Someone in Hamilton is racist as well as stupid

Written By: - Date published: 8:30 am, August 23rd, 2016 - 35 comments
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Community voice defaced billboard

It is election time. Throughout the country billboards are springing up from the ground with pictures of people wanting to be civic leaders and associated words designed to persuade the public that these people understand the job and will represent them best.

Graffiti and damage are common occurrences, although thankfully this year much less frequent.

Years ago on my first campaign it seemed that a third of all signs had to be rescued and repaired each week.  Nowadays the incidence of damage is thankfully much less common.  Although these are early days …

In Hamilton a piece of graffiti has attracted public attention.  A local candidate standing for the Community Voice ticket, Yugraj Singh Mahil, has had the word “ISIS” sprayed on his billboard.

What if anything was going on in the sprayer’s mind is unknown.  Presumably he or she thinks that Mr Mahil is a Muslim and therefore an ISIS supporter.

There are however major flaws with Hamilton billboard graffiti artist’s understanding.

Firstly Mr Mahil is a Sikh. This is an incredibly short disrespectful description of them but Sikhism is a religion that originated from the Punjab and involves belief in a monotheistic god. Male Sikhs have “Singh” (Lion), and female Sikhs have “Kaur” (princess) as their middle or last name. Initiated Sikhs wear a turban. There may be 27 million Sikhs in the world.

Their beliefs are comparable to christianity. Their religion is opposed to greed, ego, attachment, anger, and lust. Throw in envy and sloth and you have a checklist any Catholic could agree to. And their religion proposes meditation, prayer, and that everyone should improve their relationship with God and if they do so God will forgive, cleanse, and save them. Very similar to Catholicism of which I have more than a nodding acquaintance with.

Every Sikh I have ever met has always been pleasant. I have had way worse interactions with Australians.

And let’s be clear here. Sikhs are not Muslims. It is like saying that Irish are Anglo Saxons.

The next problem that Hamilton billboard graffiti artist has is equating Muslims with ISIS.

There are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world or about one in every four humans.  This analysis from Clarion Project suggests that there are 42 million Arabs who think somewhat positively about ISIS. The phrase is “somewhat positively”. This is not strap on an explosive belt and lets see who we can kill supportive, this is my home has been destroyed by bombing and I am somewhat upset by it sort of supportive.

Number wise this is 2.6% of the total Muslim population. It is like rounding up all the New Zealanders who support ACT and United Future. Suggesting that they are somehow representative of Kiwis as a whole is just as much of a stretch.

Another comparison is to suggest that members of the National Rifle Association or the Klu Klux Klan represent all American views. The proportions may be different but the principle, blaming a whole population’s belief on the actions of a small minority, is the same.

Clearly it is dangerous to ascribe the beliefs of a small part of a population to the population as a whole.

But this is the really stupid thing. Hamilton billboard graffiti artist clearly does not understand that Sikhs are not Muslims. So blaming them for the beliefs of a very small minority of Muslims is very silly because they are not Muslims. It is like blaming New Zealanders for something the Russians might have done.

Anyway I home Mr Yugrav Singh Mahil had a good campaign and I would be more than happy for him to be elected. Our democratic institutions should be representative and include representatives from all of our communities.

Reprinted from gregpresland.com.

35 comments on “Someone in Hamilton is racist as well as stupid”

  1. Halfcrown 1

    Not only stupid and racist, also of low intelligence and thick as two short planks.

  2. grumpystilskin 2

    +1
    The graffiti says more about the person who wrote it then anything else.

  3. Bill 3

    S’not the turban Micky. Everyone knows that a big beard is dangerous and that it’s growing.

  4. Siobhan 4

    I know I’m just adding to it…but dumb nuts like this and their infantile scrawlings get way too much media attention…which they no doubt revel in.
    Personally I think the sign should have been taken down, cleaned…and promptly forgotten about. It did not need to be the headline story on National Radio.
    It isn’t a dangerous mass movement of racist action..it’s the work of one guy with a tin of paint.

    Incidentally I know of many political signs that have been greatly enhanced by people I may or may not know, and they never get onto the News.

  5. TC 5

    Hamilton’s going to be a bit of a litmus test with egomaniacs and nactoids like king and southgate vying to take over from hardakers debt fuelled reign.

    Declining services, rising rates, near million dollar new homes, a struggling dhb run by another dodgy nat drop in the community is unhappy with and now water bills….sound familiar ?

    This looks like work of the stupid so get ready for more about good ole nz as tis the season for it.

    • Graeme 5.1

      Like the bozo who tried to get argy-bargy with Winston Peters during the last election campaign.

  6. Graeme 6

    It’s not just some at the tron that have trouble with this distinction.

    At the height of the post 9/11 tourist boom (NZ tourism did REALLY well out of the post 9/11 paranoia) an Air New Zealand ATR flight to Christchurch was held up on the apron at Queenstown for nearly an hour when a member of an American tour group had a panic attack around two young Sikh gentlemen, chefs at a very popular local restaurant, who were also on the flight. Of course the panic spread to the whole tour and the crew had no option other than off load the two Sikh boys and get them up to Christchurch on the next flight when it just about escalated to a diplomatic level.

    The level of mistrust / fear around Sikh is difficult to understand, they are gentle, disciplined people. But they do have to fight for their freedom sometimes. It seemed the only time you saw the word Sikh in MSM was preceding the word terrorist.

    • Andre 6.1

      Fuck I wish airlines would take some calcium pills, grow a spine, and say to anyone having a racist hissy fit about another passenger “if you have a problem with any of our other customers, you are welcome to deplane and take another flight. It’s your problem, not ours and not theirs”.

      • Graeme 6.1.1

        In the case above there may have been some issues with checked through bags…

        • Graeme 6.1.1.1

          Just to clear my ambiguity there, it was the aggrieved gringo’s bags that may have had some issues getting home

      • weka 6.1.2

        There was a case the other week where an airline attendant took offense to a woman on a plane who was wearing a hijab and listening to something on some headphones. Her and her husband got thrown off the plane. The pilot had the final say I think.

        • Graeme 6.1.2.1

          Just wearing headphones can get you on the way to being kicked off a plane. About not being able to hear, or ignoring, safety instructions. Like how Bob Jones got kicked off Air NZ. Although you’d probably have to give the crew some lip as well.

  7. Rosie 7

    Yeah, I heard about this eye roll inducing graffiti. Sometimes the pain of stupidity and bigotry literally draws out a groan from deep within.

    Thank you Mickey for clearly and sensibly pointing out why the two main reasons in which the graffiti sprayer was so amazingly wrong.

    It needed to be said. I hope the sprayer has learnt of his/her mistake, somehow, somewhere along the line since he/she did that.

  8. TheExtremist 8

    You can be stupid but not racist however you can’t be racist and not stupid.

  9. Ad 9

    We should not underestimate race rage in New Zealand.

    We saw the Mayor of New Plymouth being spat on in the street for daring to suggest that there could be Maori represented on a local Council. May seem like a long bow to draw to this, but not in a global context.

    We won’t see Trump, Federated Farmers, the NRA, the white NIMBY’s who opposed the Auckland Unitary Plan, or others of their ilk moderating their messages. They aren’t people who are polite when they lose. In the US version it’s “We still got the guns. We don’t have the vote, but we have the guns.” Thankfully in New Zealand it’s as simple as “We got the property, we got the water rights, therefore we stack the system to eternity against you, and spit on you in the street and your kids at school if you try to change anything.”

    In the US that means they are committed to the Police, anti-immigration, jails, and their own property. In New Zealand that means exactly the same. In New Zealand terms they won’t be caught celebrating Waitangi Day, Matariki, Maori Language Week, or social welfare. Don Brash as leader of the National Party came very close to winning an election on exactly all of that.

    Those of us who care about pluralism, progressivism, justice, equality, that good stuff, had better be really clear: elections bring out the people who are not convertible. They are not our allies. They are not potential friends. We will either defeat and suppress those impulses and their redneck tendencies and impose the values of a just and decent society, or we will let them win.

    That’s what standing for election is in no small part about.

    There is no middle ground.

    • weka 9.1

      You’re becoming more fundamentalist yourself there Ad :-/

      What do you propose to do with the rednecks who won’t be suppressed? I think what you are proposing leads to the situation in the US. A much greater divide that eventually becomes militant.

      • Colonial Viper 9.1.1

        Only approved citizens whose views that we approve of shall have a voice in our democracy.

        • Nelson Muntz 9.1.1.1

          Yup, The Standard to a tee.

          [lprent: The Standard is a machine and has no golfing experience.

          But if you don’t want to comment here as you have so clearly indicated in this comment, then I can facilitate that outcome. Bye.

          Explanation a classic idiotic troll banned permanently for a characteristic level of stupidity and a distinct lack of humour in any comment that I scanned since feb. ]

    • Colonial Viper 9.2

      They are not our allies. They are not potential friends. We will either defeat and suppress those impulses and their redneck tendencies and impose the values of a just and decent society, or we will let them win.

      Remind me who you think the “allies” of liberal progressives in NZ actually are? Exactly which sections of NZ society do you think look up to and follow the lead of these self-styled liberal progressives?

      • Ad 9.2.1

        I would say the allies are the people who clean the graffiti off that sign and stand for election, or support those who are standing for election.

    • What amount of race rage do you have ad? What are you doing about it, apart from inflamming it like your comment on the Māori king?

      • Ad 9.3.1

        The best thing to do from a democratic perspective is to get good people elected.
        If one can’t stand for election, support people who are.

        • ropata 9.3.1.1

          so, immigration “good” and complaining about it is “racist” huh?

          must be nice to have such a simple mind

  10. Wensleydale 10

    Years ago on my first campaign it seemed that a third of all signs had to be rescued and repaired each week. Nowadays the incidence of damage is thankfully much less common.

    Wait until the John Key billboards start going up again. Then you’ll see true artistry at work.

  11. Guerilla Surgeon 11

    People have been shot in America because rednecks are too dumb to know the difference between a Sikh and an Muslim. Not that it’d be okay to shoot a Muslim mind.

  12. ropata 12

    I hope Standardistas were equally upset by the vandalism of Bob McCroskrie’s family home a couple of years ago.

  13. Andrea 13

    ISIS/Daesh is NOT ‘a race’. People from many countries and a range of human varieties join the movement.

    Sikhism is a religion: not a ‘race’. Judaism is a religion, not a ‘race’, and people who AREN’T ‘semitic’ can belong and practice some version of it.

    Just when are we going to stop flinging this relic of the nineteenth century like mud pies? ‘Race’.

    Or is it just handy to use ‘race’ because it’s too hard to spell zeno…seno…xenophobia?

    PS Anyone written to Hekia Parata to complain about the poor teaching of geography and social studies in schools?

    • Richard McGrath 13.1

      Absolutely agree. I can’t see how anyone can conclude that Islam, ISIS or their respective followers is/are a ‘race’. They are ideologies or political movements.

      • One Anonymous Bloke 13.1.1

        As Wikipedia puts it, the notion of race is based on “folk taxonomy”, so anyone can conclude anything they damn well please.

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    Local body elections are coming up next month. And it looks like all Palmerston North candidates for Horizons (the Manawatu-Whanganui Regional Council) want to take action on climate change:Climate change is set to be a key issue in Palmerston North for the next three years if those wanting to get ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • BORA reform is stalled
    Eighteen months ago, the government promised to strengthen the Bill of Rights Act, by explicitly affirming the power of the courts to issue declarations of inconsistency and requiring Parliament to formally respond to them. So how's that going? I was curious, so I asked for all advice about the proposal. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
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  • Corbyn and Brexit
    As the Brexit saga staggers on, the focus is naturally enough on the Prime Minister and his attempts to achieve Brexit “do or die”. But the role played by the Leader of the Opposition is of almost equal interest and complexity. The first problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he ...
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  • A ditch for him to die in
    Last week, English Prime Minister Boris Johnson boldly declared that he would rather die be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit. Unfortunately for him, the UK parliament accepted the challenge, and promptly dug one for him. The "rebellion bill" requires him to ask for and secure yet another temporary ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Warning! Warning! Danger Jacinda Ardern! Danger Marama Davidson! Warning!
    Lost In Political Space: The most important takeaway from this latest Labour sexual assault scandal, which (if I may paraphrase Nixon’s White House counsel’s, John Dean’s, infamous description of Watergate) is “growing like a cancer” on the premiership, is the Labour Party organisation’s extraordinary professional paralysis in the face of ...
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  • Union solidarity with Ihumatao land occupation
    by Daphna Whitmore Every Sunday for the past two months unionists from First Union, with supporters from other unions, have set out to the Ihumatao land protest, put up gazebos and gas barbeques, and cooked food for a few hundred locals and supporters who have come from across the country. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
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  • Climate Change: The wrong kind of trees?
    Newsroom today has an excellent, in-depth article on pine trees as carbon sinks. The TL;DR is that pine is really good at soaking up carbon, but people prefer far-less efficient native forests instead. Which is understandable, but there's two problems: firstly, we've pissed about so long on this problem that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • No freedom of speech in Turkey
    Canan Kaftancioglu is a Turkish politician and member of the opposition Republican People's Party (CHP). Like most modern politicians, she tweets, and uses the platform to criticise the Turkish government. She has criticised them over the death of a 14-year-old boy who was hit by a tear gas grenade during ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speaker: Tadhg Stopford: Why I’m standing for the ADHB
    Hi there, just call me Tim.We face tough problems, and I’d like to help, because there are solutions.An Auckand District Health Board member has nominated me for as a candidate for the ADHB, because her MS-related pain and fatigue is reduced with hemp products from Rotorua.  Nothing else helped her. If I ...
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  • Good little vassals
    The Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has published their report on whether the SIS and GCSB had any complicity in American torture. And its damning. The pull quote is this:The Inquiry found both agencies, but to a much greater degree, the NZSIS, received many intelligence reports obtained from detainees who, ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
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  • Who Shall We Turn To When God, And Uncle Sam, Cease To Defend New Zealand?
    Bewhiskered Cassandra? Professor Hugh White’s chilling suggestion, advanced to select collections of academic, military and diplomatic Kiwi experts over the course of the past week, is that the assumptions upon which Australia and New Zealand have built their foreign affairs and defence policies for practically their entire histories – are ...
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  • The Politics of Opposition
    For most of the time I was a British MP, my party was out of government – these were the Thatcher years, when it was hard for anyone else to get a look-in. As a front-bencher and shadow minister, I became familiar with the strategies required in a parliamentary democracy ...
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  • More expert comments on the Canadian fluoride-IQ paper
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    RedlineBy Admin
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  • Air New Zealand identifies this enormous plot of unused land as possible second airport site
    Air New Zealand couldn’t believe its luck that this seemingly ideal piece of real estate had so far gone entirely unnoticed. Air New Zealand’s search for a site to build a second Auckland Airport may have made a breakthrough this afternoon, after employees scanning Google satellite imagery spotted a huge, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
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  • Redline on the Labour Party
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    2 weeks ago
  • New Fisk
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
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  • Labour’s failure
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Ardern attempts to vaccinate Clarke Gayford live on television to prove that it’s safe
    Gayford, pictured here on The Project, before things got wildly out of control. A bold public relations move by the Government to encourage parents to vaccinate their children has gone horribly wrong. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern appeared on tonight’s episode of Three’s The Project, where the plan was for her ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Has Mr. Whippy gone too far by parking on our front lawns?
    Mr. Whippy’s business model has driven it down a dark road of intimidation. Residents in major centres around the country are becoming disgruntled by the increasingly aggressive actions of purported ice cream company Mr. Whippy, who have taken to parking on people’s front lawns and doorsteps in a desperate attempt ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Cleaning up the water
    Today the government released its Action Plan for Healthy Waterways, aimed at cleaning up our lakes and rivers. Its actually quite good. There will be protection for wetlands, better standards for swimming spots, a requirement for continuous improvement, and better standards for wastewater and stormwater. But most importantly, there's a ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Fronting up
    Today I appeared before the Environment Committee to give an oral submission on the Zero Carbon Bill. Over 1,500 people have asked to appear in person, so they've divided into subcommittees and are off touring the country, giving people a five minute slot each. The other submitters were a mixed ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear
    Anti-fluoride activists have some wealthy backers – they are erecting billboards misrepresenting the Canadian study on many New Zealand cities – and local authorities are ordering their removal because of their scaremongering. Many New Zealanders ...
    2 weeks ago

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