibian genocide (1904 – 1908) Perpetrators, German Empire

                 The Armenian Genocide (1915-16) Perpetrators, Ottoman Empire

                 The Holodomor (1932 – 1933) Perpetrators, Soviet Empire

                 The Holocaust (1941 -1945), Perpetrators the German (Nazi), Empire

                 Guatemalan genocide (1960–1996) Perpetrators United States

                 The Cambodian genocide (1975 – 1979) Perpetrators Khmer Rouge, supported by US, China. (and NZ)

                 East Timor genocide (1974 – 1999) perpetrators Indonesia

                 The Rwandan genocide (1994) Perpetrators Hutu extremists "enabled" by Hutu ally, France.

                 Uyghurs genocide (1997 – present) Perpetrators China

                 Syrian genocide (2011 – present) perpetrators, Assad regime supported by Russia, Iran.

                 Sudan genocide(s) – (2004 – present) perpetrators, two proxy factions, RSF, Sudanese Army, supported by various opposing foreign powers.

                 Gaza genocide (2023 – present) perpetrators, Israel, supported by US and other Western nations.

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5. Jenny 5

   11 November 2024 at 9:10 pm

   Genocide machines.

   The only weapons system the US has put a block on supplying to Israel. It has to be pretty horrible for the US to put a block on it.

   US freezes delivery of bulldozers to Israel over Gaza home demolitions: Report

   Middle East Monitor, November 10, 2024 at 5:21 pm

   The US has frozen the delivery of 130 bulldozers to Israel amid home demolitions in the Gaza Strip, the Israeli media said on Sunday, Anadolu Agency reports.

   According to Israeli daily Yedioth Ahronoth, the Israeli Defense Ministry signed a major contract to purchase around 130 D9 bulldozers from US machinery maker Caterpillar.

   The newspaper, citing Israeli security sources, said the US recently froze the deal due to the use of these bulldozers to demolish homes in Gaza, which has sparked widespread criticism in the US.

   The sources claimed that Israel had already paid for the bulldozers and was awaiting export approval from the US State Department.

   The Israeli daily said that the freeze came at a time when Israel was in desperate need of the bulldozers……

   https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20241110-us-freezes-delivery-of-bulldozers-to-israel-over-gaza-home-demolitions-report/

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   • Joe90 5.1

     11 November 2024 at 9:43 pm

     Jared will be disappointed.

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     Jared Kushner has praised the “very valuable” potential of Gaza’s “waterfront property” and suggested Israel should remove civilians while it “cleans up” the strip.

     https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/19/jared-kushner-gaza-waterfront-property-israel-negev

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6. Jenny 6

   11 November 2024 at 10:57 pm

   The Excess of Genocide

   "I would never sign up to the policies of Iran, especially on issues like women’s rights, but I do find the invitation to a broad coalition clarifying: the Axis of Genocide versus The Axis of Resistance. Whose side are you on?"
   Eugene Doyle

   I don't think it is clarifying at all.

   Who for instance is in this broad coalition? Eugene Doyle doesn't tell us who is in this Axis that he thinks we should join. Or even who is in the Axis of genocide that we should avoid?

   Who is in the Axis of Resistance?, is Iran in it? Is Syria in it? Is Russia, is China?

   For their involvement in the atrocities committed in Syria by the Assad regime, if there is such a thing as an axis of genocide, Syria, Iran, Russia and Hezbollah are all card carrying members of the Axis of Genocide.
   If there is an axis of resistance, Iran is not in it. Iran helped suppress the Arab Spring, in Iran and in Syria. Iran helped Assad commit genocide against his own people.

   If you don't support what the Western axis is doing in Gaza then you must support an axis of resistance with Iran.

   Give me a break.

   I have watched the video Eugene Doyle supplied of Seyed Marandi confronting Pierce Morgan, it is compelling and every word of it is true. I would recommend watching it. Here

   But German newsreels of the 1930s exposing the grotesque crimes of the British Empire were just as compelling, and every word of that was true too.

   But the message was; If you don't support British Imperialism then you must support German Imperialism

   Personally I am sick and tired of this binary bullshit.

   If I don't support Russian imperialism, then I must support US imperialism?

   If I don't support what the Western Axis is doing in Gaza, then I must support an Axis of resistance with Iran?

   Give me a break.

   It is imperialism itself that is the enemy of humanity and we are all guilty of allowing it to continue. it will be the ruin of us all.

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7. roblogic 7

   13 November 2024 at 12:20 am

   Abby Martin talks to ordinary Israeli citizens and gets their opinions of Palestinians.

   Endorsement of violence, apartheid, colonisation, and ethnic cleansing. Xenophobia, prejudice, and total ignorance of history.

   And a violation of their own commandments against murder, to live in peace, and the most ancient traditions of hospitality. (Yes there are other, darker ways of reading the Scripture, but those are wrong)

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