Weaving the magic

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1. fabregas4 1

   12 June 2011 at 9:05 pm

   As a teacher in Tai Tokerau, Kelvin upset me. All of the statistics point towards teaching being difficult here. I have mostly seen dedicated and hard working teachers doing their dam best in tough circumstances. His comment that we need excellent teachers is an insult to all working their butts off here in the North. Additionally, he had absolutely nothing to say when Boag mouthed on about National Standards – a policy that will do no good for our kids and quite possibly do harm. I give him 0/10 for this appearance.
   • Andy (the other one) 1.1

     12 June 2011 at 9:19 pm

     No one gets a right of reply to the panel! Davis said teaching was tough in TTT, not that teaching was poor. Wanted more resources for better teaching, and to attract more good teachers.

     Watch it again, and relax!
2. JJ 2

   12 June 2011 at 9:14 pm

   As long as Kelvin beats Hone Ill be happy
3. Georgecom 3

   12 June 2011 at 10:11 pm

   Harawira hit one of the central nails on the head – have work available. People are engaged in their community & when dads come home from work they feel good about themselves. It is not work in 3 or 5 years time, it is the need for work now. Whatever the manner of work is created, it is needed now.

   Rob
4. Barnsley Bill 4

   12 June 2011 at 11:08 pm

   There is work in the north. The hundreds of orchard and farm workers from the islands and Asia living semi permanently in and around the area from Taipa to Kawakawa prove that. It is the will that is missing not jobs.
   • Colonial Viper 4.1

     12 June 2011 at 11:15 pm

     It is the will to pay NZ’ers at decent wage rates that is missing not jobs.

     Fixed it for you.
     • Tiger Mountain 4.1.1

       13 June 2011 at 8:39 am

       @ Barnsley: Part time, seasonal, precarious jobs are not real family sustaining work. Compounded as CV says by low wages and the difficulties of moving between work and benefits, plus abatement rates and associated travel and clothing costs, all for a few weeks night work in a pack house?

       The will missing is Shonkey and National’s to take job creation seriously. The private sector has not been able to remotely achieve that for the North so the government has to step in.
     • Lanthanide 4.1.2

       13 June 2011 at 9:39 am

       Did you see Watch the Politician Work with Trevor Mallard doing asparagas picking?
        
       That was seasional work which hired people from the islands under the scheme that Trevor set up under the last Labour government. The workers were actually pretty highly paid (equivalent to ~$60k per year) if they were efficient – it was paid on output so the more you picked the more you were paid. The work was very hard and demanding though and Trevor had to admit it simply wasn’t the type of work that NZers were generally interested in.
       • Colonial Viper 4.1.2.1

         13 June 2011 at 7:16 pm

         Love to see the numbers on how many of those workers actually earned over $40K p.a. and what their hourly earnings worked out at.

         Plenty of people in ag and hort are on deals which look generous compared to the minimum wage – but when you analyse them they are mediocre at best.
   • North 4.2

     13 June 2011 at 7:12 pm

     The ugly old refrain ……. “There’s work if you want it !” There are literally thousands of jobs published in the Herald every month as well.

     I defy you to show that seasonal orchard work is going to solve employment issues in the North. Even if it could you’ve gotta get an infrastructure to start with…….transport and so. There’s none up here.

     That’s why your ugly old refrain is such utter, should be unspeakable, rubbish.

     Rotten Old Pre-Depression Edwardian Tory You !
5. kaipara pete 5

   12 June 2011 at 11:12 pm

   i thought kelvin’s performance was weak, he came across as yappy poodle trying hard to nip at the heels of a much more confident and competent harawira.

   kelvin showed potential, but also showed he isn’t yet ready for the job – unlike harawira, who was relaxed and a lot more compelling in terms of proposed solutions.
6. weka 6

   12 June 2011 at 11:15 pm

   Could Holmes’ te reo pronunciation be any worse?
   • felix 6.1

     13 June 2011 at 8:53 am

     Yeah it could be as bad as Dr Jon Johanssonson, veteran Australasian stunt co-ordinator.
7. fabregas4 7

   13 June 2011 at 9:15 am

   Nice one Felix – “it’s all gone horribly wrong!”. Which by strange coincidence is what our Prime Minister must be thinking about the balance of payments.
8. deemac 8

   13 June 2011 at 12:34 pm

   I didn’t think Kelvin was criticising teachers as such but it is often hard to get the full context of your point across in that sort of setting. Given his experience in the field, we should probably treat his views on Maori educational prospects as pretty authoritative I would think.
9. bomber 9

   13 June 2011 at 4:19 pm

   Kelvin is nice, but won’t win, Hone will.
10. North 10

    13 June 2011 at 7:01 pm

    What you’re really saying Mike Smith is that it’s a wonderful thing if Kelvin wins, goes down to Wellington, Ph’Goff claps him on the back, promises him a cabinet post sometime, and Maori are put on the back burner forever and ever…….Amene.

    Choice !???

    In reality the Labour Party’s attitude to Maori is no better than that of the Tory cruds. Butter up, talk all sorts of love and affection and respect on 6 February, then on 7 February go back to the shitty attitudes which held sway on 5 February.

    The Labour Party lost it’s right to claim staunchness with the poorest of New Zealand more than 20 years ago.

    A parting shot………I venture that most of your Hone-Haters (see JJ above) are arrogant wee pakeha punks who wouldn’t have a bloody clue what grinding poverty looks like or feels like from the Maori perspective.
11. North 11

    13 June 2011 at 7:46 pm

    For Christ’s sake………all of you……..from cabinet ministers to newsreaders – Hone Harawira’s name is pronounced “Hore-Neh”, the “Hore” more or less rhyming with “Slaw”, the “Neh” more or less rhyming with “Pear”.

    It is not and never has been “Hoe-Nay” or “Haw-Nay”

    How would that old girl Holmes react if constantly we said “Par-Ool” for Paul. Or Boag if we said “Mick-Helly” for Michelle ?

    Really am surprised how pakeha yuppies who so respect and love “Meeories” need such basic instruction !
    • weka 11.1

      13 June 2011 at 10:54 pm

      We could call him Mr Hole-mez 🙂

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