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6:03 pm, December 19th, 2019 - 17 comments
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Tags: impeachment, no right turn
No Right Turn writes
The US House of representatives has just voted to impeach Donald Trump, making him only the third US president to earn that dubiou distinction. But before anyone gets their hopes up, this isn’t any return to constitutional normalcy. Once the House votes for impeachment, the Senate is supposed to conduct a trial. And the Republicans who dominate that body have shown no indication that they will do that properly, let alone vote to convict by the required two-thirds majority. So, the constitutional checks and balances fail because they ultimately rely on some measure of honesty and good faith from politicians. And where the US is concerned, that simply cannot be relied upon.
Meanwhile, its worth noting: Nixon – the man who provides the benchmark for a criminal US president – had enough decency and shame to resign before he got to this stage. Trump doesn’t. Which is horrifying in a way.
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NRT is giving Nixon a bit too much credit.
Nixon had a major Supreme Court decision go against him, forcing him to cough up the tapes. He also had a delegation of Republican senators turn up to tell him he was gonna lose in the Senate trial. After that, he resigned.
The mandarin manutang has yet to suffer any setbacks comparable to those.
OK impeach the corrupt douche, but remember a bit of perspective from Ron Paul. Trump is the only prez in decades who hasn't embroiled the USA any further in immoral & pointless wars
https://twitter.com/roblogic_/status/1207575988961308672?s=20
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As if that forgives a man who has no idea of the role he chose for himself:
Here is what George Conway – Kelly-Anne Conway's (Trump's Counsellor) husband had to say on the matter just today.
Amazing how crap like impeachment and Brexit overshadows news of serious crimes by the establishment
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/investigations/afghanistan-papers/afghanistan-war-confidential-documents/
So you don't think that the US lurching towards a state of tyranny with a corrupt President and a rogue Senate leader is significant?
BTW you seem to have missed the fact that Trump is instrumental in forwarding Billions of $US in war material to Saudi Arabia vetoing the call of Congress for it to stop. And again you seem to overlook the fact that it is Trump who meddled in Iran causing increased tension in the middle-east, and a move by Iran to again enrich Uranium. As for his stupid behaviour in Israel – we can only hope that wise heads will prevail. But I guess the denuclearization of North Korea is going as well as we expected
Not to mention betraying the Kurds yet again.
It's a shame that impeachment will be voted down as soon as it hits the republican controlled Senate
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/18/trump-impeached-next-steps-senate-trial
His evil enablers, Bitch McTurtle and his ilk, are every bit as bad.
Civilian casualties have soared under tRump, under tRump's revised rules of engagement more indiscriminate munitions have been deployed and his mythical draw-down of troops is just that, a fucking myth.
But hey, keep on supping that Luap Nor Kool-Aid.
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https://theintercept.com/2019/10/02/trump-impeachment-civilian-casualties-war/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/23/us-air-wars-trump
https://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2019/oct/22/brett-mcgurk/mcgurk-right-trump-has-sent-14000-troops-middle-ea/
Muckraking is easier than analysis. Impeaching Trump is an empty gesture that doesn’t fundamentally fix anything
https://twitter.com/andrewyang/status/1207509966707257344
It's a small step on America's road to recovery. They may never get there, but
the journey of a thousand li begins with a single step ~ Lao Tzu
I would have thought that Nixon and his esteemed helpers criminal behaviour was far worse than anything Trump has been accused of…….so far.
I made the comments some months ago that any articles of impeachment against Trump has too be ruled on in the senate which has a republican majority.
In all likelihood Trump will contest the 2020 election on a platform as a martyr of the establishment.
Perfect for him and his campaign of " cleaning up the swamp "
Let's do a comparison of Watergate and the Ukraine extortion scheme:
Nixon did not know about the Watergate burglary before it was done, he attempted to cover up his team's actions after the fact. Twittertwat initiated the entire Ukraine extortion scheme and pushed reluctant underlings to carry it out.
Watergate was an entirely domestic issue with zero foreign policy or national security ramifications. The Ukraine extortion has major foreign policy repercussions and may negatively affect US national security.
The Watergate burglary was done using primarily campaign resources and just a few senior officials in Nixon's Cabinet involved. The Ukraine extortion misused hundreds of millions of congress appropriated taxpayer funds for the extortion, quite a few diplomatic service officials, on top of Dolt45's Cabinet officials.
Those are just the highlights, a full compare and contrast would take pages…
However, Nixon's treachery in sabotaging Johnson's peace talks with Vietnam in 1968 was far far worse than the Ukraine extortion. But that was successfully covered up until just a few years ago.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/08/06/nixon-vietnam-candidate-conspired-with-foreign-power-win-election-215461
Looking back on the footage I was particularly galled that it was Nixon who got the White House speech live telecast with the men who first landed on the moon, to one of the largest-ever global audiences, when it was Kennedy who instigated it and Johnson who funded it.
… and Nixon had only been in office for six months of the near-decade-long effort that made it happen.
If you want a good deep-diver into my favorite post-WW2 Democrat president, I recommend Caro's excellent 4-volumne biography. But in particular:
"Means of Ascent", and
"The Passage of Power".
He's effective, and good and dark about it.