NZME's NZ Herald appears to be unashamedly showing its true colours, in todays "News Worth Knowing" advertisement featuring three jovial Coalition leaders.
In human society there is the democratic accountability component. The elites are aware of this and are active changing the rules to try and prevent correction to their extremist order design.
If you want to be a largely grssroots and hence very small scale effort in actual conservation work, there's myriad to choose from, and Ford and Bird are as good a clearning-house as any to get in with them.
There are others operating on a regional scale but with little central government input, like https://arkinthepark.org.nz/ As ever so much of their work relies on a few paid staff and otherwise scores and scores of volunteers over years and years.
Then there's the fully private version like Santuary Mountain Maungatautiri which is 3,300 hectares of fully fenced enclosure, and about the only pace I've seen 10 Tuatara in sunlight and looking very comfortable with it. https://www.sanctuarymountain.co.nz/
But then there's NZNatureFund, which is a medium-scale donor aggregator to actually assist DoC with some of the big projects – the biggest one to date is the full eradication of pests from Auckland Island which would be a mighty feat.
I have a sneaking suspicion that DoC projects have the depth of emotional appeal that enable donors both locally and from afar to do some good. I can't see a hard line policy distinction for decreasing donor influence on DoC – in fact it's more like the state is lagging behind in capturing private conservation donations when there are so many large and medium scale models across the country already operating and doing very solid work.
The Genocide Convention to which New Zealand is a signatory, stipulates that all countries that, detect a genocide is being committed, must take all actions to prevent it.
Does the Luxon administration believe in upholding the international rule of law, or not?
Does our parliamentary opposition have the courage to hold them to account?
Proposed Parliamentary members bill:
That the government of, Aotearoa New Zealand officially recognise that a genocide is being committed in the Middle Eastern enclave of Gaza against the indigenous Palestinian population of that territory.
During its term on the United Nations Security Council, New Zealand played an important role in trying to bring global attention to the atrocities taking place in Rwanda. Calling for the Council to recognise that genocide was being perpetrated against the Tutsi population, and urging the UN to strengthen its peacekeeping measures at a time when others looked to disengage from Africa, New Zealand used its presidency to call for action.
Ultimately, these efforts failed and genocide ensued.
It's a safe assertion that from southern Turkey to northern Iraq, all the way to the Sinai, and down to Yemen, international law isn't having any effect on peaceful outcomes.
Unit 8200 is an Israeli Intelligence Corps unit of the Israel Defense Forces responsible for clandestine operation, collecting signal intelligence (SIGINT) …
Signals intell (as per VPN access) has nothing to do with propaganda.
Somene says Gaza, someone adds other places too, and then somone adds Sudan and Chad.
Propaganda looks like the posts found on Standard search – "Adam Ukraine and Russia".
Let it go, Adam, and refute their comments with strong counter-arguments if you can. The Mods and SYSOP can handle it if indeed SPC is trolling this site.
Can the UNGA can find work arounds for the UNSC roadblocks?
The answer to your question SPC is, No.
But you probably knew that.
By design; majority votes in the UNGA are non-binding, making the UNGA powerless to decide on the evidence of acts of genocide. Even the UNSC is powerless to decide on the evidence of acts of genocide, if just one of its permanent members uses their veto to quash any proposed motion.
If only just one member of the UNSC uses its veto. even for a vote on the crime of genocide, the UNGA and the UNSC are both rendered powerless to act.
But….
When it comes to the crime of genocide the UNGA and the UNSC don't need to decide to act against a genocide.
The decision to act against the crime of genocide was made in 1948 when the Genocide Convention was first agreed to by its founding signatories.
By design; The Genocide Convention specifically calls on all states that are signatories to the Genocide Convention to act if they detect a genocide.
A fact that the Russian Federation falsely exploited as a political figleaf to cover its unprovoked attack on Ukraine.
Waiting on a decision of the UNGA and the UNSC and ICJ is a cowardly abrogation of this country's responsibilities as a signatory the United Nations Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide. (The Genocide Convention)
If the government of New Zealand officially decides, that based on evidence put
before them, that there is a plausible case that a genocide is being committed in Gaza by the state of Israel, then this country is legally bound to make, to the best of our ability, efforts to prevent it.
It is for this purpose that I have suggested that at least one concerned MP put a private Members Bill in the ballot to decide the issue.
An individual nations capacity might well be limited.
There is the possibility for the UNGA to engage in dialogue with the ICC through 'quasi-judicial' resolutions, in coordinating collective responses to a recalcitrant State and individual perpetrators and also through the possible assumption of a referral power.
If New Zealand or any other signatory to the United Nations Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, determine that a genocide is being committed, nowhere in the convention is it written that they have to wait on 'the possible assumption of a referral power' before taking action to prevent that genocide.
That the nations represented in the UN General Assembly even has trouble referring cases to the ICC without being vetoed by the UN Security Council, pretty much confirms the impotence of the assembly of nations in the General Assembly, Which is the way it was designed from its founding after World War II by the victorious world powers of the time, Britain, China, France, USA, USSR/Russia. These five global powers still keep decision making power in the UN to themselves to this very day.
The UNSC is the ultimate decision making body of the UN, but as your link, SPC, makes clear the UNSC is strapped by the veto not to make decisions that go against any of the interests of the five permanent members, or their allies.
From your link:
…..The role of the United Nations Security Council ('UNSC') in the enforcement of international criminal law has a chequered and controversial record, not least with respect to its power to make a referral to the International Criminal Court ('ICC'). Double standards permeate UNSC decision-making, with permanent members of the UNSC in particular criticized for impeding ICC scrutiny of its own nationals and those of its client states …..
On the occasions where the nations of the General Assembly do come to an agreement, and the nations of the Security Council don't veto it, then that international agreement is often codified as a United Nations International Convention, binding on the signatory countries that ratify that convention.
The United Nations ban on ozone depleting CFCs known as the Vienna Convention is one example of a United Nations international convention that is binding on its signatories.
The United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), is another of the United Nations conventions that is binding on its signatories, making it one of the conventions that makes up part of what is generally referred to as, 'the international rules-based order', (or system).
New Zealand has extended its contribution to the US-led coalition working to uphold maritime security in the Red Sea, Defence Minister Judith Collins and Foreign Minister Winston Peters announced today…..
“This decision demonstrates our support to the international rules-based system and freedom of navigation.”….
The deployment is mandated to conclude on 31 January 2025.
The US is not a signatory to The United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS,) but demands that China, also not a signatory, adhere to its principles.
The US and other supporters of the 'Rules-based International order' don't wait for a ruling from the ICC or ICJ on breaches of the UN Convention on the law of the Sea before acting on enforcing it.
Nor do we. We did not wait for 'the possible assumption of a referral power' before deciding the Houtis enforcement of a blockade on ships heading for Israel, was illegal under maritime law.
If this country determines that Israel is committing genocide, then neither should we wait for 'the possible assumption of a referral power' before taking action under our legal obligations to the Genocide Convention.
Tell me SPC, after all this, do you still stand by your contention, that it not a genocide, because the IDF issue warnings to the Palestinians to leave an area before they start destroying the buildings and infrastructure and killing those remaining in that area?
I would be grateful if you could let me know your answer.
Israel's intent to commit Genocide is not hard to prove.
Amnesty International
26 Feb 2024 — Israel defying ICJ ruling to prevent genocide by failing to allow adequate humanitarian aid to reach Gaza……
The Guardian
3 Jan 2024 — A group of prominent Israelis has accused the country's judicial authorities of ignoring “extensive and blatant” incitement to genocide……
Al Jazeera
14 Jan 2024 — A database of 500 statements showing Israeli incitement to genocide provides ample evidence of genocidal intent…..
NBC News
13 Nov 2023 — “Some of that rhetoric can be seen as potentially genocidal from the way that it dehumanizes Palestinian civilians,”….
13 Oct 2023 — Under international law, the crime of genocide is defined by “the intent … Indeed, Israel's genocidal assault on Gaza is quite explicit,…..
The ICC has yet to issue arrest warrants as per incitement to genocide, the first part of a process to punish this.
Statements by individuals do not provide evidence of a collective guilt as per a plan to act on the incitement. Deeds do, such as denial of access to aid to civilians.
do you still stand by your contention, that it not a genocide, because the IDF issue warnings to the Palestinians to leave an area before they start destroying the buildings and infrastructure and killing those remaining in that area?
All the information you cited was known to the ICC and it only concluded there was a case to answer.
So far it has limited its action to issuing warrants for crimes against humanity and war crimes.
Levy served in the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) as a non-commissioned officer.[8] …
Peace negotiator
…..an Israeli negotiator in peace talks with Palestinian leaders during his IDF years under Israeli Prime Ministers Yitzhak Rabin (PM 1992–95)[8] and again under Ehud Barak (PM 1999–2001).[4][9] He was lead drafter of the 2003 Geneva Initiative…..
Political Analyst
….commentator, author, and former advisor to the Israeli government with expertise on Middle East and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
BN of Likud opposed the Oslo Accords and exploited the assassination of Rabin to become PM.
I am sure he, like I, supported Barak to become PM (I wrote to the Labour leader and offered strategic and tactical advice before the election in 1999)(as I have done here and even for Blair of the UK, in 1998 – I now wish it had been in 2002 and to advise him to block Bush going into Iraq).
After the failure of the 2000 peace talks, I advised Barak that better treatment of the Israeli Arabs would minimise the risk of the nations place in the ME being called into question afterwards.
Which, as Levy noted here, is the problem for Israel if the Gaza action does not result in Palestinian (new elections) unity and a potential for resumption of peace (Palestinian state formation) talks.
He is right that the fences, after the intifada, created more than a physical distance between the two populations. And while Al Jazeera may not like it, if being censored by the PA leads to its return in Gaza, and new elections – then it is taking one for the team.
PS as per automated targeting systems, this is probably an international regulatory regime matter (as to war crimes mitigation).
So far it has limited its action to issuing warrants for crimes against humanity and war crimes.
Those are comparatively easy to prove in evidence. Problem with the act of genocide is that is only really provable after the fact.
Thus far, the leadership in Israeli hasn’t clearly stated an intent to commit genocide. Instead they appear to be acting exactly like the Nazi leadership from 1933 until the liberation of Belsen. They never claimed an intent nor acts of genocide. It took finding the gas chambers and mass graves to discover that.
However both of those governments have been clearly involved in clear ethnic cleansing.
The record of the IDF in 1948 in active ethnic cleansing of civilian Islamic ‘Arabs’ out of their partition was clearly documented both as intent and action by the IDF. As was the subsequent seizure of their ‘abandoned’ property. Similarly, the laws promulgated in 1948 and later that were clearly designed It followed exactly the same playbook that the Nazis used in the 1930s to enrich themselves from dispossession of Jewish families.
The IDF was founded on unethical behaviour (and piss-poor discipline). It has continued that to this day.
I’d be happy to provide verifiable links to all of these events. However I am sure you know the history anyway.
Sure after 5 Arabs states said they would send their armies to end any Jewish state, and no nation said they would stand by Israel, the Israelis had to survive on their own.
Some war crimes and ethnic cleansing resulted in areas held by both the IDF and the Arab armies (no Jewish settlements outside the IDF zone survived in Palestine) and hundreds of thousands of Jews left Arab nations without their property.
The same happened when Yugoslavia broke up and a lot of cross border movement when Pakistan separated out of India.
At Wannsee there was a plan, the camps were known of long before 1945.
But kept secret from the western public, lest this might be seen as unethical. The 1939 White Paper keeping Jews out of Palestine (as refugees from Europe) … still enforced on concentration camp survivors after 1945.
Sure after 5 Arabs states said they would send their armies to end any Jewish state, and no nation said they would stand by Israel, the Israelis had to survive on their own.
You also managed to miss the context of an ongoing civil war in the Palestinian Mandate for the previous 6 months prior to the declaration since the partition scheme was voted in the UN. That, along with the massacres and ethnic cleansing by Israelis, was the context of surrounding Arab states announcing prior to the declaration of Israeli independence that they would oppose it militarily.
But anyway, how does even that bit of Israeli propaganda justify the brutal ethnic cleansing in 1947/8, a number of massacres by Israeli militias (particularly by the Irgun) in the same period before they joined the IDF, and the current IDF dropping 2000lb bombs on civilian apartment blocks?
It is a curious moral compass you operate with.
Because the British allowed migration into the LoN/UN mandate despite repeated appeals against it by local inhabitants, resulting in a civil war – this somehow justifies the IDF acting like unethical arseholes ever since?
The same happened when Yugoslavia broke up and a lot of cross border movement when Pakistan separated out of India.
Yes, and in the former case there have been a number of trials about ethnic cleansing related to Yugoslavia. The term was actually coined in the 1980s to describe Serbian operations in Kosovo.
The ethnic cleansing in the Indian subcontinent after British withdrawal as well as the Israeli effort in Palestine have both caused massive and persistent down-history aggravation. Same in Yugoslavia, Rwanda, etc. Which is exactly why ethnic cleansing is now regarded internationally as being a crime.
At Wannsee there was a plan, the camps were known of long before 1945.
But kept secret from the western public…
They were known. Written about in news media in the West prior to the war after 1935. Written about during the war.
What you appear to be conflating is the evidence of the extermination plans with the concentration camps (and the SS efforts on the Eastern front).
The evidence was known from Barbarossa and possibly earlier. However it was intelligence information from various forms of spying. No country releases that where the information gives a link to source. Which is why Coventry needed to build a new Cathedral after the war – to protect Enigma.
The Allies knew that there was no way to affect the Nazis extermination efforts. Perhaps you’d like to suggest realistically what they could have done – rather than just being a mindless critic pushing idiotic ‘but what abouts..’.
The 1939 White Paper keeping Jews out of Palestine (as refugees from Europe) … still enforced on concentration camp survivors after 1945.
Two governing principles formed the core of the Mandate System, being non-annexation of the territory and its administration as a "sacred trust of civilisation" to develop the territory for the benefit of its native people.[2]
Migration en-mass was in direct violation of the League of Nations mandate, and the subsequent short lived UN replacement(s).
So please justify why bringing a fuck load of Jewish migrants was of benefit to the native people.
Almost all of of those ancestral families of migrants had last lived in the mandate area somewhere between the Assyrian deportations and the exodus during the Crusader states. The native people were those who hadn't left. Many if not most of the native people were descendants of the original Jewish and Samaritan states.
I'm pretty sure that very few of the migrants that the bloody British allowed in had any similar history and attachments with the mandate lands. I don’t really think that some largely meaningless ritualistic religious waffling over centuries without much actual action really counts.
Anyway I'd love to hear your half-arsed fluffing of how jewish migration during the British mandate of Palestine brought any lasting benefit to the native people. It would be entertaining.
All I can see is that the Israeli settlers and religious Jewry are continuing to kill 'native people' in large numbers, appear to be trying to starve them to death, induce plagues, and to dispossess unlawfully their property. I can't see any 'benefit' in that to the native peoples of Palestine.
Questioning the "moral compass" of another is not a reasonable debate tactic.
It only leads to the conclusion that the issue is one in which a party has come to a conclusion that precludes civility in discourse about it, unless there is agreement.
Questioning the "moral compass" of another is not a reasonable debate tactic.
So is avoiding the points being raised. It isn't like you're bringing up anything that isn't known. Most of your responses just look to me like straight avoidance rather than something worth debating. I have been responding to each of those in counter point. But it is getting tedious watching you avoid what I think are the central issues.
Raising refutes to my arguments that increasingly smell of simple propaganda slogans (rather than something you have thought about yourself) then it does pull into question your interest in debating this topic in good faith.
If I wanted to read simple propaganda, then I'd just continue to read almost any Israeli English language news. Thye are full of that platitude tripe. Apart from possibly Haaretz.
If you parse them as racist trash, then increasingly they look like something that Goebbels would use to justify actions that enable extermination policies. Virtually none of them report what is actually happening inside Gaza, like the current range of endemic water borne diseases, the starvation, the targeting of civilian infrastructure, snipers shooting kids and elderly.
It is exactly the same when you look at the news about the West Bank.
In effect what I am asking you is why you think that the current and past strategies of the IDF and the British and Israeli government towards the native people of the Palestinian mandate was justifiable – on any moral, legal, or even real-politik grounds.
I can't see any. What is evident is that you probably cannot either.
What I see, as I have pointed out long before this current conflict, is that ultimately the Israeli policies since 1948 lead inevitably to one of few possible outcomes. Effectively the genocidal attacks of the Warsaw ghetto. Or the pathetic uberman racism of Israel running a even worse apartheid slave economy. Or Israel will try to force an medieval ethnic cleansing of their relatives who stayed.
None of those are acceptable. All of them will have been directly caused by the actions of the League of Nations and the UN. That is the mechanism that should be forced to a more equitable solution. Probably dissolve the security council veto as a starter.
I think you should look at your method of debating
First you claimed
Thus far, the leadership in Israeli hasn’t clearly stated an intent to commit genocide. Instead they appear to be acting exactly like the Nazi leadership from 1933 until the liberation of Belsen. They never claimed an intent nor acts of genocide. It took finding the gas chambers and mass graves to discover that.
(my italic bold)
I point out
At Wannsee there was a plan, the camps were known of long before 1945.
Rather than admit the point, that this was a known before 1945.
You find a way to launch a tirade.
What you appear to be conflating is the evidence of the extermination plans with the concentration camps (and the SS efforts on the Eastern front).
Yes the internment and or labour camps in the east became extermination camps after Wannsee.
The evidence was known from Barbarossa and possibly earlier. However it was intelligence information from various forms of spying. No country releases that where the information gives a link to source. Which is why Coventry needed to build a new Cathedral after the war – to protect Enigma.
The Allies knew that there was no way to affect the Nazis extermination efforts.
So I guess
It took finding the gas chambers and mass graves to discover that.
was not fact based.
Perhaps you’d like to suggest realistically what they could have done – rather than just being a mindless critic pushing idiotic ‘but what abouts..’.
I was just fact checking you, not asking for your assessment of my moral compass for doing so.
"Problem with the act of genocide is that is only really provable after the fact". lprent
As SPC points out, that wasn't true for the Holocaust.
In the case of the Holocaust, not too dissimilar to today, If people didn't know, it was because they didn't want to know.
…..By summer 1941, British intelligence agents were listening in on classified German radio transmissions that described systematic mass murders in Lithuania, Latvia, and later Ukraine. News also came from the Soviets…..
……Additional confirmation came in spring 1942, when American journalists stranded in Germany when the United States entered the war were exchanged for Axis nationals stranded in the United States. Historian Deborah Lipstadt describes the articles these journalists wrote after they returned home:
Glen Stadler, UP [United Press] correspondent in Germany, described what had happened to Jews in Latvia, Estonia, and Lithuania as an “open hunt.” Some of the reporters estimated that more than 400,000 had already been killed by Hitler’s “new order,” including “upward of 100,000 [Jews who] met death in the Baltic states alone, and more than that . . . have been executed in Western Russia.”
Joseph Grigg, also of the UP, reported: “One of the biggest slaughters occurred in Latvia in the summer of 1941 when, responsible Nazi sources admitted, 56,000 men, women and children were killed by S.S. troops and Latvian irregulars.”
…..Following Poland’s defeat by Germany, Polish leaders had established a temporary “government in exile” in Britain. In June 1942, they received a secret report from occupied Poland confirming that the Germans were murdering Jews throughout the country. Newspapers around the world carried the story.
The London Times reported:
MASSACRE OF JEWS—OVER 1,000,000 DEAD SINCE THE WAR BEGAN
The Montreal Daily Star stated:
“NAZI SLAUGHTERHOUSE”—GERMANS MASSACRE MILLION JEWS IN EXTERMINATION DRIVE
The Man Who Warned The West About The Holocaust, At A Time When No One Would Listen
Jan Karski, an eyewitness to the Holocaust whose daring wartime attempts to call attention to the slaughter of Polish Jews were largely ignored by the United States and Britain.
'This Sin Will Haunt Humanity'
….Karski traveled west with a plea to make the prevention of the Jewish slaughter an explicit goal of the Allied Powers. He urged both British Foreign Secretary Anthony Eden and U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt to consider military strikes against rail lines used for the Nazi deportations…..
….. But neither official was prepared to take such measures in time to prevent the deaths of 3 million Polish Jews. Karski, one of a handful of people to warn Western leaders of the Holocaust, and its earliest eyewitness, was largely ignored.
Sure disruption of transit to labour camps as well as an escape route out of Europe were viable options even in war time.
There was a more egregious lack of will with the Rwanda case. There was an effort in Sudan (Vietnam ended the one in Kampuchea inspired by the Chinese cultural revolution).
The parallel here you might be searching for is, how to get food aid and medical equipment/supplies to Palestinian civilians (to prevent what Lancet warned about some time ago – war leading to a famine and disease aftermath)?
We could not do it, it would require co-operation with others.
The lawmakers maintained in a letter to Defense Minister Israel Katz that the actions of the Israel Defense Forces in Gaza "do not enable achieving the war objectives as defined by the government, which is the dismantling of Hamas' governing and military capabilities."
They claim this includes seeing civilians in North Gaza as the enemy and destroying the sources of water, food and energy in the region
They said that the IDF must take this course of action not only in the northern Strip but in any other given sector.
"Thus far, the leadership in Israeli hasn’t clearly stated an intent to commit genocide." lprent
Maybe you are just not aware.
Can't help but be reminded of the time you weren't aware Pokeno had a supermarket, when a quick google search revealed that Pokeno did indeed have a supermarket.
Just as a quick google search will reveal many statements of intent to commit genocide made by Israeli leadership.
With shared forces, with deep faith in the justice of our cause and in the eternity of Israel, we will realize the prophecy of Isaiah 60:18.*
*[ Isaiah 60:18:."nations kingdoms that do not serve Jerusalem will be destroyed and perish” J.]
Statement by PM Netanyahu
"You must remember what Amalek has done to you, says our Holy Bible. And we do remember.”*
*[Samuel 15:3: “Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.”]
Nissim Vaturi, Israeli MP and Deputy Speaker
“wipe Gaza off the face of the earth,”
“Gaza must be burned.” “I stand behind my words… It is better to burn down buildings rather than have [Israeli] soldiers harmed. There are no innocents there,” he said in a radio interview before calling for the “elimination” of the estimated 100,000 Palestinians left in northern Gaza. “I have no mercy for those who are still there. We need to eliminate them,” added Vaturi, who belongs to Likud, the right-wing party led by Netanyahu.
Isaac Herzog President of Israel
"It is an entire nation out there that is responsible … this rhetoric about civilians not aware, not involved, it’s absolutely not true,” Herzog said. “They could’ve risen up, they could’ve fought against that evil regime that took over Gaza in a coup d’etat.”
“We will break their backbone,” Herzog added, while claiming – despite all evidence to the contrary – that Israel was adhering to the rule of international law.
Herzog’s remarks were reported by the Financial Times, which then deleted that section of its article, despite the authenticity of the speech, which was recorded on video.
“Hate on the enemy. Hate on the monsters. Every bucket of internal conflict is a horribly crazy and stupid waste of energy. Invest that energy in one thing: erasing all of Gaza from the face of the earth. That the brave monsters will fly to the southern fence and enter Egyptian territory. Or let them die. And his name is evil. Gaza needs to be wiped out. And fire and smoke on the heads of the the nazis in Judea and Samaria [West Bank]… Revengeful and vicious IDF is required here. Anything less than that is immoral.”
Now I could put up the links to these 500+ evidence of intent to commit genocide in Gaza, but of course it would trip the site's automatic spam filter for javomg too many links
I have already left out most of the links from the genocidal statements of intent made by Israeli leaders above for this very reason, but if you doubt the veracity of the quotes you can always google them..
I could go on, and continue to cut and paste lots more of these quotes and all the URL links to these statements of genocidal intent,, and all the verbatim reports and recordings of these Israeli leaders' declaring, their own words, their intent to commit genocide,, quotes cited by media outlets and by jurists and in their own press releases, maybe, just maybe, somehow, possibly, this could all be dismissed as 'propaganda' i.e. deliberately fabricated lies to make it look like these Israeli leaders intend to commit genocide, when they really don't..
Hi SPC, thank you for the link you supplied to the HRW document “Hopeless, Starving, and Besieged” which goes into depth examining the warnings that Israel gave to Palestinians to leave, or evacuate, certain areas; the shortness of notice, the confusing and often contradictory nature of these warnings to evacuate, the consequence and implementation of these orders to evacuate, including detailed reports of those obeying the Israeli evacuation orders to leave their homes being attacked on the roads and in the Israeli designated 'safe areas' they were ordered to go to. The destruction of housing and private and public property and infrastructure the deliberate destruction of agricultural land, bakeries, flour mills and other means of sustaining human life in those areas and other areas of Gaza generally.
In light of all this, do you still contend SPC that because the IDF issue warnings to leave certain areas before attacking them, that giving warnings is not consistent with committing the crime of genocide?
But since then, there has been a refusal to allow a return to housing and or deliberation of permanent clearance of housing from some areas.
While there is no official plan to place anyone else in these areas, it is still a forced population removal.
It is (only) permitted to temporarily displace or evacuate civilians to protect them from the effects of an attack, or if civilian security or imperative military reasons demand such displacement
This leads to other claims, still short of genocide, about what this can be called.
The article linked to does not assert this is genocide of itself yet.
See the Haaretz article above. It seems to confirm claims in the HRW article of an intent of permanent "forced displacement".
The claim that civilians seeking to return to their housing in such areas are to be seen as the enemy, is incitement to another war crime.
Militarism is a sad joke. Why the US kills so many of it's own, start by looking at the military, it's place in society. A poor to non-existence mental health system. Economic depravity.
I made a short submission today, as follows, on David Seymours TOW bill. Little to do with the TOW, but more about claims of Maori Privilege which underpin his philosophy.
I have heard David Seymour and others who publicly support this Bill, such as Don Brash, Hobsons Choice, Tax payers union, talk about "Maori Privilege" as a reason to revisit the Treaty of Waitangi. I think any detailed study of privilege in New Zealand would reveal that privilege, power and influence sits alongside wealth. Those with the highest concentration of wealth enjoy a higher concentration of power, influence and privilege. I think any detailed study will show that wealth and privilege is concentrated, disproportionately, with older/old pakeha males. Should the promoters of this Bill want to seriously address unequal privilege in this country the place to start is the (unequal) distribution of wealth. A good place to begin is the introduction of a comprehensive Capital Gains Tax.
I appreciate the links to other sites in the right hand column, but it seems that our news, and more especially political comment, is becoming more and more fragmented.
I saw an article recently that referred to an old post by David Farrar on using "Free Speech" as a vehicle for attacking human rights generally, legitimising strong political views – I think it was referred to in a recent post by a left commentator, but I cannot remember who or when – it covered recent activity regarding a "Human Rights" appointment to make objections to government policy more difficult to get action on – can anyone remember such an article? – I think it was in the last two weeks.
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Movements clustered around the Right, and Far Right as well, are rising globally. Despite the recent defeats we’ve seen in the last day or so with the win of a Democrat-backed challenger, Dane County Judge Susan Crawford, over her Republican counterpart, Waukesha County Judge Brad Schimel, in the battle for ...
In February 2025, John Cook gave two webinars for republicEN explaining the scientific consensus on human-caused climate change. 20 February 2025: republicEN webinar part 1 - BUST or TRUST? The scientific consensus on climate change In the first webinar, Cook explained the history of the 20-year scientific consensus on climate change. How do ...
After three decades of record-breaking growth, at about the same time as Xi Jinping rose to power in 2012, China’s economy started the long decline to its current state of stagnation. The Chinese Communist Party ...
The Pike River Coal mine was a ticking time bomb.Ventilation systems designed to prevent methane buildup were incomplete or neglected.Gas detectors that might warn of danger were absent or broken.Rock bolting was skipped, old tunnels left unsealed, communication systems failed during emergencies.Employees and engineers kept warning management about the … ...
Regional hegemons come in different shapes and sizes. Australia needs to think about what kind of hegemon China would be, and become, should it succeed in displacing the United States in Asia. It’s time to ...
RNZ has a story this morning about the expansion of solar farms in Aotearoa, driven by today's ground-breaking ceremony at the Tauhei solar farm in Te Aroha: From starting out as a tiny player in the electricity system, solar power generated more electricity than coal and gas combined for ...
After the Berlin Wall came down in 1989, and almost a year before the Soviet Union collapsed in late 1991, US President George H W Bush proclaimed a ‘new world order’. Now, just two months ...
Warning: Some images may be distressing. Thank you for those who support my work. It means a lot.A shopfront in Australia shows Liberal leader Peter Dutton and mining magnate Gina Rinehart depicted with Nazi imageryUS Government Seeks Death Penalty for Luigi MangioneMangione was publicly walked in front of media in ...
Aged care workers rallying against potential roster changes say Bupa, which runs retirement homes across the country, needs to focus on care instead of money. More than half of New Zealand workers wish they had chosen a different career according to a new survey. Consumers are likely to see a ...
The scurrilous attacks on Benjamin Doyle, a list Green MP, over his supposed inappropriate behaviour towards children has dominated headlines and social media this past week, led by frothing Rightwing agitators clutching their pearls and fanning the flames of moral panic over pedophiles and and perverts. Winston Peter decided that ...
Twilight Time Lighthouse Cuba, Wigan Street, Wellington, Sunday 6 April, 5:30pm for 6pm start. Twilight Time looks at the life and work of Desmond Ball, (1947-2016), a barefooted academic from ‘down under’ who was hailed by Jimmy Carter as “the man who saved the world”, as he proved the fallacy ...
The landedAnd the wealthyAnd the piousAnd the healthyAnd the straight onesAnd the pale onesAnd we only mean the male ones!If you're all of the above, then you're ok!As we build a new tomorrow here today!Lyrics Glenn Slater and Allan Menken.Ah, Democracy - can you smell it?It's presently a sulphurous odour, ...
US President Donald Trump’s unconventional methods of conducting international relations will compel the next federal government to reassess whether the United States’ presence in the region and its security assurances provide a reliable basis for ...
Things seem to be at a pretty low ebb in and around the Reserve Bank. There was, in particular, the mysterious, sudden, and as-yet unexplained resignation of the Governor (we’ve had four Governors since the Bank was given its operational autonomy 35 years ago, and only two have completed their ...
Long story short:PMChristopher Luxon said in January his Government was ‘going for growth’ and he wanted New Zealanders to develop a ‘culture of yes.’ Yet his own Government is constantly saying no, or not yet, to anchor investments that would unleash real private business investment and GDP growth. ...
Long story short:PMChristopher Luxon said in January his Government was ‘going for growth’ and he wanted New Zealanders to develop a ‘culture of yes.’ Yet his own Government is constantly saying no, or not yet, to anchor investments that would unleash real private business investment and GDP growth. ...
For decades, Britain and Australia had much the same process for regulating media handling of defence secrets. It was the D-notice system, under which media would be asked not to publish. The two countries diverged ...
For decades, Britain and Australia had much the same process for regulating media handling of defence secrets. It was the D-notice system, under which media would be asked not to publish. The two countries diverged ...
This post by Nicolas Reid was originally published on Linked in. It is republished here with permission.In this article, I make a not-entirely-serious case for ripping out Spaghetti Junction in Auckland, replacing it with a motorway tunnel, and redeveloping new city streets and neighbourhoods above it instead. What’s ...
This post by Nicolas Reid was originally published on Linked in. It is republished here with permission.In this article, I make a not-entirely-serious case for ripping out Spaghetti Junction in Auckland, replacing it with a motorway tunnel, and redeveloping new city streets and neighbourhoods above it instead. What’s ...
In short this morning in our political economy:The Nelson Hospital crisis revealed by 1News’Jessica Roden dominates the political agenda today. Yet again, population growth wasn’t planned for, or funded.Kāinga Ora is planning up to 900 house sales, including new ones, Jonathan Milne reports for Newsroom.One of New Zealand’s biggest ...
In short this morning in our political economy:The Nelson Hospital crisis revealed by 1News’Jessica Roden dominates the political agenda today. Yet again, population growth wasn’t planned for, or funded.Kāinga Ora is planning up to 900 house sales, including new ones, Jonathan Milne reports for Newsroom.One of New Zealand’s biggest ...
The war between Russia and Ukraine continues unabated. Neither side is in a position to achieve its stated objectives through military force. But now there is significant diplomatic activity as well. Ukraine has agreed to ...
One of the first aims of the United States’ new Department of Government Efficiency was shutting down USAID. By 6 February, the agency was functionally dissolved, its seal missing from its Washington headquarters. Amid the ...
If our strategic position was already challenging, it just got worse. Reliability of the US as an ally is in question, amid such actions by the Trump administration as calling for annexation of Canada, threating ...
Small businesses will be exempt from complying with some of the requirements of health and safety legislation under new reforms proposed by the Government. The living wage will be increased to $28.95 per hour from September, a $1.15 increase from the current $27.80. A poll has shown large opposition to ...
Summary A group of senior doctors in Nelson have spoken up, specifically stating that hospitals have never been as bad as in the last year.Patients are waiting up to 50 hours and 1 death is directly attributable to the situation: "I've never seen that number of patients waiting to be ...
Although semiconductor chips are ubiquitous nowadays, their production is concentrated in just a few countries, and this has left the US economy and military highly vulnerable at a time of rising geopolitical tensions. While the ...
Health and Safety changes driven by ACT party ideology, not evidence said NZCTU Te Kauae Kaimahi President Richard Wagstaff. Changes to health and safety legislation proposed by the Minister for Workplace Relations and Safety Brooke van Velden today comply with ACT party ideology, ignores the evidence, and will compound New ...
In short in our political economy this morning:Fletcher Building is closing its pre-fabricated house-building factory in Auckland due to a lack of demand, particularly from the Government.Health NZ is sending a crisis management team to Nelson Hospital after a 1News investigation exposed doctors’ fears that nearly 500 patients are overdue ...
Exactly 10 years ago, the then minister for defence, Kevin Andrews, released the First Principles Review: Creating One Defence (FPR). With increasing talk about the rising possibility of major power-conflict, calls for Defence funding to ...
In events eerily similar to what happened in the USA last week, Greater Auckland was recently accidentally added to a group chat between government ministers on the topic of transport.We have no idea how it happened, but luckily we managed to transcribe most of what transpired. We share it ...
Hi,When I look back at my history with Dylan Reeve, it’s pretty unusual. We first met in the pool at Kim Dotcom’s mansion, as helicopters buzzed overhead and secret service agents flung themselves off the side of his house, abseiling to the ground with guns drawn.Kim Dotcom was a German ...
Come around for teaDance me round and round the kitchenBy the light of my T.VOn the night of the electionAncient stars will fall into the seaAnd the ocean floor sings her sympathySongwriter: Bic Runga.The Prime Minister stared into the camera, hot and flustered despite the predawn chill. He looked sadly ...
Has Winston Peters got a ferries deal for you! (Buyer caution advised.) Unfortunately, the vision that Peters has been busily peddling for the past 24 hours – of several shipyards bidding down the price of us getting smaller, narrower, rail-enabled ferries – looks more like a science fiction fantasy. One ...
Completed reads for March: The Heart of the Antarctic [1907-1909], by Ernest Shackleton South [1914-1917], by Ernest Shackleton Aurora Australis (collection), edited by Ernest Shackleton The Book of Urizen (poem), by William Blake The Book of Ahania (poem), by William Blake The Book of Los (poem), by William Blake ...
First - A ReminderBenjamin Doyle Doesn’t Deserve ThisI’ve been following posts regarding Green MP Benjamin Doyle over the last few days, but didn’t want to amplify the abject nonsense.This morning, Winston Peters, New Zealand’s Deputy Prime Minister, answered the alt-right’s prayers - guaranteeing amplification of the topic, by going on ...
US President Donald Trump has shown a callous disregard for the checks and balances that have long protected American democracy. As the self-described ‘king’ makes a momentous power grab, much of the world watches anxiously, ...
They can be the very same words. And yet their meaning can vary very much.You can say I'll kill him about your colleague who accidentally deleted your presentation the day before a big meeting.You can say I'll kill him to — or, for that matter, about — Tony Soprano.They’re the ...
Back in 2020, the then-Labour government signed contracted for the construction and purchase of two new rail-enabled Cook Strait ferries, to be operational from 2026. But when National took power in 2023, they cancelled them in a desperate effort to make the books look good for a year. And now ...
The fragmentation of cyber regulation in the Indo-Pacific is not just inconvenient; it is a strategic vulnerability. In recent years, governments across the Indo-Pacific, including Australia, have moved to reform their regulatory frameworks for cyber ...
Welcome to the March 2025 Economic Bulletin. The feature article examines what public private partnerships (PPPs) are. PPPs have been a hot topic recently, with the coalition government signalling it wants to use them to deliver infrastructure. However, experience with PPPs, both here and overseas, indicates we should be wary. ...
Willis announces more plans of plans for supermarketsYesterday’s much touted supermarket competition announcement by Nicola Willis amounted to her telling us she was issuing a 6 week RFI1 that will solicit advice from supermarket players.In short, it was an announcement of a plan - but better than her Kiwirail Interislander ...
This was the post I was planning to write this morning to mark Orr’s final day. That said, if the underlying events – deliberate attempts to mislead Parliament – were Orr’s doing, the post is more about the apparent uselessness of Parliament (specifically the Finance and Expenditure Committee) in holding ...
Taiwanese chipmaking giant TSMC’s plan to build a plant in the United States looks like a move made at the behest of local officials to solidify US support for Taiwan. However, it may eventually lessen ...
This is a Guest Post by Transport Planner Bevan Woodward from the charitable trust Movement, which has lodged an application for a judicial review of the Governments Setting of Speed Limits Rule 2024 Auckland is at grave risk of having its safer speed limits on approx. 1,500 local streets ...
We're just talkin' 'bout the futureForget about the pastIt'll always be with usIt's never gonna die, never gonna dieSongwriters: Brian Johnson / Angus Young / Malcolm YoungMorena, all you lovely people, it’s good to be back, and I have news from the heartland. Now brace yourself for this: depending on ...
Today is the last day in office for the Governor of the Reserve Bank, Adrian Orr. Of course, he hasn’t been in the office since 5 March when, on the eve of his major international conference, his resignation was announced and he stormed off with no (effective) notice and no ...
Treasury and Cabinet have finally agreed to a Crown guarantee for a non-Government lending agency for Community Housing Providers (CHPs), which could unlock billions worth of loans and investments by pension funds and banks to build thousands of more affordable social homes. Photo: Lynn GrievesonMōrena. Long stories shortest:Chris Bishop ...
Australia has plenty of room to spend more on defence. History shows that 2.9 percent of GDP is no great burden in ordinary times, so pushing spending to 3.0 percent in dangerous times is very ...
In short this morning in our political economy:Winston Peters will announce later today whether two new ferries are rail ‘compatible’, requiring time-consuming container shuffling, or the more efficient and expensive rail ‘enabled,’ where wagons can roll straight on and off.Nicola Willisthreatened yesterday to break up the supermarket duopoly with ...
A listing of 31 news and opinion articles we found interesting and shared on social media during the past week: Sun, March 23, 2025 thru Sat, March 29, 2025. This week's roundup is again published by category and sorted by number of articles included in each. The formatting is a ...
For prospective writers out there, Inspired Quill, the publisher of my novel(s) is putting together a short story anthology (pieces up to 10,000 words). The open submission window is 29th March to 29th April. https://www.inspired-quill.com/anthology-submissions/ The theme?This anthology will bring together diverse voices exploring themes of hope, resistance, and human ...
Prime minister Kevin Rudd released the 2009 defence white paper in May of that year. It is today remembered mostly for what it said about the strategic implications of China’s rise; its plan to double ...
In short this morning in our political economy:Voters want the Government to retain the living wage for cleaners, a poll shows.The Government’s move to provide a Crown guarantee to banks and the private sector for social housing is described a watershed moment and welcomed by Community Housing Providers.Nicola Willis is ...
The recent attacks in the Congo by Rwandan backed militias has led to worldwide condemnation of the Rwandan regime of Paul Kagame. Following up on the recent Fabian Zoom with Mikela Wrong and Maria Amoudian, Dr Rudaswinga will give a complete picture of Kagame’s regime and discuss the potential ...
New Zealand’s economic development has always been a partnership between the public and private sectors.Public-Private-Partnerships (PPPs) have become fashionable again, partly because of the government’s ambitions to accelerate infrastructural development. There is, of course, an ideological element too, while some of the opposition to them is also ideological.PPPs come in ...
How Australia funds development and defence was front of mind before Tuesday’s federal budget. US President Donald Trump’s demands for a dramatic lift in allied military spending and brutal cuts to US foreign assistance meant ...
Questions 1. Where and what is this protest?a. Hamilton, angry crowd yelling What kind of food do you call this Seymour?b.Dunedin, angry crowd yelling Still waiting, Simeon, still waitingc. Wellington, angry crowd yelling You’re trashing everything you idiotsd. Istanbul, angry crowd yelling Give us our democracy back, give it ...
Two blueprints that could redefine the Northern Territory’s economic future were launched last week. The first was a government-led economic strategy and the other an industry-driven economic roadmap. Both highlight that supporting the Northern Territory ...
Abortion care at Whakatāne Hospital has been quietly shelved, with patients told they will likely have to travel more than an hour to Tauranga to get the treatment they need. ...
Thousands of New Zealanders’ submissions are missing from the official parliamentary record because the National-dominated Justice Select Committee has rushed work on the Treaty Principles Bill. ...
Today’s announcement of 10 percent tariffs for New Zealand goods entering the United States is disappointing for exporters and consumers alike, with the long-lasting impact on prices and inflation still unknown. ...
The National Government’s choices have contributed to a slow-down in the building sector, as thousands of people have lost their jobs in construction. ...
Willie Apiata’s decision to hand over his Victoria Cross to the Minister for Veterans is a powerful and selfless act, made on behalf of all those who have served our country. ...
The Privileges Committee has denied fundamental rights to Debbie Ngarewa-Packer, Rawiri Waititi and Hana-Rawhiti Maipi-Clarke, breaching their own standing orders, breaching principles of natural justice, and highlighting systemic prejudice and discrimination within our parliamentary processes. The three MPs were summoned to the privileges committee following their performance of a haka ...
April 1 used to be a day when workers could count on a pay rise with stronger support for those doing it tough, but that’s not the case under this Government. ...
Winston Peters is shopping for smaller ferries after Nicola Willis torpedoed the original deal, which would have delivered new rail enabled ferries next year. ...
The Government should work with other countries to press the Myanmar military regime to stop its bombing campaign especially while the country recovers from the devastating earthquake. ...
The Green Party is calling for the Government to scrap proposed changes to Early Childhood Care, after attending a petition calling for the Government to ‘Put tamariki at the heart of decisions about ECE’. ...
New Zealand First has introduced a Member’s Bill today that will remove the power of MPs conscience votes and ensure mandatory national referendums are held before any conscience issues are passed into law. “We are giving democracy and power back to the people”, says New Zealand First Leader Winston Peters. ...
Welcome to members of the diplomatic corp, fellow members of parliament, the fourth estate, foreign affairs experts, trade tragics, ladies and gentlemen. ...
In recent weeks, disturbing instances of state-sanctioned violence against Māori have shed light on the systemic racism permeating our institutions. An 11-year-old autistic Māori child was forcibly medicated at the Henry Bennett Centre, a 15-year-old had his jaw broken by police in Napier, kaumātua Dean Wickliffe went on a hunger ...
Confidence in the job market has continued to drop to its lowest level in five years as more New Zealanders feel uncertain about finding work, keeping their jobs, and getting decent pay, according to the latest Westpac-McDermott Miller Employment Confidence Index. ...
The Greens are calling on the Government to follow through on their vague promises of environmental protection in their Resource Management Act (RMA) reform. ...
“Make New Zealand First Again” Ladies and gentlemen, First of all, thank you for being here today. We know your lives are busy and you are working harder and longer than you ever have, and there are many calls on your time, so thank you for the chance to speak ...
Hundreds more Palestinians have died in recent days as Israel’s assault on Gaza continues and humanitarian aid, including food and medicine, is blocked. ...
National is looking to cut hundreds of jobs at New Zealand’s Defence Force, while at the same time it talks up plans to increase focus and spending in Defence. ...
It’s been revealed that the Government is secretly trying to bring back a ‘one-size fits all’ standardised test – a decision that has shocked school principals. ...
The Green Party is calling for the compassionate release of Dean Wickliffe, a 77-year-old kaumātua on hunger strike at the Spring Hill Corrections Facility, after visiting him at the prison. ...
The Green Party is calling on Government MPs to support Chlöe Swarbrick’s Member’s Bill to sanction Israel for its unlawful presence and illegal actions in Palestine, following another day of appalling violence against civilians in Gaza. ...
The Green Party stands in support of volunteer firefighters petitioning the Government to step up and change legislation to provide volunteers the same ACC coverage and benefits as their paid counterparts. ...
At 2.30am local time, Israel launched a treacherous attack on Gaza killing more than 300 defenceless civilians while they slept. Many of them were children. This followed a more than 2 week-long blockade by Israel on the entry of all goods and aid into Gaza. Israel deliberately targeted densely populated ...
Living Strong, Aging Well There is much discussion around the health of our older New Zealanders and how we can age well. In reality, the delivery of health services accounts for only a relatively small percentage of health outcomes as we age. Significantly, dry warm housing, nutrition, exercise, social connection, ...
Shane Jones’ display on Q&A showed how out of touch he and this Government are with our communities and how in sync they are with companies with little concern for people and planet. ...
The Government’s new planning legislation to replace the Resource Management Act will make it easier to get things done while protecting the environment, say Minister Responsible for RMA Reform Chris Bishop and Under-Secretary Simon Court. “The RMA is broken and everyone knows it. It makes it too hard to build ...
Trade and Investment Minister Todd McClay has today launched a public consultation on New Zealand and India’s negotiations of a formal comprehensive Free Trade Agreement. “Negotiations are getting underway, and the Public’s views will better inform us in the early parts of this important negotiation,” Mr McClay says. We are ...
More than 900 thousand superannuitants and almost five thousand veterans are among the New Zealanders set to receive a significant financial boost from next week, an uplift Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says will help support them through cost-of-living challenges. “I am pleased to confirm that from 1 ...
Progressing a holistic strategy to unlock the potential of New Zealand’s geothermal resources, possibly in applications beyond energy generation, is at the centre of discussions with mana whenua at a hui in Rotorua today, Resources and Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says. The Coalition Government is in the early stages ...
New annual data has exposed the staggering cost of delays previously hidden in the building consent system, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says. “I directed Building Consent Authorities to begin providing quarterly data last year to improve transparency, following repeated complaints from tradespeople waiting far longer than the statutory ...
Increases in water charges for Auckland consumers this year will be halved under the Watercare Charter which has now been passed into law, Local Government Minister Simon Watts and Auckland Minister Simeon Brown say. The charter is part of the financial arrangement for Watercare developed last year by Auckland Council ...
There is wide public support for the Government’s work to strengthen New Zealand’s biosecurity protections, says Biosecurity Minister Andrew Hoggard. “The Ministry for Primary Industries recently completed public consultation on proposed amendments to the Biosecurity Act and the submissions show that people understand the importance of having a strong biosecurity ...
A new independent review function will enable individuals and organisations to seek an expert independent review of specified civil aviation regulatory decisions made by, or on behalf of, the Director of Civil Aviation, Acting Transport Minister James Meager has announced today. “Today we are making it easier and more affordable ...
The Government will invest in an enhanced overnight urgent care service for the Napier community as part of our focus on ensuring access to timely, quality healthcare, Health Minister Simeon Brown has today confirmed. “I am delighted that a solution has been found to ensure Napier residents will continue to ...
Health Minister Simeon Brown and Mental Health Minister Matt Doocey attended a sod turning today to officially mark the start of construction on a new mental health facility at Hillmorton Campus. “This represents a significant step in modernising mental health services in Canterbury,” Mr Brown says. “Improving health infrastructure is ...
Finance Minister Nicola Willis has welcomed confirmation the economy has turned the corner. Stats NZ reported today that gross domestic product grew 0.7 per cent in the three months to December following falls in the June and September quarters. “We know many families and businesses are still suffering the after-effects ...
The sealing of a 12-kilometre stretch of State Highway 43 (SH43) through the Tangarakau Gorge – one of the last remaining sections of unsealed state highway in the country – has been completed this week as part of a wider programme of work aimed at improving the safety and resilience ...
Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Winston Peters says relations between New Zealand and the United States are on a strong footing, as he concludes a week-long visit to New York and Washington DC today. “We came to the United States to ask the new Administration what it wants from ...
Associate Justice Minister Nicole McKee has welcomed changes to international anti-money laundering standards which closely align with the Government’s reforms. “The Financial Action Taskforce (FATF) last month adopted revised standards for tackling money laundering and the financing of terrorism to allow for simplified regulatory measures for businesses, organisations and sectors ...
Associate Health Minister David Seymour says he welcomes Medsafe’s decision to approve an electronic controlled drug register for use in New Zealand pharmacies, allowing pharmacies to replace their physical paper-based register. “The register, developed by Kiwi brand Toniq Limited, is the first of its kind to be approved in New ...
The Coalition Government’s drive for regional economic growth through the $1.2 billion Regional Infrastructure Fund is on track with more than $550 million in funding so far committed to key infrastructure projects, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says. “To date, the Regional Infrastructure Fund (RIF) has received more than 250 ...
[Comments following the bilateral meeting with United States Secretary of State, Marco Rubio; United States State Department, Washington D.C.] * We’re very pleased with our meeting with Secretary of State Marco Rubio this afternoon. * We came here to listen to the new Administration and to be clear about what ...
The intersection of State Highway 2 (SH2) and Wainui Road in the Eastern Bay of Plenty will be made safer and more efficient for vehicles and freight with the construction of a new and long-awaited roundabout, says Transport Minister Chris Bishop. “The current intersection of SH2 and Wainui Road is ...
The Ocean Race will return to the City of Sails in 2027 following the Government’s decision to invest up to $4 million from the Major Events Fund into the international event, Auckland Minister Simeon Brown says. “New Zealand is a proud sailing nation, and Auckland is well-known internationally as the ...
Improving access to mental health and addiction support took a significant step forward today with Mental Health Minister Matt Doocey announcing that the University of Canterbury have been the first to be selected to develop the Government’s new associate psychologist training programme. “I am thrilled that the University of Canterbury ...
Health Minister Simeon Brown has today officially opened the new East Building expansion at Manukau Health Park. “This is a significant milestone and the first stage of the Grow Manukau programme, which will double the footprint of the Manukau Health Park to around 30,000m2 once complete,” Mr Brown says. “Home ...
The Government will boost anti-crime measures across central Auckland with $1.3 million of funding as a result of the Proceeds of Crime Fund, Auckland Minister Simeon Brown and Associate Justice Minister Nicole McKee say. “In recent years there has been increased antisocial and criminal behaviour in our CBD. The Government ...
The Government is moving to strengthen rules for feeding food waste to pigs to protect New Zealand from exotic animal diseases like foot and mouth disease (FMD), says Biosecurity Minister Andrew Hoggard. ‘Feeding untreated meat waste, often known as "swill", to pigs could introduce serious animal diseases like FMD and ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi held productive talks in New Delhi today. Fresh off announcing that New Zealand and India would commence negotiations towards a Comprehensive Free Trade Agreement, the two Prime Ministers released a joint statement detailing plans for further cooperation between the two countries across ...
Agriculture and Trade Minister Todd McClay signed a new Memorandum of Cooperation (MOC) today during the Prime Minister’s Indian Trade Mission, reinforcing New Zealand’s commitment to enhancing collaboration with India in the forestry sector. “Our relationship with India is a key priority for New Zealand, and this agreement reflects our ...
Agriculture and Trade Minister Todd McClay signed a new Memorandum of Cooperation (MOC) today during the Prime Minister’s Indian Trade Mission, reinforcing New Zealand’s commitment to enhancing collaboration with India in the horticulture sector. “Our relationship with India is a key priority for New Zealand, and this agreement reflects our ...
Attorney-General Judith Collins today announced the appointment of two new Family Court Judges. The new Judges will take up their roles in April and May and fill Family Court vacancies at the Auckland and Manukau courts. Annette Gray Ms Gray completed her law degree at Victoria University before joining Phillips ...
Health Minister Simeon Brown has today officially opened Wellington Regional Hospital’s first High Dependency Unit (HDU). “This unit will boost critical care services in the lower North Island, providing extra capacity and relieving pressure on the hospital’s Intensive Care Unit (ICU) and emergency department. “Wellington Regional Hospital has previously relied ...
Namaskar, Sat Sri Akal, kia ora and good afternoon everyone. What an honour it is to stand on this stage - to inaugurate this august Dialogue - with none other than the Honourable Narendra Modi. My good friend, thank you for so generously welcoming me to India and for our ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Stephanie Brodie, Research Scientist in Marine Ecology, CSIRO jittawit21, Shutterstock Picture this: you’re lounging on a beautiful beach, soaking up the sun and listening to the soothing sound of the waves. You run your hands through the warm sand, only to ...
By Caleb Fotheringham, RNZ Pacific journalist Although New Zealand and Australia seem to have escaped the worst of Donald Trump’s latest tariffs, some Pacific Islands stand to be hit hard — including a few that aren’t even “countries”. The US will impose a base tariff of 10 percent on all ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michelle Grattan, Professorial Fellow, University of Canberra Prime Minister Anthony Albanese and Opposition Leader Peter Dutton both agree Australia should react to US President Donald Trump’s aggressive tariff regime by continuing to seek a special deal. They just disagree about which of ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Joanne Orlando, Researcher, Digital Literacy and Digital Wellbeing, Western Sydney University UK Prime Minster Keir Starmer met with Adolescence writer Jack Thorne to discuss adolescent safety at Downing Street on Monday. Jack Taylor/ GettyImages Netflix’s Adolescence has ignited global debate. ...
By Anneke Smith,RNZ News political reporter A stoush between the Chief Human Rights Commissioner and a Jewish community leader has flared up following a showdown at Parliament. Appearing before a parliamentary select committee today, Dr Stephen Rainbow was asked about his recent apology for incorrect comments he made about ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Rakesh Gupta, Associate Professor of Accounting & Finance, Charles Darwin University US President Donald Trump’s new trade war will not only send shockwaves through the global economy – it also upsets efforts to tackle the urgent issue of climate change. Trump has ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Lisa Toohey, Professor of Law, UNSW Sydney It had the hallmarks of a reality TV cliffhanger. Until recently, many people had never even heard of tariffs. Now, there’s been rolling live international coverage of so-called “Liberation Day”, as US President Donald Trump ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Nick Fuller, Clinical Trials Director, Department of Endocrinology, RPA Hospital, University of Sydney mavo/Shutterstock In the ever-changing wellness industry, one diet obsession has captured and held TikTok’s attention: protein. Whether it’s sharing snaps of protein-packed meals or giving tutorials to ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Sebastian Maslow, Associate Professor, International Relations, University of Tokyo Two months into US President Donald Trump’s second term, the liberal international order is on life support. Alliances and multilateral institutions are now seen by the United States as burdens. Europe and ...
Starving public services of resources, gutting the workforce and then proposing private market solutions has been a key strategy of this government, says Vanessa Cole, spokesperson for Public Housing Futures. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Hayley Geyle, Ecologist, Charles Darwin University Sarah Maclagan/Author provided The greater bilby (Macrotis lagotis) is one of Australia’s most iconic yet at-risk animals — and the last surviving bilby species. Once found across 70% of Australia, its range has contracted by ...
The government’s own Regulatory Impact Statement acknowledges that organic producers will bear the financial burden of adapting to the risks posed by GMO expansion. ...
The committee has "rammed it through with outrageous haste", with a report now expected tomorrow, but excluding thousands of submissions, Duncan Webb says. ...
The US president’s sweeping programme of global tariffs will hit every country abroad, including New Zealand, and dramatically raise prices at home. This is an excerpt from The World Bulletin, our weekly global current affairs newsletter exclusively for Spinoff Members. Sign up here.In a dramatic, flag-draped address from the White ...
Alex Casey talks to Bariz Shah and Saba Afrasyabi, the couple who launched a project to change 51 lives in honour of those lost in the Christchurch mosque attacks. When Bariz Shah and Saba Afrasyabi walked into Naeem’s house in Jalalabad, Afghanistan, they knew immediately that he needed their help. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Felicity Deane, Professor of Trade Law, Taxation and Climate Change, Queensland University of Technology US President Donald Trump has imposed a range of tariffs on all products entering the US market, with Australian exports set to face a 10% tariff, effective April ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michelle Grattan, Professorial Fellow, University of Canberra US President Donald Trump singled out Australia’s beef trade for special mention in his announcement that the United States would impose a 10% global tariff as well as “reciprocal tariffs” on many countries. In ...
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NZME's NZ Herald appears to be unashamedly showing its true colours, in todays "News Worth Knowing" advertisement featuring three jovial Coalition leaders.
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What the science of predators tells us about the morbidly rich | Opinion
How the rich "kill the goose".
In human society there is the democratic accountability component. The elites are aware of this and are active changing the rules to try and prevent correction to their extremist order design.
And. Another excellent piece from Anne Salmond.
Anne Salmond: Hunger Games in the Beehive
They no longer want the nation state to be accountable for "charity to the poor", or the adequacy of taxpayer public health care.
So, if you had the money and you could save a bit of New Zealand that wasn't otherwise going to be saved, would you give your money to NZNatureFund?
This Newsroom article puts an inevitably negative frame upon it as creeping baseline funding displacement:
https://newsroom.co.nz/2025/01/03/docs-big-donation-drive-gets-mixed-reviews/
This summarises many of the big projects that NZNatureFund actually does:
https://nznaturefund.org/projects/
If you want to be a largely grssroots and hence very small scale effort in actual conservation work, there's myriad to choose from, and Ford and Bird are as good a clearning-house as any to get in with them.
There are others operating on a regional scale but with little central government input, like https://arkinthepark.org.nz/ As ever so much of their work relies on a few paid staff and otherwise scores and scores of volunteers over years and years.
Then there's the fully private version like Santuary Mountain Maungatautiri which is 3,300 hectares of fully fenced enclosure, and about the only pace I've seen 10 Tuatara in sunlight and looking very comfortable with it.
https://www.sanctuarymountain.co.nz/
But then there's NZNatureFund, which is a medium-scale donor aggregator to actually assist DoC with some of the big projects – the biggest one to date is the full eradication of pests from Auckland Island which would be a mighty feat.
I have a sneaking suspicion that DoC projects have the depth of emotional appeal that enable donors both locally and from afar to do some good. I can't see a hard line policy distinction for decreasing donor influence on DoC – in fact it's more like the state is lagging behind in capturing private conservation donations when there are so many large and medium scale models across the country already operating and doing very solid work.
But still worth a policy discussion.
A couple I support atm are Wasp Wipeout Summer 2024/2025 (who doesn't enjoy killing a few million wasps) and Native Forest Restoration Trust to purchase and lock up native forest
Will New Zealand lawmakers heed her call?
The Genocide Convention to which New Zealand is a signatory, stipulates that all countries that, detect a genocide is being committed, must take all actions to prevent it.
Does the Luxon administration believe in upholding the international rule of law, or not?
Does our parliamentary opposition have the courage to hold them to account?
Proposed Parliamentary members bill:
https://www.mfat.govt.nz/en/media-and-resources/mfat-diplomatic-reporting-marks-25th-anniversary-of-rwanda-genocide
The Guardian calls Musk, who is trolling the UK, and Starmer specifically, 'the world's richest pub bore'. Well called.
Would we have done our best to save Anne Frank and the countless others like her, if we could have?
Have our lawmakers done their best to save Hind Rajab and the countless others like her, as they should have?
Hind Rajab The Anne Frank of Palestine by Indie Nile
Lawmakers? Really?
It's a safe assertion that from southern Turkey to northern Iraq, all the way to the Sinai, and down to Yemen, international law isn't having any effect on peaceful outcomes.
Nor across to Sudan/Chad.
Troll, troll, troll of the week.
Oh wait, nope that not original an troll, is all across the place spread by members of unit 8200
https://www.mintpressnews.com/exposed-how-israeli-spies-control-your-vpn/288259/
How is it noting that those of Chad and Sudan have it tough at the moment, not just those in the ME, a "troll".
PS
There is no link between use of (or spying on use of) VPN'S and actually posting anything online – read the link properly.
Ya missed a few, so I say ya trolling like person influenced by unit 8200. Propaganda from them has been top notch.
Signals intell (as per VPN access) has nothing to do with propaganda.
Somene says Gaza, someone adds other places too, and then somone adds Sudan and Chad.
Propaganda looks like the posts found on Standard search – "Adam Ukraine and Russia".
Let it go, Adam, and refute their comments with strong counter-arguments if you can. The Mods and SYSOP can handle it if indeed SPC is trolling this site.
Action is mobilised at the international level.
Can the UNGA can find work arounds for the UNSC roadblocks?
The answer to your question SPC is, No.
But you probably knew that.
By design; majority votes in the UNGA are non-binding, making the UNGA powerless to decide on the evidence of acts of genocide. Even the UNSC is powerless to decide on the evidence of acts of genocide, if just one of its permanent members uses their veto to quash any proposed motion.
If only just one member of the UNSC uses its veto. even for a vote on the crime of genocide, the UNGA and the UNSC are both rendered powerless to act.
But….
When it comes to the crime of genocide the UNGA and the UNSC don't need to decide to act against a genocide.
The decision to act against the crime of genocide was made in 1948 when the Genocide Convention was first agreed to by its founding signatories.
By design; The Genocide Convention specifically calls on all states that are signatories to the Genocide Convention to act if they detect a genocide.
A fact that the Russian Federation falsely exploited as a political figleaf to cover its unprovoked attack on Ukraine.
Waiting on a decision of the UNGA and the UNSC and ICJ is a cowardly abrogation of this country's responsibilities as a signatory the United Nations Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide. (The Genocide Convention)
If the government of New Zealand officially decides, that based on evidence put
before them, that there is a plausible case that a genocide is being committed in Gaza by the state of Israel, then this country is legally bound to make, to the best of our ability, efforts to prevent it.
It is for this purpose that I have suggested that at least one concerned MP put a private Members Bill in the ballot to decide the issue.
An individual nations capacity might well be limited.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/26800626
https://www.jstor.org/page-scan-delivery/get-page-scan/26800626/0
If New Zealand or any other signatory to the United Nations Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, determine that a genocide is being committed, nowhere in the convention is it written that they have to wait on 'the possible assumption of a referral power' before taking action to prevent that genocide.
That the nations represented in the UN General Assembly even has trouble referring cases to the ICC without being vetoed by the UN Security Council, pretty much confirms the impotence of the assembly of nations in the General Assembly, Which is the way it was designed from its founding after World War II by the victorious world powers of the time, Britain, China, France, USA, USSR/Russia. These five global powers still keep decision making power in the UN to themselves to this very day.
The UNSC is the ultimate decision making body of the UN, but as your link, SPC, makes clear the UNSC is strapped by the veto not to make decisions that go against any of the interests of the five permanent members, or their allies.
From your link:
On the occasions where the nations of the General Assembly do come to an agreement, and the nations of the Security Council don't veto it, then that international agreement is often codified as a United Nations International Convention, binding on the signatory countries that ratify that convention.
The United Nations ban on ozone depleting CFCs known as the Vienna Convention is one example of a United Nations international convention that is binding on its signatories.
https://legal.un.org/avl/ha/vcpol/vcpol.html
The United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), is another of the United Nations conventions that is binding on its signatories, making it one of the conventions that makes up part of what is generally referred to as, 'the international rules-based order', (or system).
The US is not a signatory to The United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS,) but demands that China, also not a signatory, adhere to its principles.
https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/us-state-department-picks-apart-prcs-south-china-sea-customary-law-claim
The US and other supporters of the 'Rules-based International order' don't wait for a ruling from the ICC or ICJ on breaches of the UN Convention on the law of the Sea before acting on enforcing it.
Nor do we. We did not wait for 'the possible assumption of a referral power' before deciding the Houtis enforcement of a blockade on ships heading for Israel, was illegal under maritime law.
If this country determines that Israel is committing genocide, then neither should we wait for 'the possible assumption of a referral power' before taking action under our legal obligations to the Genocide Convention.
Tell me SPC, after all this, do you still stand by your contention, that it not a genocide, because the IDF issue warnings to the Palestinians to leave an area before they start destroying the buildings and infrastructure and killing those remaining in that area?
I would be grateful if you could let me know your answer.
Israel's intent to commit Genocide is not hard to prove.
Amnesty International
26 Feb 2024 — Israel defying ICJ ruling to prevent genocide by failing to allow adequate humanitarian aid to reach Gaza……
The Guardian
3 Jan 2024 — A group of prominent Israelis has accused the country's judicial authorities of ignoring “extensive and blatant” incitement to genocide……
Al Jazeera
14 Jan 2024 — A database of 500 statements showing Israeli incitement to genocide provides ample evidence of genocidal intent…..
NBC News
13 Nov 2023 — “Some of that rhetoric can be seen as potentially genocidal from the way that it dehumanizes Palestinian civilians,”….
Jewish Currents
https://jewishcurrents.org › a-textbook-case-of-genocide
13 Oct 2023 — Under international law, the crime of genocide is defined by “the intent … Indeed, Israel's genocidal assault on Gaza is quite explicit,…..
Without the possible assumption of a referral power by a collective of nations at the UNGA level, there would not be effective action.
Action such as the recent Red Sea one, requires nations to work together. It followed Resolution 2722 at the UNSC.
As I posted a few days back.
https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-03-01-2025/#comment-2020540
The ICC has yet to issue arrest warrants as per incitement to genocide, the first part of a process to punish this.
Statements by individuals do not provide evidence of a collective guilt as per a plan to act on the incitement. Deeds do, such as denial of access to aid to civilians.
All the information you cited was known to the ICC and it only concluded there was a case to answer.
So far it has limited its action to issuing warrants for crimes against humanity and war crimes.
Thank you SPC for your reply.
American Steve Clemons for Al Jazeera interviews Israeli Daniel Levy.
I would urge you to watch this video. Which I found compelling viewing.
What it is, is two men sitting in a room talking.
What it is not, is a video compilation of Israeli atrocities.
Watch this video then tell me what you think.
Then I might ask you again, if 'you' still think this is a genocide or not.
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Who is Daniel Levy?
From Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
Levy is still on the right side of history.
BN of Likud opposed the Oslo Accords and exploited the assassination of Rabin to become PM.
I am sure he, like I, supported Barak to become PM (I wrote to the Labour leader and offered strategic and tactical advice before the election in 1999)(as I have done here and even for Blair of the UK, in 1998 – I now wish it had been in 2002 and to advise him to block Bush going into Iraq).
After the failure of the 2000 peace talks, I advised Barak that better treatment of the Israeli Arabs would minimise the risk of the nations place in the ME being called into question afterwards.
Which, as Levy noted here, is the problem for Israel if the Gaza action does not result in Palestinian (new elections) unity and a potential for resumption of peace (Palestinian state formation) talks.
He is right that the fences, after the intifada, created more than a physical distance between the two populations. And while Al Jazeera may not like it, if being censored by the PA leads to its return in Gaza, and new elections – then it is taking one for the team.
PS as per automated targeting systems, this is probably an international regulatory regime matter (as to war crimes mitigation).
Those are comparatively easy to prove in evidence. Problem with the act of genocide is that is only really provable after the fact.
Thus far, the leadership in Israeli hasn’t clearly stated an intent to commit genocide. Instead they appear to be acting exactly like the Nazi leadership from 1933 until the liberation of Belsen. They never claimed an intent nor acts of genocide. It took finding the gas chambers and mass graves to discover that.
However both of those governments have been clearly involved in clear ethnic cleansing.
The record of the IDF in 1948 in active ethnic cleansing of civilian Islamic ‘Arabs’ out of their partition was clearly documented both as intent and action by the IDF. As was the subsequent seizure of their ‘abandoned’ property. Similarly, the laws promulgated in 1948 and later that were clearly designed It followed exactly the same playbook that the Nazis used in the 1930s to enrich themselves from dispossession of Jewish families.
The IDF was founded on unethical behaviour (and piss-poor discipline). It has continued that to this day.
I’d be happy to provide verifiable links to all of these events. However I am sure you know the history anyway.
Sure after 5 Arabs states said they would send their armies to end any Jewish state, and no nation said they would stand by Israel, the Israelis had to survive on their own.
Some war crimes and ethnic cleansing resulted in areas held by both the IDF and the Arab armies (no Jewish settlements outside the IDF zone survived in Palestine) and hundreds of thousands of Jews left Arab nations without their property.
The same happened when Yugoslavia broke up and a lot of cross border movement when Pakistan separated out of India.
At Wannsee there was a plan, the camps were known of long before 1945.
But kept secret from the western public, lest this might be seen as unethical. The 1939 White Paper keeping Jews out of Palestine (as refugees from Europe) … still enforced on concentration camp survivors after 1945.
You also managed to miss the context of an ongoing civil war in the Palestinian Mandate for the previous 6 months prior to the declaration since the partition scheme was voted in the UN. That, along with the massacres and ethnic cleansing by Israelis, was the context of surrounding Arab states announcing prior to the declaration of Israeli independence that they would oppose it militarily.
But anyway, how does even that bit of Israeli propaganda justify the brutal ethnic cleansing in 1947/8, a number of massacres by Israeli militias (particularly by the Irgun) in the same period before they joined the IDF, and the current IDF dropping 2000lb bombs on civilian apartment blocks?
It is a curious moral compass you operate with.
Because the British allowed migration into the LoN/UN mandate despite repeated appeals against it by local inhabitants, resulting in a civil war – this somehow justifies the IDF acting like unethical arseholes ever since?
Yes, and in the former case there have been a number of trials about ethnic cleansing related to Yugoslavia. The term was actually coined in the 1980s to describe Serbian operations in Kosovo.
The ethnic cleansing in the Indian subcontinent after British withdrawal as well as the Israeli effort in Palestine have both caused massive and persistent down-history aggravation. Same in Yugoslavia, Rwanda, etc. Which is exactly why ethnic cleansing is now regarded internationally as being a crime.
They were known. Written about in news media in the West prior to the war after 1935. Written about during the war.
What you appear to be conflating is the evidence of the extermination plans with the concentration camps (and the SS efforts on the Eastern front).
The evidence was known from Barbarossa and possibly earlier. However it was intelligence information from various forms of spying. No country releases that where the information gives a link to source. Which is why Coventry needed to build a new Cathedral after the war – to protect Enigma.
The Allies knew that there was no way to affect the Nazis extermination efforts. Perhaps you’d like to suggest realistically what they could have done – rather than just being a mindless critic pushing idiotic ‘but what abouts..’.
Have you even read the damn Mandates? Summary..
Migration en-mass was in direct violation of the League of Nations mandate, and the subsequent short lived UN replacement(s).
So please justify why bringing a fuck load of Jewish migrants was of benefit to the native people.
Almost all of of those ancestral families of migrants had last lived in the mandate area somewhere between the Assyrian deportations and the exodus during the Crusader states. The native people were those who hadn't left. Many if not most of the native people were descendants of the original Jewish and Samaritan states.
I'm pretty sure that very few of the migrants that the bloody British allowed in had any similar history and attachments with the mandate lands. I don’t really think that some largely meaningless ritualistic religious waffling over centuries without much actual action really counts.
Anyway I'd love to hear your half-arsed fluffing of how jewish migration during the British mandate of Palestine brought any lasting benefit to the native people. It would be entertaining.
All I can see is that the Israeli settlers and religious Jewry are continuing to kill 'native people' in large numbers, appear to be trying to starve them to death, induce plagues, and to dispossess unlawfully their property. I can't see any 'benefit' in that to the native peoples of Palestine.
Questioning the "moral compass" of another is not a reasonable debate tactic.
It only leads to the conclusion that the issue is one in which a party has come to a conclusion that precludes civility in discourse about it, unless there is agreement.
So is avoiding the points being raised. It isn't like you're bringing up anything that isn't known. Most of your responses just look to me like straight avoidance rather than something worth debating. I have been responding to each of those in counter point. But it is getting tedious watching you avoid what I think are the central issues.
Raising refutes to my arguments that increasingly smell of simple propaganda slogans (rather than something you have thought about yourself) then it does pull into question your interest in debating this topic in good faith.
If I wanted to read simple propaganda, then I'd just continue to read almost any Israeli English language news. Thye are full of that platitude tripe. Apart from possibly Haaretz.
If you parse them as racist trash, then increasingly they look like something that Goebbels would use to justify actions that enable extermination policies. Virtually none of them report what is actually happening inside Gaza, like the current range of endemic water borne diseases, the starvation, the targeting of civilian infrastructure, snipers shooting kids and elderly.
It is exactly the same when you look at the news about the West Bank.
In effect what I am asking you is why you think that the current and past strategies of the IDF and the British and Israeli government towards the native people of the Palestinian mandate was justifiable – on any moral, legal, or even real-politik grounds.
I can't see any. What is evident is that you probably cannot either.
What I see, as I have pointed out long before this current conflict, is that ultimately the Israeli policies since 1948 lead inevitably to one of few possible outcomes. Effectively the genocidal attacks of the Warsaw ghetto. Or the pathetic uberman racism of Israel running a even worse apartheid slave economy. Or Israel will try to force an medieval ethnic cleansing of their relatives who stayed.
None of those are acceptable. All of them will have been directly caused by the actions of the League of Nations and the UN. That is the mechanism that should be forced to a more equitable solution. Probably dissolve the security council veto as a starter.
I think you should look at your method of debating
First you claimed
(my italic bold)
I point out
At Wannsee there was a plan, the camps were known of long before 1945.
Rather than admit the point, that this was a known before 1945.
You find a way to launch a tirade.
Yes the internment and or labour camps in the east became extermination camps after Wannsee.
So I guess
was not fact based.
I was just fact checking you, not asking for your assessment of my moral compass for doing so.
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"Problem with the act of genocide is that is only really provable after the fact". lprent
As SPC points out, that wasn't true for the Holocaust.
In the case of the Holocaust, not too dissimilar to today, If people didn't know, it was because they didn't want to know.
Then as now, ignoring the reality of a genocide is very convenient if you want to avoid having to do anything about it.
Sure disruption of transit to labour camps as well as an escape route out of Europe were viable options even in war time.
There was a more egregious lack of will with the Rwanda case. There was an effort in Sudan (Vietnam ended the one in Kampuchea inspired by the Chinese cultural revolution).
The parallel here you might be searching for is, how to get food aid and medical equipment/supplies to Palestinian civilians (to prevent what Lancet warned about some time ago – war leading to a famine and disease aftermath)?
We could not do it, it would require co-operation with others.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/10/israel-appears-to-be-in-breach-of-icj-orders-on-gaza-senior-un-official-says
https://www.nrc.no/news/2024/september/israels-siege-now-blocks-83-of-food-aid-reaching-gaza-new-data-reveals/
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c77x05l5ze4o
At the moment, incitement is such as this
They claim this includes seeing civilians in North Gaza as the enemy and destroying the sources of water, food and energy in the region
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-01-03/ty-article/.premium/israeli-lawmakers-call-on-military-to-destroy-food-water-and-power-sources-in-gaza/00000194-2884-d9c2-a79e-2bc47b360000
The problem is Biden is no Obama, he at least supported UNSC Res 2334 in Dec 2016.
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"Thus far, the leadership in Israeli hasn’t clearly stated an intent to commit genocide." lprent
Maybe you are just not aware.
Can't help but be reminded of the time you weren't aware Pokeno had a supermarket, when a quick google search revealed that Pokeno did indeed have a supermarket.
Just as a quick google search will reveal many statements of intent to commit genocide made by Israeli leadership.
https://thestandard.org.nz/climate-commission-hope-versus-nltp-reality/#comment-1788820
The reality of genocide is so awful, who wouldn't want to deny or ignore evidence of the reality of it?
*[ Isaiah 60:18:."nations kingdoms that do not serve Jerusalem will be destroyed and perish” J.]
*[Samuel 15:3: “Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.”]
Now I could put up the links to these 500+ evidence of intent to commit genocide in Gaza, but of course it would trip the site's automatic spam filter for javomg too many links
I have already left out most of the links from the genocidal statements of intent made by Israeli leaders above for this very reason, but if you doubt the veracity of the quotes you can always google them..
I could go on, and continue to cut and paste lots more of these quotes and all the URL links to these statements of genocidal intent,, and all the verbatim reports and recordings of these Israeli leaders' declaring, their own words, their intent to commit genocide,, quotes cited by media outlets and by jurists and in their own press releases, maybe, just maybe, somehow, possibly, this could all be dismissed as 'propaganda' i.e. deliberately fabricated lies to make it look like these Israeli leaders intend to commit genocide, when they really don't..
But I doubt it.
Confusing the eternity of God with an eternal Israel must be embarrassing for any Rabbi in the synagogue BN of Likud goes to.
And his week day teachers, the sun's existence (enabling life on the planet) is a finite one.
As to warrants for incitement, Cabinet Ministers first.
Near the bottom of this long page.
https://www.hrw.org/report/2024/11/14/hopeless-starving-and-besieged/israels-forced-displacement-palestinians-gaza
Hi SPC, thank you for the link you supplied to the HRW document “Hopeless, Starving, and Besieged” which goes into depth examining the warnings that Israel gave to Palestinians to leave, or evacuate, certain areas; the shortness of notice, the confusing and often contradictory nature of these warnings to evacuate, the consequence and implementation of these orders to evacuate, including detailed reports of those obeying the Israeli evacuation orders to leave their homes being attacked on the roads and in the Israeli designated 'safe areas' they were ordered to go to. The destruction of housing and private and public property and infrastructure the deliberate destruction of agricultural land, bakeries, flour mills and other means of sustaining human life in those areas and other areas of Gaza generally.
In light of all this, do you still contend SPC that because the IDF issue warnings to leave certain areas before attacking them, that giving warnings is not consistent with committing the crime of genocide?
Is this still your contention?
Yes.
But since then, there has been a refusal to allow a return to housing and or deliberation of permanent clearance of housing from some areas.
While there is no official plan to place anyone else in these areas, it is still a forced population removal.
This leads to other claims, still short of genocide, about what this can be called.
The article linked to does not assert this is genocide of itself yet.
See the Haaretz article above. It seems to confirm claims in the HRW article of an intent of permanent "forced displacement".
The claim that civilians seeking to return to their housing in such areas are to be seen as the enemy, is incitement to another war crime.
Militarism is a sad joke. Why the US kills so many of it's own, start by looking at the military, it's place in society. A poor to non-existence mental health system. Economic depravity.
I made a short submission today, as follows, on David Seymours TOW bill. Little to do with the TOW, but more about claims of Maori Privilege which underpin his philosophy.
I have heard David Seymour and others who publicly support this Bill, such as Don Brash, Hobsons Choice, Tax payers union, talk about "Maori Privilege" as a reason to revisit the Treaty of Waitangi. I think any detailed study of privilege in New Zealand would reveal that privilege, power and influence sits alongside wealth. Those with the highest concentration of wealth enjoy a higher concentration of power, influence and privilege. I think any detailed study will show that wealth and privilege is concentrated, disproportionately, with older/old pakeha males. Should the promoters of this Bill want to seriously address unequal privilege in this country the place to start is the (unequal) distribution of wealth. A good place to begin is the introduction of a comprehensive Capital Gains Tax.
nice one.
It will be a collective sigh of relief for all parties except for ACT when it is voted down and killed off dead in the next couple of months.
Then we can all get back to focusing on the ruination this government is making of our society, environment, and economy.
The real threat looming is the C of C being part of an international agenda to make foreign investors sovereign, rather than nation state.
The next level to the fast-tracking legislation to diminish nation state rules based processes.
That'd go down well, not, with Winston Firsts traditional voter base of conservative nationalist and new voter base of anti global conspiracists
100% SPC.
As they cost less than a packet of smokes, there is not much of a cost barrier.
https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/12/31/vaping-kits-to-be-made-free-for-smokers-to-help-them-quit/
I appreciate the links to other sites in the right hand column, but it seems that our news, and more especially political comment, is becoming more and more fragmented.
I saw an article recently that referred to an old post by David Farrar on using "Free Speech" as a vehicle for attacking human rights generally, legitimising strong political views – I think it was referred to in a recent post by a left commentator, but I cannot remember who or when – it covered recent activity regarding a "Human Rights" appointment to make objections to government policy more difficult to get action on – can anyone remember such an article? – I think it was in the last two weeks.