Nandor to stay in Parliament until election

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1. Patrick 1

   21 May 2008 at 1:20 pm

   What an awful position for Tanczos and Norman. I can’t believe that Mike Ward would do that. I would hope that there are other avenues the Green Party can look into, like, um, kicking Ward off their list… is anyone able to shed any more light on that?
2. Felix 2

   21 May 2008 at 1:23 pm

   While it may be a smart strategic decision it’s still disappointing.

   This undermines some of Mr Tanzcos’ credibility in my eyes.

   edit: Sorry I totally misread that. I withdraw and apologise.
3. erikter 3

   21 May 2008 at 1:28 pm

   What a principled decision by Mike Ward! It can only be the “rational” Greens.

   The Green Party has to go by the rules, but Tanczos’s personal credibility is now in tatters. The loser appears to be Russell Norman.
4. Steve Pierson 4

   21 May 2008 at 1:36 pm

   Patrick. the list is the one that the Greens ran on last election, people can only be skipped if they agree not to take their positions.

   erikter. The Greens have played by the rules, it was up to Ward if he would do what’s best for the party rather than himself, he chose not to. Other parties have had list candidates step aside when they come in line for a seat, it’s not a rort, it’s a voluntary choice by the candidate.
5. outofbed 5

   21 May 2008 at 1:39 pm

   Tanczos’s personal credibility is now in tatters.
   Don’t be silly of course it is not

   The loser I would think would be Mike Ward
   I wonder if he will turn up to the Agm at the end of the month ?
   I can’t imagine he will be popular
6. Patrick 6

   21 May 2008 at 1:48 pm

   AGM at the end of this month? Surely there is no way he will show his face! It sounds like he has a fairly vocal group of supporters, but I can’t imagine the party at large is very happy with him.
7. Lew 7

   21 May 2008 at 1:52 pm

   It’s sad. I think the Greens punch well above their weight and have a genuinely important place in NZ politics. They’re the architects of their own misfortune here, with such a stupid candidacy policy.

   L
8. Steve Pierson 8

   21 May 2008 at 1:54 pm

   well, they weren’t to know at the time of the last election that this would be an issue (remember they had a different co-leader then), the list at the last election was chosen by the membership, and they can’t legally force Ward to step aside now.
9. Felix 9

   21 May 2008 at 1:54 pm

   Tanczos’s personal credibility is now in tatters

   Bending over backwards to do the best thing for his party before he leaves parliament hardly puts his credibility in tatters. It’s Mr Tanzcos who is demonstrating principles here.
10. outofbed 10

    21 May 2008 at 2:05 pm

    I guess Mike has his reasons but it is intersting to note that he is only standing on the list this Election and Nelsons new local candidate is Diana Mellor. nelsongreens
    Mike has done some outstanding things for Nelson and is a very hard working commited activist
    All in all not much damage, just makes the conference a little bit more interesting

    cap spokesman low
11. outofbed 11

    21 May 2008 at 2:13 pm

    could someone fix that link, not sure what happened
    should be http://www.nelsongreens.org.nz
12. barnsleybill 12

    21 May 2008 at 2:13 pm

    The list that the greens put out for the 2005 election is the one their voters voted on. This is a disgraceful attempt to bend the rules to suit them. How a little gravy has corrupted the children of Rod Donald. He must be revving his tits off right about now.
    Pity the greens not being able to get ME and you to fund the ginga aussies election expenses this year.
    Nandor leaving is a huge loss to the greens and the country. And yes I really mean that but I have enormous respect for Nandor in a similar way I do for Willie Jackson. I completely disagree with almost everything these guys stand for but I have immense respect for their immovable belief in what they stand for.
13. outofbed 13

    21 May 2008 at 2:50 pm

    Barnsley

    The No 2 and the co leader on the list Rod, tragically died
    So the make up of list was not the one their voters voted on.

    Having to elect a new co leader alters things radically I would have thought

    I think that the Greens can make strategic decisions to make itself stronger, and I haven’t spoken to one Green supporter who disagrees with this.
    It it is not a disgracefull attempt to bend the rule to suit them and will make no difference to the election expenses whatsoever, they are funded for six Mp’s whomever they might be

    It is an attempt to give the new co leader some experience in parliment and more exposure before the election no more no less

    And why you do use the term Ginga Aussie? it adds nothing to your argument
14. barnsleybill 14

    21 May 2008 at 4:01 pm

    out of bed, yes the term ginga aussie adds nothing to my argument.
    No2 died, tragic but absolutely no different to a situation where he had resigned or been imprisoned or snatched by aliens. The demented fools who voted watermelon in 2005 voted for a list, they are trying to cheat. Using Rod Donalds death as a reason to rort that list to enable Norman to take the rastafarians place sucking gravy is beneath you.
    Russel Norman is the best reason yet for raising the threshold to 10%.
15. outofbed 15

    21 May 2008 at 4:28 pm

    BB
    The “demented fools” who voted Green believe

    “The single minded focus of big business and governments on economic growth and increased resource consumption is not sustainable in our finite world.”

    ‘There’s only so much gas, and oil, and bauxite to go around, with more and more people who want them
    The amount of corn, rice, and soybeans humans can grow is limited by the length of a growing season and the total area of arable land. Unfortunately, growth-only economic thinking can and does exhaust some of these resources, and even reduces the availability of many renewable resources. The use of growth as the sole tool to solve economic problems has the potential to cause serious (even irreversible) harm to natural systems that are critical to humans.”

    Demented ? foolish ? no,just honest and unselfish
16. barnsleybill 16

    21 May 2008 at 5:38 pm

    well this is where our polite discourse ends methinks..
    Demented and foolish is how I would categorize most watermelons.
    Despite that I enjoy your comments and appreciate your reluctance to descend into the normal insults and abuse.
    For a party that has tried to portray itself as selfless servants of the gaia they have very easily slipped into the trap of greedy gravy suckers. just like every other party.
    I read an article this week that reported that 32,000 scientists had completely refuted the IPCC this week. As a 42 year old cynic who remembers the early seventies panic that we were about to descend into the next ice age due to our abuse of the planet please allow me a level of cynicism.
    The truth is Rod Donald was a tireless campaigner for a change in the electoral system that would allow fringe nutters a chance at parliament. He was very successfull. The inheritors of his tireless and heroic efforts are taking a shit on his grave.
17. outofbed 17

    21 May 2008 at 6:15 pm

    32,000 scientists?

    This is the same fake petition that has been circulating the internet for years.

    Anyone can sign-up here: http://www.oism.org/pproject/

    Research into the names on the petition have show many are fake.

    Many of the real scientists who’s names are on there have denied ever signing the petition and have tried to have their names removed.

    So there!

    So what do we do about those dwindling finacial resources that the world growth is so dependant on?
    Bummer of a question ,to hard lets forget about it then shall we ?

    I mean. ” If every city on earth was like Vancouver we would need four planets to support it . That is, of course better than the Las Vegas or Atalanta models which would require 20 planets. ”
    I’m not sure that “they” have stopped making planets but habitable ones are a tiny bit far away
18. barnsleybill 18

    21 May 2008 at 6:38 pm

    I take it from the fact that you bit at my 32,000 comment means you agree with everything else I have said about the gravy sucking greens.
    The saying goes “think global act local”. persuading everybody in the country to follow this eminently sensible slogan will be far more effective than funding the gravy sucking watermelons. Every MP they have is a venal timeserver incapable of providing for themselves were it not for their sucking the puss from Rod Donalds efforts to force proportional representation on us.
19. outofbed 19

    21 May 2008 at 11:24 pm

    BB in all honesty I didn’t comment on your Gravy sucking comment because it is bollocks as you well know
    Its funny because occasionally you post some reasonably good comments
    So what with the banal hat that you seem to be wearing today ?
    Cheer up Man U might win
20. Ari 20

    23 May 2008 at 12:08 pm

    Barnsley, you are as offensive as always when it comes to the Greens, and I wish you would grow some respect. I’m not going to legitimise your comments on this matter by bothering to rebutt them.

    If you really believed in the legitimacy of what you said, you would not need such disgusting and abusive language to say it.

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