Nats’ NGO policy, give the money to Aussies

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1. rave 1

   7 July 2008 at 1:30 pm

   Missionaries and bankers holding hands with corrupt politicians as usual.
2. Scribe 2

   7 July 2008 at 1:45 pm

   From the link (a Sue Bradford press release):

   Green Party MP Sue Bradford is alarmed at indications the National Party has plans that could silence local NGOs on social issues.

   I thought the EFA was already doing a pretty good job of that.

   I understand that the New Zealand Council of Christian Social Services has been under the microscope over a campaign it launched to fight poverty.

   Bradford also refers to the PSA in her release. How strange that the PSA would be taking a swipe at National. I’m stunned, I tell ya. Stunned!!
3. Tara 3

   7 July 2008 at 2:37 pm

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_Australia

   It morphed from the Sydney City Mission and Adelaide’s “Mission SA” into Mission Australia after the Howard government introduced contestable ‘outcome focused’ funding which the relevant government department was criticised as awarding to favoured government recipients .. Mission Australia. Despite its claim of being non-denominational it has long been perceived as introducing sectarianism to ‘universal’ welfare, with controversies about faith-based employment policies which clash with the increasing reality of our multicultural society.
4. Steve Pierson 4

   7 July 2008 at 2:47 pm

   Scribe. So, no defence of the substantive point?
5. Steve Pierson 5

   7 July 2008 at 2:48 pm

   tara. I had a look at that wikipedia article researching the post – clearly written by Mission Australia, eh?
6. Scribe 6

   7 July 2008 at 2:57 pm

   Steve,

   Can you providing supporting material for this accusation?

   But it is also a monopolist, using its government contracts to squeeze out other charities and keep public funding of NGOs for itself.
7. higherstandard 7

   7 July 2008 at 3:02 pm

   Question for those in the know – can someone give me an example of an NGO in NZ that is a registered charity ?
8. Steve Pierson 8

   7 July 2008 at 3:16 pm

   Scribe. This looks like a good summary of the NGO sector under Howard and entions how Mission Asutrlia gained at the expense of non-Christian and not pro-Howard NGOs. interesting that MA’s CEO supported the introduction of GST in Australia, that’s well out of step with most charities’ position on GST.
9. higherstandard 9

   7 July 2008 at 3:26 pm

   Scribe

   Read SP’s link article (paras 2 and 3) sound familiar ?
10. T-rex 10

    7 July 2008 at 3:28 pm

    hs:

    RedCross
    WorldVision
    CCF
    Greenpeace
    Amnesty International

    etc
11. higherstandard 11

    7 July 2008 at 3:42 pm

    Thanks Rex

    I’m assuming some of these bodies have been ‘Mission Australiad’ in Australia.

    Certainly no-one would stand for it in NZ and I’m amazed they’ve got away with it in Aus as they are far more likely to protest and get uppity over there than we are in NZ.
12. Scribe 12

    7 July 2008 at 4:01 pm

    higherstandard,

    Some of this stuff, you mean?

    A DECADE is a long time to be in government. Any government in power for so long will leave an indelible mark on the society it governs, changing the culture, identity, values and direction of the nation. For those in the community who disagree with government policy, there is some comfort in the knowledge that at the very least they can express their dissenting opinions through the recognised institutions of democracy. This capacity for public debate and dissent ensures that governments must continue to publicly justify their decisions — a hallmark of democracy.

    But what happens when these democratic institutions are themselves eroded by government? What are the costs when a government tries to ensure that its values are the only values heard in public debate? What are the consequences for a nation whose citizenry is denied essential information about controversial policies?

    The Howard Government has been progressively dismantling the democratic processes that create the capacity for public debate and accommodate dissenting opinion. The tactics used to silence critics are diverse, including the withdrawal of government funding, threats to destroy the financial viability of dissenting organisations, appointment of party functionaries or friends to key positions, strict interpretation of laws governing release of information, and the targeting of individuals. One sector that has been a particular target of these efforts to silence dissent is the non-government sector.

    It does sound a tad familiar.
13. Tara 13

    7 July 2008 at 4:02 pm

    Hamilton & Maddison (Eds), 2007,
    “Silencing Dissent: How the Australian government is controlling public opinion and stifling debate” – which Steve’s post reviewed – may soon be available at Wellington Central Library.
14. Scribe 14

    7 July 2008 at 4:15 pm

    Steve,

    Thanks for the link. My next question (largely rhetorical) is: How legitimate is the concern that National would introduce something like this?

    I must say I get a bit tired of comments like “there is a strong indication” etc from people of any political affiliation. If John Key has been going around saying he wants this sort of scheme, why aren’t the NGOs the ones going to the media, rather than Sue Bradford?
15. higherstandard 15

    7 July 2008 at 4:19 pm

    Scribe

    I must admit I did have a titter.
16. Hoolian 16

    7 July 2008 at 4:24 pm

    Clinton, you’re sooooo negative. Be optimistic about NZ for once. Gee, all you do is bitch and moan. This is a such a negative site. You’re worse than “Brand Key”.
17. Steve Pierson 17

    7 July 2008 at 4:41 pm

    Hoolian. check “poverty falls, more to be done” and “incomes rise, inequality down” – they’re positive but if you’re looking for naive posts that suggest everything is perfect you won’t find many here, my fellow standardistas and myself have consistently argued that NZ is in good shape and can do better but by moving to the left, not by signing up to Brand Key.
18. Tara 18

    7 July 2008 at 4:57 pm

    It was always a bit too predictable how Howard – Methodist->Anglican by background – found these choices mirrored in the muscular christianity of his social welfare providers, although these days Mission Australia claims to be “non-denominational”.

    > How legitimate is the concern that National would introduce something like this?

    It certainly fits the late 80’s ideology of the National Party.

    But “The times, They are a’chaaaangeing ..” as someone once sang.

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