Written By:
notices and features - Date published:
9:00 am, April 3rd, 2018 - 29 comments
Categories: Abuse of power, internet, making shit up, Media, Politics, spin, the praiseworthy and the pitiful, you couldn't make this shit up, youtube -
Tags:
The server will be getting hardware changes this evening starting at 10pm NZDT.
The site will be off line for some hours.
Part….
http://money.cnn.com/2018/03/07/media/sinclair-broadcasting-promos-media-bashing/index.html
…of the plan….
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/10/ready-for-trump-tv-inside-sinclair-broadcastings-plot-to-take-over-your-local-news-1/
…to create an outlet for the age, I reckon.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/8/12/1689068/-Sinclair-Broadcast-News-exposed-its-white-nationalist-agenda-today
This is extremely dangerous to our democracy….
https://www.bigissuenorth.com/news/2018/03/beginning-end-secret-corporate-courts/
Go back to sleep, it’s OK. The corporations have taken over, just be happy with the little scraps they throw you, the politicians are all in their back pockets. Go back to sleep. It’s OK.
Now, Shut Up, and do as your told. There’s a good little liberal democrat.
George Carlin has this worked out 15 years ago
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6oBo8CJxatQ
Really ed, really.
Who would have guessed.
I’ve been under a rock for all this time.
The mould under here is a puted yellow, should I lick that as well…
I wasn’t meaning to criticise you.
Merely admiring the foresight of Carlin.
Carlin was genius
And we should honour him every day by embracing a little ball of silly putty.
Well, I’m kind of laughing at the irony.
Putting aside the script seems to have been written for a number of syndicated TV stations (and so is legit in that regard), the suggestion that inaccurate and/or downright false information only peculates social media is risible.
It’s also very much the general line from the US establishment (whichever side).
Which brings me on to all this ‘recently undermined mainstream media’ imploring and encouraging people to kill their facebook accounts. Facebook accounts that the likes of Sanders and Corbyn successfully used to by-pass the brick wall of mainstream media.
Where the left and right, liberal and conservative are all handies in glovies… surely that’s where the “extremely dangerous” lies, no?
Yes Bill! I thought “some politicians are able through Facebook, to talk to the people directly”
Well that can’t happen, what the politicos say should be amplified for the right and muffled for the left…. that’s democracy modern style.
Though Fox’s beat up is concerning, the real fake news proliferators remain a serious problem. There is yellow press like Fox, and there is increasing use of ‘opinion’ within otherwise reputable news, which is basically gossip. There are the ranter blogs and websites, which ready recruit the uncritical (most of our Putinistas for example), as well as less obvious assaults like those perpetrated through facebook and google.
So what’s the antidote? Reading helps – a solid background on the matter under discussion renders one almost immune to less sophisticated attempts to sway or to deceive. Personal contacts – genuine input from concerned people in Syria or Ukraine or Myanmar or Yemen debunks the crafted narratives and often reveals issues that might otherwise be overlooked. Genuine reporting – which uses sources can be good too, but the standards vary even between accounts by the same individual.
Does it matter? Yes. At present a great deal of potential progressive energy is being diverted to defend the imperialist ambitions of the Russian state. That’s not particularly functional, for all that dining with the US requires a mighty long spoon.
Oh the sweet, sweet irony 🙂
To dismiss critical voices as “Putinistas”, at the same time as imploring people to educate themselves, before swinging off into some supposed waste of energy spent to defend the imperialist ambitions of the Russian state.
That would be the imaginary line ascribed to critics of interventionist liberal policy by interventionist liberals. Whose take on things is defended from criticism or analysis by the sole issuing cry of “Putinista!”
Bill, you’re better informed than some, but a lot of Putinistas don’t have a clue what they’re defending. It’s not pretty.
So…you saying I’m a better informed Putinista? And also that my commentary or opinion is in the defence of something to do with Russia?
Can you not see how those assumptions (thoroughly wrongheaded as they are) might simply be indicative of just how “one eyed” you are?
I consider an embrace of Putin’s cause incompatible with claims of progressive values.
So people who repeat the dezinformatsiya of that regime lose credibility with me, regardless of the reasoning they claim to employ.
Very good Stuart. Bar one small detail.
Of all the comments and opinions I’ve read, I’d be pushed to identify those that “embrace Putin’s cause” – whatever that may be.
There is bugger all repeating of “dezinformatsiya of that regime” as you term it, for the simple fact that all (more or less) of the information we receive is information from “our” governments…amplified and echoed across major liberal or corporate media outlets.
That information comes in two broad forms.
1. Information that originates from “our” governments, and
2. Information from elsewhere that “our” governments, and/or major liberal/corporate media outlets, filter and spin.
I mean, do you have any idea of the make-up of factions within the Kremlin; what they stand for; who is who or anything much besides the ‘knowledge’ fed to us and that we’re meant to run with – that the Kremlin is a mafia style set-up?
As it happens Bill, I don’t follow the Kremlin cliques – that’s a task and a half, much as one imagines Washington or even Wellington is. But I have a couple of Russian speaking friends who do, who occasionally bring things to my attention.
Your presumptions about information sources are less than encyclopedic, there are huge reserves of personal accounts that flesh out the crude skeletons the media publish.
OK, so you want to challenge the ‘kleptocracy’ label often applied to Russia. Is it because you have evidence of scrupulous dealing, or just that you distrust the framers or bearers of that news?
This is getting a bit silly.
If you think the information we receive is somehow “neutral” or “objective”, then we have very different takes on how media works across “the west”.
I wouldn’t know jack-shit about the internal machinations of Russian politics, but when I hear the catch-all phrase of “mafia state” being applied to Russia, I wonder where meant to position Russia in relation to Italy as far as that type of corruption goes. Or whether I’m to think Russian politics is more, or less, influenced by money than US politics. Or whether Russia’s extra-parliamentary networks have a greater or lesser influence on the Russian parliament than Britain’s do on Westminster.
Actually, I don’t lose any sleep over any of the above. They’re all in the same boat as far as I’m concerned, and the sooner we’re shot of the lot of them, whether in NZ, Russia, the US or the UK, the better it will be for all of us 🙂
Well you see that’s where we differ.
May is nothing special, but except for unresolved wheatfield issues and the pathological neoliberalism one expects from a British banker’s wife she is not dangerous.
Opposition politicians in Russia are routinely killed however, and dissidents, even those as divorced from conventional politics as Pussy Riot, are routinely imprisoned.
They are not “all in the same boat” to me, and accepting that equivalence would tend to erode rather than elevate local politics. I’d rather see standards rising myself.
So apart from the fact that May’s dangerous, May isn’t dangerous. I wonder if the same was said of Thatcher…or Blair.
Opposition politicians and activists (eg unionists) aren’t routinely murdered in Mexico, Columbia and many ‘elsewheres”?
Ordinary people aren’t (some would say routinely) shot dead by representatives of the state in the US?
Vendettas aren’t carried out by powerful actors against other powerful actors the world over?
You can slice it and dice it however you like, but at the end of the day it all comes back to the same shit. Now sure, you can grade it and say “this” is worse than “that” if you want to give a free pass to some pretty terrible shit.
Meh – your all sama sama just lets Putin off the hook. And that boy’s got a real long butcher’s bill. You want to put May in the same box, you’ve got to show multiple bodies, and multiple invasions.
Is ‘putinista’ a variant on ‘tinfoil hat wearer’?
A dismissive title for someone who doesn’t swallow everything the guardian regurgitates.
I have noticed post election, the spite, the snarkiness and intolerance of dissenting views increasing here on TS.
I get with ‘lefties’ a desire to be purer than thou, but some of the crap that has been going down here recently is unattractive.
We can look for what unites us.
To do otherwise is dangerous to our democracy.
This is not in any way a criticism of the moderation, I think it has been even handed.
That would be a matter of perspective. I use it to mean a supporter of Putin, which is in line with similar historical uses – Zapatistas were supporters of Zapata for example.
When we come to a matter like Syria or the Ukraine, I’m happy to accommodate the differing opinions of actual progressives. But I’m not happy to make space for the propaganda of a belligerent despot. So that those who knowingly or unknowingly repeat it, lose standing, at least from my perspective.
Woohoo more labels, I’m getting a collection.
Why bother thinking critically when we can all throw labels around as insults, glorious days, just glorious!!
Bugger the ordinary folk, we have a way of life to defend!!
Just remember:
Eric Arthur Blair aka George Orwell
What we have now is the reincarnation of the Ministry of Truth.
Ed – Carlin didn’t work this out first Orwell, had it well sussed by 1949. But then he was just analysing the work of Goebbels:
just make some better shit up or even tell the truth and sling it back. freakout friday. let them have it. here, facebook, anywhere. its fun. guranteed. this is democracy in action.
A recently published study by Researchers at Ohio State has found evidence that the publishing of 3 Fake News stories during the 2016 campaign could well have been influential in swinging the vote to Trump and away from Clinton. The study shows that the 3 fake news stories were closely linked to a swing away from Clinton of about 2.2 or 2.3 points apiece in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Clinton lost Michigan by 0.2 points and Pennsylvania and Wisconsin by 0.72 and 0.76 points, respectively.
And further to the above.
Anonymous journos employed within the Sinclair group of media outlets have written an essay here:
https://www.vox.com/first-person/2018/4/5/17202336/sinclair-broadcasting-promo-deadspin
They express dismay at the developing editorial direction the top management are directing. Many would leave, but it is not that simple, as to resign under their current contract would cost them thousands of dollars because they are contract for a specific term!
If people are not worried about the Sinclair Group taking over control of media in the US they should be. This is extremely dangerous for the left, in the US, and we should be concerned.
Currently the Sinclair Broadcasting Group is already one of the most powerful media companies in the country. It owns nearly 200 local television stations in nearly 100 markets they reach nearly 39% of US households. The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) doesn’t allow a single company to own stations that reach more than 39 percent of US television homes. However, the Sinclair group are in the process of buying out another local TV network, Tribune, and using loopholes in the legislation they will then control access to up to 72% of TV households in the US. Local TV is the main medium by which most households in the US gain their “News”.
https://www.vox.com/2018/4/6/17202824/sinclair-tribune-map
The resulting network can be seen in the link above.
The centralisation of local news and the censoring of major political items is dangerous, and reminiscent of the 1984’s “Ministry of Truth” .