What the government wants to dig up

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1. Pascal's bookie 1

   4 December 2009 at 12:03 pm

   Looks ideal. That natural canal could carry all the tailings out to sea quite nicely.
2. mickysavage 2

   4 December 2009 at 12:17 pm

   But it will be done in an environmentally sensitive and caring way …
3. theaveragekeywi 3

   4 December 2009 at 1:02 pm

   It’s perfectly productive Dairy Farming land too. We need more cows
4. vto 4

   4 December 2009 at 1:34 pm

   I’ve got it!

   They bleat on about ‘keyhole surgery’ type mining (which is quite true). So let them keyhole the deposits – from outside the national park boundaries. They can tunnel in from the Haast to Wanaka road somewhere and keep the whole entire shebang under the ground. Nobody will ever know. And when it is all finished the massive long tunnel can be used for tourism opportunities to get travellers right into the midst of the greenery easy as. There. All sides happy. I think I will call this type of solution win-win.
   • lprent 4.1

     4 December 2009 at 1:47 pm

     Much of the damage is from the roads to remove the over-burden and the sheer sediment leaching from opening faces to the rain.

     ”keyhole’ mining is a pretty much a mining myth at present.

     Tunneling is efficient in terms of the local environment. However it is seldom economic. You can virtually guarantee that they would do an opencast of some kind, which always has far wider effects than just the pit.

     Exploration isn’t as bad, but still has a pretty large impact as soon as you start drilling or even laying seismo testing charges. You have to get the people into the area with all of their gear. Even using choppers is an issue because they seldom have landing spots. You have to make them.
5. randal 5

   4 December 2009 at 2:10 pm

   In the words of the great communicator:”if you have seen one national park then you have seen them all”. HAW HAW HAW.
6. Gosman 6

   4 December 2009 at 2:19 pm

   Really, they want to dig right where that picture was taken? So they would place the mine where exactly in that picture? Just at the bottom of the waterfalls I bet.
   • r0b 6.1

     4 December 2009 at 4:01 pm

     Why Gosman? Would it upset you if the mine was right there at that very spot? Would you think that was wrong?
7. Peter Johns 7

   4 December 2009 at 2:37 pm

   fill the hole with lefties/greenies Katyn Forest style.
   Always moaning about 2 many humans. So we should kill the lefties/greenies off to do our bit for the planet and do as they say reduce CO2 emissions.
   Win win for the planet and righties..
   • micky savage 7.1

     4 December 2009 at 8:09 pm

     But how will you replace all of the intelligence? The average IQ will plummet.
8. Bored 8

   4 December 2009 at 2:37 pm

   I had an exchange with other bloggers early this week where I commented that their language was not conducive to debating reality as it was circumscribed within closed terms that were purely conceptual. It did not coincide with reality.

   The same thing is happening here, as the picture shows we have something that has real tangible values that can be seen and touched. Unfortunately business and its advocates within government only want debate on these values in economic terms, through abstract values such as dollars. Aesthetics, biodiversity, etc are not ascribed any value therefore are off limit to debate. Perhaps if we deposited a slag heap in Brownlee’s front and back yards he might begin to see that aesthetics etc might be somehow linked to a real value proposition.
   • Armchair Critic 8.1

     4 December 2009 at 3:03 pm

     I thought pretty much the same thing about the 2025 report. All about the dollars, nothing about any other effects.
     From the perspective that there seems to be a fair bit of resistance to digging up conservation land, I don’t mind the govt. running with this issue.
     • Draco T Bastard 8.1.1

       4 December 2009 at 6:32 pm

       That’s what the 1980s Rogernomic reforms were all about as well and we now know how well that went.
   • Idiot/Savant 8.2

     4 December 2009 at 3:15 pm

     Or we could dig up Ilam. Brownlee’s Fendalton NIMBY base would just love that.
9. randal 9

   4 December 2009 at 2:45 pm

   so better tell jerry not to have too many sausage rolls before he goes on a tour of inspection.I dont think he would last the distance.
   [Is this sort of thing really helpful randal? — r0b]
10. outofbed 10

    4 December 2009 at 3:18 pm

    Produce a right 2025 report and then appear moderate by rejecting it

    Say you are going to mine Mt Aspiring and then “listen to the people” and not mine it
    but move on to somewhere with perhaps lesser conservation value

    Talk about being “played”
    • Hustler 10.1

      4 December 2009 at 4:59 pm

      Talk about being “played”

      But who is playing with whom?
      And who are they playing with?……themselves? (all too often this can happen)

      outofbed you are no fun.

      Are you called ‘outofbed’ for a reason, is it because you can’t get ‘betweenthesheets’?

      You know when someone has ‘old’ views they lose the pizzazz they once had ..
      • outofbed 10.1.1

        4 December 2009 at 5:15 pm

        if loosing ones pizzazz means understanding what the fuck you are talking about, then yes we have both lost it
11. Idiot/Savant 11

    4 December 2009 at 3:59 pm

    There’s now a Facebook group for this: “Hands off Mt Aspiring NP”

    (No link; I hate facebook. If I wanted to be data-mined and network-analysed like that, I’d convert to Islam and move to the UK…)
12. randal 12

    5 December 2009 at 12:06 pm

    r0b.
    the short answer is yes.

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