Open mike 20/08/2019

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  1. Panda 1

    Just perusing the Herald and noticed our PM coming up live talking to Mike Hosking. Is there a reason she talks to Hosking and not a real journalist?  It seems a waste of  her precious time. Much like if she were to be interviewed by Mark Richardson.

    • Rapunzel 1.1

      Probably to not do so would result in headlines that the govt, the PM in particular is avoiding "media" for some reason. 

      Whereas and no one calling Brownlee to account except Breakfast News yesterday with an interesting interview from the "clients" perceptions of what they and the current government have to deal with over Southern (lack of) Response.

    • Dukeofurl 1.2

      Hosking has a moderate rating  morning  news show.

      He never built the audience , that was Paul Holmes, he just  took it over after Holmes retired.

      • greywarshark 1.2.1

        So he followed in Holmes footsteps.    Holmes is dead now, so keep right on whinging Hosking you are fated to be feted.

      • alwyn 1.2.2

        Paul Holmes took over of course from an even more successful presenter by the name of Merv Smith.

        I doubt if Hosking's employers are unhappy of course. He gets them record audiences after all.

        • Dukeofurl

          Thats not true .

          News talk ZB was launched  with  Paul Holmes – and a tiny audience.

          "Previous breakfast host Merv Smith has taken most of his audience to rival Radio i

          The operative word is NEWS , later during the day its was more talkback

          • alwyn

            I'll take your word for it that they were different types of program. I never listened to either of them and just took them to be morning radio as a generic item.

            Calling it a moderate rating seems a bit of beam though. It appears to be easily the highest of the Auckland morning shows from the reported ratings.

            The best of the talkback hosts was, I thought, Brian Edwards when he was on Radio Windy here in Wellington in the early 70's. He was only on for a couple of years but my God he was good.

            He was the only one I ever heard who could get out of person what they wanted to say and then move on to the next one. I never heard him cut off a caller in mid sentence.

            • In Vino

              Yes, alwyn – as I remember, Brian Edwards was one of the best things our TV and Radio media discovered – until some idiot axed him from National Radio Sat morning.  Quality is not always valued by some people in positions of power…

              • alwyn

                I fear we will have to agree to disagree about him leaving the Saturday morning program. He seemed to have got tired and disinterested toward the end of that era. In the early days he was very good. Towards the end though all the preparation seemed to have been done by other people and was as if he had only seen the material just before he went on.

                At Talkback, and on TVNZ he had been the master but on Saturday Morning he only seemed to be going through the motions. That is only a personal opinion of course. I am quite willing to believe that other people had different ideas.

    • Puckish Rogue 1.3

      " Is there a reason she talks to Hosking and not a real journalist? "

      Because the evil VRWC control the media and are making her do it

    • David 1.4

      Agree, her doing this slot seems a bit pointless really. She never answers the questions and only does the interview when visiting the country.

      • Muttonbird 1.4.1

        Thank god Mike spat the dummy and quit TVNZ. We won't have to endure his moderation of the election debates. 

        • Sacha

          They may try to bring him back especially, due to his 'talent'.

        • Wensleydale

          And Seven Sharp is almost watchable these days. I mean, it's still mostly vacuous drivel of little substance, but Hilary Barry and Jeremy Wells are infinitely more palatable than a sneering sphincter with a much younger man's haircut. And if you're really desperate for your sadomasochistic dose of Hosking, Jeremy's hilarious impersonation is far superior to the genuine article.

      • greywarshark 1.4.2

        David you seem a little sour.   I was talking today to a David who works in his own garage doing all the things that cars need doing to them.   Good sort, and a good mechanic.   Knows he is a good person and gets on doing his helpful thing in society.   

        What do you do David X – apart from whinging and putting down, – (apparently our PM 'She never answers the questions') and generally spreading yourself around like a spray of toxic gunk. 

        Do you feel you aren't a good person and that depresses you?   Answer – go out and help ordinary people with something they want to do and be friendly and useful.

        • David

          i spend most of my time, when not engaged in a myriad of hobbies, maintaining native bush in our local area. Not sure the relevance of that in your (and I’ll be kind) comment, but thanks for asking. 

          • greywarshark

            Oh I was worried about you.   It can be bad for the health sitting at a computer and making jibes at earnest people trying to make life better.   Especially when its a PM who is up against huge structural odds then has citizens with cutters trying to bring down our tall poppies.   Keep up the green work,. but don't forget that caring people need nurturing too.

            • David

              My health is fine thanks. Really not sure what your point is. Something about what I do for a job, my health and the PM having “huge structural odds” whatever this is. Can’t get the connection at all. Sorry.

      • Red Blooded One 1.4.3

        Even if your lame attempt to suggest JA is away from the country any more than any other Prime Minister, Jacinda Ardern, if only in the country 10% of her time, would still be a greater asset to this country than you David, whinging and whining 100% of the time. You seem a bit pointless really. 

      • Jimmy 1.4.4

        I agree, Mike shouldn't bother interviewing her as she can never answer anything. Stuart Nash and Mark Mitchell are much better on Wednesdays.

        • Wensleydale

          It's not so much that she doesn't answer anything; she just doesn't answer in the way Mike desperately wants her to answer. All those carefully crafted 'gotcha' questions going to waste… it's a pity, really. She's got Hosking's number and refuses to play his game, and that must really rankle. Mike's being humoured, like you would an obstinate toddler, and I'm sure at some level he's aware of it. Then again…

          • Jimmy

            I would say the opposite.In between the numerous um's and ah's, she is always badly prepared, and comes across terribly. I would say Hosking has her number. Unfortunately for her, he asks "hard" questions she cant answer. Winston is far more an expert at that….maybe Hosking should interview him on Tuesdays.  

        • David

          Exactly. Don’t agree with everything he says but at least Nash has a broad awareness of what’s going on.

  2. something to take into consideration when deciding on the legalisation of cannabis..

    it details/confirms how the war on drugs was started by nixon – purely as a vehicle to target the hippies and the black panthers..

    • Dukeofurl 2.1

      A bit of 'post hoc rationalisation'

      "According to Baum, Ehrlichman said in 1994 that the drug war was a ploy to undermine Nixon's political opposition — meaning, black people and critics of the Vietnam War:

      Its not as though we  now dont know if  restricting drug access will reduce drug use. It does.

      And because?

      "America's latest drug epidemic provides some evidence for Caulkins's claims. In the past couple decades, doctors loosened access to very addictive and potentially deadly opioid painkillers. Painkiller abuse exploded, leading not just to more overdose deaths but to people trying other opioids, such as heroin, and overdosing on those as well. So more access led to more abuse and deaths."

      • phillip ure 2.1.1

        'Its not as though we  now dont know if  restricting drug access will reduce drug use. It does.'

        um..!…we have one of worlds' highest use of cannabis –

        no heroin here so the (worse?) homebake industry exploded..

        no access to cheap cocaine here (most expensive in world?) – so (the much much worse) 'p' happened..

        (and as a footnote – the solution to opioid-addiction here has long been to lock people into the life-long addiction of methadone..(!)..utter-fucken-madness..!..)

        so clearly restricting use has not worked..

        and now thanks to the sterling efforts of chloe swarbrick and others we have a class a policy not too different from uruguay..

        (in early 2000's (?) uruguay had a massive heroin epidemic – dead addicts in streets that drove them to be the pioneers in treating addiction as a health issue..not a crime issue.

        they (semi)-legalised all drugs – and mandated that anyone caught in posession of class a drugs be referred to medical support – not locked up..

        this has been a resounding success for them – with overdose deaths etc dropping radically…

        so that is what a sane class a policy looks like – and it is pretty much what we now have here..

        legalising the least harmful of all intoxicants – cannabis – is just a footnote to all that – really..

        the american issue of big-pharma and doctors colluding to push fentanyl an entirely different issue..

        and yr attemt to link the two could well have caused you a serious groin-stretch – hope it didn't hurt too much..

        • Peter Christchurh nz

          Phillip, do you not think though that cannabis is already de facto legal in NZ?

          Let's be honest, we can buy it more easily than alcohol should we choose. And the Police have long since ceased to enforce the law unless compelled to, and the courts in the few large scale growers cases treat it as a misdemeanor. 

          As much as I deplore drugs, I support it being legal as the current defecto legal situation makes a mockery of the law, and the Police. 

          • phillip ure

            @ peter chch..

            maybe it is not so defacto legal if you are young and brown – as just one example..

            and i am pretty sure 'large scale growers' are still being locked up..

            and i agree with yr final sentence..

            • Peter Christchurh nz

              You may well be right, I am talking from a ChCh perspective which may well be different than from, say, South Auckland.

              I hate drugs, as my step son died from Sin. But I would much rather we, as a society,  be honest. So yes, in the referendum I will vote to make mj legal.

          • WeTheBleeple

            Cannabis is getting hard(er) to find, and people are instead being offered synthetics and P. The methadone program is a lifelong enslavement – 'liquid handcuffs' it is called by users. 

            American pharmaceutical companies spend exorbitant amounts pushing their drugs on the American public. It's an absolute shambles and sham. Many politicians in their pockets too.

          • Augustus

            Don't worry, there are plenty of deputy sheriffs/curtain twitchers willing to compel the police.

            Maybe we should have a website where everyone could put up their reckons about anybody else, and compel the police to investigate all of it. 

  3. Pat 3


    According to the historians at the Ministry of Heritage and Culture:

    “With the conservative parties being well and truly trounced by Labour at the 1935 election, the Legion was soon forgotten. Some of its members, though, became active in the new National Party formed in 1936. Eight former Legionnaires were selected as National candidates in the 1938 election, and the movement’s greatest success story, Sid Holland, went on to serve as National Prime Minister from 1949 to 1957.”

  4. Gosman 4

    Zimbabwe's government has decided that the only way out of the mess they got themselves in is by following a neoliberal path (of course they aren't going to do that because they are too addicted to big government and corruption).

  5. Gosman 5

    For all those here who blame the Venezuelan economic and social collapse on sanctions by Western nations do you think the same applies to Zimbabwe? SADC members obviously do.

  6. Kevin 6

    Only a matter of time before the underdogs got the technology to make a difference in the Saudi war on the Houthi's.

    • Brigid 6.1

      That's damned good news. Intelligence and wit against brute force and arrogance.

      The comments are interesting too.

  7. Muttonbird 7

    I was thinking about Magic Squawk yesterday.

    Plunkett had apparently trawled social media for evidence of Eden Park boof-heads booing the Prime Minister and called it news.

    The rebrand of Radio live came complete with a cleanout of women it seems. And a cleanout of rational, progressive voices too.

    Amanda Gillies lays into her own employers about their stale, pale, male recruitment policy.

    • Rapunzel 7.1

      They do have a "token" in  Leah Panapa at night, she took over from Mitch Harris. Harris was an entertaining host at night and cover all sorts of things, one thing he ended up saying was that he was not a leftie of any sort – very middle of the road I think – but had found he was having to defend left politics and the govt and PM because of the constant and unfettered vitriol, rumour and lies he had been witness to in private and in public. For me that station is a total turnoff now – perhaps it's time their advertisers were made aware of that so they can consider whether their market is as big as it might be.

  8. Jimmy 8

    A number of people I know that were at Eden park said she was booed so I believe it did happen. 

    IMO its bloody rude to boo any politician whichever colour you support. At least no one threw a dildo or mud at her!

  9. Muttonbird 9

    Garner proves he can't walk the walk on violence towards women.

    Like James of this parish, presumably Garner is ok with Alan Jones' comments because they were directed at Jacinda Ardern.

  10. Treaty O'€™Rome 10

    England’s  “No Deal” Brexit is only  “no deal” for now. 

    46% of UK exports go to the EU and 

    53% of UK imports come from the EU. 

    England will have to come to a negotiating table at some stage. 

    England’s threats to **** Ireland by hindering the 475,000 containers, that travel by the road through England and the Channel ports to the EU, will backfire. The UK exports more to Ireland than to China. Ireland is its 5th largest export market. Irish firms employ more in the UK than than the other way around. UK have their second largest trade surplus with Ireland. 

    In 1953, when Winston Churchill was PM for the last time, 91% of Irish exports went to the UK. Today that figure is 11% and falling. 

    In 1995 Irish income per capita was €13,834 and rose to €40,665 in 2018: growth of 192%.

    In 1995 UK income was £21,716 and rose to £30,594 in 2018: growth of 41%.

    Exports of Goods and Services per employed person in Ireland is €126,630.  The UK figure is €17.627.

    Total trade as a % of GDP is 77% in EU overall.

    In the UK it is 54%.

    In Ireland it is 178%. 

    A “no deal” Brexit choice by Westminster will damage everyone: but the UK will be hurt more than everyone else.

    A “no deal” and walk away will last a very short time. Then England has to come to the negotiations table on even weaker terms. 

    This post is based on an Financial Times piece on August 18th by David McWilliams.

    [Corrected typo in user name. Can you please provide a link?]

  11. Treaty O’Rome 11

    [Please check that you type your user name correctly, you are wasting moderator time – Incognito]

    • Incognito 11.1

      See my Moderation note @ 12:21 PM.

    • greywarshark 11.2

      Don't muck up your name Treatyrome – that bunch of facts is interesting and useful, but knowing the source is important, whoever you are.

      • Dukeofurl 11.2.1

        Its hardly news.

        All NZs imports goes through Customs too….doesnt stop it happening.

        Reality is only a fraction  in NZ is inspected by Customs and UK will be no different.

        Plus giving 'average EU'  exports to Britain arent much help.

        Its the detail that matters , 20% of German cars go to Britain.  Food exports from France to Britain are overwelming from  Northern France, same goes for those small  'industrialised farming' countries of  Netherlands and Denmark

        Project Fear failed after the referendum result was announced, as all the dire predictions didnt eventuate. There was supposed to be immediate recession in UK , that didnt happen .  Because UK is not in Euro zone  they havent been burdened by the single currency and its orphans , Greece Spain Italy etc

        • greywarshark

          What would happen if we adopted another way of fixing exchange rates in the world, pegged currencies for 3 months for instance, then released for adjustment in each trading area in the first week of the next quarter?   There would be a volume of speculative trading and then settle wouldn't it?   The areas would be spread out so rebalancing in different months.

          • Dukeofurl

            Speculative trading  happens 1 month , 3 months , 6 months out too.

            The futures trading doesnt use 'real money'  they just have a computer entry, which could be traded 100x in a single day, or  when the reef fish get going , in hours.

            The trader  'owning' the  computer entry on the day it  comes due then has to  buy  real currency to pay the  debt. ( and vice versa if they are selling) Thats the only time real money comes into it.

            All futures markets work like that, or similar depending on the  exchanges rules. 

    • Agora 11.3

      Brexit has conceptual similarities with apart-heit or apartheid, which seems to mean living apart. There may be valid reasons for worrying about other separatist tendencies.

      • Dukeofurl 11.3.1

        really ?

        They  have absolutely no  similarities. It was based on RACE in one country

        'During apartheid, people were divided into four racial groups and separated by law The system was used to deny many basic rights to non-White people, mainly Black people who lived in South Africa.

  12. weka 12

    Everytime you change something in the name and email text box when commenting, the system will treat you as a first time commenter and your first comment will be held for approval.

  13. greywarshark 13

    Here is Beth Miller a young candidate for Corby plus E.N. who speaks first to the local meeting and then welcomes Jeremy Corbyn who speaks in full.  He gets a big clap when he says that the NHS is not for sale.    This is a very recent speech and he explains the moves planned around the September-October period and what will happen after if he can steer things back to the people to ensure a real change of direction for good for the UK.

  14. greywarshark 14

    If the UK people don’t gather themselves and launch themselves against this poisoned Brexit deal, the EU will never forgive the UK for sh…g on them, and upsetting the reciprocal relationships in place since the 1970s. Friendly relations will be renewed cautiously but will always have this cloud of resentment and distrust behind.

    UK people who have been able to choose where to live with a wide area to choose from will find it more difficult, even be frozen out from where they have settled.   They may find it better to leave the sunny climes and return back to England; the European natives may forget their English and not be at all helpful, or want a good recompense for dealing with anyone speaking English whether from the UK or not.   So that Brexit may leave a nasty smell lingering that all of us have to try and dispel when visiting Europe.  Brexit: EU migration rules 'to end straight after no-deal'

  15. greywarshark 15

    Boorish goes to France.   This sounds like a good title for a small satirical series, or a chapter in a book, about a naughty bullying boy who travels about making himself objectionable and who gets his come-uppance wherever he goes.   You'll EU Turn….
    Britain Votes Brexit – All the latest news on Britain leaving the EU
    THE PM believes Emmanuel Macron and Angela Macron will cave over their Brexit red lines as he jets off to Paris for crucial talks. He told: 'Of course, our friends …

    This must be what many are wishing for Boorish:
    Bad Sir Brian Botany by AA Milne

    Sir Brian went a journey and he found a lot of duckweed.
    They pulled him out and dried him and they blipped him on the head.
    They took him by the breeches
    And they hurled him into ditches
    And they pushed him under waterfalls and this is what they said:

    "You are Sir Brian — don't laugh!
    "You are Sir Brian — don't cry!
    "You are Sir Brian
    "As bold as a lion —
    "Sir Brian the Lion, goodbye!

    • greywarshark 15.1

      For those who look for light relief from solemn Brexit considerations.

      Here is Fascinating Aida – So sorry Scotland.  (There is some bad language – warning.   I like the way that Farage rhymes with mirage when singing about the NHS millions.)

  16. marty mars 16

    time to see if the tears and horror were fake or real Andy – time for you to be honest

    Prince Andrew should give sworn testimony on “everything he knows” about his friend Jeffrey Epstein after saying he was appalled by the disgraced financier’s sex crimes, lawyers for some of Epstein’s victims have said.

    …“I look forward to coordinating a formal deposition where he will be given the opportunity to tell us everything he knows,” Brad Edwards, a lawyer for Giuffre, told the Guardian on Monday. “We would like to do this as soon as possible, at his convenience, and again we are very appreciative of his willingness to help.”

    …In a statement released on Sunday, Buckingham Palace said Andrew was “appalled by the recent reports of Jeffrey Epstein’s alleged crimes”. It said he “deplores the exploitation of any human being and the suggestion he would condone, participate in or encourage any such behaviour is abhorrent”.

    Allies of Epstein’s victims noted that Andrew stood by Epstein even after some of his offending came to light. Over the weekend the Mail on Sunday published new photographs of Andrew’s visit to Epstein’s $56m home in December 2010 – two years after the money manager pleaded guilty to soliciting prostitution from a minor.

  17. greywarshark 17

    Saw this in the frontispiece of a book about a woman, Madame Fourcade, who was a leader in the spy network against the Nazis.

    They appeared from out of the shadows, and suddenly you felt that you had always known them.  The connection formed by a threat to one's country is the strongest connection of all.  People adopt one another, march together.  Only capture or death can tear them apart.

    Marie-Madeleine Fourcade*

    This applies to us all now, we are in the early skirmishes of a war.  I have been reading about early Nazism.   And the turning of populations against their Jewish neighbours, who appear to have been hard-working, good people who were loyal citizens.    Why should they have been treated so badly, what poison was in leader's heads to influence them to beleaguer the Jews, harass them, turn the populace against them.   I didn't realise how Hungary after WW1 continually limited their lives and denied them the rights of respected citizens, gradually oppressing them more.

    I notice that we are following a similar path against the poor, and particularly people of colour when the RW gain dominance, and we must learn from the past.  It is necessary to nurture each other who are prepared to examine and fashion our ideas to make them practical to adopt for the greater good.   So can we stop the tendency to attack those coming from the left with ideas for consideration, and particularly those working for all people and the environment?   They are too often harrassed because they don't express themselves rightly according to the critic.  

    We must not drown out each other on one topic that is only one amongst many that require consideration and adoption.   To keep reminding us of its importance, and how others are dealing with it is good.   But its an indulgence to try and swamp the site and pick fights about other viewpoints.   There needs to be thought about our reality, and it is hard enough to face, without being confronted by screeds on someone's obsession.   

    * Madame Fourcade's Secret War  by Lynne Olson

  18. marty mars 18

    very touching

    Caroline Chevin shared a heartfelt tribute to her husband Greg Boyed, one year after his death.

    "365 days without your warm and generous heart," she wrote on Facebook.

  19. Hey Puck! Was Jude wearing a solemn little number in a funerial black today (albeit dripping with some fake silver cascading downwards broach to try an jooosh it up a bit) in QT because of anything in particular?

    She sure as shit looked like the undertaker

    • Wensleydale 19.1

      Stop picking on Pucky. God knows he has enough issues to work through without you rubbing his nose in them. He probably still hasn't got around to dismantling the shrine he built in his living room.

    • Puckish Rogue 19.2

      Its not very nice to judge someone else fashion sense, female MPs especially have a hard enough time as is adhering to whatever rules men try to foist on them

      If you don't like her policies that's fine but to talk about what shes wearing is just so…I don't know 1950s

      • greywarshark 19.2.1

        All's fair in love and war they say.   She was going to crush my steam roller with hers so that's the end of love to me.

      • ianmac 19.2.2

        Nick Smith "won" an urgent debate on the "failure" of the Census. And he was passionate, hysterical though wildly inaccurate. Interesting that the Opposition side of the House was almost empty for the Smith rant.

        Mr Shaw's response was clear concise and accurate. Seemed credible to me with the Review and commentary from experts supporting the view that the results from the Census turn out to be excellent.

        • McFlock

          we-ell I wouldn't say "excellent". The delay fucking bites, and some of the granularity in cuts is dubious. But overall it doesn't screw up too many people, I think.

          Less impact than an earthquake, at any rate. Some of our denominators got quite squiffy for a while there…

          • ianmac

            In the past, it took several years for some results to be published. So not unusual in delays.

            And the means of collecting data from Government Stats is so good that formal Census may not be required in a few more cycles. And that was what the previous Govt  underlying plan was aiming for. Hypocrites!

        • Dukeofurl

          After the Kaikoura earthquake wrecked Stats office  in Wellington , they asked for $5 mill more , they got $2 mill.

          It was always about screwing the department down to run it on an oily rag.

          Thats why the plan was for 3000 or so ground staff,  reduced  down to 2000 or so then   when the time came it was 900 – as they had no money to pay for more

  20. greywarshark 20

    If you want a really good run down on climate change and what to expect, the google keywords 'Why everything will collapse' is very interesting.   I won't put up the link, there are quite a few.   Have a bracing drink handy and perhaps go on to youtube and see Happy by Pharrell Williams.    I love all the people doing their thing and the wee kids – everyone tripping the light fantastic for the cameras.

  21. Eco maori 21

    Whanau our Papatuanuku temperature and weather stability will be lossed if we don't change our society back to a no frills society that doesn't burn carbon we have to make changes to the whole systems around Papatuanuku to save our environment from the oil barons. 


    Earth's future in being written in fast-melting Greenland.

    This is where Earth's refrigerator door is left open, where glaciers dwindle and seas begin to rise.

    New York University air and ocean scientist David Holland, who is tracking what's happening in Greenland from both above and below, calls it "the end of the planet." He is referring to geography more than the future. Yet in many ways this place is where the planet's warmer and watery future is being written.

    It is so warm here, just inside the Arctic Circle, that on an August day, coats are left on the ground and Holland and colleagues work on the watery melting ice without gloves. In one of the closest towns, Kulusuk, the morning temperature reached a shirtsleeve 10.7 degrees Celsius

    This is where Earth's refrigerator door is left open, where glaciers dwindle and seas begin to rise.

    New York University air and ocean scientist David Holland, who is tracking what's happening in Greenland from both above and below, calls it "the end of the planet." He is referring to geography more than the future. Yet in many ways this place is where the planet's warmer and watery future is being written.

    It is so warm here, just inside the Arctic Circle, that on an August day, coats are left on the ground and Holland and colleagues work on the watery melting ice without gloves. In one of the closest towns, Kulusuk, the morning temperature reached a shirtsleeve 10.7 degrees Celsius.

    It takes a really long time to grow an ice sheet, thousands and thousands of years, but they can be broken up or destroyed quite rapidly," Holland said

    In tiny Kulusuk, about a 40-minute helicopter ride away, Mugu Utuaq says the winter that used to last as much as 10 months when he was a boy can now be as short as five months. That matters to him because as the fourth-ranked dogsledder in Greenland, he has 23 dogs and needs to race them.They can't race in the summer, but they still have to eat. So Utuaq and friends go whale hunting with rifles in small boats. If they succeed, which this day they didn't, the dogs can eat whale.People are getting rid of their dogs because there's no season," said Yewlin, who goes by one name. He used to run a sled dog team for tourists at a hotel in neighbouring Tasiilaq, but they no longer can do that.

    Ka kite Ano link below .


  22. Eco maori 22

    Kia Ora Newshub . 

    That's awesome that the courts gave those PEE importers 20 +years jail.

    Our city's needed to become more effective in building housing and apartments the new laws should help with new building constructions . 

    I thank the Australian courts for not letting off a powerful person Pel from charges of abuseing people in his realm . 

    With those dates whanau you know who changed the law so refugees from Africa and the Middle East could not get into Aotearoa shonky. 

    Some tamariki these days have no respect or motivation to get up and go to school is Jamie getting bullyed at school .? ?? 

    Ingrid there is snow on the Moanga just behind my Whare it cool  

    Ka kite Ano 



  23. Eco maori 23

    Kia Ora Te Ao Maori News .

    TVNZ and RadioNZ merger I guess it too find efficiency because TVNZ is forecasting a loss in 2020 . 

    The Maori King is correct not all the blame lays at the Government feet some Maori needs to learn to treat there  Pepi and tamariki like the taounga treasure gifts from Te Atua.

    I say that the changes to the prison system will have positive effect on the prisoners our Coalition Government is making changes the last lot just denied that there was a problem and swept it under the carpet .

    The Maori youth Mp I was told the same story that Maori sold our whenua for blankets and tobacco when I was about your age  .

    I back the ban on smoking in waka with tamariki in the car with smokers. I agree with Te Wahine that the system is mono cultural Maori are excluded from all the best things that Aotearoa has to offer .

    Ka kite Ano 

    • greywarshark 23.1

      Don't like the idea of Radionz merging with tvnz.    They have different cultures and i don't want Radionz watered down by television's moth habits of being attracted to the nearest bright light. 

      In late July the state-owned broadcaster flagged to the Government that it was expecting to make a $17.1 million loss in the year to June 2020.

      If that's the case, it will be the first loss for TVNZ since its deficit of $26m in 2010 when the global recession was having a heavy impact on the media industry's revenue.

      And some strong comment from Media Works.   Isn't this the crowd that we have nursed, forgiven licence fee etc.?    Do they have friends in the Beehive that they can sting?

      On Tuesday, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said she was of the view there should be an organisation dedicated to making sure New Zealand's stories were told, but wouldn't say whether there was any plan to bring back TVNZ's charter or make TV One free of ads.

      MediaWorks would love for TVNZ and RNZ to merge as one ad-free state-owned media giant, allowing it to mop up any leftover advertising. It has even gone as far as threatening to pull out of television if "structural anomalies" in the media market were not addressed….

      TVNZ chief executive Kevin Kenrick told a tech symposium last week that it recently met with its shareholder, the Government, and asked whether it accepted that TVNZ was competing against global players prepared to lose billions of dollars a year and whether TVNZ should be focused on dividend maximisation or investing in its future.

  24. greywarshark 24

    Alan Jones is 78 – it's a good case of making people retire at 65 so that somebody else can have a go atentrancing the punters with their fine oratory.  It isn't surprising to see that he is calling himself a victim now.

    Australian broadcaster Alan Jones says he is a victim of a ruthless social media campaign but remains unfazed by the mass exodus of advertisers.

    "It seems to be OK that you can, in social media, about Alan Jones say, 'We should kill him'," he told Nine News. "The language being used about me is extraordinary."

    "I've got no comment about the advertisers, they can make their own judgment – but they go, there will be others to take their place."

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    With all the electricity competition how can it be that a strategic business like the Marsen oil refining near Whangarei is not making a profit?

    Refining New Zealand, itself part-owned by the major fuel companies BP, Mobil and Z Energy, reported a net loss for the first half of the year of $3.5m, a 24 percent greater loss than the previous year.

    The company's chief executive Mike Fuge said its processing units were running reliably during the period, but a combination of factors meant the refinery could not make the most of the good operational performance.

    "Our performance was negatively impacted by high electricity prices in the market, weakness of refining margins since the beginning of the year driven by low gasoline prices, and reduced access to natural gas because of on-going maintenance on the Pohukura gas field," Mr Fuge said.

  26. Eco maori 26

    Kia Ora The Am Show  

    Its excellent that some tamariki will be able to be signed up to Kiwi Saver that will help them climb up there ladders of life into a whare  . It was you m8s national who stopped the $1000. kick-start for joining Kiwi Saver the business persons cutting budget that affect the common person negativey the MOST. 

    Thank you Foodstuff for reducing the amount of plastic waste you use in selling your products  . Pack n Save have put there empty boxes at there packing benches for years I most times used the boxes to minimise the plastic waste and save putea. 

    Lioyd the Lockness monster that's a great story there are quite a few things that scientists can not explain scientifically in our Universe and Papatuanuku . 

    The initiative Jay getting Rangatahi to look for opportunities to better them selves .

    Ka kite Ano 



  27. Eco maori 27

    Some Eco Maori Music For The Minute  

  28. Eco maori 28

    Kia Ora Te Ao Maori News .

    The 14 million extra money to help people in Porirua develop their literacy skills is awesome Ka pai.

    Why isn't tangata whenua o Aotearoa in Turangi getting allocated water rights? ? I know that the aquifers in Turangi are under a lot of pressure from all the horticultural getting grown there. I agree that tutai should not be getting into the Awa and Tangaroa in Turangi 

    I agree that our Coalition government is making moves in the TV broadcasting industry to make it easier for broadcaster to operate. 

    The Hawiian people are educating there people about Hawiian culture that excellent Te Wahine sounded happy to have Tangata Whenua O Aotearoa there teaching about our Culture. 

    I say the Wahine is correct we do learn differently I have studied solar and wind energy for years but the real learning started when Eco Maori built my own system hands on learning is best for me  

    Ka kite Ano 


  29. Eco maori 29

    Kia Ora The Am Show  

    36 thousands lightning strikes in Aotearoa that's how much Mana Tawhirimate has . This is the new norm extreme weather. 

    Tuhoe working with oranga tamariki is great let's hope all tarakihi get treated with love and care  


    With our farmers I have grave concerns with the lack of erosion control on the steep gradient farms with no trees in the gullys and small waterways I say legislate it so at a certain gradient that these areas have to be planted in native trees as the exotic trees are not suited to the long-term goal of stopping erosion +Aotearoa native wildlife can feed off our natural native fauna.

    Congratulations Quentin have a tamariki will change your life  .

    Judy I had guessed that there was no reporting on that phenomenon   .

    Maggie Marilyn fighting fast fashion Eco Maori tau toko your Idear tracing the manufacturer of your garment.trying to make sure your product have a sestanable as possible foot print getting your garments made in Aotearoa cool .

    The new trend will be buying preloved stuff much better for our ENVIRONMENT .

    Breakfast is the main meal of the day porridge with a little cream and no or a small amount of sugar quarter tea spoon it get the digest system working over time and is a super food like kumara is .  Thanks to the African nations for putting giraffes on a list to ban the trade in their boby parts
    And not letting country’s sell El
    Ka kite Ano 


  30. Eco maori 30

    Here you go whanau some morning news show reports on story's that are not factual like the tangata whenua one this morning and the polls are manipulate to get the results they want sometimes that is to give someone mud to throw at Eco Maori .This post gives the factual story on what's actually going on .I new that the story about cats causing the death of our dolphins was Hog wash a distraction as soon as I read it this is what rightys capitalist do lie cheat and other things to win

    There's a battle brewing over the future of one of New Zealand's rarest and most precious native creatures. 

    As the situation gets more and more dire for the critically endangered Māui dolphin, three of New Zealand's most prominent environmental organisations are in the midst of a public spat over competing plans for how to best protect the Māui and Hector's dolphin from extinction. 

    There are just 15,000 of the endangered Hector's dolphins left. The subspecies Māui dolphin is estimated to have just 57 left, making them critically endangered.

    The government is considering four options for how to regulate activity in the dolphin's habitat, with four different levels of protection

    The fishing industry is split on whether to fight the regulations or support them, and conservationist groups have widely criticised everything the government put forward


    Part of the problem with agreeing on a plan to protect the dolphins is that there isn't even any agreement on what is killing them.There are three main things which pose risks to the dolphins: fishing, seabed drilling, and disease

    Becoming entangled in fishing nets by most accounts seems to be the largest risk for the dolphins. According to Stats NZ, entanglement in fishing gear accounted for up to 71.4 per cent of the 301 Hector's and Māui dolphin deaths for which a cause of death was determined between 1921 and 2015. Natural causes was the second largest cause of death. 

    But Seafood NZ CEO Tim Pankhurst claims there is an "environmentally-driven, anti-fishing agenda" working against him. He attempted to shift the blame away from fishing to a natural deases . 

    Toxoplasmosis is a parasite often spread by cat faeces. It can affect humans, and that runoff into the ocean may affect the dolphins as well. New Zealanders don't want to gamble with the extinction of dolphins … It is not the time to play games of chance, it is our last chance to act, and the Government must do so."

    Both Forest & Bird and Greenpeace's proposals are actually very similar to the WWF proposal for the most part, they just want more precautionary measures. 

    While WWF wants to make the restricted areas smaller if research can provide more specific information on the dolphins habitat, the other organisations would rather keep it wide and play it safe, with a total ban on set netting and trawling, as well as all oil drilling and seismic surveys, in the habitat. 

    Ka kite Ano link below .

  31. Eco maori 31

    Some Eco Maori Music For The Minute .

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    Here you go Whanau the underbelly of New Zealand

    The officer pushed out of police

    A former Auckland police officer says she was pushed out of the force after being approached to access information from the police database – and refusing. 

    Victoria Kirichuk, whose family moved to New Zealand from the Ukraine in 2002, says she was approached and offered three times her constable's salary in exchange for confidential police information. 

    After rejecting the offer and laying a complaint with police, she says she and her family became victims of a prolonged harassment campaign by associates of the person who made the recruitment attempt. She eventually lost her job after nine years with the police. 

    At the time, Kirichuk's father Alexander was an intended business partner of the then-director of the Waiwera group of companies, Mikhail Khimich. It was at a dinner party where guests included a number of people involved with Waiwera operations that Victoria Kirichuk says she was approached.

    Newsroom has documented other aspects of the Waiwera business failure and the personal and business issues surrounding Khimich in this story

    Documents show the Kirichuks laid multiple complaints – with police, the IPCA, OIO, IPONZ, Immigration NZ, OFCANZ, the Auckland Council, the Human Rights Commission and the SIS – complaints which appear to have never been properly investigated.

    Ka kite Ano link below.

  33. Eco maori 33

    Kia Ora Newshub .

    A upgrade of Papakura trains and a train Station in Papakura cool. 

    Sorry about the dog but I say that the Christchurch authorities need to provide a venue for the young car enthusiasts   the problem is not  to fix itself  .

    I say it was great that the government looked at banning petrol and diesel cars they are not ready for that. But the electric car being subserdized by carbon vehicle is a great start  .

    The Brazilian government is not doing its best to stop that huge fire in the Amazon forest the president of Brazil deserves all the heat he is getting . 

    Plastic is finding there way into everything poisoning ourselves and our wildlife in time we will change that way we live to use thing that last for decades and not minutes.

    That's awesome Paris and her dancers being involved in the Dubai Papatuanuku show she will promote Aotearoa quite a lot with the  dancing star power.

    The study of Sharks is excellent we need to understand them more so we can learn to live in harmony with Sharks not killing them off like what is happening NOW.

    Ka kite Ano 

  34. Eco maori 34

    Kia Ora Te Ao Maori News. 

    Its great for Jasmine whanau that the police have stepped up with their investigations into her murder  . 

    Whangarei housing shortage is a stain on national. It's hard for tangata whenua to find a whare to rent all over the motu . 

    Thanks for all your years of mahi for Turangi A Kiwa Ming Foon I say you are the correct pick for our next mahi Race Relations commissioner 

    Cool showing Te kaumatu how to cost-effectively warm and inserlate there whare not everyone knows how to use the net for data .

    That was a great porwhiri for one of my favourite sports stars Steven Adams and William Apatiata teaching and mentoring the Rangatahi in North land Ka pai  . Ka kite Ano 

  35. Eco maori 35

    Eco Maori thanks all Te tangata for championing the Amazon rain forest against idiots like the oil barrons puppet the president of Brazil a rightneck capitalist who puts money before the future and before the beautiful wildlife that only exist in The Amazon Rainforest 

    Protesters besiege Brazilian embassies worldwide over Amazon fires

    Protesters join a demonstration organised by climate change activists from Extinction Rebellion outside the Brazilian embassy in central London on 23 August.

    Protesters have laid siege to Brazilian embassies around the world as international outrage over Jair Bolsonaro’s failure to protect the Amazon intensified and supporters maligned critics of the Brazilian president as leftist conspirators.

    Hundreds of demonstrators gatheredoutside Brazil’s embassy in central London on Friday with placards reading: “The planet deserves better” and “Our house is on fire”

    Bolsonaro wants to destroy the forest … and we do not want this,” one indigenous leader from Brazil told the crowd.

    There were also rallies outside Brazil’s embassies in Mexico City and Paris, where demonstrators reportedly carried banners reading: “Fora Bolsonaro!” or “Bolsonaro, out!”

    Protesters also surrounded the Brazilian consulate in Geneva while further marches were planned in cities including Adelaide, Lisbon, Stockholm, Boston and Florida

    Ka kite Ano link below .

  36. Eco maori 36

    Some Eco Maori Music For The Minute . 

  37. Eco maori 37

    Kia Ora Newshub  

    Its great that the World Leaders are putting pressure on Brazil to get their President to stop the huge fire in the Amazon . 

    trump is stamping his feet in the process he is hurting the American economy in a resission most times the president gets rolled out of office  .

    The new extreme weather is making it harder for the Southern roads open for the tourist that's part and parcel of Global warming there are a few deniers down there  . Cool that people in Africa are trying to keep the White Rino from going extinct with harvesting egg from to female that cannot breed naturally using new technology they are pioneering AWSOME  .

    Yellow Eye penguin dietn is changing I say its because of over fishing is the reason the penguins are eating jellyfish now let stop being greedy and change the way we live to save our wildlife..

    I thought about using YouTube to generate a income but the authorities will block Eco Maori with a court order ma te wait I will have my day and bring them to heal. 

    Ka kite Ano 

  38. Eco maori 38

    Kia Ora Te Ao Maori News  

    One can always find someone who is not happy Having Paris at the Dubai expo will give Aotearoa the most exposure to the World for Te putea  

    The project Ara Ngpuhi using Te reo to unlock and unite all three hapu is A great way to solve two problems with one pohatu 

    Pukana 20th year on Maori TV they have inspired heaps of Rangatahi to learn Te reo Maori Ka pai .I would have liked to learn the importance of Maori Culture 30 years ago but ha better late than never  Eco Maori can see that the Mana of Tangata Whenua O Aotearoa is being recognised all around the world

    Ahikia two sisters making candles out of recycling glass bottles is a great way to save on our waste problems and for the girls to make putea Ka pai all the best.

    Ka kite Ano .

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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Why PPPs are a bad idea
    When National was in power, they were very keen on Public-Private Partnerships (PPPs) - basicly, using private companies to finance public infrastructure as a way of hiding debt from the public. They were keen on using them for everything - roads, schools, hospitals. But as the UK shows, that "service" ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • A Movement That No Longer Moves.
    Moving And Shaking: There was a time when people spoke matter-of-factly about the “labour movement” – a political phenomenon understood to embrace much more than the Labour Party. Included within the term’s definition was the whole trade union movement – many of whose members looked upon the Labour Party as ...
    1 week ago
  • NZ ‘left’ politically embracing extreme postmodernism
    by Philip Ferguson Much of the left, even people who formally identify as marxists, have collapsed politically in the face of postmodern gender theory of the sort pioneered by American philosopher Judith Butler. For Butler even biological sex is socially constructed. “If the immutable character of sex is contested, perhaps ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • The obvious question
    The media is reporting that the (alleged) Labour party sexual assaulter has resigned from their job at Parliament, which means hopefully he won't be turning up there making people feel unsafe in future. Good. But as with everything about this scandal, it just raises other questions. Most significantly: why the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The moment I found out that you found out, I acted swiftly
    By Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern I am every bit as angry as you are. I am every bit as disappointed as you must be. The people with power, oversight and the ability to do something about these processes within the Labour Party should be ashamed. Whoever those people are, I ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • This is why people hate property developers
    Property developers think there is an "oversupply" of houses in Auckland:High turnover rates and falling prices may be a sign that there are too many new houses going in to some parts of Auckland, commentators say. [...] Property developer David Whitburn said there was a "bit of an oversupply" in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Australia to Pacific: “Fuck you, you can all drown”
    World leaders are meeting in New York in two weeks for the 2019 Climate Action Summit, where they are expected to announce new and more ambitious targets to stop the world from burning. But the Australian Prime Minister won't be there, despite being in the USA at the time:Scott Morrison ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
     Two-Faced? Labour insiders' commitment to the neoliberal status quo puts them at odds with their party’s membership; its trade union affiliates; and a majority of Labour voters, but this only serves to strengthen the perception they have of themselves as a special elite. Among the lesser breeds, they’ll talk up a ...
    1 week ago
  • Ten reasons the Tories do NOT want an election
    There has been a lot of talk about Boris Johnson wanting an election, and he has blustered with great gusto about 'chicken' Jeremy Corbyn refusing one, but I think there are many reasons why he is secretly glad he has been refused the opportunity:The Tories are an utter rabble,tearing themselves ...
    1 week ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    1 week ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    2 weeks ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 weeks ago
  • Māori Language Week with The Civilian
    Kia ora, Aotearoa. It’s that magical time of year. Te Wiki o te Reo Māori. In English, the week that frightens talk radio. As you probably know by now, all your favourite media outlets are participating, some more successfully than others. Stuff has changed its name to Puna for the ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Will Horizons act on climate change?
    Local body elections are coming up next month. And it looks like all Palmerston North candidates for Horizons (the Manawatu-Whanganui Regional Council) want to take action on climate change:Climate change is set to be a key issue in Palmerston North for the next three years if those wanting to get ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • BORA reform is stalled
    Eighteen months ago, the government promised to strengthen the Bill of Rights Act, by explicitly affirming the power of the courts to issue declarations of inconsistency and requiring Parliament to formally respond to them. So how's that going? I was curious, so I asked for all advice about the proposal. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Corbyn and Brexit
    As the Brexit saga staggers on, the focus is naturally enough on the Prime Minister and his attempts to achieve Brexit “do or die”. But the role played by the Leader of the Opposition is of almost equal interest and complexity. The first problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago
  • A ditch for him to die in
    Last week, English Prime Minister Boris Johnson boldly declared that he would rather die be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit. Unfortunately for him, the UK parliament accepted the challenge, and promptly dug one for him. The "rebellion bill" requires him to ask for and secure yet another temporary ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Warning! Warning! Danger Jacinda Ardern! Danger Marama Davidson! Warning!
    Lost In Political Space: The most important takeaway from this latest Labour sexual assault scandal, which (if I may paraphrase Nixon’s White House counsel’s, John Dean’s, infamous description of Watergate) is “growing like a cancer” on the premiership, is the Labour Party organisation’s extraordinary professional paralysis in the face of ...
    2 weeks ago

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