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The Deputy Prime Minister should apologise to the public servant he named and blamed for something they did not do, and for misusing the rules of Parliament. ...1 week ago
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Nicola Willis’ policies continue to slow the economy with more Kiwis out of work as a result. ...1 week ago
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Today, Statistics New Zealand’s latest labour market report revealed that unemployment has reached 4.8 per cent, the highest rate since late 2020, during the COVID pandemic. ...1 week ago
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The Green Party is urgently calling on Prime Minister Christopher Luxon to abandon the Treaty Principles Bill following reports it will be introduced on Thursday. ...1 week ago
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The Government is backtracking on existing commitments to do the right thing by homeowners let down by EQC (now the Natural Hazards Commission). ...1 week ago
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Boo Hoo John Roughan – blimey not sure how to reply to his diatribe without being a tad disrespectful, read for yourselves. My initial reaction is – Stupid Old Fart, and I'm several years older than him.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12259316
I know what I thought after Roughan had turned his bias a back a notch in recent months most of the time, I think it was an immediate and inherent reaction to Willie Jackson being a part of this. There is a wider range of "personality politics" where the "messenger" is incapable of keeping their personal bias' to themselves.
Sunday muttonbirdbrain was saying people were delusional for thinking Jacinda was booed at eden park and it didn’t even make the news.
Well he/she will be happy – it’s front page of Newshub this evening.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/08/was-it-acceptable-to-boo-jacinda-ardern-after-all-blacks-match.html
Coz, the geese are honking!
James! Jacinda's your kinda gal!
"New Zealand's Prime Minister Jacinda Arden has enjoyed a victory in her own Bledisloe battle.
The All Blacks retained the Bledisloe Cup with a comprehensive 36-0 victory over the Wallabies at Eden Park on Saturday night.
But less than 48 hours later, Arden revealed she too had enjoyed a trans-Tasman victory from a 'little wager' with her Australian counterpart Scott Morrison."
Hi James, I didn't hear any booing, but I wasn't concentrating on the background sound.
may pay to get your ears checked.
Newshub online is probably not a reliable indicator of popular opinion across the country.
Mind you, given the way the NZRFU allowed themselves to be appropriated by the National Party during the Key years a half-pissed rugby crowd, dissing a Labour PM, wouldn’t be much of a surprise.
several of us were there and saw it – but muttonbirdbrain wouldn’t believe it until it was in the media.
But 50000 people gives a reasonable cross section of kiwis.
50,000 rugby fans does not give a reasonable cross-section of "kiwis," it gives a reasonable cross-section of rugby fans.
Yeh, i'd be feeling quite good about myself if booed by such a crowed.
Sure 50k might give you a bit of a cross section of NZers. It seems, though that far less than that had the bad manners to voice a complaint at the PM at Eden Park.
To be fair, I take whatever you say with a grain of salt, too.
The cheers were louder than the boos, anyway. Unlike when dunnokeyo went to the rugby. Or Ratana. Or the BGO…
Yes every right winger and his dog were there at Eden Park apparently, waiting around for the cup presentation… lol
you could hear it on TV. I was a bit drunk but she was uncomfortable as.
Rugby fans boo Labour PM. Incredible (sarc).
I remember when Anton Oliver was an AB. When the press polled the team the result was that only he and one other AB said they would vote Labour/Green while the rest of the squad said they would vote for the Nats.
And before that there were the apartheid-supporting Springbok tour crowds…..
A clear example of boozed up toxic masculinity.
Lol. Of course it must be sexism- I laugh how you can’t get it past your head that people are starting to wake up to her.
"Starting to wake up to her?" She's been unpopular with the nation's boofheads from day one – or have you forgotten "She's a pretty communist?"
what are they booing for?
You would have to ask the people booing.
James, you said "I laugh how you can’t get it past your head that people are starting to wake up to her.", which made me think you had some ideas on what the booing was about. I mean, you wouldn't just be using this an opportunity to score political points would you?
Tribal glue?
Has there ever been a partisan rugby crowd welcome an officiating politician?
She's just a person James…Jesus would get booed.
Sorry, most of us still dig Jacinda.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12180474
Enough said.
Old snub:
Dated 20/12/2018 https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12180474 Former New Zealand Rugby boss David Moffett calls Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern a 'traitor'
Moffett is a member of the NewConservative party and a tweet from his account in response to a news story – headlined: 'Peters blames 'alt-right' for UN migration pact criticism' – stated that he was "coming to get" the Prime Minister and her deputy….
He tweeted? – "Have a good break coz you're going to need it. Next year will likely be your Annus Horibilis because we are coming to get you."…
Moffett is an Australian who took over as New Zealand Rugby boss in 1996 as the sport moved officially into the pay-for-play era…
He quit as chief executive at the end of 2000 and was replaced by David Rutherford…
(Should we deport this Australian back home as if he is offending our society and provoking dissent in our political processes?)
(25/7/2019 https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/25-07-2019/nzs-resurgent-new-conservatives-riding-the-culture-wars-to-the-2020-election/ In contrast to Costello, the volatile former rugby executive David Moffett is no longer involved, after briefly serving on the board.)
More than enough said.
“On warm and damp sites, radiata stands could be a nurse crop for native forest. As long as seed sources were available, the carbon dioxide reservoirs would ultimately change to become native forest, Mason said.”
Yes! And yes again!
“At the third day of the environment committee's Christchurch hearings into the Climate Change Amendment (Zero Carbon) Bill, University of Canterbury forestry professor Euan Mason said the case for using exotic trees, such as pines and eucalypts, to capture carbon dioxide was compelling.“
https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/115098780/carbon-dioxidecapturing-pine-forests-could-be-nurseries-for-native-stands
Now we are talking!
(I have read that we should not be thinking of eucalypts as they are too fire-prone, we need less resinous things. Pines are bad enough.)
Fire prone or Fire resistant?
Lots of places in the world are fire prone and have the forests which go with it, like Southern France which has types of Oak
"Big-name advertisers are turning their backs on shock jock Alan Jones amid widespread condemnation over his "appalling" comments about New Zealand leader Jacinda Ardern."
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12259897
Those who are most wary of power deserve our trust with it: https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/08/green-mp-chl-e-swarbrick-frequently-thinks-about-leaving-parliament.html
We need intelligent young people like Chlöe Swarbrick in Parliament.
Winston Peters is having surgery on his leg this week. I hope everything goes well and he has a quick recovery.
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/winston-peters-undergo-surgery-leg-possible-old-rugby-injury
George frank and ..brave..
https://youtu.be/mnJnmJhHRd8
those lists blip use to make… must be a big one for labour now.. expecting him to post it anyday