Written By:
mickysavage - Date published:
6:51 pm, October 6th, 2014 - 52 comments
Categories: david parker, greens, john key, labour, national -
Tags: cameron slater, dirty politics, matt blomfield, matthew blomfield
So the police has raided Nicky Hager’s home seeking information that may lead to the discovery of who Rawshark is. The investigation is obviously very politically charged as the raid could have a chilling effect on journalists investigating the Government using information which may have been obtained in unusual circumstances.
This action is comparable to what happened in 2011 when John Key persuaded the police to obtain warrants to raid various media outlets and have Bradley Ambrose formally warned by the police after the teapot tape saga.
But there are a couple of other recent politically charged investigations where the police response has been less than ideal. For instance in 2010 Matt Blomfield had his office burgled and various emails from a hard drive he believes was stolen appeared on Cameron Slater’s website. To the best of my knowledge a warrant has not been granted let alone sought to try and find out where the information came from even though Slater clearly had access to information that Blomfield wanted kept private. And this incident is not a minor thing. Blomfield has complained that he was recently attacked in his home by someone with a gun and you would think the police would want to investigate matters carefully to see if there was any link between whoever originally obtained the hard drive and the attack.
And there was the Labour complaint filed by David Parker about the revelations in dirty politics in this letter:
1 September 2014
Mr Mike Bush
Commissioner of Police …
Dear Sir
Conspiring to defeat the Course of Justice and other matters
You will be aware of allegations against the former Minister of Justice Hon Judith Collins, Cameron Slater, Carrick Graham and others concerning:
· Undermining of the Serious Fraud Office
· Undermining of the Financial Markets Authority
· Undermining of the head of the SFO
· Intimidation of witnesses, including Mr Gapes,
in relation to the SFO and FMA investigation into the affairs of the Hanover Group of companies and their directors.
You will also be aware of allegations against the former Minister of Justice, Cameron Slater, and others concerning:
· Use of personal information regarding Simon Pleasants to incite threats
· In respect of the Minister, the corrupt use of personal information regarding Simon Pleasants to obtain an advantage (section 105A of the Crimes Act)
· Use of that information (section 105B of the Crimes Act)
You will also be aware of allegations against Jason Ede, Cameron Slater, Aaron Bhatnagar, and others concerning:
· Accessing the Labour Party computer system in breach of section 249 and 252 of the Crimes Act
· The use of dynamic (ie changing) email and computer addresses to avoid detection
These are serious matters that go to the heart of administration of justice in New Zealand and public confidence in democracy and the rule of law.
I would ask that you urgently investigate these matters. I am concerned that there is evidence, including computer records that urgently need to be secured and preserved.
In making this request, I am aware that you exercise your role independently, and that these decisions are yours to make.
Yours faithfully
[Signed]Hon David Parker
Shadow Attorney General”
There was also an earlier Green Party complaint about the dirty politics revelations lodged on August 14, 2014. Slater’s complaint was lodged on August 28.
So are these other complaints being investigated properly by the police? And if not why not?
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This type of suggestion doesnt bear thinking about.
I just hope you are wrong.
This is exactly the type of suggestion worth thinking about. We need to ask questions of OUR government. When the Forth Estate fails to keep government accountable, Us as citizens must. It is our duty.
What do you do when corruption extends to the PM’s office. In other countries guerrilla wars have had to be fought to restore democracy.
I have genuine fears we are heading for civil unrest, assassinations, or attempted murder of politicians.
The police have to be seen to be doing their job even if they are not going to do anything about it.
I’m starting to confirm the suspicion I had, that Key cannot or does not have the ability to understand the consequences of his actions, or in this case lack of them as well.
he does not foresee the civil unrest he is heating up, by ignoring attacks on democratic processes.
Their is some bloody nut cases out there, if Tama Iti is one, there is a thousand more.
I know, we think we’re so safe and cosy in our little paradise, until we find out, in this case through Nicky Hagers book what’s really going on.
What really gets me though is how most people don’t want to know. They stick with the MSM line that Keys relatively decent and ignore the truth.
Some of us have seen it coming for years, the guy is after all someone who gambled with the NZ dollar to get rich. I looked at the Whaleoil blog one day and he’d published a photo of a young girl who’d sworn at him in a post. He also said where she studied and worked. Hard to believe but people like this are being used by John Key to scare us.
But to raid Nicky Hager, while leaving the real perpetrators alone, is a big, worrying call by the police. Maybe we need to march up Queen St or something?
@ coaster
Sorry to disappoint you but the police are far-right on the political Richter scale, and will resort to corruption in order to protect their political masters.
John Key probably helped to engineer this raid. Too much of a coincidence that he hands over the Security Services keys to Finlayson only a matter of days after the raid. Lots of skulduggery to hide and the police are assisting him by conducting acts of harassment and intimidation. I expect Nicky Hagar is just the first among a number of prospective targets.
It’s corruption. It’s Key’s office that should have been raided by the police. And Collins’. This is a fucking disgrace.
Do we need a private prosecution regarding the accessing of the labour party database?
That’s a thought …
it wont enable a gen hour search of slaters home though… or ede….
There are months, maybe years of currency in the Dirty Politics scandals.
Failing impartial investigation by police, how feasible are private prosecutions of the alleged multiple breaches of the Crimes Act?
It seems just a little unjust to me! I’m still confident that in time the truth will prevail.
Watch this space!
Hope you know something that others don’t, otherwise the big money and power people are gonna win.
The Commissioner of Police is definitely onto it. Why else would they spend 10 hours searching Nicky Hager’s house for information.
Shilling for Blomfield….how much lower will this site go ?
[lprent: I’ve looked closely at both Blomfield and his case against Slater.
In my view, Slater has already lost the case because much of what he said about Blomfield was some kind of lie. Whether it was massively inflating carefully edited sections that he’d read beyond what a judge will accept as a reasonable interpretation, or just outright making crap up. I suspect that this was simply Slater taking money to attack someone, just as Slater has admitted he has done on Mediawatch, and in his emails published by Nicky Hager and rawshark.
In his submissions to the courts, Cameron Slater has essentially admitted his defamation already by trying for several defenses, none of which are that he was telling the truth about the facts in dispute. Instead he has claimed a variety of other defenses, none of which appear credible to anyone who looks at his case in detail.
Consequently you may not go into details of what is in front of the court both because that is up to court to decide and because I have no wish to be a defendant in perpetuating what I consider to be Slater’s lies by you repeating them on this site and making it and me liable.
So I am preemptively banning you until after the case is settled. Effectively that probably means that you are banned for the foreseeable future. I’d suggest you spend your time on Whaleoil on the basis that it looks like it doesn’t have a future longer than your ban. ]
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The New Zealand police force is a law unto itself and has gained that position by doing favours for its so-called political masters. First under Judith Collins, then under Anne Tolley and now the equally useless Michael Woodhouse, the police force has been allowed to get away with virtually anything so long as it maintains the public confidence and doesn’t cause any negative publicity for the National Ltd™ Cult of John Key, While we know the publicity angle is covered by the strategedy of once-removed-ergo-“not me” and a fawning MSM, exactly how the police force manages to maintain public confidence is a mystery. Since the National Ltd™ Cult of John Key managed to worm its way into power, we have seen . . .
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but wait . . . there’s more:
. . . and that’s just part of the problem. The National Ltd™ Cult of John Key has failed to bring any accountability to the police force itself for allowing such a culture of criminality to develop. Even when given the evidence and a report detailing the required action to eliminate the inherent rape culture within the police following the Louise Nicholas affair, few of the recommendations have been put in place and there has been exactly zero follow up.
Indeed, thankyou BLiP
(see http://thestandard.org.nz/police-raid-hager/#comment-905318)
(Over and oot for now)
Well BliP,
When you put it like that. It’s freaking scary.
Thanks, BLiP for the sterling work compiling all this.
+9000
Ditto GH – thanks BLiP ! Scarey stuff. Seems its okay for the cops to be bullies, or incompetent at their jobs, and no-one takes any notice.
And I do hope – Mickey S – that someone does lay a private prosecution re the Labour computer hack. Something needs to come out into the open about that, at least.
What I haven’t heard yet : what were the grounds/reasons for Nicky Hager’s house and computer searched for ? Didn’t Slater withdraw his complaint/charge ?
Can someone enlighten me please.
I think you’re getting mixed up with the court injunction Slater took against the news media outlets who were in possession of rawshark’s emails. He withdrew it after the MSM made it clear they had no intention of releasing any personal stuff.
Interestingly, they never released any of the final rawshark dump.
As far as Hagar is concerned, the police claimed they were looking for evidence that would identify rawshark. Hagar suspects it was really an attempt to intimidate him.
They’re supposedly trying to discover Rawshark’s identity. But that fact alone is troubling, regardless of the means they use — I’m sure there’ll be plenty of blogs expanding on that.
I do wonder whether the unpublished emails released to the MSM contain something that could conceivably paint Rawshark as a serious enough threat to justify it, but I doubt it. Mostly it just looks too much like intimidation, safe in the knowledge that the public won’t think anything of it.
Of course, the protection Hager has in protecting sources does not eliminate the responsibility of Police to investigate crimes. But they are strangely selective and inconsistent in their priorities.
5 coppers for 10 hours? Remember that when they tell you they are too busy to investigate your burglary and you should come down to the station and some unpaid civilian volunteer will give you a form for your insurance.
Yep from a policing point of view I am sure they had more important priorities involving safety and violence.
So who gave the order to make this a high resource priority.
Blip .. what a Kiwi hero you are, thank you.
And today the dissolute toady Michael Woodhouse becomes Minister of Police. Betcha anything you like that the charges against Donghua Liu are allowed to dissipate to oblivion ….
oh, woe is us ….
I am not up on the Blomfield case so can’t comment. I would have thought that the warrant on Hager would allow material to be gathered for all the complainants (Greens, David Parker and Slater). In any event the public deserves the full story, not just the bits Hager decided to tell. It is hard to see from all this whether they would take further action i.e. prosecution to discover the identity of the hacker. But this whole area is minefield afte the News of the World hackings and the recent rulings on sources in NZ.
Nope search warrants are person and premises specific. We don’t have generalized search powers, yet.
I agree entirely the public deserve the full story which underlines how inappropriate Slater’s attempt to suppress the information was. But the media has all the information but is not doing anything with it. Wonder why not?
micky .. from public address this am via link on rt hand side… looking like good news ..
“At least one of those journalists has now completed a substantial post-election story based on Rawshark material. It’s just a matter of when it will be published.”
Aye waiting with anticipation …
then they raided tv3 apn and fairfax too.. yes?
I think they are relying on the notion that Hager isn’t a journalist and will leave APN etc alone on that basis.
I hope the courts disabuse them of this notion.
More likely Hagar doesn’t have the capital and retained QC’s to defend him like Fairfax and APN.
It a fight they just do not want to wade into.
I take your point, but do we know the warrant was specific to Slater? I would guess the mainstream media would have to do fact checking and verification. Who knows, maybe the rest of the material isn’t that exciting, but nevertheless now that there has been partial release the rest must also be made public (excluding purely private emails).
Warrants refer to places to search and items to be searched for. They could not be used for any of the complaints against slater unless evidence was there. A warrant to search Hager’s home for computers is not a warrant to search Slater’s office for computers.
Your aspersions that the Police are corrupt is pretty repulsive.
The fact that these issues are so heavily in the public eye will mean that the greatest care has been taken to comply with the rules and dispel any potential charge of bias whilst upholding the law.
You know that of course but using the Police as a political football serves your purpose.
What’s repulsive is John Key using the Police to threaten anyone who dares speak against him or even when he is just having a conversation in public that a journo has innocently recorded. You are such a Hypocrite KK.
After the collapse of the Urewera trials, and the bungling and perjury already exposed in Dotcom’s case, your argument that the public eye ensures probity is shaky at best.
Your hypocrisy is showing, Kong.
Yet in this oppressive Police state you have the courage to bag them publicly.
If you really believe what you are saying you should be being disappeared about now.
Really? There are no mass disappearances therefore there are no abuses of power?
Your feeble logic is coughing its guts out in the corner. Bring a healthier one next time.
I think we all accept that the police make errors, but the deliberate malice you are charging them with is simply conspiracy theorist nonsense.
ok then
explain why the police raided a journo – whos not even a suspect – for 10 hours, intimidated his family, effectively shutting down many of his other projects and setting in chain an expensive process for hager to get his property back… when they havent lifted a finger on, and in fact dismissed outright, the other more serious complaints related to the same issue
then explain how seeing two elections with two raids on journos (single or org) – who both embarressed JK – doesnt look like political interference
and then lets discuss the police publicly labelling ambrose as guilty (defamation) – when they have no legal right to do so
I didn’t accuse them of malice I accused them of bias. Everyone has one, what makes you think the cops are different?
KK
Your aspersions that the Police are corrupt is pretty repulsive.
I have done no such thing. I have asked why these other offences are not being investigated. It is a perfectly fair question. One of the incidents in the face of it is way more serious. Stop raising a straw man argument.
No straw man. I just heard your whistling.
Oh sure, pointing out manifest bias is a secret code for something else. Go stand in the Dan Brown corner.
Interesting today in England Nick Clegg told the LibDem conference the police should not be able to use the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act to discover journalists’ sources.
Of course in NZ we have no such scuples
I have been waiting 4 years for Bush to investigate the theft of my emails, so don’t hold your breath