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1. Draco T Bastard 1

   23 November 2015 at 10:33 am

   Does that graph include US drone strikes?
   • Grindlebottom 1.1

     23 November 2015 at 11:27 am

     From a read of The Economist article it’s from, clearly not.

     Those numbers pale into complete insignificance compared to the deaths caused in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan.

     From an article published 22 April 2015:

     A recently published report has revealed that the US invasion and occupation of Iraq was responsible for the deaths of approximately 1 million Iraqis, which is 5 percent of the total population of the country.

     …The report states that, in addition to the deaths in Iraq, an estimated 220,000 people have been killed in Afghanistan and 80,000 in Pakistan as a result of US foreign policy.

     http://www.globalresearch.ca/report-shows-us-invasion-occupation-of-iraq-left-1-million-dead/5442905
     • Grindlebottom 1.1.1

       23 November 2015 at 11:50 am

       Whoops, sorry, mucked up the blockquote.
       • r0b 1.1.1.1

         23 November 2015 at 12:34 pm

         Fixed.
     • Sabine 1.1.2

       23 November 2015 at 12:49 pm

       The Lancet Studies are interesting in regards to Iraq and the number of people that have perished since this most awesomest freedom bringing adventure started.

       What is seldom mentioned is that essentially the country is poised by air, water, soil with the remnants of depleted uranium which one could argue is a step towards genocide.
       This war will still be killing when you and I are already dead.

       https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancet_surveys_of_Iraq_War_casualties#Second_study_.282006.29
   • AmaKiwi 1.2

     23 November 2015 at 9:26 pm

     “Does that graph include US drone strikes?”

     You can bet it does not include unarmed civilians killed by police. It should.
2. Draco T Bastard 2

   23 November 2015 at 11:02 am

   Turkey could cut off Islamic State’s supply lines. So why doesn’t it?

   How could Isis be eliminated? In the region, everyone knows. All it would really take would be to unleash the largely Kurdish forces of the YPG (Democratic Union party) in Syria, and PKK (Kurdistan Workers’ party) guerillas in Iraq and Turkey. These are, currently, the main forces actually fighting Isis on the ground. They have proved extraordinarily militarily effective and oppose every aspect of Isis’s reactionary ideology.

   But instead, YPG-controlled territory in Syria finds itself placed under a total embargo by Turkey, and PKK forces are under continual bombardment by the Turkish air force. Not only has Erdoğan done almost everything he can to cripple the forces actually fighting Isis; there is considerable evidence that his government has been at least tacitly aiding Isis itself.

   Apparently, some terrorists are ok.
   • In Vino 2.1

     23 November 2015 at 10:42 pm

     +1
3. weka 3

   23 November 2015 at 11:19 am

   What countries are ‘rest of world?
   • Grindlebottom 3.1

     23 November 2015 at 11:35 am

     I took it to mean all other countries in the world in which deaths have been attributed by the authorities to “terrorists”, outside of those countries specifically listed and those which would ordinarily be regarded as “Western countries”, weka.

     The article itself notes that “…terrorism is spreading. 67 countries saw at least one death last year compared with 59 the year before.”

     This lists 2015 terrorist incidents up to 22 Nov. Interesting to note how many have happened since the 13 Nov Paris attack.

     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2015
     • weka 3.1.1

       23 November 2015 at 10:35 pm

       I took it to be not the West, not Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan or Syria, and not Nigeria. But it’s a high number so I’m assuming that some countries are getting a fair whack of them. Curious that they didn’t specify them.
4. Sabine 4

   23 November 2015 at 12:59 pm

   and with friends like these we might not have to worry about ‘terrorism’

   http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/20/saudi-court-sentences-poet-to-death-for-renouncing-islam?CMP=share_btn_fb

   Quote: Adam Coogle, a Middle East researcher for Human Rights Watch, said Fayadh’s death sentence showed Saudi Arabia’s “complete intolerance of anyone who may not share government-mandated religious, political and social views”.

   “The trial records in this case indicate clear due process violations, including charges that do not resemble recognisable crimes and lack of access to legal assistance,” he said.

   “This case is yet another black mark on Saudi Arabia’s dismal human rights record in 2015, which includes the public flogging of liberal blogger Raif Badawi in January and a death sentence for Ali al-Nimr, a Saudi man accused of protest-related activities allegedly committed before he was 18 years old.

   “If Saudi Arabia wishes to improve its human rights record it must release Fayadh and overhaul its justice system to prevent all prosecutions solely for peaceful speech – especially those that result in beheading.”
5. ianmac 5

   23 November 2015 at 9:08 pm

   I always made a point of looking and admiring the online Herald cartoon. But none seem to have been published since the 19th. Hope it is not because they often poked fun at Government?

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