Peter Ellis… an injustice on him? An injustice on our nation? A witch hunt? How would The Standard audience have approached these accusations, the trials, the everything back in the early mid-90's?
Our society suffers a lack of men in ece and elsewhere – is it any wonder? No it isn't…. reaping and sowing ….
I remember TV interviews with some of the mothers who had levelled the allegations against Peter Ellis. To put it bluntly, they were bitches who were out to get Ellis come hell or high water. Lack of evidence didn't bother them. It seemed to me the kids were mere putty in their hands and repeated what their Mums essentially told them. They destroyed an innocent man's life and no doubt are responsible for shortening it. I would like to see them named and shamed.
But what got into them to do that? It seems to me group-think. And people who mouth platitudes about fairness and rightness but are basically amoral, but ready to roll on a wave of 'hysteria' as Pat puts it. It is interesting that burlesque performers in NZ just lately have had to complain about people in the audience bringing under-age children to the performances, though they are R16 rated, down from R18 apparently, but it appears some have taken it to mean that any old thing can be lampooned in front of the children. They tone down their show, can't be as risque as they would, because children aren't able to understand the content.
These are the same mindless people who are anti-vaxxers, would vote for Trump, even though they say they are Christian, and have plenty of his misdemeanours to overlook.
The emotional response to anything, has to be tempered and controlled, so a reasoned decision can be made. Some people cannot be trusted to run their response to anything past their own mind control.
Absolutely. It was a global thing too. Children were being separated from their parents in the UK ,because the authorities held the kids were being abused…with rectal damage being the evidence. Turns out the kids had constipation, and the "abuse" kept happening even when the" pedophile" parents were absent
There was an unshakeable mind set that kids never lied about this stuff, that all men were rapists and pedophiliac satanic cults were widespread. How many families were ripped apart because of this madness. "A City Possessed" by Lynley Hood is a masterpiece and should be required reading for media studies, social workers, hell, high school students.
Perhaps then we'd be developing a bit of critical thinking to set against the endless media "outrage" campaigns
have never read the book but can recall reading some transcripts of the 'interviews' that were published and the recall the fact that 5 women were also originally accused …..a disgraceful witch hunt that should have been remedied decades ago and all involved censured
That's correct. After exhaustive questioning they were released without charges being laid. I also remember them being categorical about Ellis' innocence. The words I recall being said is that it was "all a complete nonsense". My recollection is those women couldn't get jobs as kindy teachers after that affair.
Yep. I guess they were the latter-day boomers who had everything handed to them on a platter and were able to buy homes with State Advance loans at very low rates of interest. They developed a sense of misplaced superiority on the back of their good luck.
It was also the era where Enid Blytons books were banned and a whole generation missed out on her wonderfully imaginative stories. That was a bad thing apparently. Noddy was banned because he was supposed to be – to quote terminology of the day – a homosexual. OMG that's terrible they said to one another. Did it ever occur to them that children don't think like adults and they wouldn't have known what a homosexual was if they fell over one? It was complete bollocks anyway.
That was the background that allowed this crazy stuff to prosper which, in this case, caused a decent young man to spend seven years in prison for crimes he never committed.
Because in only one case was pretty much the totality of the evidence thoroughly documented as having been distilled from a myriad of stories actively encouraged from young children.
as opposed to Assange (two clear statements from the women and the facts put forward by Assange's UK legal team).
No idea what Moz thinks Corbyn's been accused of. I'm only familiar with accusations that Labour has done fuckall about antisemitism within its ranks, despite numerous complaints from a variety of levels of party membership.
"Imaginary barrows"? Like those giraffes under the basement and that murdered child at the Civic Creche? Like those absurd allegations that Jeremy Corbyn is an "antisemite"? Like that bizarre Soviet-style campaign against the man who published evidence of U.S. soldiers murdering civilians in Iraq?
You should stop bringing that up. It is more than mischievous of you and you will lose any cred you have built up. Some of the cynics might keep you as a pet, but you aim to be a respected commenter and critic I think.
It is more than mischievous of you and you will lose any cred you have built up.
Sorry, you're a bit obscure here, Mr Shark. What was "mischievous" in what I wrote?
Some of the cynics might keep you as a pet,
Hmmm. Interesting thought, that. Think I might run away if McFlock was my owner.
but you aim to be a respected commenter and critic I think.
Well, some people out there respect moi, but there are some I have yet to win over, such as the esteemed thinker Leighton Smith…
“Morrissey from Northcote Point, you’re a N-N-NUTCASE!!!! Go away and DON”T bother me again!!!! Go and get a job! The world is made up of some STRA-A-A-A-A-ANGE people! Strewth!”
I thoroughly recommend 'A City Possessed' by Lynley Hood.
Amongst the disturbing reading is the main complainant's mother was involved in an 'intimate relationship' with the head investigating officer.
When evidence is as heavily redacted as the children's testimony was, it becomes highly dodgy.
Peter Ellis has not changed his stance and at the height of the witch hunt, his concern was for the children. When confronted with their allegations, he said 'if they believe these things happened to them, what help are they getting now?'
I think his lawyer Rob Harrison who has defended him throughout I think, is to be commended. Funded by ? I don't imagine that Ellis would have much funds.
Other MPs think the caucus needs to look at itself more closely. Electorate MPs are hearing party members are angry with the way the 2017 election ended. Members knocked on doors, donated, and eventually delivered National a crushing victory in the 2017 election, only for party leaders to squander it in negotiations with NZ First.
To make matters worse, party grandees looking to save face suggested they’d never really wanted to go with NZ First anyway.
What struck me was the massive amount of political capital raised within the electorate through hours spent driving between venues and actually engaging with locals. Local Party members clearly did a huge amount to ensure 'their' girl made it to Wellington and was supported when she got there.
Sadly, Wellington was a toxic battleground, and the other thing that stood out from the book is that today we are still struggling to make progress on some of the issues Waring and other female MPs from both sides of the house were raising back then.
One issue was abortion, and the other was better support for families living with disability.
…delivered National a crushing victory in the 2017 election…
Er, parties that win a crushing victory in an election become the government. Still a very high level of delusion and denial among Nat members, by the look of it.
what a joke – those naughty young people. so young, so young – protesting as young people, so young. ffs most are over 20 – check out the thousands arriving today – young? I don't think so. The framing is stupid and won't work – it's up there with the foreshore and seabed bullshit.
Not saying you're wrong. I expect the protest to pull an attendance that is pan-generational. Yet hard to argue against the perception that niece & uncle are stuck in a generational stand-off, eh?
" The Treaty process is no longer fit for purpose, if it ever was. "
Same as the United States Constitution. Basing laws on documents 100 years old is a stupid idea. Laws, politics and expected outcomes need to move with the times
John S It has slipped your attention that Maori have insisted that te Tiriti is a living document and needs to be viewed and negotiated in those terms,
The US constitution is a pretty enlightened piece of work in fact. That contemporary politicians choose not to live up to enlightenment principles is a problem of society at large – corrupt leaders are not supposed to be tolerated, the demos is supposed to rise and oust them if their colleagues lack the mettle.
So you think dodging the issue is the best way to deal with it?? You really believe that an uncle and his niece refusing to reach agreement for four long years and holding the nation to ransom is a non-issue?? Jeez, what planet you come from?
Dennis, if you think an uncle and his niece refusing to reach agreement is the crux of the matter, then it must be declared that you know so very little of said matter.
The reason for SOUL's being is to bring the issue into the lime light. Therefore it is not being dodged.
We all know the origin of the problem. Focus ought to be shifting to the solution. The generational stand-off is obviously preventing the solution. Has been doing so for four years! What part of that is so hard for you to understand??
Huh. I'm about as non-Maori as you can get. Expertise & track record in achieving consensus isn't sufficient in this situation, so you'd be better off nominating a Maori with that eh?
Assuming you want a solution that is. You could be one of those people who think protesting forever is a lot more fun than solving problems.
you are just extrapolating to cause fear and anguish for others – why generate race hatred when it isn't there now? Maybe it is there, underneath all the bullshit the hard dirty truth sits like a malevolent eye of sauron
Utopianism? Not many left doing that, even in the Greens. Realpolitik prevails. Peacemaking would be their primary motivation, I presume. Non-violent conflict resolution is a Green Charter principle.
"Earlier this year though, Fletchers did indicate its willingness to consider any serious offer to buy the 33 hectares in dispute. For the government, buying it back would be chicken feed. In dollar terms, the site has been valued by Auckland Council at $35.7 million for the land, and $36 million all up." http://werewolf.co.nz/2019/07/gordon-campbell-on-the-ihumatao-dispute/
No reason the Greens ought not to lobby the govt on this basis. Feed those chickens, as Gordon suggests. Make the problem go away. Too many other big problems for this govt to focus on.
Yeah, I get all that. Coalition faces a big negotiating challenge. Has to create win/win all around the table. Willie & the local MP ought to focus on how to get both niece & uncle what they want, and if their conversations today don't have that focus, they're wasting time.
Me, I’m waiting for Winston to take a position. Even if the Labour Maori caucus agrees a resolution based on local negotiations succeeding, the govt needs him to endorse it.
Its a small iwi , not one with dozens of marae. Im sure they have spent many days of meetings over the years in discussions involving the whole iwi over this. Its seems a few are against the majority consensus. It happens but most iwi dont have the Green party using the issue as a political tool
I see their relationship as key – since they lead the two parties involved in the lack of consensus. It is unusual for family members to be politically divided in this particular way. If niece and uncle had been able to agree, I doubt they'd have spent the past four years as leaders of the opposed factions.
I respect their respective principled positions, of course. But the two Labour MPs have to try forging a consensus position by breaking that four-year long process log-jam. If they can't, it's up to the minister (Mahuta), and if she can’t the PM and/or Winston will have to have a go.
You are reducing a situation involving more than one iwi for a start to a personal relationship. I guess that's simpler to have an opinion on.
Kelvin Davis is the responsible minister by portfolio. However, Jackson and Henare have local connections and Mahuta is a conduit into Tainui who have a strong interest.
"This little iwi getting so much redress if the land is returned would mean large iwi would be in line to get so much more also seek the return of their land"
There's nothing realpolitick about neoliberalism – it simply doesn't work. It's a splendid vehicle for corruption but worse than useless for service delivery. Pragmatism of any kind requires measures that work, neoliberalism doesn't qualify.
If you're really keen……. a NZ citizen dollar that when spent on participating NZ owned and operating businesses, who are part of business associations that rate, grade and hold to account standards in their respective industries (with oversite by political party parliament to that), helping to elect such association representatives in the third of parliament seats that is allocated to the citizen dollar, would go an awful long way to replacing the rorting with value driven business lobbying, thus removing the neo from liberalism/conservatism & going a long way to taming that problem you mentioned, & ultimately bring markets more up to the level of the intelligence of modern technology that is omnipresent in daily life.
That wouldn't be a bad policy if they were to head down that track.
What's better… land in the hands of dispassionate people whose goal is to see a profit in 5 years or land in the hands of people who are interested in community and what it might achieve across generations.
Even better than that he has regurgitated the George Bush statement from 2000 on the "soft bigotry of low education" that Bush used in a speech to the NAACP that marked the launching of the No Child Left Behind (NCLB) Act.
The phrase tried to blame the difference of various racial groups on "standardised tests" solely on teacher expectations whilst ignoring the structural inequities within schools and society as well as ignoring the racial bias evident in the examinations themselves.
The term was quickly taken up by white supremacists groups and is thrown around whenever someone makes any link to inequity in society being related to inequity in education.
Either Simon is as ignorant as he looks or the use of the phrase is the start of a push even further towards the right.
There's been an unhealthy trope on the right of borrowing things from the US instead of determining what is causing problems for local constituencies. Because the US is already much further to the right than NZ such borrowings tend to be extreme in our context, and of course they fail to resolve local issues because they have no relevance to them.
It was funny – but there was something darker going on that I found sobering. Simon's stance on the response to CC is that 'something must be done', but it must not cost business anything. Using taxes as price signals was 'lazy'. Instead he was pushing 'research' (presumably taxpayer funded) to come up with magic techno-fixes which would be made available to industry. The whole existing landscape of wealth, power and dominance would be maintained as we dynamically worked through this mere blip in the road.
So it's pretty clear what the RW response will be to any climate crisis if/when one actually bites – protection for the few, and austerity for the many.
The best thing anyone can do for our housing market is to let it fall.
Endless subsidies are now seen as a right by landlords when they were originally meant to allow low income earners a choice between HNZ/council housing and private market.
Two billion a year and counting has only made the situation worse. NZ doesn't have a lack of housing it has a lack of AFFORDABLE housing. Subsidies have driven up prices and required middle income earners to become beneficiaries (Accommodation Supplement) to afford rents.
I happen to know a few people homeless (all disabled and in need of specific housing to meet their needs). I'd rather people live in caravans etc until the price is driven down by loss of demand then perpetual funding of this bubble. We need to seriously consider facilitating trailer park type living and give money to disabled to buy their own place. That's where the money should be going.
I happen to know a few people homeless (all disabled and in need of specific housing to meet their needs).
And how many Kiwibuild houses meet the Lifemark standard? How many of the new state houses? https://www.lifemark.co.nz/
I'm not so sure about trailerparks A. The few Peter and I occasionally stay at (we much prefer wild parking) that have a number of permanents can become miserable little toxic Peyton Places. You only need two or three forming a clique and they can make life unbearable for those who just want to live quietly. I know of one elderly caravan dweller who was targeted by the self appointed camp commandants who decided her practice of feeding the birds around her site was an offense to all. These were other caravan /motorhome dwellers with nothing better to do than be arseholes. Folks living cheek by jowl and having to share ablution blocks and kitchens….? Crucible living.
Agree with letting it fall, but prefer mass investment in state housing rather than trailer parks etc.
The banks and successive governments have allowed our entire economy to be redirected towards bank profits via mortgage credit, with no concern for the social cost.
So, his job was to put criminals behind bars of prisons run by Serco? He wasn’t working for the UN fighting for Human Rights or anything like that?
I suppose putting the baddies behind bars is ‘helping’ the goodies, to make them feel safer in their over-valued homes. What I have read of the rhetoric of the opening speeches so far is predictable BAU and another pathetic pitch to middle NZ. It’ll be interesting to see if any blue-green flavours or vapours will be wafting through the conference or more religious-conservative stuff; after all, they are in Christchurch (cf. 15 March).
Still sharp sometimes… "Politically speaking, the government cannot hope to continue to play the role of Pontius Pilate in this dispute. After all, the Crown was the agent of the original chain of events that eventually delivered this land into Fletchers’ hands. Leadership would start from a recognition of the basic historical injustice."
"Moreover, a Crown re-purchase from Fletchers would not necessarily become a millstone, much as the government may fear landing themselves in the middle of another Ngapuhi-style dispute. There would also be fears within government of setting a precedent for intervening in any business development that hasn’t been validated by a prior Treaty settlement. Tough. Them’s the breaks if New Zealand is serious about regarding the Treaty as a living document."
So I'm tempted to predict that the PM will return from her Pacific sojourn intent on resolving the issue. Hands off didn't work. Urgency will be paramount if the protest leader's prediction of upward of ten thousand arriving this weekend comes true. Dithering in the face of such numbers would cost this govt the next election. Why? It would create the perception that they are no better than National.
The Maori land was given by the government to the Wallace family to farm – which they did for over a 100 years. Fletchers then bought the land when it was recntly zoned for housing.
Equating the idea of the government buying the land, and establishing a permanent reserve on some of the land (given its historic significance) and otherwise matching the housing deal offered iwi, with a threat to the presence of Europeans speaks to a sense of threatened privilege of Trumpian proportions.
Prime Minister has opened her mouth to form a trap where Fletchers can now demand pretty much any price they want, valued at whatever keeps this out of a massive High Court judicial review which pulls apart this moronic political intervention.
Top work from the Greens for propping up Fletchers, throwing their own Minister Sage under a bus, and stopping houses being built in a suburb that needs it most.
Jackson and Sage will dish out a deal in a big fat envelope, and the traveling white-guilt factory will move on to another town.
It will consign the iwi to no house built anywhere near their marae for multiple decades, while inside that marae the young ones shaft their elders again and again and again.
I see no point in jumping too quickly to such conclusions. I do understand that the signal sent will be alarming many though. People will just have to adapt to whichever changing circumstances get produced by any resolution produced. I'd advise caution in regard to extrapolating from this case. Just as likely to be unique as one of a bunch…
Nothing is unique in law, because it all comes down to precedent. Everyone except the protesting bunch is now working to keep this out of the High Court. I hope you can see that.
All you have to do is put yourself in the shoes of two entities: Crown Law, and Fletcher Residential's legal team. What are their strategies? It's not hard to plot them out.
The first is the Foreshore and Seabed bill, and protest, and political reaction. PM held firm, took the political consequences, achieved the policy outcomes that enabled the stability of New Zealand and, still did 3 terms of good for us.
The second is the entire northland iwi settlement process, and many other incomplete land claims, compared to the other major tribes. On this case now rests the full reputation of Andrew Little. All it takes is Marama Davidson and a busload of Usual Suspects and you can fuck up anything you like, and ensure nothing happens that will benefit Maori for generations.
And then there's all the Crown-iwi housing partnerships that will never start or develop now. I don't have any shares in Fletchers and don't work for them, but they built more state houses that housed generations of young New Zealanders than any other company. There's no more Maori partnerships after this unless there’s a miracle that pulls the government out of immolating. Which company will now trust Maori to have a mandate for any housing deal with a commercial partner? And the silence coming from Tainui and Kingitanga to rescue their own sub tribe is deafening.
Every unique instance stands on a mountain of history.
All good points, but. I'm impressed by the demeanour of Pania, and the thousands she has pulled in to support her group. So despite my inclination toward the deal being respected, and the seemingly ephemeral basis of the protest, I'm feeling the need to reserve judgment and give consensus a chance.
If it was just Marama & co being idealistic, I'd be critical. I get the impression there's more to the situation than that.
1. The government was narrowly re-elected in 2005 (lost the majority of Maori seats and have only now reclaimed them).
2. Iwi are usually only involved in land deals if iwi land is involved (this case is not a common one).
3. And arguing that the young generation of Maori need to get out of the way for their own good because their old people/and Labour government know what's best for their future/the country as a whole …would not just hurt Labour with young Maori voters and re-energise the Maori Party it would also alienate other youth (given government for the baby boomer policy).
And then there's all the Crown-iwi housing partnerships that will never start or develop now. … There's no more Maori partnerships after this unless there’s a miracle that pulls the government out of immolating. Which company will now trust Maori to have a mandate for any housing deal with a commercial partner?
Preaching, TINA to the regime for any other course leads to chaos and ruin. The rule of heaven, or hell. A block to any development is the end of all development mantra is religious in its zeal.
Buying directly off Fletchers by the Crown is the only way Ardern can get out of this now, because it's the only way of getting the land for anything any version of Maori are seeking.
The process is the same as any other white grievance in a rich suburb:
BANANA: Build Anything Nowhere Anywhere Near Anything, and pay the rich what they want.
Fletchers are going to want out of this…esp after their performance over the past few years they cant afford another losing proposition nor can they afford to piss the gov off too much ….a deal will be done and one that saves face all round
Fletchers can wait…and watch their costs rise and projected returns disappear and risk being left with an almost impossible site…not to mention any inside running on future contracts
That wasn't caused by Ihumatao, and in fact Fletcher Residential are doing fine. Used to be New Zealand's largest locally-owned company. They're fighting to come back, and rebuilding internally.
Never suggested it was caused by Ihumatao…but a 2.7 billion wealth loss and a renegotiated debt covenant dont come without strings….and a 29% share price drop in the past 12 months sure as hell aint encouraging for the peace of mind for those holding the strings.
You misunderstand the scale of Ihumatao in commercial terms.
Since 2018 Fletchers have sold plenty of assets off, and regathered their banking lines. Fletcher Construction got them into some strife, mostly through the Christchurch Justice job, Precinct Commercial Bay and Sky City Convention Centre jobs. But they are in full recovery now.
Fletcher Residential are making bank all over the place. Ihumatao is a very small affair to them.
My guess is Fletchers won't play it like that – they'll want to preserve goodwill & their reputation. A modest profit on their investment is likely & appropriate. They've been signalling they're willing to sell at a reasonable price for quite a while. Media reports have made that clear.
But that is secondary. Primary is Maori agreement on how to use the land. The family divide has to be bridged over first, and since they have a track record of four years of failure to do that, someone decisive must break that impasse. That's why Pania appealed to the PM.
No, Fletchers are primary as they have title. Mandated Maori already have agreement on how the land will be used. Fletchers can sit back, let the iwi fight it out in court inevitably, and make sure they get paid well.
There's no good will left on this site now. At minimum any housing deal with unstable Maori iwi will attract massively increased risk premiums for the following:
Most of the land won’t go to iwi. It will mostly go into the existing public reserve with iwi co-governance. The major reason is that the government won’t want this to become a precedent for other treaty settlements, especially Ngapuhi.
The iwi (actually a hapu) will get the 25% of the land promised under the Fletchers deal.
"We found, ah, ah, insufficient evidence, ah, ah, of the President's culpability."
The desperate DNC masterminds—Jerrold ("Pearl Harbor") Nadler, Adam Scheff, Charles Schumer, and the rest of that sorry bunch—made a major mistake when they put all their rotten eggs in the basket wielded by poor old muddle-headed Mueller. Thanks to their incompetence, we have five and a half more years of Trump to endure.
It’s high time we stopped getting wealthy shuffling our addresses around. It serves so few of us well. Gutting my rental house and installing Euro appliances, Indonesian teak floors and Home & Garden bathrooms is adding false value. It’s still just a place to live.
I win financially, I can up the rent to more than cover my renovation loan repayments. But does New Zealand win? I fear not.
Genuinely adding value is not as simple as making my rental worth twice as much a week. My flash flat adds next to no value to our nation beyond a couple no longer having to wash their dishes by hand and my fat wallet. It’s shallow value.
Few of the 9 million are desperately searching for a comfortable affordable home in Sweden, they turn their efforts to Volvo, Swedish Match, ABB, Ericsson, Husqvarna, Saab, H&M, Alfa Laval, Electrolux, Ikea, Sandvik, Hasselblad, Koenigsegg, Scania instead.
Shafting each other over a place to live is a crap way to make our country better.
I'd hope they apply the same discipline to Cabinet papers and briefings, as Prime Minister Helen Clark and Heather Simpson did. No paragraph ever started with 'however', for example.
It's all arbitrary. You do what God says, well Mogg anyway. I'd heard some of the speech from Johnson with the excitement of how they're going to make Britain the greatest place on the planet. Mogg's clearly shown his priorities and is onto one of the most critical issues facing the nation. Other stuff might take a while but at least they're going to write proper like.
Such a load of BS from Johnson and ilk. He is all screwed up with the excitement of being determined to make a decision, which nobody else has been able to do. Leave the EU with a hard Brexit.
As a well educated chap he would know The Charge of the Light Brigade – glory and death showing the valour and the colours and the stupidity of Britain. And the story behind it, of a botched message, or a deliberately misunderstood one. But NZ showed how you can bamboozle most of the people all of the time.
Death or glory is Toad's watchword as he battles (with the help of his supporters) to make Toad Hall great again in Wind in the Willows. Toad is so reminiscent of Boorish. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErxdKKurIDg
Wonder if it would not be best if the All Blacks lost everything this year (traitor!).
Yes, some recent successes get all the accolades, hyperbole and wall to wall coverage, and while for the most part it is not the players fault, i wonder if it is not sometimes making heroes out of all other things being equal, 'also rans', when it comes to the way NZ rugby has been run & governed.
I wonder if behind it, NZ rugby is in abit of a pathetic state to the strong almost shared birth right culture that it provided and enjoyed in society. Although for many folks it was the radio for the most part, the Great Black Caps cricket world cup, that was the type of value in sport that rugby near use to provide to NZ annually. Although the wheels started to fall off gradually when the new model was introduced, it was still mostly obvious to everyone the strong health of the NZ rugby culture in a way that was a societal resource & recreation like no where else in the world.
And that's one thing that was so great about the NZ Black Caps cricket world cup run, there was an unmistakable NZ way/reflection in the approach and play of the game. And despite the relatively thin coverage, and for a notable part, skeptical media coverage, the NZ public knew it and responded in kind. Win or lose, New Zealand was winning and won.
It may be impossible to get the old All Blacks postion in world sport back now, but it's still possible to get the NZ game of rugby back. But it can not be obliterated at the top and grown on the ground at the same time i'd say.
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As pressure on it grows, the livestock industry’s approach to the transition to Net Zero is increasingly being compared to that of fossil fuel interests. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / Getty ImagesTL;DR: Here’s the top five news items of note in climate news for Aotearoa-NZ this week, and a discussion above ...
The New Zealand Herald reports – Stats NZ has offered a voluntary redundancy scheme to all of its workers as a way to give staff some control over their “future” amidst widespread job losses in the public sector. In an update to staff this morning, seen by the Herald, Statistics New Zealand ...
On Werewolf/Scoop, I usually do two long form political columns a week. From now on, there will be an extra column each week about music and movies. But first, some late-breaking political events:The rise in unemployment numbers for the March quarter was bigger than expected – and especially sharp ...
David Farrar writes – The Herald reports: TVNZ says it is dealing with about 50 formal complaints over its coverage of the latest 1News-Verian political poll, with some viewers – as well as the Prime Minister and a former senior Labour MP – critical of the tone of the 6pm report. ...
Muriel Newman writes – When Meridian Energy was seeking resource consents for a West Coast hydro dam proposal in 2010, local Maori “strenuously” objected, claiming their mana was inextricably linked to ‘their’ river and could be damaged. After receiving a financial payment from the company, however, the Ngai Tahu ...
Alwyn Poole writes – “An SEP,’ he said, ‘is something that we can’t see, or don’t see, or our brain doesn’t let us see, because we think that it’s somebody else’s problem. That’s what SEP means. Somebody Else’s Problem. The brain just edits it out, it’s like a ...
Our trust in our political institutions is fast eroding, according to a Maxim Institute discussion paper, Shaky Foundations: Why our democracy needs trust. The paper – released today – raises concerns about declining trust in New Zealand’s political institutions and democratic processes, and the role that the overuse of Parliamentary urgency ...
This article was prepared for publication yesterday. More ministerial announcements have been posted on the government’s official website since it was written. We will report on these later today …. Buzz from the BeehiveThere we were, thinking the environment is in trouble, when along came Jones. Shane Jones. ...
New Zealand now has the fourth most depressed construction sector in the world behind China, Qatar and Hong Kong. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: These are the six things that stood out to me in news and commentary on Aotearoa-NZ’s political economy at 8:46am on Thursday, May 2:The Lead: ...
Hi,I am just going to state something very obvious: American police are fucking crazy.That was a photo gracing the New York Times this morning, showing New York City police “entering Columbia University last night after receiving a request from the school.”Apparently in America, protesting the deaths of tens of thousands ...
Winston Peters’ much anticipated foreign policy speech last night was a work of two halves. Much of it was a standard “boilerplate” Foreign Ministry overview of the state of the world. There was some hardening up of rhetoric with talk of “benign” becoming “malign” and old truths giving way to ...
Graham Adams assesses the fallout of the Cass Review — The press release last Thursday from the UN Special Rapporteur on violence against women and girls didn’t make the mainstream news in New Zealand but it really should have. The startling title of Reem Alsalem’s statement — “Implementation of ‘Cass ...
This open-for-business, under-new-management cliché-pockmarked government of Christopher Luxon is not the thing of beauty he imagines it to be. It is not the powerful expression of the will of the people that he asserts it to be. It is not a soaring eagle, it is a malodorous vulture. This newest poll should make ...
The latest labour market statistics, showing a rise in unemployment. There are now 134,000 unemployed - 14,000 more than when the National government took office. Which is I guess what happens when the Reserve Bank causes a recession in an effort to Keep Wages Low. The previous government saw a ...
Three opinion polls have been released in the last two days, all showing that the new government is failing to hold their popular support. The usual honeymoon experienced during the first year of a first term government is entirely absent. The political mood is still gloomy and discontented, mainly due ...
National's Finance Minister once met a poor person.A scornful interview with National's finance guru who knows next to nothing about economics or people.There might have been something a bit familiar if that was the headline I’d gone with today. It would of course have been in tribute to the article ...
Rob MacCulloch writes – Throughout the pandemic, the new Vice-Chancellor-of-Otago-University-on-$629,000 per annum-Can-you-believe-it-and-Former-Finance-Minister Grant Robertson repeated the mantra over and over that he saved “lives and livelihoods”.As we update how this claim is faring over the course of time, the facts are increasingly speaking differently. NZ ...
Chris Trotter writes – IT’S A COMMONPLACE of political speeches, especially those delivered in acknowledgement of electoral victory: “We’ll govern for all New Zealanders.” On the face of it, the pledge is a strange one. Why would any political leader govern in ways that advantaged the huge ...
Bryce Edwards writes – The list of former National Party Ministers being given plum and important roles got longer this week with the appointment of former Deputy Prime Minister Paula Bennett as the chair of Pharmac. The Christopher Luxon-led Government has now made key appointments to Bill ...
TL;DR: These are the six things that stood out to me in news and commentary on Aotearoa-NZ’s political economy at 10:06am on Wednesday, May 1:The Lead: Business confidence fell across the board in April, falling in some areas to levels last seen during the lockdowns because of a collapse in ...
Over the past 36 hours, Christopher Luxon has been dong his best to portray the centre-right’s plummeting poll numbers as a mark of virtue. Allegedly, the negative verdicts are the result of hard economic times, and of a government bravely set out on a perilous rescue mission from which not ...
Auckland Transport have started rolling out new HOP card readers around the network and over the next three months, all of them on buses, at train stations and ferry wharves will be replaced. The change itself is not that remarkable, with the new readers looking similar to what is already ...
Completed reads for April: The Difference Engine, by William Gibson and Bruce Sterling Carnival of Saints, by George Herman The Snow Spider, by Jenny Nimmo Emlyn’s Moon, by Jenny Nimmo The Chestnut Soldier, by Jenny Nimmo Death Comes As the End, by Agatha Christie Lord of the Flies, by ...
On February 14, 2023 we announced our Rebuttal Update Project. This included an ask for feedback about the added "At a glance" section in the updated basic rebuttal versions. This weekly blog post series highlights this new section of one of the updated basic rebuttal versions and serves as a ...
Have a story to share about St Paul’s, but today just picturesPopular novels written at this desk by a young man who managed to bootstrap himself out of father’s imprisonment and his own young life in a workhouse Read more ...
The list of former National Party Ministers being given plum and important roles got longer this week with the appointment of former Deputy Prime Minister Paula Bennett as the chair of Pharmac. The Christopher Luxon-led Government has now made key appointments to Bill English, Simon Bridges, Steven Joyce, Roger Sowry, ...
Newsroom has a story today about National's (fortunately failed) effort to disestablish the newly-created Inspector-General of Defence. The creation of this agency was the key recommendation of the Inquiry into Operation Burnham, and a vital means of restoring credibility and social licence to an agency which had been caught lying ...
Holding On To The Present:The moment a political movement arises that attacks the whole idea of social progress, and announces its intention to wind back the hands of History’s clock, then democracy, along with its unwritten rules, is in mortal danger.IT’S A COMMONPLACE of political speeches, especially those delivered in ...
Stuck In The Middle With You:As Christopher Luxon feels the hot breath of Act’s and NZ First’s extremists on the back of his neck and, as he reckons with the damage their policies are already inflicting upon a country he’s described as “fragile”, is there not some merit in reaching out ...
The unpopular coalition government is currently rushing to repeal section 7AA of the Oranga Tamariki Act. The clause is Oranga Tamariki's Treaty clause, and was inserted after its systematic stealing of Māori children became a public scandal and resulted in physical resistance to further abductions. The clause created clear obligations ...
Buzz from the Beehive The government’s official website – which Point of Order monitors daily – not for the first time has nothing much to say today about political happenings that are grabbing media headlines. It makes no mention of the latest 1News-Verian poll, for example. This shows National down ...
It Takes A Train To Cry:Surely, there is nothing lonelier in all this world than the long wail of a distant steam locomotive on a cold Winter’s night.AS A CHILD, I would lie awake in my grandfather’s house and listen to the traffic. The big wooden house was only a ...
Packing A Punch: The election of the present government, including in its ranks politicians dedicated to reasserting the rights of the legislature in shaping and determining the future of Māori and Pakeha in New Zealand, should have alerted the judiciary – including its anomalous appendage, the Waitangi Tribunal – that its ...
Dead Woman Walking: New Zealand’s media industry had been moving steadily towards disaster for all the years Melissa Lee had been National’s media and communications policy spokesperson, and yet, when the crisis finally broke, on her watch, she had nothing intelligent to offer. Christopher Luxon is a patient man - but he’s not ...
Chris Trotter writes – New Zealand politics is remarkably easy-going: dangerously so, one might even say. With the notable exception of John Key’s flat ruling-out of the NZ First Party in 2008, all parties capable of clearing MMP’s five-percent threshold, or winning one or more electorate seats, tend ...
Bryce Edwards writes – Polling shows that Wellington Mayor Tory Whanau has the lowest approval rating of any mayor in the country. Siting at -12 per cent, the proportion of constituents who disapprove of her performance outweighs those who give her the thumbs up. This negative rating is ...
Luxon will no doubt put a brave face on it, but there is no escaping the pressure this latest poll will put on him and the government. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: These are the six things that stood out to me in news and commentary on Aotearoa-NZ’s political ...
This is a re-post from The Climate Brink by Andrew Dessler In the wake of any unusual weather event, someone inevitably asks, “Did climate change cause this?” In the most literal sense, that answer is almost always no. Climate change is never the sole cause of hurricanes, heat waves, droughts, or ...
Something odd happened yesterday, and I’d love to know if there’s more to it. If there was something which preempted what happened, or if it was simply a throwaway line in response to a journalist.Yesterday David Seymour was asked at a press conference what the process would be if the ...
Hi,From time to time, I want to bring Webworm into the real world. We did it last year with the Jurassic Park event in New Zealand — which was a lot of fun!And so on Saturday May 11th, in Los Angeles, I am hosting a lil’ Webworm pop-up! I’ve been ...
Education Minister Erica Standford yesterday unveiled a fundamental reform of the way our school pupils are taught. She would not exactly say so, but she is all but dismantling the so-called “inquiry” “feel good” method of teaching, which has ruled in our classrooms since a major review of the New ...
Exactly where are we seriously going with this government and its policies? That is, apart from following what may as well be a Truss-Lite approach on the purported economic “plan“, and Victorian-era regression when it comes to social policy.Oh it’ll work this time of course, we’re basically assured, “the ...
Hey Uncle Dave, When the Poms joined the EEC, I wasn't one of those defeatists who said, Well, that’s it for the dairy job. And I was right, eh? The Chinese can’t get enough of our milk powder and eventually, the Poms came to their senses and backed up the ute ...
Polling shows that Wellington Mayor Tory Whanau has the lowest approval rating of any mayor in the country. Siting at -12 per cent, the proportion of constituents who disapprove of her performance outweighs those who give her the thumbs up. This negative rating is higher than for any other mayor ...
Buzz from the Beehive Pharmac has been given a financial transfusion and a new chair to oversee its spending in the pharmaceutical business. Associate Health Minister David Seymour described the funding for Pharmac as “its largest ever budget of $6.294 billion over four years, fixing a $1.774 billion fiscal cliff”. ...
Bryce Edwards writes – Many criticisms are being made of the Government’s Fast Track Approvals Bill, including by this writer. But as with everything in politics, every story has two sides, and both deserve attention. It’s important to understand what the Government is trying to achieve and its ...
TL;DR: Here’s my top 10 ‘pick ‘n’ mix of links to news, analysis and opinion articles as of 10:10am on Monday, April 29:Scoop: The children's ward at Rotorua Hospital will be missing a third of its beds as winter hits because Te Whatu Ora halted an upgrade partway through to ...
span class=”dropcap”>As hideous as David Seymour can be, it is worth keeping in mind occasionally that there are even worse political figures (and regimes) out there. Iran for instance, is about to execute the country’s leading hip hop musician Toomaj Salehi, for writing and performing raps that “corrupt” the nation’s ...
Yesterday marked 10 years since the first electric train carried passengers in Auckland so it’s a good time to look back at it and the impact it has had. A brief history The first proposals for rail electrification in Auckland came in the 1920’s alongside the plans for earlier ...
Right now, in Aotearoa-NZ, our ‘animal spirits’ are darkening towards a winter of discontent, thanks at least partly to a chorus of negative comments and actions from the Government Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: These are the six things that stood out to me in news and commentary on ...
You make people evil to punish the paststuck inside a sequel with a rotating castThe following photos haven’t been generated with AI, or modified in any way. They are flesh and blood, human beings. On the left is Galatea Young, a young mum, and her daughter Fiadh who has Angelman ...
The Government is again adding to New Zealand’s growing unemployment, this time cutting jobs at the agencies responsible for urban development and growing much needed housing stock. ...
With Minister Karen Chhour indicating in the House today that she either doesn’t know or care about the frontline cuts she’s making to Oranga Tamariki, we risk seeing more and more of our children falling through the cracks. ...
The Labour Party is saddened to learn of the death of Sir Robert Martin, a globally renowned disability advocate who led the way for disability rights both in New Zealand and internationally. ...
Labour is calling for the Government to urgently rethink its coalition commitment to restart live animal exports, Labour animal welfare spokesperson Rachel Boyack said. ...
Today’s Financial Stability Report has once again highlighted that poverty and deep inequality are political choices - and this Government is choosing to make them worse. ...
The Green Party is calling on the Government to do more for our households in most need as unemployment rises and the cost of living crisis endures. ...
Unemployment is on the rise and it’s only going to get worse under this Government, Labour finance spokesperson Barbara Edmonds said. Stats NZ figures show the unemployment rate grew to 4.3 percent in the March quarter from 4 percent in the December quarter. “This is the second rise in unemployment ...
The New Zealand Labour Party welcomes the entering into force of the European Union and New Zealand free trade agreement. This agreement opens the door for a huge increase in trade opportunities with a market of 450 million people who are high value discerning consumers of New Zealand goods and ...
The National-led Government continues its fiscal jiggery pokery with its Pharmac announcement today, Labour Health spokesperson Ayesha Verrall says. “The government has increased Pharmac funding but conceded it will only make minimal increases in access to medicine”, said Ayesha Verrall “This is far from the bold promises made to fund ...
This afternoon’s interim Waitangi Tribunal report must be taken seriously as it affects our most vulnerable children, Labour children’s spokesperson Willow-Jean Prime. ...
Te Pāti Māori are demanding the New Zealand Government support an international independent investigation into mass graves that have been uncovered at two hospitals on the Gaza strip, following weeks of assault by Israeli troops. Among the 392 bodies that have been recovered, are children and elderly civilians. Many of ...
Our two-tiered system for veterans’ support is out of step with our closest partners, and all parties in Parliament should work together to fix it, Labour veterans’ affairs spokesperson Greg O’Connor said. ...
Stripping two Ministers of their portfolios just six months into the job shows Christopher Luxon’s management style is lacking, Labour Leader Chris Hipkins said. ...
Tonight’s court decision to overturn the summons of the Children’s Minister has enabled the Crown to continue making decisions about Māori without evidence, says Te Pāti Māori spokesperson for Children, Mariameno Kapa-Kingi. “The judicial system has this evening told the nation that this government can do whatever they want when ...
It appears Nicola Willis is about to pull the rug out from under the feet of local communities still dealing with the aftermath of last year’s severe weather, and local councils relying on funding to build back from these disasters. ...
The Government is making short-sighted changes to the Resource Management Act (RMA) that will take away environmental protection in favour of short-term profits, Labour’s environment spokesperson Rachel Brooking said today. ...
Labour welcomes the release of the report into the North Island weather events and looks forward to working with the Government to ensure that New Zealand is as prepared as it can be for the next natural disaster. ...
The Labour Party has called for the New Zealand Government to recognise Palestine, as a material step towards progressing the two-State solution needed to achieve a lasting peace in the region. ...
Some of our country’s most important work, stopping the sexual exploitation of children and violent extremism could go along with staff on the frontline at ports and airports. ...
The Government’s Fast Track Approvals Bill will give projects such as new coal mines a ‘get out of jail free’ card to wreak havoc on the environment, Labour Leader Chris Hipkins said today. ...
The government's decision to reintroduce Three Strikes is a destructive and ineffective piece of law-making that will only exacerbate an inherently biased and racist criminal justice system, said Te Pāti Māori Justice Spokesperson, Tākuta Ferris, today. During the time Three Strikes was in place in Aotearoa, Māori and Pasifika received ...
Cuts to frontline hospital staff are not only a broken election promise, it shows the reckless tax cuts have well and truly hit the frontline of the health system, says Labour Health spokesperson Ayesha Verrall. ...
The Green Party has joined the call for public submissions on the fast-track legislation to be extended after the Ombudsman forced the Government to release the list of organisations invited to apply just hours before submissions close. ...
New Zealand’s good work at reducing climate emissions for three years in a row will be undone by the National government’s lack of ambition and scrapping programmes that were making a difference, Labour Party climate spokesperson Megan Woods said today. ...
More essential jobs could be on the chopping block, this time Ministry of Education staff on the school lunches team are set to find out whether they're in line to lose their jobs. ...
Te Pāti Māori is disgusted at the confirmation that hundreds are set to lose their jobs at Oranga Tamariki, and the disestablishment of the Treaty Response Unit. “This act of absolute carelessness and out of touch decision making is committing tamariki to state abuse.” Said Te Pāti Māori Oranga Tamariki ...
The Government is trying to bring in a law that will allow Ministers to cut corners and kill off native species, Labour environment spokesperson Rachel Brooking said. ...
Cancelling urgently needed new Cook Strait ferries and hiking the cost of public transport for many Kiwis so that National can announce the prospect of another tunnel for Wellington is not making good choices, Labour Transport Spokesperson Tangi Utikere said. ...
A laundry list of additional costs for Tāmaki Makarau Auckland shows the Minister for the city is not delivering for the people who live there, says Labour Auckland Issues spokesperson Shanan Halbert. ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters discussed the need for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza, and enhanced cooperation in the Pacific with German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock during her first official visit to New Zealand today. "New Zealand and Germany enjoy shared interests and values, including the rule of law, democracy, respect for the international system ...
The Minister Responsible for RMA Reform, Chris Bishop today released his decision on four recommendations referred to him by the Western Bay of Plenty District Council, opening the door to housing growth in the area. The Council’s Plan Change 92 allows more homes to be built in existing and new ...
Thank you, John McKinnon and the New Zealand China Council for the invitation to speak to you today. Thank you too, all members of the China Council. Your effort has played an essential role in helping to build, shape, and grow a balanced and resilient relationship between our two ...
The Government is modernising insurance law to better protect Kiwis and provide security in the event of a disaster, Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Andrew Bayly announced today. “These reforms are long overdue. New Zealand’s insurance law is complicated and dated, some of which is more than 100 years old. ...
The coalition Government is refreshing its approach to supporting pay equity claims as time-limited funding for the Pay Equity Taskforce comes to an end, Public Service Minister Nicola Willis says. “Three years ago, the then-government introduced changes to the Equal Pay Act to support pay equity bargaining. The changes were ...
Structured literacy will change the way New Zealand children learn to read - improving achievement and setting students up for success, Education Minister Erica Stanford says. “Being able to read and write is a fundamental life skill that too many young people are missing out on. Recent data shows that ...
Trade Minister Todd McClay says Canada’s refusal to comply in full with a CPTPP trade dispute ruling in our favour over dairy trade is cynical and New Zealand has no intention of backing down. Mr McClay said he has asked for urgent legal advice in respect of our ‘next move’ ...
The rights of our children and young people will be enhanced by changes the coalition Government will make to strengthen oversight of the Oranga Tamariki system, including restoring a single Children’s Commissioner. “The Government is committed to delivering better public services that care for our most at-risk young people and ...
The Government is making it easier for minor changes to be made to a building consent so building a home is easier and more affordable, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says. “The coalition Government is focused on making it easier and cheaper to build homes so we can ...
New Zealand lost a true legend when internationally renowned disability advocate Sir Robert Martin (KNZM) passed away at his home in Whanganui last night, Disabilities Issues Minister Louise Upston says. “Our Government’s thoughts are with his wife Lynda, family and community, those he has worked with, the disability community in ...
Good evening – Before discussing the challenges and opportunities facing New Zealand’s foreign policy, we’d like to first acknowledge the New Zealand Institute of International Affairs. You have contributed to debates about New Zealand foreign policy over a long period of time, and we thank you for hosting us. ...
From today, passengers travelling internationally from Auckland Airport will be able to keep laptops and liquids in their carry-on bags for security screening thanks to new technology, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “Creating a more efficient and seamless travel experience is important for holidaymakers and businesses, enabling faster movement through ...
People with an interest in the health of Northland’s marine ecosystems are invited to a public meeting to discuss how to deal with kina barrens, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones will lead the discussion, which will take place on Friday, 10 May, at Awanui Hotel in ...
Kiwi exporters are $100 million better off today with the NZ EU FTA entering into force says Trade Minister Todd McClay. “This is all part of our plan to grow the economy. New Zealand's prosperity depends on international trade, making up 60 per cent of the country’s total economic activity. ...
There are heartening signs that the extractive sector is once again becoming an attractive prospect for investors and a source of economic prosperity for New Zealand, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. “The beginnings of a resurgence in extractive industries are apparent in media reports of the sector in the past ...
The return of the historic Ō-Rākau battle site to the descendants of those who fought there moved one step closer today with the first reading of Te Pire mō Ō-Rākau, Te Pae o Maumahara / The Ō-Rākau Remembrance Bill. The Bill will entrust the 9.7-hectare battle site, five kilometres west ...
Energy Minister Simeon Brown has announced 25 new high-speed EV charging hubs along key routes between major urban centres and outlined the Government’s plan to supercharge New Zealand’s EV infrastructure. The hubs will each have several chargers and be capable of charging at least four – and up to 10 ...
The coalition Government will not proceed with the previous Government’s plans to regulate residential property managers, Housing Minister Chris Bishop says. “I have written to the Chairperson of the Social Services and Community Committee to inform him that the Government does not intend to support the Residential Property Managers Bill ...
The Government has announced an independent review into the disability support system funded by the Ministry of Disabled People – Whaikaha. Disability Issues Minister Louise Upston says the review will look at what can be done to strengthen the long-term sustainability of Disability Support Services to provide disabled people and ...
Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith has attended the Universal Periodic Review in Geneva and outlined the Government’s plan to restore law and order. “Speaking to the United Nations Human Rights Council provided us with an opportunity to present New Zealand’s human rights progress, priorities, and challenges, while responding to issues and ...
The Government and Rotorua Lakes Council are committed to working closely together to end the use of contracted emergency housing motels in Rotorua. Associate Minister of Housing (Social Housing) Tama Potaka says the Government remains committed to ending the long-term use of contracted emergency housing motels in Rotorua by the ...
Trade Minister Todd McClay heads overseas today for high-level trade talks in the Gulf region, and a key OECD meeting in Paris. Mr McClay will travel to Riyadh to meet with counterparts from Saudi Arabia and the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC). “New Zealand’s goods and services exports to the Gulf region ...
Education Minister Erica Stanford has outlined six education priorities to deliver a world-leading education system that sets Kiwi kids up for future success. “I’m putting ambition, achievement and outcomes at the heart of our education system. I want every child to be inspired and engaged in their learning so they ...
The new NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) App is a secure ‘one stop shop’ to provide the services drivers need, Transport Minister Simeon Brown and Digitising Government Minister Judith Collins say. “The NZTA App will enable an easier way for Kiwis to pay for Vehicle Registration and Road User Charges (RUC). ...
Whānau with tamariki growing up in emergency housing motels will be prioritised for social housing starting this week, says Associate Housing Minister Tama Potaka. “Giving these whānau a better opportunity to build healthy stable lives for themselves and future generations is an essential part of the Government’s goal of reducing ...
Racing Minister Winston Peters has paid tribute to an icon of the industry with the recent passing of Dave O’Sullivan (OBE). “Our sympathies are with the O’Sullivan family with the sad news of Dave O’Sullivan’s recent passing,” Mr Peters says. “His contribution to racing, initially as a jockey and then ...
Assalaamu alaikum, greetings to you all. Eid Mubarak, everyone! I want to extend my warmest wishes to you and everyone celebrating this joyous occasion. It is a pleasure to be here. I have enjoyed Eid celebrations at Parliament before, but this is my first time joining you as the Minister ...
Associate Health Minister David Seymour has announced Pharmac’s largest ever budget of $6.294 billion over four years, fixing a $1.774 billion fiscal cliff. “Access to medicines is a crucial part of many Kiwis’ lives. We’ve committed to a budget allocation of $1.774 billion over four years so Kiwis are ...
Hon Paula Bennett has been appointed as member and chair of the Pharmac board, Associate Health Minister David Seymour announced today. "Pharmac is a critical part of New Zealand's health system and plays a significant role in ensuring that Kiwis have the best possible access to medicines,” says Mr Seymour. ...
Hundreds of New Zealand families affected by Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder (FASD) will benefit from a new Government focus on prevention and treatment, says Health Minister Dr Shane Reti. “We know FASD is a leading cause of preventable intellectual and neurodevelopmental disability in New Zealand,” Dr Reti says. “Every day, ...
Regional Development Minister Shane Jones today attended the official opening of Kaikohe’s new $14.7 million sports complex. “The completion of the Kaikohe Multi Sports Complex is a fantastic achievement for the Far North,” Mr Jones says. “This facility not only fulfils a long-held dream for local athletes, but also creates ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters’ engagements in Türkiye this week underlined the importance of diplomacy to meet growing global challenges. “Returning to the Gallipoli Peninsula to represent New Zealand at Anzac commemorations was a sombre reminder of the critical importance of diplomacy for de-escalating conflicts and easing tensions,” Mr Peters ...
Ambassador Millar, Burgemeester, Vandepitte, Excellencies, military representatives, distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen – good morning and welcome to this sacred Anzac Day dawn service. It is an honour to be here on behalf of the Government and people of New Zealand at Buttes New British Cemetery, Polygon Wood – a deeply ...
Distinguished guests - It is an honour to return once again to this site which, as the resting place for so many of our war-dead, has become a sacred place for generations of New Zealanders. Our presence here and at the other special spaces of Gallipoli is made ...
Mai ia tawhiti pamamao, te moana nui a Kiwa, kua tae whakaiti mai matou, ki to koutou papa whenua. No koutou te tapuwae, no matou te tapuwae, kua honoa pumautia. Ko nga toa kua hinga nei, o te Waipounamu, o te Ika a Maui, he okioki tahi me o ...
Paul Goldsmith will take on responsibility for the Media and Communications portfolio, while Louise Upston will pick up the Disability Issues portfolio, Prime Minister Christopher Luxon announced today. “Our Government is relentlessly focused on getting New Zealand back on track. As issues change in prominence, I plan to adjust Ministerial ...
Recreational catch limits will be reduced in areas of Fiordland and the Chatham Islands to help keep those fisheries healthy and sustainable, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones says. The lower recreational daily catch limits for a range of finfish and shellfish species caught in the Fiordland Marine Area and ...
Energy Minister Simeon Brown has welcomed an important milestone in New Zealand’s hydrogen future, with the opening of the country’s first network of hydrogen refuelling stations in Wiri. “I want to congratulate the team at Hiringa Energy and its partners K one W one (K1W1), Mitsui & Co New Zealand ...
The coalition Government is delivering on its commitment to improve resource management laws and give greater certainty to consent applicants, with a Bill to amend the Resource Management Act (RMA) expected to be introduced to Parliament next month. RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop has today outlined the first RMA Amendment ...
Overseas models for regulating the oil and gas sector, including their decommissioning regimes, are being carefully scrutinised as a potential template for New Zealand’s own sector, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. The Coalition Government is focused on rebuilding investor confidence in New Zealand’s energy sector as it looks to strengthen ...
By Stephen Wright and Stefan Armbruster of BenarNews Fiji’s ranking in a global press freedom index has jumped into the top tier of countries with free or mostly free media after its government last year repealed a draconian law that threatened journalists with prison for doing their jobs. Fiji’s improvement ...
We might be in Invercargill but all anyone can talk about is Gore. Specifically, Salford Street. That’s where three-year-old Lachlan Jones lived, south of the centre of town, between the A&P Showgrounds and the Mataura River. Roughly 1.2 km away from the single level home he lived in with his ...
MONDAY I lined up the latest round of civil servants from city hall against the wall, and signalled for the firing squad to drop their rifles. I stepped up onto a wooden crate to look at the office workers in the eye. But that didn’t feel right, so I found ...
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Conversation with Peter Wadhams
https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/114542552/former-civic-creche-worker-peter-ellis-last-bid-before-he-cancer-takes-him
Peter Ellis… an injustice on him? An injustice on our nation? A witch hunt? How would The Standard audience have approached these accusations, the trials, the everything back in the early mid-90's?
Our society suffers a lack of men in ece and elsewhere – is it any wonder? No it isn't…. reaping and sowing ….
This case needs re-doing.
a case study in mass hysteria
I remember TV interviews with some of the mothers who had levelled the allegations against Peter Ellis. To put it bluntly, they were bitches who were out to get Ellis come hell or high water. Lack of evidence didn't bother them. It seemed to me the kids were mere putty in their hands and repeated what their Mums essentially told them. They destroyed an innocent man's life and no doubt are responsible for shortening it. I would like to see them named and shamed.
So would I !
But what got into them to do that? It seems to me group-think. And people who mouth platitudes about fairness and rightness but are basically amoral, but ready to roll on a wave of 'hysteria' as Pat puts it. It is interesting that burlesque performers in NZ just lately have had to complain about people in the audience bringing under-age children to the performances, though they are R16 rated, down from R18 apparently, but it appears some have taken it to mean that any old thing can be lampooned in front of the children. They tone down their show, can't be as risque as they would, because children aren't able to understand the content.
These are the same mindless people who are anti-vaxxers, would vote for Trump, even though they say they are Christian, and have plenty of his misdemeanours to overlook.
The emotional response to anything, has to be tempered and controlled, so a reasoned decision can be made. Some people cannot be trusted to run their response to anything past their own mind control.
Absolutely. It was a global thing too. Children were being separated from their parents in the UK ,because the authorities held the kids were being abused…with rectal damage being the evidence. Turns out the kids had constipation, and the "abuse" kept happening even when the" pedophile" parents were absent
There was an unshakeable mind set that kids never lied about this stuff, that all men were rapists and pedophiliac satanic cults were widespread. How many families were ripped apart because of this madness. "A City Possessed" by Lynley Hood is a masterpiece and should be required reading for media studies, social workers, hell, high school students.
Perhaps then we'd be developing a bit of critical thinking to set against the endless media "outrage" campaigns
have never read the book but can recall reading some transcripts of the 'interviews' that were published and the recall the fact that 5 women were also originally accused …..a disgraceful witch hunt that should have been remedied decades ago and all involved censured
That's correct. After exhaustive questioning they were released without charges being laid. I also remember them being categorical about Ellis' innocence. The words I recall being said is that it was "all a complete nonsense". My recollection is those women couldn't get jobs as kindy teachers after that affair.
Yep. I guess they were the latter-day boomers who had everything handed to them on a platter and were able to buy homes with State Advance loans at very low rates of interest. They developed a sense of misplaced superiority on the back of their good luck.
It was also the era where Enid Blytons books were banned and a whole generation missed out on her wonderfully imaginative stories. That was a bad thing apparently. Noddy was banned because he was supposed to be – to quote terminology of the day – a homosexual. OMG that's terrible they said to one another. Did it ever occur to them that children don't think like adults and they wouldn't have known what a homosexual was if they fell over one? It was complete bollocks anyway.
That was the background that allowed this crazy stuff to prosper which, in this case, caused a decent young man to spend seven years in prison for crimes he never committed.
I feel for the guy. Entire story sounds batshit crazy.
We should be used to it. Have you followed the similarly rigorous witch hunts against Assange and Corbyn?
Is there nothing you won't use to push your imaginary barrows?
Shameless.
How does Morrissey suggesting similarities in treatment between Ellis, Corbyn and Assanage become pushing an imaginary barrow….in your head?
Because in only one case was pretty much the totality of the evidence thoroughly documented as having been distilled from a myriad of stories actively encouraged from young children.
as opposed to Assange (two clear statements from the women and the facts put forward by Assange's UK legal team).
No idea what Moz thinks Corbyn's been accused of. I'm only familiar with accusations that Labour has done fuckall about antisemitism within its ranks, despite numerous complaints from a variety of levels of party membership.
No idea what Moz thinks Corbyn's been accused of.
Your cynicism almost eclipses your dishonesty.
https://twitter.com/thebirmingham6/status/1100781844839178251
"Imaginary barrows"? Like those giraffes under the basement and that murdered child at the Civic Creche? Like those absurd allegations that Jeremy Corbyn is an "antisemite"? Like that bizarre Soviet-style campaign against the man who published evidence of U.S. soldiers murdering civilians in Iraq?
What's "imaginary" about those barrows, exactly?
Only one of those things was based purely on the invention of children, though.
The other two had some reference to actual events (whether those events were then misinterpreted to suit the narrative or not).
Morrissey
You should stop bringing that up. It is more than mischievous of you and you will lose any cred you have built up. Some of the cynics might keep you as a pet, but you aim to be a respected commenter and critic I think.
You should stop bringing that up.
Bringing what up?
It is more than mischievous of you and you will lose any cred you have built up.
Sorry, you're a bit obscure here, Mr Shark. What was "mischievous" in what I wrote?
Some of the cynics might keep you as a pet,
Hmmm. Interesting thought, that. Think I might run away if McFlock was my owner.
but you aim to be a respected commenter and critic I think.
Well, some people out there respect moi, but there are some I have yet to win over, such as the esteemed thinker Leighton Smith…
I thoroughly recommend 'A City Possessed' by Lynley Hood.
Amongst the disturbing reading is the main complainant's mother was involved in an 'intimate relationship' with the head investigating officer.
When evidence is as heavily redacted as the children's testimony was, it becomes highly dodgy.
Peter Ellis has not changed his stance and at the height of the witch hunt, his concern was for the children. When confronted with their allegations, he said 'if they believe these things happened to them, what help are they getting now?'
A certain mayor of a certain city, how she can look at herself in the mirror I do not know.
I think his lawyer Rob Harrison who has defended him throughout I think, is to be commended. Funded by ? I don't imagine that Ellis would have much funds.
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/peter-ellis-diagnosed-terminal-cancer-he-seeks-last-appeal-against-child-sex-abuse-convictions
On Contact: UK alternative media with Kerry-Anne Mendoza
Interesting interviews with (anonymous) Nat MPs about their party's mindset: https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/114535570/simon-bridges-chance-to-reunify-national-party-after-a-bloody-year
I'd seriously recommend reading this…https://www.bwb.co.nz/books/marilyn-waring-political-years
What struck me was the massive amount of political capital raised within the electorate through hours spent driving between venues and actually engaging with locals. Local Party members clearly did a huge amount to ensure 'their' girl made it to Wellington and was supported when she got there.
Sadly, Wellington was a toxic battleground, and the other thing that stood out from the book is that today we are still struggling to make progress on some of the issues Waring and other female MPs from both sides of the house were raising back then.
One issue was abortion, and the other was better support for families living with disability.
Irony overload.
…delivered National a crushing victory in the 2017 election…
Er, parties that win a crushing victory in an election become the government. Still a very high level of delusion and denial among Nat members, by the look of it.
Yes its laugable .
Look at the other Labour Party in Australia and their 'crushing victory'
Labour 68 seats
Liberal 44 seats
Liberal National 23
National 10
The Liberals were the second biggest party and they too needed a coalition to become government
Duke…as I posted just after the Oz election
Australian Election-
Labor plus Greens 43.5% 68 seats
Coalition 41.8% 78 seats
Thank goodness for MMP in NZ.
Scomo didn't really win at all.
(I think it ended up 77-69 in the end because Labor ended up winning Macquarie. There must be 4 independents?)
what a joke – those naughty young people. so young, so young – protesting as young people, so young. ffs most are over 20 – check out the thousands arriving today – young? I don't think so. The framing is stupid and won't work – it's up there with the foreshore and seabed bullshit.
"As RNZ has noted, a generational divide exists between SOUL and the kaumatua from Te Kawerau a Maki and representatives of the Kiingitangi movement who have given Fletchers the green light to proceed." http://werewolf.co.nz/2019/07/gordon-campbell-on-the-ihumatao-dispute/
Not saying you're wrong. I expect the protest to pull an attendance that is pan-generational. Yet hard to argue against the perception that niece & uncle are stuck in a generational stand-off, eh?
imo it's a simplistic understanding – really just another argue from authority approach, like the outsiders coming in lines
Doesnt look like many from Ihumatao iwi waiting at the Council meeting
https://www.rnz.co.nz/assets/news_crops/84411/eight_col_council_meetimg.jpg?1564030382
Instead we have the white middle class supporters with Newton
your perspective is pretty narrow – may pay to wait and see what happens.
"Yet hard to argue against the perception that niece & uncle are stuck in a generational stand-off, eh?"
For the simpleton maybe, for those with more than a few functioning brain cells the notion is outrageous.
The SOUL movement is backed by hundreds and hundreds, and Te Kawerau a Maki is but one interested party.
The land was stolen ffs by that bastard Grey and his english forces and simply given to english settlers.
If there is no law that governs the return of this land to its rightful owners Jacinda needs to get her arse into gear and enact one.
The fact that the Waitangi Tribunal cannot make judgements on privately "owned" land is why Maori have had so little of it returned to them.
This. The Treaty process is no longer fit for purpose, if it ever was.
One of the right wing hacks today said JA still has her training wheels on. Well, this country still has its training wheels on.
We suck at this stuff.
" The Treaty process is no longer fit for purpose, if it ever was. "
Same as the United States Constitution. Basing laws on documents 100 years old is a stupid idea. Laws, politics and expected outcomes need to move with the times
John S It has slipped your attention that Maori have insisted that te Tiriti is a living document and needs to be viewed and negotiated in those terms,
The US constitution is a pretty enlightened piece of work in fact. That contemporary politicians choose not to live up to enlightenment principles is a problem of society at large – corrupt leaders are not supposed to be tolerated, the demos is supposed to rise and oust them if their colleagues lack the mettle.
So you think dodging the issue is the best way to deal with it?? You really believe that an uncle and his niece refusing to reach agreement for four long years and holding the nation to ransom is a non-issue?? Jeez, what planet you come from?
Dennis, if you think an uncle and his niece refusing to reach agreement is the crux of the matter, then it must be declared that you know so very little of said matter.
The reason for SOUL's being is to bring the issue into the lime light. Therefore it is not being dodged.
I recommend you read Chris Trotter's article
http://bowalleyroad.blogspot.com/2019/07/colonisation-in-action.html
We all know the origin of the problem. Focus ought to be shifting to the solution. The generational stand-off is obviously preventing the solution. Has been doing so for four years! What part of that is so hard for you to understand??
lol sounds like you should go there and broker the deal dennis lol
Huh. I'm about as non-Maori as you can get. Expertise & track record in achieving consensus isn't sufficient in this situation, so you'd be better off nominating a Maori with that eh?
Assuming you want a solution that is. You could be one of those people who think protesting forever is a lot more fun than solving problems.
Are the greens with their support of the ihimatao protests gunning for a Maori seat ,?
It wouldnt be a bad thing imho maybe labour should consider a very gentle pulling back from one or two Maori electorate.
you might want to look at previous Maori seat voting patterns to determine if thats a likely proposition
Yes. Greens have small support in Maori seats and low support in low income seats generally. Their base is well off urban areas mainly women.
xanthe, 6.2 Thanks, enjoyed that.
No, the Greens are just being consistent, doing what they have always done.
So its ot green policy for the government to buy private land to return to Maori?
you are just extrapolating to cause fear and anguish for others – why generate race hatred when it isn't there now? Maybe it is there, underneath all the bullshit the hard dirty truth sits like a malevolent eye of sauron
Na no angles from me . Just trying to understand where this protest is headed and what it's out comes might be and the ramifications of it .
It's my hobby.
get a mirror marty
lol
Utopianism? Not many left doing that, even in the Greens. Realpolitik prevails. Peacemaking would be their primary motivation, I presume. Non-violent conflict resolution is a Green Charter principle.
"Earlier this year though, Fletchers did indicate its willingness to consider any serious offer to buy the 33 hectares in dispute. For the government, buying it back would be chicken feed. In dollar terms, the site has been valued by Auckland Council at $35.7 million for the land, and $36 million all up." http://werewolf.co.nz/2019/07/gordon-campbell-on-the-ihumatao-dispute/
No reason the Greens ought not to lobby the govt on this basis. Feed those chickens, as Gordon suggests. Make the problem go away. Too many other big problems for this govt to focus on.
What about the houses for the iwi under the Fletcher plans.
Lots a green space for Auckland doesnt give them anything.
The cash amount is small but it would cause a huge financial headache in relativity payments for the large iwi who have settled previously.
There has been two top ups already last one being something like $500 mill.
This little iwi getting so much if the land is returned would mean large iwi would be in line to get so much more
Yeah, I get all that. Coalition faces a big negotiating challenge. Has to create win/win all around the table. Willie & the local MP ought to focus on how to get both niece & uncle what they want, and if their conversations today don't have that focus, they're wasting time.
Me, I’m waiting for Winston to take a position. Even if the Labour Maori caucus agrees a resolution based on local negotiations succeeding, the govt needs him to endorse it.
Niece and uncle?
Its a small iwi , not one with dozens of marae. Im sure they have spent many days of meetings over the years in discussions involving the whole iwi over this. Its seems a few are against the majority consensus. It happens but most iwi dont have the Green party using the issue as a political tool
Purely guess work on your part unless you've been privy to the discussions.
I see their relationship as key – since they lead the two parties involved in the lack of consensus. It is unusual for family members to be politically divided in this particular way. If niece and uncle had been able to agree, I doubt they'd have spent the past four years as leaders of the opposed factions.
I respect their respective principled positions, of course. But the two Labour MPs have to try forging a consensus position by breaking that four-year long process log-jam. If they can't, it's up to the minister (Mahuta), and if she can’t the PM and/or Winston will have to have a go.
You are reducing a situation involving more than one iwi for a start to a personal relationship. I guess that's simpler to have an opinion on.
Kelvin Davis is the responsible minister by portfolio. However, Jackson and Henare have local connections and Mahuta is a conduit into Tainui who have a strong interest.
Leadership normally is crucial in politics, so my reasoning is totally logical! And Wikipedia tells us Mahuta has the relevant portfolio: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixth_Labour_Government_of_New_Zealand#M%C4%81ori_Affairs
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You are in a dreamland. There will be no returning of private land confiscated during the land wars.
Does it build houses for the local iwi, which even if the owned the bare land would be $300k each to build.
Or do they all have tiny houses till that bubble bursts
The dissenters. Look likes only say 2 iwi members The others could be better described as Green party
https://www.rnz.co.nz/assets/news_crops/84411/eight_col_council_meetimg.jpg
So there's only 2 dissenters now… lol
There's nothing realpolitick about neoliberalism – it simply doesn't work. It's a splendid vehicle for corruption but worse than useless for service delivery. Pragmatism of any kind requires measures that work, neoliberalism doesn't qualify.
If you're really keen……. a NZ citizen dollar that when spent on participating NZ owned and operating businesses, who are part of business associations that rate, grade and hold to account standards in their respective industries (with oversite by political party parliament to that), helping to elect such association representatives in the third of parliament seats that is allocated to the citizen dollar, would go an awful long way to replacing the rorting with value driven business lobbying, thus removing the neo from liberalism/conservatism & going a long way to taming that problem you mentioned, & ultimately bring markets more up to the level of the intelligence of modern technology that is omnipresent in daily life.
That wouldn't be a bad policy if they were to head down that track.
What's better… land in the hands of dispassionate people whose goal is to see a profit in 5 years or land in the hands of people who are interested in community and what it might achieve across generations.
Am recovering from gales of laughter. simon is on The Nation touting his new message… 'it's all about you'.
Even better than that he has regurgitated the George Bush statement from 2000 on the "soft bigotry of low education" that Bush used in a speech to the NAACP that marked the launching of the No Child Left Behind (NCLB) Act.
The phrase tried to blame the difference of various racial groups on "standardised tests" solely on teacher expectations whilst ignoring the structural inequities within schools and society as well as ignoring the racial bias evident in the examinations themselves.
The term was quickly taken up by white supremacists groups and is thrown around whenever someone makes any link to inequity in society being related to inequity in education.
Either Simon is as ignorant as he looks or the use of the phrase is the start of a push even further towards the right.
There's been an unhealthy trope on the right of borrowing things from the US instead of determining what is causing problems for local constituencies. Because the US is already much further to the right than NZ such borrowings tend to be extreme in our context, and of course they fail to resolve local issues because they have no relevance to them.
Sorry. Soft bigotry of low expectations was the line stolen from Bush, not education. I was thinking of it's impact on education
It was funny – but there was something darker going on that I found sobering. Simon's stance on the response to CC is that 'something must be done', but it must not cost business anything. Using taxes as price signals was 'lazy'. Instead he was pushing 'research' (presumably taxpayer funded) to come up with magic techno-fixes which would be made available to industry. The whole existing landscape of wealth, power and dominance would be maintained as we dynamically worked through this mere blip in the road.
So it's pretty clear what the RW response will be to any climate crisis if/when one actually bites – protection for the few, and austerity for the many.
Heh, that would be research usually done by companies that had their R&D tax rebates nullified by Keys National crowd.
You can not take these Tories seriously, the inconsistencies and obvious polling dependant stance on any issue, defies logic.
His PR people have told Bridges that he personally isnt popular so cant be used as the central character in National advertising -like John Key was.
2nd choice was an anoymous 'You' as Spot the Dog is no longer with us ( last used by Telecom when their name was complete shit)
It's all about me Simon?! Wow, thanks man
Aka "It's all about me"!! Lol lol I agree Cinny, bloody funny.
An honest slogan for the selfish party.
The best thing anyone can do for our housing market is to let it fall.
Endless subsidies are now seen as a right by landlords when they were originally meant to allow low income earners a choice between HNZ/council housing and private market.
Two billion a year and counting has only made the situation worse. NZ doesn't have a lack of housing it has a lack of AFFORDABLE housing. Subsidies have driven up prices and required middle income earners to become beneficiaries (Accommodation Supplement) to afford rents.
I happen to know a few people homeless (all disabled and in need of specific housing to meet their needs). I'd rather people live in caravans etc until the price is driven down by loss of demand then perpetual funding of this bubble. We need to seriously consider facilitating trailer park type living and give money to disabled to buy their own place. That's where the money should be going.
I happen to know a few people homeless (all disabled and in need of specific housing to meet their needs).
And how many Kiwibuild houses meet the Lifemark standard? How many of the new state houses? https://www.lifemark.co.nz/
I'm not so sure about trailerparks A. The few Peter and I occasionally stay at (we much prefer wild parking) that have a number of permanents can become miserable little toxic Peyton Places. You only need two or three forming a clique and they can make life unbearable for those who just want to live quietly. I know of one elderly caravan dweller who was targeted by the self appointed camp commandants who decided her practice of feeding the birds around her site was an offense to all. These were other caravan /motorhome dwellers with nothing better to do than be arseholes. Folks living cheek by jowl and having to share ablution blocks and kitchens….? Crucible living.
Agree with letting it fall, but prefer mass investment in state housing rather than trailer parks etc.
The banks and successive governments have allowed our entire economy to be redirected towards bank profits via mortgage credit, with no concern for the social cost.
As a Crown prosecutor, how many people did he ‘help’?
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/114554275/simon-bridges-opens-national-conference
His job for the local prosecutors was the run of the mill criminal cases.
His wife introducing him and speech was an intriguing showing of her work as his media minder.
Ta
So, his job was to put criminals behind bars of prisons run by Serco? He wasn’t working for the UN fighting for Human Rights or anything like that?
I suppose putting the baddies behind bars is ‘helping’ the goodies, to make them feel safer in their over-valued homes. What I have read of the rhetoric of the opening speeches so far is predictable BAU and another pathetic pitch to middle NZ. It’ll be interesting to see if any blue-green flavours or vapours will be wafting through the conference or more religious-conservative stuff; after all, they are in Christchurch (cf. 15 March).
You deserve better!
Run of the mill sounds right. What an untalented little man.
Clap, clap.
https://www.twitter.com/NZNationalParty/status/1154878114045943808
I guess a 'bottom line' could be that row of bums on stage.
What a colourful bunch! Is that a standing ovation for Sir John?
"Our bottom line is you"
https://www.twitter.com/buttcleavage7/status/1099423508541657089
Ah, so Paula is still around and not in hiding. Do you know who she's wearing darling? Soimun looks like an Amani.
I thought actors and actorines were supposed to take their bows AFTER the pantomime
Still sharp sometimes… "Politically speaking, the government cannot hope to continue to play the role of Pontius Pilate in this dispute. After all, the Crown was the agent of the original chain of events that eventually delivered this land into Fletchers’ hands. Leadership would start from a recognition of the basic historical injustice."
"Moreover, a Crown re-purchase from Fletchers would not necessarily become a millstone, much as the government may fear landing themselves in the middle of another Ngapuhi-style dispute. There would also be fears within government of setting a precedent for intervening in any business development that hasn’t been validated by a prior Treaty settlement. Tough. Them’s the breaks if New Zealand is serious about regarding the Treaty as a living document."
http://werewolf.co.nz/2019/07/gordon-campbell-on-the-ihumatao-dispute/
So I'm tempted to predict that the PM will return from her Pacific sojourn intent on resolving the issue. Hands off didn't work. Urgency will be paramount if the protest leader's prediction of upward of ten thousand arriving this weekend comes true. Dithering in the face of such numbers would cost this govt the next election. Why? It would create the perception that they are no better than National.
Yes , the worlds problems can all be solved by just turning back the clock and 'europeans going back to where they came from'
The Maori land was given by the government to the Wallace family to farm – which they did for over a 100 years. Fletchers then bought the land when it was recntly zoned for housing.
Equating the idea of the government buying the land, and establishing a permanent reserve on some of the land (given its historic significance) and otherwise matching the housing deal offered iwi, with a threat to the presence of Europeans speaks to a sense of threatened privilege of Trumpian proportions.
Prime Minister has opened her mouth to form a trap where Fletchers can now demand pretty much any price they want, valued at whatever keeps this out of a massive High Court judicial review which pulls apart this moronic political intervention.
Top work from the Greens for propping up Fletchers, throwing their own Minister Sage under a bus, and stopping houses being built in a suburb that needs it most.
Jackson and Sage will dish out a deal in a big fat envelope, and the traveling white-guilt factory will move on to another town.
It will consign the iwi to no house built anywhere near their marae for multiple decades, while inside that marae the young ones shaft their elders again and again and again.
Gosh, I thought I was the cynical one. Let's hope for a better outcome, huh? If it pans out like that I'll be just as caustic as you…
Can you see any houses being built in Mangere now?
Or anywhere else in the country near Maori title?
I see no point in jumping too quickly to such conclusions. I do understand that the signal sent will be alarming many though. People will just have to adapt to whichever changing circumstances get produced by any resolution produced. I'd advise caution in regard to extrapolating from this case. Just as likely to be unique as one of a bunch…
Nothing is unique in law, because it all comes down to precedent. Everyone except the protesting bunch is now working to keep this out of the High Court. I hope you can see that.
All you have to do is put yourself in the shoes of two entities: Crown Law, and Fletcher Residential's legal team. What are their strategies? It's not hard to plot them out.
The first is the Foreshore and Seabed bill, and protest, and political reaction. PM held firm, took the political consequences, achieved the policy outcomes that enabled the stability of New Zealand and, still did 3 terms of good for us.
The second is the entire northland iwi settlement process, and many other incomplete land claims, compared to the other major tribes. On this case now rests the full reputation of Andrew Little. All it takes is Marama Davidson and a busload of Usual Suspects and you can fuck up anything you like, and ensure nothing happens that will benefit Maori for generations.
And then there's all the Crown-iwi housing partnerships that will never start or develop now. I don't have any shares in Fletchers and don't work for them, but they built more state houses that housed generations of young New Zealanders than any other company. There's no more Maori partnerships after this unless there’s a miracle that pulls the government out of immolating. Which company will now trust Maori to have a mandate for any housing deal with a commercial partner? And the silence coming from Tainui and Kingitanga to rescue their own sub tribe is deafening.
Every unique instance stands on a mountain of history.
All good points, but. I'm impressed by the demeanour of Pania, and the thousands she has pulled in to support her group. So despite my inclination toward the deal being respected, and the seemingly ephemeral basis of the protest, I'm feeling the need to reserve judgment and give consensus a chance.
If it was just Marama & co being idealistic, I'd be critical. I get the impression there's more to the situation than that.
You have calmer judgement than the PM, the two trusts, and the Council put together.
1. The government was narrowly re-elected in 2005 (lost the majority of Maori seats and have only now reclaimed them).
2. Iwi are usually only involved in land deals if iwi land is involved (this case is not a common one).
3. And arguing that the young generation of Maori need to get out of the way for their own good because their old people/and Labour government know what's best for
their future/the country as a whole …would not just hurt Labour with young Maori voters and re-energise the Maori Party it would also alienate other youth (given government for the baby boomer policy).Preaching, TINA to the regime for any other course leads to chaos and ruin. The rule of heaven, or hell. A block to any development is the end of all development mantra is religious in its zeal.
Doubt Fletchers are in a position to demand too much…what did they pay for the site?
Buying directly off Fletchers by the Crown is the only way Ardern can get out of this now, because it's the only way of getting the land for anything any version of Maori are seeking.
The process is the same as any other white grievance in a rich suburb:
BANANA: Build Anything Nowhere Anywhere Near Anything, and pay the rich what they want.
Fletchers are going to want out of this…esp after their performance over the past few years they cant afford another losing proposition nor can they afford to piss the gov off too much ….a deal will be done and one that saves face all round
There's more pressure on other parties now.
Fletchers can just wait and double their price after every foolish media release by the protesters.
Fletchers can wait…and watch their costs rise and projected returns disappear and risk being left with an almost impossible site…not to mention any inside running on future contracts
Oh sure there's pressure. They own their own supply chain, and the land, so there's no worries there. They have plenty of other blocks to get on with.
But there's now far more on the government, and Auckland Council, and the two trusts.
Im sure their bankers and shareholders will agree
Exactly. That's why Fletchers can pop their corks at mention of the name of Marama Davidson.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/101398374/fletcher-building-suffered-billions-in-wealth-loss
https://www.nzx.com/companies/FBU?q=fletchers
That wasn't caused by Ihumatao, and in fact Fletcher Residential are doing fine. Used to be New Zealand's largest locally-owned company. They're fighting to come back, and rebuilding internally.
Never suggested it was caused by Ihumatao…but a 2.7 billion wealth loss and a renegotiated debt covenant dont come without strings….and a 29% share price drop in the past 12 months sure as hell aint encouraging for the peace of mind for those holding the strings.
They cant afford Ihumatao
You misunderstand the scale of Ihumatao in commercial terms.
Since 2018 Fletchers have sold plenty of assets off, and regathered their banking lines. Fletcher Construction got them into some strife, mostly through the Christchurch Justice job, Precinct Commercial Bay and Sky City Convention Centre jobs. But they are in full recovery now.
Fletcher Residential are making bank all over the place. Ihumatao is a very small affair to them.
Best take off those rose tinted specs….Fletchers are still deep in the woods and cant afford any more failures.
My guess is Fletchers won't play it like that – they'll want to preserve goodwill & their reputation. A modest profit on their investment is likely & appropriate. They've been signalling they're willing to sell at a reasonable price for quite a while. Media reports have made that clear.
But that is secondary. Primary is Maori agreement on how to use the land. The family divide has to be bridged over first, and since they have a track record of four years of failure to do that, someone decisive must break that impasse. That's why Pania appealed to the PM.
No, Fletchers are primary as they have title. Mandated Maori already have agreement on how the land will be used. Fletchers can sit back, let the iwi fight it out in court inevitably, and make sure they get paid well.
There's no good will left on this site now. At minimum any housing deal with unstable Maori iwi will attract massively increased risk premiums for the following:
– insurance
– access to site
– stakeholder management and communications
– completion bonds
– commercial risk
– government relations
– Maori consultation
– marketing
… and more, but you get the idea.
Most of the land won’t go to iwi. It will mostly go into the existing public reserve with iwi co-governance. The major reason is that the government won’t want this to become a precedent for other treaty settlements, especially Ngapuhi.
The iwi (actually a hapu) will get the 25% of the land promised under the Fletchers deal.
Sure. At times like this, one remembers it was Graham and Bolger who began the settlement process not the Rogernomics fan boys in Labour.
If you cannot talk sensibly about it, it is better to be say less than more.
and so it goes..
..and goes..
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1154803658447609856
https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/status/1154821513478098944
Jerrold Nadler, who compared Russian interference in the 2016 election to Pearl Harbor.
Slight credibility problem when one is a laughing stock.
https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/a-consensus-emerges-russia-committed-an-act-of-war-on-par-with-pearl-harbor-and-911-should-the-u-s-response-be-similar/
Slight credibility problem when one is a laughing stock.
I'd credit you with some wry self-awareness there, except you've never shown any before.
Nope, you still don't got it, sorry.
A better precedent is the quickie impeachment of Bush.
Had to do a rat-swallowing deal across the floor, but they got it done.
From the dark caverns of the right Twitter comes the idea that George Soros is funding the SOUL protestors.
"We found, ah, ah, insufficient evidence, ah, ah, of the President's culpability."
The desperate DNC masterminds—Jerrold ("Pearl Harbor") Nadler, Adam Scheff, Charles Schumer, and the rest of that sorry bunch—made a major mistake when they put all their rotten eggs in the basket wielded by poor old muddle-headed Mueller. Thanks to their incompetence, we have five and a half more years of Trump to endure.
Man! you are one sick puppy.
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Could you expand a little on that intriguingly brief critique? Thanks in anticipation.
It’s high time we stopped getting wealthy shuffling our addresses around. It serves so few of us well. Gutting my rental house and installing Euro appliances, Indonesian teak floors and Home & Garden bathrooms is adding false value. It’s still just a place to live.
I win financially, I can up the rent to more than cover my renovation loan repayments. But does New Zealand win? I fear not.
Genuinely adding value is not as simple as making my rental worth twice as much a week. My flash flat adds next to no value to our nation beyond a couple no longer having to wash their dishes by hand and my fat wallet. It’s shallow value.
Our energies and efforts should be better placed.
Few of the 9 million are desperately searching for a comfortable affordable home in Sweden, they turn their efforts to Volvo, Swedish Match, ABB, Ericsson, Husqvarna, Saab, H&M, Alfa Laval, Electrolux, Ikea, Sandvik, Hasselblad, Koenigsegg, Scania instead.
Shafting each other over a place to live is a crap way to make our country better.
What policy and from whom are you complaining about?
Hi Ad, I just grabbed the mike and mouthed off, no policy.
No complaints here, I lead a Huckleberry life. I'd like to see the chap that lives over behind my place presented with a few promising opportunities.
Focusing on the big things.
*counsellors*
https://twitter.com/itvnews/status/1154782412557168643
eh, squire?
#prat
I'd hope they apply the same discipline to Cabinet papers and briefings, as Prime Minister Helen Clark and Heather Simpson did. No paragraph ever started with 'however', for example.
Come out of this office environment?
Aye, well, but plenty of our laws fuck up over misplaced commas.
Entire legal industries rise and fall like a breath on the weight of paragraph indents.
Tax, and RMA, for example.
That's how the legal profession likes it addy.
'However' is one of those stupid inclusions that indicates that all you've stated prior has the potential to be bullshit.
It is the language of the buck passer.
The wriggle room of "Well I didn't actually endorse the findings."
It is a sanctuary only offered to those that are plugged into the Mother Ship.
Others go broke.
Agree, usually.
However, there are other uses.
M.P. = Member of Parliament
M.P.s = Member of Parliament.s?
Ms.P. = Members of Parliament?
It's all arbitrary. You do what God says, well Mogg anyway. I'd heard some of the speech from Johnson with the excitement of how they're going to make Britain the greatest place on the planet. Mogg's clearly shown his priorities and is onto one of the most critical issues facing the nation. Other stuff might take a while but at least they're going to write proper like.
Such a load of BS from Johnson and ilk. He is all screwed up with the excitement of being determined to make a decision, which nobody else has been able to do. Leave the EU with a hard Brexit.
As a well educated chap he would know The Charge of the Light Brigade – glory and death showing the valour and the colours and the stupidity of Britain. And the story behind it, of a botched message, or a deliberately misunderstood one. But NZ showed how you can bamboozle most of the people all of the time.
Death or glory is Toad's watchword as he battles (with the help of his supporters) to make Toad Hall great again in Wind in the Willows. Toad is so reminiscent of Boorish. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErxdKKurIDg
The put downs ,the put downs.
Such an arriviste.
I’m told his grandparents bought their own furniture.
https://twitter.com/SocialHistoryOx/status/1154812380335022080
Wonder if it would not be best if the All Blacks lost everything this year (traitor!).
Yes, some recent successes get all the accolades, hyperbole and wall to wall coverage, and while for the most part it is not the players fault, i wonder if it is not sometimes making heroes out of all other things being equal, 'also rans', when it comes to the way NZ rugby has been run & governed.
I wonder if behind it, NZ rugby is in abit of a pathetic state to the strong almost shared birth right culture that it provided and enjoyed in society. Although for many folks it was the radio for the most part, the Great Black Caps cricket world cup, that was the type of value in sport that rugby near use to provide to NZ annually. Although the wheels started to fall off gradually when the new model was introduced, it was still mostly obvious to everyone the strong health of the NZ rugby culture in a way that was a societal resource & recreation like no where else in the world.
And that's one thing that was so great about the NZ Black Caps cricket world cup run, there was an unmistakable NZ way/reflection in the approach and play of the game. And despite the relatively thin coverage, and for a notable part, skeptical media coverage, the NZ public knew it and responded in kind. Win or lose, New Zealand was winning and won.
It may be impossible to get the old All Blacks postion in world sport back now, but it's still possible to get the NZ game of rugby back. But it can not be obliterated at the top and grown on the ground at the same time i'd say.
Wonder if it would not be best if the All Blacks lost everything this year…
Flashback to 1998! Flashback to 1998!
like most games too, to really bottom out.