Julie Anne Genter to stand in Mt Albert by-election

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1. Penny Bright 1

   13 January 2017 at 11:09 am

   Why waste your Mt Albert vote on existing MPs?

   Sure – Labour and the Greens should use the Mt Albert by-election to advocate for the policies they are promoting for the 2017 General Election, for the PARTY vote?

   But why waste this electorate vote?

   In the Mt Albert by-election, I’m already getting public support from members of both the Green and Labour Parties, who say they will vote for me, because Jacinda and Julie Anne are already MPs.

   Would the House become more ‘representative’ by including a fiercely INDEPENDENT proven ‘anti-privatisation / anti-corruption Public Watchdog’ in its ranks?

   What do YOU think?

   Penny Bright

   2017 Independent candidate Mt Albert by-election.
   • DoublePlusGood 1.1

     13 January 2017 at 11:15 am

     Surely choosing a well-regarded public transport expert who should be the next Transport Minister is an excellent option. What portfolio positions and select committee responsibilities would you be pursuing as an independent MP supporting a left-wing government?
     • Penny Bright 1.1.1

       13 January 2017 at 12:09 pm

       Except in Auckland there is effectively NO ‘public transport’?

       There are 10 private bus companies, 4 private ferries and a French multi-national running the trains.

       Auckland Transport has been proven to be fraught with corrupt ‘conflicts of interest’ which have, in my opinion, with moving to the ‘collaborative’ (ie CORRUPT) model for contracting.

       I have studied the 226 page ‘Reasons for the Verdict of Fitzgerald J’, and the evidence, in my view, is politically explosive, regarding how endemic and entrenched is the corruption.

       Who else has STUDIED this document?

       In my view, it completely vindicates my persistent and consistent ten years of anti-corruption ‘whistle-blowing’.

       Penny Bright

       2017 Independent candidate Mt Albert by-election.
       • DoublePlusGood 1.1.1.1

         13 January 2017 at 12:37 pm

         Hmm, who is most likely to get actual public transport in Auckland, a public transport expert, or a ‘whistle-blower’?
         • Penny Bright 1.1.1.1.1

           13 January 2017 at 6:54 pm

           What’s your definition of ‘public transport’?
         • Sacha 1.1.1.1.2

           13 January 2017 at 9:28 pm

           Public transit systems transport citizens.

           I support monopoly infrastructure being owned by public organisations, but I am not convinced this is an election-winning position right now, by a long margin. People care most directly whether the bus or train comes on time.
           • SpaceMonkey 1.1.1.1.2.1

             14 January 2017 at 8:29 am

             And now knowing that a French multinational is running the trains, I have more confidence that the trains will run on time.
       • Visubversa 1.1.1.2

         14 January 2017 at 2:24 pm

         Whistle blowing? – pissing in the wind more likely. Zero tangible results in 10 years. Go back to welding – at least that produces something useful.
   • Carolyn_nth 1.2

     13 January 2017 at 11:16 am

     If Ardern wins the by-election, the NZ Herald (at the link in the post) reckons Labour will then get another list MP. Is that correct?

     Ardern is a list MP and her probable victory will mean another Labour List MP will come into Parliament. Next on the list are Maryan Street and Moana Mackey, but Labour leader Andrew Little is understood to be keen to get Raymond Huo in to provide Chinese representation.
     • Andre 1.2.1

       13 January 2017 at 11:23 am

       Both Ardern and Genter are currently list MPs.

       So if Ardern wins, she vacates her list MP position to take up her electorate MP position. Labour gets to fill their vacant list spot from their list, leaving the total number of Labour MPs the same as now.

       If Genter wins, she vacates her list MP position to take up the electorate MP position. Greens get to fill their vacant list position from their list. Greens increase their numbers in Parliament by one, and Labour decreases their numbers by one.

       Or maybe Penny will win 😆 in which case Genter and Ardern stay in Parliament as list Mps, and the Labour contingent reduces by one.

       Gotta say, if I was in the Mt Albert electorate I’d be sorely tempted. Just to give in to that “fuck you” impulse.
       • Carolyn_nth 1.2.1.1

         13 January 2017 at 11:33 am

         Ah. Gottit. Thanks. So, basically, an Ardern win could result in a more representative Labour caucus, depending on which List MP replaces Ardern.

         And ditto for the House as a whole if Genter wins, depending on which list MP replaces her.
         • dukeofurl 1.2.1.1.1

           13 January 2017 at 11:52 am

           She isnt going to win.

           And no if she does win, the next on the Greens list are ALL men
           15. BROWNING, Steffan
           16. DAVIDSON, Marama
           17. COATES, Barry
           18. HART, John
           19. KENNEDY, Dave
           • James Thrace 1.2.1.1.1.1

             13 January 2017 at 12:02 pm

             I wasn’t aware Marama had a sex change?
             • dukeofurl …

               13 January 2017 at 4:09 pm

               She is allready an MP along with Coates, the next on the list are men , as I said
           • Carolyn_nth 1.2.1.1.1.2

             13 January 2017 at 12:03 pm

             Except, most of those people are already MPs. I think Barry Coates was the last one in. So the next ones are

             18. HART, John
             19. KENNEDY, Dave
             20. Jeanette Elley
             21. Jack McDonald (Māori)

             So potential for diversity there, depending on who is now available. Would love to see Jack McDonald in the House. He comes across in debates as very energetic, articulate and on top of some essential left wing values.
             • Clump_AKA Sam …

               13 January 2017 at 12:23 pm

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               3)went to school
               4)kissed a girl

               How it actually happened

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       • Cemetery Jones 1.2.1.2

         13 January 2017 at 2:18 pm

         Wait, so if Genter won, Labour would lose the lowest current MP on their party list? Wouldn’t that be Andrew Little himself, or am I off the mark on how that could work? I seem to recall he only just got bank into parliament off last election’s list once the special vote had its final count.
         • Andre 1.2.1.2.1

           13 January 2017 at 2:28 pm

           The MP Labour has just lost is Shearer. So right now Labour is down one MP from last year. The question is who replaces him, and the two declared candidates with any chance are a current Labour list MP or a current Green list MP. When either of those ends up the winner, it will create a list vacancy in her party when she resigns her list position to take up her electorate MP position.
           • Cemetery Jones 1.2.1.2.1.1

             13 January 2017 at 2:33 pm

             Ahha, that’s good. I can only imagine how horrendous it would be if Hosking had that scenario to crow about. It might have even undone his post-Key blues. And we can’t have that.
     • Skinny 1.2.2

       13 January 2017 at 4:15 pm

       It’s all about the money honey so Ray Ray Huo is it. Be some deal done via Goff’s financial support and future funding. I doubt the other 2 will make it back, hardly a new look Labour is it. Be a bit of venting from the sisterhood within the party but they will keep it in house or they may get the down and out on the list.
       • alwyn 1.2.2.1

         13 January 2017 at 6:11 pm

         Technically the appointment of a new list MP has nothing to do with the Party.
         When a list MP’s position becomes vacant the registrar of electors looks at the next person on that Parties list, who is not currently an MP, at the previous (2014) election. He will ask the Party whether that person is still a member.
         If they are he will ask the individual whether they are willing to take the seat. If they say yes they are appointed.
         If Labour wanted to ensure that Huo was the new MP they would have to either expel Street and Mackey from the party before the election result was declared or persuade them to say they will not take the seat if asked. They cannot simply say they want someone else further down the list.
         The same applies to the Green Party of course, in the unlikely event that Genter was to win the seat.
         • Jilly Bee 1.2.2.1.1

           13 January 2017 at 8:37 pm

           Moana Mackey has already made her decision – https://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=15&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwielq_6zb7RAhWGJ5QKHbcbCwEQFghWMA4&url=http%3A%2F%2Fgisborneherald.co.nz%2Flocalnews%2F2596405-135%2Fmoana-mackey-rules-out-return-to&usg=AFQjCNHpHLpWxI68HiQp5AzkZcg268UCFw&sig2=-xlb4Q1bxdow4VqPy6mZ1w
   • Andre 1.3

     13 January 2017 at 12:11 pm

     Penny, I think your best chance is to go hard for the Nat voters. If you can persuade enough of them to vote for you for the lolz and to reduce the sane left contingent in Parliament by one, and there’s an even split in the left vote between Ardern and Genter, you might just sneak past on the side.
     • Penny Bright 1.3.1

       13 January 2017 at 7:10 pm

       You would be surprised at how much growing support there is across the whole political spectrum, for proper transparency and accountability in the spending of public monies on private consultants and contractors?

       I had a very senior member of Grey Power seek me out – totally gets the Public Records Act 2005, and the endemic and entrenched bribery and corruption which has worsened with the ‘collaboration’ (ie: CORRUPT) model between public officials and private contractors.

       It appears that NZ First aren’t going to stand a candidate either?

       So, in my view, there is a HUGE political gap, and anyone who thinks that Jacinda is going to ‘sleep walk her way to victory’ in Mt Albert, is probably being a little over-optimistic?

       Labour and Green voters aren’t going to lose anything by voting for me, because Jacinda and Julie Anne are still MPs.

       I’m not.

       Yet.

       Who better to help make corruption a HUGE General Election issue – than Independent MP for Mt Albert, Penny Bright, making a HUGE fuss – inside the House?

       Because a HUGE fuss is needed, and focused action to help transform this corrupt, polluted tax haven, back to a cleaner, greener New Zealand?

       Penny Bright

       2017 Independent candidate Mt Albert by-election.
2. Sanctuary 2

   13 January 2017 at 11:43 am

   Good chance to put the Greens in their place.
   • weka 2.1

     13 January 2017 at 12:13 pm

     lol, like as MP of Mt Albert?
     • dukeofurl 2.1.1

       13 January 2017 at 4:13 pm

       There is no chance of winning any electorate, I dont even know why they bother, apart from the real reason, which is to be able to spend all the money they get from rich people.
       • wek a 2.1.1.1

         13 January 2017 at 4:47 pm

         I’m pretty sure you do know why but who am I to object if you want to present yourself as ignorant instead. Nice troll attempt but not quite up to TS standard.
       • DoublePlusGood 2.1.1.2

         13 January 2017 at 4:54 pm

         ‘No Chance’ – really? There has to be at least some chance that Shaw or Turei could win an electorate if they actually went for it.
         • dukeofurl 2.1.1.2.1

           14 January 2017 at 4:56 pm

           They have tried for electorates before- got nowhere.
           Turei has run in Tamaki Makaurau and Te Tai Tonga and then in Dunedin North.
           Russell Norman, even though he was Wellington based, stood in the Mt Albert bye election after Clark left. Getting under 15 % like most Green electorate candidates doesnt get you elected …
           Back in the 90s there was one Green Mp forCoromandel, and that came with a lot of help from Labour. The only seat where they came 2nd in 2014.
     • Matthew Whitehead 2.1.2

       15 January 2017 at 9:11 pm

       LOL.

       A well deserved one-liner in reply to a one-liner.
   • Sacha 2.2

     13 January 2017 at 9:42 pm

     ooh, tell us more.
3. The Chairman 3

   13 January 2017 at 1:51 pm

   “The by-election will be the first opportunity for voters in Mt Albert to see what Labour and the Greens have to offer in a new, progressive government”

   It’s a red electorate, therefore also making it a good testing ground to see how the Greens stack up within the left.

   Should be interesting.
   • Penny Bright 3.1

     13 January 2017 at 7:12 pm

     It will be fascinating ….

     😉

     Her Warship
   • newsense 3.2

     13 January 2017 at 9:16 pm

     well, there’s also a lot of the more central, liberal Grey Lynn type Green/Nat split, though where Jacinda does well there too. It’s hard to say it is a red electorate as of right. Plus every home owner has over a million dollars of assets to their name…
   • Matthew Whitehead 3.3

     15 January 2017 at 9:13 pm

     Yeah, I think it also will give Jacinda Ardern and Julie-Anne Genter a good chance to practice the interesting dance of coalition campaigning they’re going to need to do this year where they make their own cases while presenting a united front.
4. Sacha 4

   13 January 2017 at 10:25 pm

   The traditional Boiler Masters Union urges its members to vote early and vote often, given the YUGE political gap identified by renowned local operative Chicken Licken Good.

   Ignore your instincts and do whatever you last read in a local publication. Shine those tyres. Sport those tresses. Buy those dresses. Bananas cheaper by the dozen. Buns by the van load. Kimchi, even.

   Just do not think for long – that way lies only confusion. Blessed are those who know their place and do their master’s bidding. Shop local, citizens. A bulb is not always so dazzling.
5. Sanctuary 5

   14 January 2017 at 9:56 am

   I am struggling to see the strategic thinking of the Greens in this. What are the likely outcomes?

   If Genter gets easily and handily spanked – the most likely outcome if given a) Labour’s get out the vote machine works as well as it did in Mt. Roskill and b) the Greens turn out is as dismal as ever and c) the overall turnout is low, with all the National voters staying home and inflating the margin of Ardern’s win – it will diminish her rising star and seriously damage the credibility of the Greens nationwide heading into a general election. No amount of “exposure” of the “Green message” will outweigh the media writing off the Greens as terminal losers in this scenario.

   If (unlikely) Genter does well or even wins then the left over all will suffer a serious blow, since the MSM will simply write Labour off even more than it does now – the NZ corporate MSM is itching for any reason it can to annoint Bill English as PM for a fourth term and present the election narrative as simply a coronation procession for the entrenched neoliberal establishment.

   The decision of the Greens to run Genter has all the hallmarks of the sort of passive-aggressive strategic wishful thinking the Greens have consistantly indulged in since Shaw became leader.
   • dukeofurl 5.1

     14 January 2017 at 5:02 pm

     Agree. It would have been better to try out Chloe Swarbrick rather than Genter.

     What ever happened to their last candidate Jeanette Elly ?

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