Govt to slash jobs in health and education

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1. randominanity 1

   26 June 2010 at 9:22 pm

   old story – radio did it 6 weeks ago
2. tsmithfield 2

   26 June 2010 at 9:39 pm

   “That’s a reflection of the fact that individual government departments are looking at how best they can organise themselves with no funding increases.’

   No funding increases sounds like “capped” to me.

   Anyway, “capped” means something can’t get bigger. It doesn’t mean it can’t get smaller. I am sure that if the gulf oil gusher was capped, there would be no argument about whether it was “capped” or not if the pressure against the cap reduced.
   • Ari 2.1

     26 June 2010 at 10:20 pm

     ts, John Key referred to attrition reducing the size of the public service, and not funding cuts or firings. He clearly misled us.
     • tsmithfield 2.1.1

       27 June 2010 at 7:55 am

       Redistribution of resources is not the same thing as reduction in resources.
       • smokie 2.1.1.1

         27 June 2010 at 9:01 am

         It’s not a redistribution. Read the fucking budget.
       • Margaret 2.1.1.2

         28 June 2010 at 9:03 pm

         Redistribution of resourses means giving less service to the taxpayer so the Government makes more, in other words getting the books ready for sale.

         Probably going to float them on the sharemarket to be purchased by John Keys chosen few, thats the only mum and dad investers who will have the extra money in tax breaks to play the market.

         John Key has already given them approval to call anyone who dissaproves “envious”, I’m not envious, I’m bloody mad!
   • handle 2.2

     27 June 2010 at 10:07 pm

     “Capped” does not mean the same as “already got rid of 1500 public servants before April this year”, does it? What’s another 1000 between friends.
3. Fabregas4 3

   26 June 2010 at 9:54 pm

   It’s not all bad according to http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10654671

   “Finance Minister Bill English has previously said the reduction in state sector positions was ongoing. However, there would be an increase in some public sector jobs such as police officers, prison officers, community probation staff and WINZ staff.”

   In spite of the cuts or as a result of?
4. WOOF 4

   26 June 2010 at 11:04 pm

   I wanna bite him! 👿
   • kriswgtn 4.1

     26 June 2010 at 11:31 pm

     I hope ya had your shots
     all of them

     we cant have it breeding
     • swimmer 4.1.1

       27 June 2010 at 8:14 am

       Yeah, I took him to the vet, bit her too.
5. I dreamed a dream 5

   26 June 2010 at 11:04 pm

   “Mr Key shouldn’t act surprised if he suffers from the Rudd effect.”

   That’s my dream. I hope it comes true though.
6. ak 6

   27 June 2010 at 1:13 am

   Yesireee. Gotta pay for them tax cuts for the rich somehow. Provincial hospital closures on the horizon – and then there’s this that fell off the back of a truck:

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7. Craig Glen Eden 7

   27 June 2010 at 10:20 am

   Just a small but significant point we were promised 400 extra nurses from the National Party last election!

   One more lie from MR Smile and Wave ?
8. infused 8

   27 June 2010 at 10:52 am

   Actually, kiwis did vote for this. A reduction in the public sector.
9. toldyouso 9

   27 June 2010 at 10:53 am

   if you voted for john key you are getting exactly what he promised you … national party does not care about the average new zealander just getting more money in their pockets. thankfully I A) didn’t vote for this (I knew it would happen) and B) no longer reside in New Zealand where I have to watch my beloved country be destroyed in one term by greedy business men.
10. the pinkpostman 10

    27 June 2010 at 2:07 pm

    . This shocking cut back will affect thousands of people .Hospital,waiting list, education and the end of the ‘Public Service’ So what will our Right-Wing press do with gthis latest news.Very little , in fact ghey will most likely come out with some minor sensation to distract the public. They may even tell us its good government.
    • the pinkpostman 10.1

      27 June 2010 at 2:19 pm

      As have said mant times before the Political Right world widew have Crosby/Textor. There is no doubt they are a super PR group.
      They are responsible for burying bad news but enlarging any good news.
      Listen to the Nat MPs they never once mis a chance to tell the great unwashed that theybare now suffering because of Labour. Any interview and even in Parliament. Even people like Boag use the media to blame Labour. Our MPs had better start to harden up and start attacking this lot full time.
      • swimmer 10.1.1

        27 June 2010 at 3:02 pm

        I hope so, it’s pretty quitet on the Labour front!
      • the pinkpostman 10.1.2

        27 June 2010 at 3:49 pm

        Well since my above comment I have gone and reread the Herald . Not a word about the cuts.It was on Nation Sat morning but how many people watch Nation?
        It will be interesting to see what the clown has on Q&A.
        The whole of the Media is a disgrace. There is no decent/independent current affairs programme on TV. The Nation may improve but its on Saturday 11am. My main source almost my only source for political information is the Standard,
        With respect , this excellent news outlet its not enough ,The great unwashed out there need a decent daily .Some hope . I dispair !!!
        Having said that the interview with Ryall showed what a cold scary person he is. He seemed quite pleased that he was putting hundreds of decent “hard working Kiwis” ( I hate that phrase adopted by the Nat’s)
        out of work. The rest having to take wage cuts ,This from the most vocal of the “catch up to Aussie gang,”
11. Fabregas4 11

    27 June 2010 at 2:10 pm

    IF the government wants to reduce jobs it should aim for these areas – winz, police, probation, jails – this would be an indication that all its other policies were on the right track.
    • ianmac 11.1

      27 June 2010 at 2:51 pm

      Good point Fabregas4!
12. sean14 12

    27 June 2010 at 9:21 pm

    Kiwis didn’t vote for this.

    I think the next election will prove that Kiwis are quite comfortable with it.

    Even if they aren’t, I think John Key will get re-elected anyway. I know the left has to back Phil Goff because he’s spent 25 odd years slaving away for his shot at being Prime Minister, but he is simply unelectable.
    • swimmer 12.1

      27 June 2010 at 9:23 pm

      Isn’t this a thread about Ryall’s slash’n’burn of the health system? Phil Goff has a chance of winning the next election, and having a swipe at him is really going off topic.
      • sean14 12.1.1

        27 June 2010 at 9:33 pm

        Of course I’m on topic. Michael thinks that Kiwis didn’t vote for this “slashing” as he puts it, and I think they are quite comfortable with it. The next election will be the proof.

        Phil Goff does have a chance at winning the next election, but only in the sense that he will be the only other guy in the ring. If you put Steve Urkel up against Mike Tyson he’d theoretically have a chance, but nobody would seriously rate him.

        You might get lucky though, John might lose the plot completely and have a nibble on Phil’s ear on live TV.
        • swimmer 12.1.1.1

          27 June 2010 at 10:11 pm

          I don’t know what your fantasies are mate, but that doesn’t do it for me.
          • sean14 12.1.1.1.1

            28 June 2010 at 9:42 am

            See you at the next election.
13. Macro 13

    28 June 2010 at 9:22 pm

    “Kiwis didn’t vote for this.”

    Actually they did! Anyone who knew what NACT stood for would have told them that that was what they were voting for. And if they had bothered to listen they would have heard you, and I, and most commentators here, telling them that very fact. “A vote for NACT is a vote to cut Govt services.” It was said over and over again.

    So we must conclude that what the majority of NZers want is a cut in Govt services. ie cuts in education and health and welfare and military and police and justice and MAF and …….
    Well that is what they voted for.
14. felix 14

    28 June 2010 at 9:33 pm

    What a lovely spam! Very helpful!

    [Deleted. We get 99.9% of it – sigh! — r0b]

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