Dishonourable Judith Collins
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Has John Key now read Dirty Politics?
Because having set up his incredibly narrow inquiry into Judith Collins – to try and investigate her for the one thing she didn’t do – he’s now scared to give her her ‘Honourable’ title, before she is ‘cleared’.
Normally ex-Ministers get Honourable as a title for life as a matter of course. It would have probably gone unnoticed if he had given it to her. There would only be screams of wanting to remove it once she had been proven guilty of something. And while there’s a lot of proof, it’s not coming to an inquiry near you, as Key’s terms of reference are designed to whitewash.
So he must suspect that the judge is going to broaden those terms, or something else is going to become too compelling to ignore.
Let’s hope the judge does look at things properly broadly, and in the meantime, Judith will continue to fester on the backbench.
I wonder how she’ll feel about the view from her new seat?
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The difference in tone between the Herald and Andrea Vance’s reporting is interesting. Collins comes off pretty pissed at Key directly in the latter
Her fury was directed at Key: ‘‘If you are the person that is charged with telling me this then that says an awful lot about the person that should be doing it, and I am utterly disgusted.’’
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10615618/Judith-Collins-seething-at-snub
if she is telling the truth, the smiling assassin didnt have the nads to tell her himself….
but isn’t that exactly what a smiling assassin would do?
Check out the difference in the coverage in the Herald and on Fairfax. According to the Herald the news was only a “surprise” and she is “annoyed”. I guess her Herald cronies are even more “annoyed” than she is, after all the hard work they put in to her.
Ho ho ho.
key distancing himself vigorously – looks like the stiff-arm fend still works
A spokesman for Mr Key this afternoon said: “It’s the Prime Minister’s intention, should Ms Collins be cleared in the current inquiry, to recommend to the Governor General that she be granted the use of the title “The Honourable” for life.”
Alone Collins making statements about Katy Bradford the reporter is enough for me to cry foul even if she is found not guilty in Keys farce of an investigation.
Her texts of shame, china fiasco, if she’s honourable, I’m Saint Paul.
So sad for her .. her value to Oravida must have dropped sharply … shame.
Chop chop for Judith. I wonder if Oravida will order a bleach attack too.
Oravida can make her feel better by super-fasttracking her ‘canonisation’ as their patron saint even while she is politically comatosed at the moment.
Why would they do that now she’s of no use to them?
she would makea good fake advisor on corruption to make china seem like its addressing corruption
Apparently Richard Worth and Pansy Wong both got it for life, despite in Richard’s case not even serving a full term as a minister.
Elitism alive and kicking in 2014. Wong…shudders…
Well given that ejaculating on a sleeping woman’s face (according to Slater in his e-mail/facebook exchanges) wasn’t enough to be stripped of the Honourable title, do we really think it being held back from Collins is evidence she won’t get it post-inquiry?
Just more whitewash (*snicker*) I’m afraid.
god am I sorry i read your post
and it also shows what this govt thinks about
sexual harrassment, and
misusing your office for personal business…
its honourable baby
‘Honourable’ , ‘the Right honourable?’ What a load of nugatory pretentious crap.
(I imagine ms. Collins subscribes to the convention)
We want people who can govern and manage-not indulge in such meaningless self aggrandizement. I’ll vote for (nearly) anyone who rubbishes this bullshit nomenclature.
Politicians should get into the20th century…and then some.
(Tories- sorry about the big words)
After thought edit………………………….Actually I like the honorific ” Dishonourable”in this case.
“Judith Collins is honourable,” said the Red Queen.
The most dangerous thing Key could do to all opposition parties, is after already having thrown Judith to the Kerb he runs right over her on his way to showing the faithful, when he says he will keep his MP’s honest he meant it. Isn’t he great. Deflection, adoration, just a day in the life of our man Key. Isn’t he great.
Did I say how great he is.
I bet the fly on the wall at the Collins residence is getting nervous watching his mates losing wings “Does he love me, does he not”
Dear Mr/Mrs/Ms RawMadness…….insightful assessment you make in your first two paragraphs. And your last paragraph…….friend Patrick Gower wants you to write his scripts !
I wonder what Judith’s good friend Cam thinks about this???????????Watch out John.
So, what’s the stuff she’s got on Key then?
Maybe we will find out soon enough.
Yes Collins is way too smart to do anything direct while Slater is busted as an attack conduit for the time being.
Maybe some entirely new source? My instinct is that after today’s little outburst Collins will go very quiet – but she will NOT forget.
I think she will bide her time until Key is vulnerable for other reasons. And then it will be subtle.
Suddenly the funds promised after the election by the usual Chinese sources linked to Collins wont be forthcoming.
We had that after the last election, Chinese donors were very generous, but maybe not this time. Love you long time instead!
payback double vs smiling assassin
I think that the Key master plan is knowing that there will be insufficient evidence against Judith, he can make the grand gesture of reinstating her. There.
See what a strong decisive leader is John? (And if by some mischance that Judith is guilty of something Key still appears to be a decisive leader.)
Cunning.
This is a calculatedly cruel public smacking. Hero to Zero……Roxstar to Poxstar……Crusher to Crasher.
Bets on one day the political lexicon containing the line – “the lady’s not for spurning…….” ?
Nah. She’s buggered. Ya gotta give it to TheGodKey. He’s successfully quarantined Dirty Politics in one always unlovely individual. Hypocrisy high but he’s done it !
Only good thing Collins ever did was stand up to the Bain G-Train.
Your inalienable human right to hold an ignorant opinion on complex legal matters is one I’d gladly relinquish.
Well said,OAB
well go ahead and relinquish it then!
I doubt very much whether that is the last ignorant opinion we’ve heard from you.
its actually very informed opinion thanks very much.
And yet, even in this case, ignorance is a condition we all share. Personal certainty is proof of nothing.
Collins’ behaviour can be judged by Justice Binnie’s reaction, whatever the merits of Bain’s case for compensation.
surely that includes your own ‘personal certainty’…Binnie is not the last word on the matter,and little wonder why.
Did I say Binnie has the last word? No, that was you.
I said that Collins’ behaviour can be judged by Binnie’s reaction.
Binnie (among other expert jurist observations) casts doubt on the fairness (his words) of Collins’ approach. Can you smell a judicial review of the decisions made by the Minister whose office is a crime scene much?
you needn’t try and put words in my mouth…Binnies report was flawed.
And again with the red herrings.
Only clueless wingnuts still pretend that something Binnie did is relevant to Collins’ inept and prejudicial behaviour.
“He did it too!” “But but but but Llllaaaabbbboooouuuurrrr!!!!”
Heard it all before. It didn’t work at Primary School either.
based on what? if you have an informed opinion, give us the informed basis.
you left an ‘s’ off your name
you may have a different opinion but childish retorts probably dont give it much credibility.
Neither does “G-train”.
as 5 people are dead,and millions has been spent on this case,including literally hundreds of thousands of dollars on an ex football player for his legal services I think G-Train is an apt description.
And Tracey thinks you left an ‘s’ off your name and I think your personal opinion hefts as much weight as hers, or mine, for that matter.
Suck it up.
Two separate subjects: one, the Bain compensation case, and two, Judith Collins’ inept and prejudicial handling of said case.
Please observe that my argument is based on behaviour and yours is based on ad hominem red herrings.
no you have an opinion,so do I…there is no ad hominem red herring at all.Tracey can think that…you can accept she thinks that…so what!
No, your observation that someone was a football player has no relevance to your argument whatsoever, no sirree, which begs the question…why did you mention it, dim-bulb?
the relevance is this…a person with no legal qualifications booked up hundreds of thousands of dollars at $95 an hour.I see calling people names is a common occurrence with some posters.
So the courts found he’d wasted their time and none of his arguments stood up to scrutiny? Um, no. They found his arguments compelling. So you’re struggling to match a football player’s arguments.
Embarrassing much, to be judged by your own measure?
https://twitter.com/DirtyPoliticsNZ/status/521908318072107009/photo/1
Cartoon.
Cant wait to see the payback, make that double payback from Mrs Wong Tung of St Heliers.
What will the gnomes beavering away in Stonedon Dr, searching way back in the little black books of National party tricks, come up with ?
not upset for bringing legal profession into disrepute
not upset for lying about oravida visits
not upset about turning blibd eye to stolen police evidence
not upset at leaking personal details ofca public servant
not upset by leaking information to slater
not upset coubties manukau police fudging burglaries so she can crow to constituents
upset she doesnt have a title! tells you all you need to know.
Unfortunately she will be forever tarnished by her close association with Whale Oil Beef Hooked (WOBH). That looks a bit tacky but it is hardly an offence.
I predict that the current inquiry by Judge Lester Chisholm will find that she committed no offence, nor breached any convention in relation to her relationship with the CE of the SFO. The Prime Minister has indicated that if she is cleared, the Honourable title will be conferred for life.
As for the rest of you apparant smears, I have no idea what you are referring to.
yeah you see no offence cos you set all behaviour at the legal standard. lowest common denominator thinking. three act mps convicted of fraud or deceit and a former candidate on charges of defrauding the revenue. thats the standard of behaviour you vote for so I understand why you have put forks in your eyes rather than read or understand collins contraventions, including the cabinet manual which demands the “highest ethical behaviour”.
Hardly surprising: S Rylands income is dependent on governments with low ethical standards.
Well said Tracey…
exactly, I am shocked that she is shocked. Does She realise what “honorable ” means? Obviously not.
Amazing how Collins is more worried about a title the average member of public couldn’t give a toss about. It is a shame she didn’t have the same reaction to the portfolios she was meant to be looking after, ie the IPCa.
Its great to see Slater starting to turn feral on Key and English on Collins behalf.
It might end up being an unpleasant 3 years for some people but the side show is shaping up to be interesting.
what?
Watch as its all swept under the carpet.