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mickysavage - Date published:
7:30 am, December 16th, 2017 - 69 comments
Categories: Donald Trump, national, same old national, the praiseworthy and the pitiful, you couldn't make this shit up -
Tags: jami-lee ross
For much of the week the decision seemed to be an easy one to make. It was going to be Roy Moore, the Republican nominee for the Alabama seat in the senate. In the deepest of red states it should have been a cake walk for Moore. But not only did he lose the seat, thanks to a surge in support by black women who were collectively incensed at the allegations of sexual harassment of young women, but he also is still refusing to accept that he has lost the seat.
Even Donald Trump has called on Moore to stand down.
But Moore has refused to accept defeat and has refused to concede. Meanwhile supporters are complaining that voter fraud is the reason he lost. It is not clear if they think there was too much or not enough, after all this is the South.
And what do you expect from someone who thinks that the times when the south had slaves was not that bad a time?
https://twitter.com/duarteamanda/status/940806414842449927
But with a late showing Moore’s antics were put to one side and National’s Jami Lee-Ross is this week’s doofus of the week. He earned this prize after putting on a huge hissy fit in Parliament after his lunch hour was delayed by 5 minutes. Refusing to accept Jacinda Ardern’s hope for a bi partisan effort to address child poverty is bad enough, trying to stonewall the enacting bill’s passage through the house was even worse, but throwing a temper tantrum because your lunch hour has been slightly delayed takes the cake.
Watch the video and marvel at the intensity of the temper tantrum thrown by him in raising the point of order. If my three year old behaved like this I would be embarrassed.
Imagine trying to hold up the passage of a law designed to make sure kids get enough to eat just so you can have your lunch.
Jami Lee-Ross, you are the Standard’s doofus of the week.
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Don’t you know who I am?
He’s the face of new hateful scum we can expect to see heading the national party in the not-too-distant future.
doesnt he come from the nth shore (auck), whats in the water there?
He’s from Botany Electorate . His wife was a Howick Local board member but threw a tantrum after she was sworn in again last year when she lost to David Collins for chair. She resigned on the spot forcing a bye-election. Tantrums seem to be a thing in that household.
Great show of intellegence here fairy Godmother,
We are glad you are on our side here.
That household seems screwy to us.
National people all seemed un-hinged now.
..and you can find their house in Botany easily, its got loads of toys in the front garden!
The kids get psst off having to tidy up all the time! Someone should pop around and give the kids some door locks for their rooms to stop their parents having a tantrum & then throwing their toys into the garden.
Poor kids. Isn’t that some kind of emotional abuse!?
Whats CYFS number!
“The face of the greedies.” we say Chris.
Interesting that john key slithered into Parliament earlier in the week and now we get Jamie Lee toss doing an orchestrated rant to distract proceedings. Classic key. Learning at his idols knee Jamie is. Key hanging around like an expelled schoolboy with nowhere to go. Obviously not relevant anywhere else.
Shonky John has huge relevance as an adviser, acting coach and mentor in the dark arts he proved to be a master of.
JLR will be a willing but perennially low achieveing student as Jk can only do so much with the dim bulb he is.
That’s right.
I doubt Key could care less about the good of the National Party or the parliament of NZ – his reason for being there will be to advance his own interests. Lobbying for the banks perhaps?
Former leader exerting an influence? Unheard of.
National is acting like a political gang: bullying, threatening, stand over intimidation and aggression with some verbal violence when they feel like it. Jami-Lee Ross is another gang prospect.
‘Jami lee key’ fits doesnt it?
These breed are far apart from the working kind.
They must be educated from year one to be arseholes.
The ranting of Ross was reminiscent of the behaviour of brown shirts in the reichstag in the 1930’s. His unreasonable petulance reflected his thinly veiled fascist core.
“Imagine trying to hold up the passage of a law designed to make sure kids get enough to eat just so you can have your lunch”
Do we really need this false equivalence? The practice of exaggerating an act to make it sound more egregious is pretty annoying and unnecessary.
I think you missed the irony – He didn’t want to go hungry so he wouldn’t vote on a bill that would stop children going hungry.
Jami Lee Ross = another national wannabe sellout from the “Key School Of Corruption.” (KSOC)
Hard to miss something that isn’t there.
Where is the false equivalence DH?
This is from Hansard.
“I raise a point of order, Mr Chairperson. This is now at a point where we are questioning the very process and procedure of the House. I submit to you that your decision not to allow points of order from this side has led us to the point where we are in a grey area, where, I assert to you, it is for you to rule, and you should rule, that we did not vote before 1 o’clock. It is only when a vote has been taken before 1 o’clock or we are in the middle of a vote that you cannot rise for lunch. We did not vote. We did not have the ability to vote before 1 o’clock or during 1 o’clock, and therefore the committee must break for lunch.”
https://www.parliament.nz/en/pb/hansard-debates/rhr/combined/HansDeb_20171214_20171215_04
While I agree it’s a bad look and absolutely reeks of hypocrisy for a party that opposed guaranteed breaks for workers to moan on about rules regarding breaks, I will note that I don’t actually think JLR’s goal was to get off to lunch so much as to delay the vote as much as possible- this is why all of the other points of order are essentially of the nature of “but, but, but, we need more time for part one of the bill, sir!”
(A ridiculous tactic anyway, as the house when in urgency can sit on any day that isn’t sunday to get its work done, and there was no way they were going to manage to filibuster the bill all the way until Monday afternoon, so they weren’t “stealing time” from the Government’s legislation like they would be if they used delaying tactics during a normal sitting)
So there is hypocrisy, but I don’t think it’s as much about mealtime as it is around attempted (and failed) rules-lawyering around Parliamentary breaks.
He’s actually somewhat lucky that Adrian Rurawhe is probably the least experienced assistant speaker and didn’t simply rule him as trifling with the chair, and then sanction him for his highly disorderly conduct when he tried to yell over the vote, and had Mallard been sitting in the chair I think he’d have found himself ejected.
Nah, let the very important man* keep exhibiting his Daddy issues.
*terms and conditions may vary.
I agree the motivation may have been to try and prolong the matter as much as possible. But the pretext, lunch time, and the feigned anger mean that I have no sympathy for Lee-Ross.
None whatsoever. He gets to wear this.
“Where is the false equivalence DH?”
It’s the attempt to smear him with fake accusations. A clear inference was made that he’s indifferent to, and uncaring of, child poverty. That’s not what that was about. The guy’s actions condemn him without any need to fight dirty.
But he is. Why else is he playing politics with child poverty? Why did National refuse to accept Jacinda’s offer to attempt to reach a consensus on how to deal with the issue? Instead they try and filibuster the legislation.
You may be right about equivalence but surely it was not false coincidence. In other words, the timing was deliberate and it was insensitive if not disrespectful.
If you look at about 2 mins 10 on this video Part 1 #51 (the video where JLR throws a tantrum is #53), JLR is on the phone in vid #51 – so probably taking his instructions about how to disrupt a Labour Bill?
I must admit to hollering at the radio when I heard this on RNZ last night.
I was driving home after an 11 hour shift, 3 x 10minute breaks, standing the rest of the time.
If I wanted food I had to pay for it.
I have to pay my own travel costs.
I am paid less than the living wage.
This person seems to be inflicted with entitlititis.
Perhaps a months work in hospitality will sort him out.
I’m pretty sure the hospitality industry would prefer he spent a month in hospital. Can you imagine what a useless pair of hands he’d be?
True, but he wouldn’t be the only useless one.
An ability to talk oneself up seems to be the only prerequisite.
Disgraceful, immature behaviour from Lee-Ross. I’m surprised he was allowed to stay in the house after that.
AND he is the senior whip!!!
Why wasn’t JLR thrown out of Parliament and why has there been no media reaction to his blatantly boorish behaviour? I thought abusing the Speaker or Chair was an absolute nono.
Upton didn’t yell but her behaviour was also reprehensible. A veneer of politeness and underneath a petulant spoiled looser.
And as LeeRoss is a senior whip, National must have shallow barrel.
AND what the hell was she on about?
She WAS talking in English?
Jamie the tosser disgraced himself and is so dim he doesn’t even know it.
he used to be a lifeguard at a public pool the locals waked him because he was so obnoxious
the next scene is where Ross deals to the (hungry?) younglings at his masters suggestion…
There is that well know quote and also a well known British comedy called ‘Some Mothers Do Ave Em’.
Jami Lee-Ross is a perfect example of a person who has an over-inflated opinion of himself. And so do we blame his mum for this or the fact the guy just cannot get over the fact he is part of a failed National government???!!!
Perhaps we need to remind this abysmal excuse of an MP(and a representative of NZ to the outside world)that it is the NZ taxpayers(many of whom are on low incomes)who are funding his life-style choices and eating venues.
I am a low income earning NZer compared to many who are deemed to be on what now called the ‘average wage’. I, and my colleagues, are unlikely to get even a 30 minute lunch break. And when we do have lunch we consume food that is not paid for by the NZ taxpayers.
Most people grow up and become responsible and hard-working citizens of New Zealand. However there are those who fail to grow up and become MPs of the NZ National Party.
But then to Jami Lee-Ross all I can say to you is keep up your good work at diminishing what little credibility the NZ National Party had.
Every time a National Party MP asks the same question time and again as is the case of Paul Goldsmith or Jami Lee-Ross throws a temper tantrum over the fact he cannot have his lunch-break helps reduces the NZ National Party’s credibility more and more. Way to go National. Keep up the good work on destroying your party.
I am going to say about the photo of Jami Lee-Ross that it portrays one very vivid image and that is he(the NZ National Party) walked into a room. He(and the National Party)sat down and said “I am the most arrogant twat in the NZ National Party”. Way to go National. A perfect example of all that is so wrong with your party.
Shonky hanging around parliament because he still influenceing the national party. He knows that national are diving in popularity and when the next election comes around they will lose more seats Shonky still wants to fleece US so he can get into the billionaire club he does not have the skills to achieve his goals honestly so he wants his national m8 to get in power and change the laws for him and his wealth m8. We will inform everyone about his slimy deeds. Have you ever seen a political person hang around
Like him he is up to no good . He is just one slimy player in a very big play happening around OUR world and I will not let him push his bullshit neo liberal ideals on OUR beautiful country enough said Ana to kai
The Speaker should have the authority to suspend this unfit member until he has successfully completed an anger management course.
Nope
How not to be stupid course.
Then
How to listen course
Rurawhe could’ve tossed him out at a number of stages. He should’ve. Is surprising he didn’t.
I don’t think Adrian’s a natural combatant, and perhaps lacks the streak of mongrel that makes Mallard so handy at putting uppity young apprentices aspiring to be Palpatines in their place. That and he seemed unsure of the technical details around parliamentary process, hence his constant consultation with the learned fellow next to him. I think Lee-Ross and Upston observed this and were yanking his chain deliberately purely in order to extend proceedings unnecessarily. It was never about lunch. It was about stalling and willful obstruction. The Nats are like sharks. Once they get a whiff of blood — game on, and they unerringly target those less able to defend themselves. Notice Lee-Ross’s profound change of demeanour as soon as Mallard resumed his position?
Presumably Mallard is an acceptable Daddy figure for Jamie.
@ Wensleydale (15.2.1) … I think Adrian Rurawhe should have requested Ross’s removal from the House immediately, after the MP stood up and bellowed across the chamber at the chairman, virtually demanding his point of order be heard. That was disrespectful of the chair’s position and unbecoming of an elected member of Parliament.
Shame on Ross, Upston and Seymour for obstructing such an important Bill designed to lift the poorest of Kiwi families, in particular impoverished children, out of poverty! Their behaviour demonstrating the feral attitude of National!
Lets hope the Speaker isn’t another David Carter who would smirk like cheshire cat and let his fellow National MPs get away with almost daylight robbery. Oops…. Hang on. Lets not forget the Double Dipping MP for Dipton who did just that and deemed it to be his right. Oh right……. the Double Dipping MP for Dipton is now leader of the National Party. Oh dear…. what a legacy that party has taken themselves into.
Their one job was to prevent a vote before lunch. And thus the melt down …
It was interesting that they thought they could point of order the process and over-ride any attempt by the stand in for the Speaker to stop them.
Maybe a touch of only deferring to an older white males authority …
Yeah, I assume a large part of JLR’s fear and anger was that he was being given orders by someone with brown skin using te reo.
Not meant as criticism as I was appalled at J-L’s behaviour yesterday (and on many other occasions) but just a word of caution re referencing ‘that he was being given orders by someone with brown skin’.
I knew little re J-L’s background and read his history on Wikipedia this morning. It appears that there are some factors in his family background that I don’t want to repeat here, but suggest that assuming that he himself is full pakeha may not be correct – and that references to his parents should be avoided (eg as per the reference to his mum by JustMe in comment 13 above.)
His apparent lack of formal secondary or tertiary educational qualifications is also interesting.
(But it seems he and his wife have in common a disregard for the expense etc incurred in running by-elections when the person just elected steps down very soon after the election.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jami-Lee_Ross
This link is also interesting
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10704290
My bad. The entitled arrogance has to come from somewhere though. Perhaps he has Daddy issues.
As I said, I was not criticising and absolutely agree that the entitled arrogance must come from somewhere – possibly personality disorder or the like – or Mummy/Daddy issues such as perceived rejection. The grandmother who raised him apparently is not a wealthy high flyer type.
He and Simon Bridges are like a tag team in the arrogance respect, so perhaps he was trying to cover for both of them in Bridges’ absence this week due to arrival of SB’s new daughter.
But I would mark him as a possible departure from Parliament once the reality of being in opposition really sinks in. Don’t see him as a stayer; instead as someone still in the early angry stages of denial etc.
“His apparent lack of formal secondary or tertiary educational qualifications is also interesting.”
What stood out to me was he hasn’t earned a living for anything apart from politics in his lifetime. So 32 years old and been a politician for 13.
And the RWNJs go on about leftwing MPs with “no life experience”
Very true.
Loads of awesome moments. Ruawhe telling the tanty packers “e noho” when they didn’t understand the instruction in English. The House’s laughter when he pointed it out. The querulous note in JLR’s voice signalling the damage to his poor little ego.
The assertion that National Party trash deserve respect completely ignored by the Chair and Speaker.
The utter failure of their strategy. I think the Chair should try and make JLR cry next time. He doesn’t like being put in his place by his betters eh 😆
Its Christmas time – even for right tossers like Jamie Lee Toss!
Fairytale of New York by the pogues lyrics – YouTube
the pogues christmas song youtube▶ 4:34
He’s a POS.
L0L !!!!
Jami-Lee Ross, seen here petulantly shouting to be allowed to go to lunch, was fully behind the 2014 Employment Relations Amendment Bill that took away workers’ legal right to tea breaks.
Except workers do have a legal right to tea breaks.
“An employee is entitled to rest and meal breaks that:
– give the employee a reasonable chance during their work period to rest, refresh and take care of personal matters;
– are appropriate for the length of the employee’s work period.
…
Common practice is that rest breaks are 10–15 minutes long and meal breaks are at least 30 minutes long…”
http://www.mbie.govt.nz/info-services/employment-skills/legislation-reviews/amendments-to-the-employment-relations-act-2000/law-changes-to-rest-and-meal-break
Watching the video, I couldn’t help thinking that apart from JLR’s petulance, the Chair himself seemed to be lost around the rules of order, constantly having to receive advice from the clerk(?).
He suffering from loss of power syndrome castrated from power he can only bark but has no bite
+100
On Roy Moore: I would definitely rate him a higher level of doofus, (or rather, actively harmful and truly poisonous person of the week, perhaps. He is ABSOLUTELY a paedo, even if nobody has formally succeeded in charging him yet) but I agree given his reduced relevance to kiwis it’s probably reasonable to award Jamie Lee-Ross with the supreme dishonour.
Roy Moore is beyond doofus, he’s an evil calculated predator
Has anyone else noted Amy Adams beside or behind these young nats when they are playing their games and performing.?
She can be seen nodding and commenting. Are they her bullets being fired? Gathering her minions for a Leadership challenge, while keeping her hands clean?
Amy let her mask slip when she was extremely nasty to Jacinda, but has tried to appear Leadership material since.
Bill English wants us to believe he is still leading a united team… Really?
Here’s a hooton-like prediction. Jamie Lee-Ross could be the next Neshnool Party embarrasment (going forward).
I mean, as in the many they already have running when we get a functioning fourth estate willing to investigatge, rather than the superficial tooth-whitening-bleach media we have (going forward)…… Oh hey!!!, btw!!!! did I tell you who my neighbour – the varicose vein/botox queen/etc person told me about who his/her latest client is.
No…. no….. What plays in Vegas, STAYS in Vegas Right?
Except???? Why???? This is the stuff a populist, commercial media will pay megabucks for – especially if you can provide photos.
Mr Jamie – seek advice urgently. (from Stevie)
Try being a doctor or a nurse Ross and see how you can pull that stunt at lunch time. You are not fit for parliament.