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Banksy on Christmas

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  1. Anne 1

    So poignant.

  2. JanM 2

    When this appeared on Facebook it attracted a lot of really quite vicious comment from Israeli sympathisers

    • George Hendry 2.1

      For more of the same, see lower in this thread. The Xmas spirit of ‘one horse open slay’ is alive and well. 🙂

  3. Manuka AOR 4

    “They build walls, we build hope”
    “In a fraught Middle East, see how both sides celebrate the season of peace. Israel’s Ambassador trolls the U.S. with a defiant gift of “war crimes trinkets,” items from illegal settlements, to rebuke BDS “fanatics and fools.” In contrast, Palestinians march Santas through Bethlehem, “the city of peace” – before getting teargassed – and erect a sparkling Tree of Resistance. ”
    by Abby Zimet: http://www.commondreams.org/further/2015/12/23/they-build-walls-we-build-hope-palestinians-mark-christmas-santas-and-tree

    • Acrophobic 4.1

      And you believe that nonsense?

      • Manuka AOR 4.1.2

        I am not sure whether by “that nonsense” you mean the Santas, photographed here by ActiveStills: http://972mag.com/photos-palestinian-santa-clauses-clash-with-border-police-in-bethlehem/114967/
        Activestills is a collective of Israeli, Palestinian, and international photographers, united by a conviction that photography is a vehicle for political and social change.
        They say: “The nonviolent Santa Claus march was dispersed with tear gas, after which young men from Bethlehem began throwing stones at the police officers, who fired more tear gas, along with rubber-coated bullets and live fire. At least three Palestinians were wounded.”

        … or the Resistance Tree: http://www.imemc.org/article/74320
        This is an olive tree that was killed by the wall, now lit up for Christmas.
        “The tree was decorated with both oppression and resistance tools, according to the PNN; It was adorned with bullets, teargas canisters, wires, walls, and also had the Palestinian Kufiyyeh, slingshots, and photos of Palestinian children killed or imprisoned by occupation authorities.

        “Photos included child detainee Ahmad Manasrah (13) who was shot and tortured by Israeli settlers in Jerusalem, under the stabbing pretext, and Ahmad Dawabsha (4), the only survivor of the Dawabsha family, who were burned alive by Israeli settlers.

        “The tree was surrounded by messages calling for an end to the Israeli occupation and lit with candles for the souls of more than 120 victims killed in only three months.

        “Inside the tree, PSCC planted another young tree as a representation of Palestinian hope and resilience, life emerging from the womb of death.”

        • Acrophobic

          More nonsense. Believe the terrorist propaganda if you want, but the people of Israel have a right to defend themselves against the sort of unprovoked attacks they have endured since 1948.

          • Manuka AOR

            Which part of the following, specifically, do you dispute as being other than factual:

            “Israel has killed 25 Palestinian children since the beginning of the Jerusalem Intifada in early October, a report by the Ministry of Health has revealed. The Ministry of Health added in its report that the number of Palestinian deaths from early October till the first week of December reached 115, including 25 children.

            The report pointed to the injury of 530 children, including 311 with live ammunition, 143 with rubber bullets and 26 by tear gas, as well as 50 others wounded as a result of severe beatings.

            Ayed Abu Qtaish of Defence of Children International explained that Israel killed 17 Palestinian minors during attempts to carry out stabbings; the rest of the 25 children were killed during clashes in the West Bank.

            Abu Qtaish told Quds Press that the vast majority of the killings took place during operations against the Israeli occupation, in which “the children did not pose a danger to the Israeli soldiers who, in turn, did not use gradual measures like arresting them or firing on their lower bodies.”

            He pointed out that his organisation documented Israel’s acknowledgement, in reports, that its police and army killed Palestinian children by shooting directly at them and continuously without prior attempts to arrest them.” https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/middle-east/22708-pa-israel-killed-25-palestinian-children-in-the-past-two-months

            • Paul

              Won’t answer.
              You really are wasting your time with this virulent troll. This new diatribe against the Palestinians takes him to a new low. Beats the climate denial we had the other day. He never engages in reasoned debate.
              He is best ignored.

            • acrophobic

              The bias. You are being manipulated by propaganda. You are defending a people group whose faith stones adulterers, hangs homosexuals, bans Christmas (Somalia and Brunei) and generally represents a threat to freedom across the planet. Yet the nation you decry is a democracy, where arab and jew live side by side.

              Finally, your Palesitinian minors attack with knives, they are no longer minors, they are radicalised scum.

              • joe90

                Yet the nation you decry is a democracy, where arab and jew live side by side.

                Arse, Israel is a racist nation where the death of Palestinian children is celebrated and half of all Jewish Israeli high school students say Arab Israelis don’t deserve the same rights as Jews.



                Two girls with a sign that reads “Hating Arabs is not racism, it’s values.”


                • acrophobic

                  Israel is not a racist nation. Israel is a modern and thriving democracy, where religious liberty is honoured. Unlike most Islamic nations.

                  • joe90

                    No, no racism in Israel.


                    Last November, a suspicious fire broke out at a school in bi-lingual school in Jerusalem that teaches students in both Hebrew and Arabic. Slogans like “there is no co-existence with cancer’’ were spray-painted on the walls. A classroom was trashed.

                    Soon after, Israeli authorities announced the arrest of three members of Lehava, an ultra-nationalist group well known in for its campaign against “assimilation” and marriages between Arabs and Jews. Investigators said the young men had attacked the school because it was a place “Jews and Arabs learn together.’’


                    Here is a shocking fact from a poll conducted by the Israel Democracy Institute and reported by the Times of Israel: fully one-third of Israelis say that unlawful, vigilante violence against non-Jewish African immigrants is fine with them.


                    • acrophobic

                      You didn’t read what I wrote did you? Every country has racists. But Israel is not a racist nation. People of all races enjoy equal rights, unlike many of Israel’s neighbours.

                    • joe90

                      People of all races enjoy equal rights, unlike many of Israel’s neighbours.

                      Just like their neighbours.

                      Crucially, while the bill affirms “the personal rights of all [Israel’s] citizens according to law,” it reserves communal rights for Jews only. In other words, individual Arabs are equal in the eyes of the law, but their communal rights are not recognized.


              • Manuka AOR

                “You are defending a people group whose faith “

                You do know that there are around 100,000 Palestinian Christians on the West Bank and still 1,000 in Gaza, and that Christianity in Palestine is ‘as old as the religion itself’. From the International Business Times, 23/12/15:
                “There’s a surprising unity among Palestinians about one cause, which is always the same, and that is ending the occupation. Palestinian Christians feel as deeply as do Muslim Palestinians.” http://www.ibtimes.com/christmas-looms-gazas-fading-christian-community-eyes-life-outside-besieged-2235275

                And from America Magazine, Christmas Day 2015, on Christian – Muslim relationship: “Here in the Bethlehem area, it’s very good. We live together and we have a very good situation. We are one. We are all Palestinians. For sure, you can feel a difference in the cultures — or within the religions itself. But the most important thing is that we respect one another. They respect me. And I respect them. ”

                “And what about the relationship between Palestinian Christians and Israel?”

                “I feel the problem with Israel is this: They can do whatever they want, and no one outside can tell them not to do something. Whether it’s about human rights violations or taking more land for settlements, no one can tell them anything. They do what they want. Even now, they’re grabbing another section of the Bethlehem region for settlements—the Cremisan Valley. It’s an area where Christians are the majority landowners, and Israel is taking it now for new settlements. They’re building a wall which will block Christians from getting to their lands. It’s a clear violation of international law—even the Vatican has told Israel they must stop. But Israel will listen to no one.” http://americamagazine.org/content/all-things/bleak-christmas-bethlehem

                • acrophobic

                  It is not Palestinian Christians who are lobbing rockets into Israel.

                  • One Two

                    Accusing others of being the protagonists while operating as one on this site

                    One of the lowest roles any human could consciously choose to act in

                    Internet protagonist

          • Stuart Munro


            • Paul

              He won’t have heard of it.
              Wait till he googles it and asks his mentor what to write next.

          • Manuka AOR

            “a right to defend themselves”?
            “People are questioning this one-sided support for Israel through the years, and people are questioning the Israeli narrative about what is going on, – ] ‘Is it really Israel defending itself against the Palestinians, or is Israel attacking a besieged and occupied people?’ ” ~ Dr Mads Gilbert http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/talktojazeera/2014/12/mads-gilbert-people-are-questioning-israel-2014121910554274803.html

            And here is another question: Is not war profiteering one aspect of this? This time last year:
            “Three weeks after Israel’s latest assault on the Gaza Strip concluded, Israeli military and political leaders attended a conference next to Ben Gurion Airport to sell the successes of what Israel dubbed Operation Protective Edge, which killed more than 2,200 Palestinians including 521 children. The annual conference, named “Israel Unmanned Systems 2014,” took place in business-as-usual atmosphere — even with a complimentary beer keg. But the fare was anything but humdrum. Among the offerings were suicide drones, “loitering munitions” that need to explode; a 16-year-old showing off high-tech robots designed by fellow high schoolers and future drone makers; and “premature” weapons, armaments that have not been fully tested before they are used on a live Palestinian population. Such is Israel the military power.

            “The conference showcased the latest drone technology and previewed the industry’s prospects to a few hundred international buyers, vendors, and military figures. Inside a private conference room, political and industry leaders gave presentations — speaking in military euphemisms that avoided any uncomfortable references to the humanitarian catastrophe resulting from the 51-day bombing campaign. – See more at: http://bdsmovement.net/2014/israeli-arms-manufacturers-look-to-cash-in-on-the-war-in-gaza-12946#sthash.lpDPV757.dpuf
            – See more at: http://bdsmovement.net/2014/israeli-arms-manufacturers-look-to-cash-in-on-the-war-in-gaza-12946#sthash.lpDPV757.dpuf

            • acrophobic

              Yep, a right to defend themselves. Read some history. Start with the arab attacks in 1948. You’ll be enlightened.

              • Paul

                Sabra and Shatila

              • Manuka AOR

                In 1948 Uri Avnery was right there, fighting as a squad commander and sending dispatches from the front line to be published in Haaretz. Now, in December 2015, he writes: “There is no such thing as international terrorism”.
                Excerpt: “Netanyahu tries to ride this wave like Hollande and company. He cites the Holocaust (likening a 16-year old boy from Hebron to a hardened SS officer at Auschwitz) and talks endlessly about anti-Semitism.

                “All in order to obliterate one glaring fact: the occupation with its daily, indeed hourly and minutely, chicanery of the Palestinian population. Some government ministers don’t even hide anymore that the aim is to annex the West Bank and eventually drive out the Palestinian people from their homeland.” (emphasis added)

              • You should go there.

                Speak to a variety of Israelis and Palestinians.

                I suspect you will be pleasantly surprised by the humanity and courage of the people you meet.

                It’s true that there are nutters on both sides. But only one side has the most modern army in the world, supported by the largest and most powerful army in the world.

                You’ll realise that Israel holds all the cards in this situation. All of them.
                Dig a bit deeper and look at the territories Israel has illegally occupied in the west bank and it becomes apparent that Israels aggression has more to do with water and arable land than religion.

                • Paul

                  acrophobic is sadly just a nasty troll.

                • acrophobic

                  I have been there. Militarily Israel is vastly superior, and just as well too, considering the governments the palestinians have elected. Israel only occupies territories it won in wars of aggression against it. It beggars belief that after acknowledging that fact, apologists for arab aggression like you continue to support that very aggression.

                  • One Anonymous Bloke

                    Which, by the same witless excuse for logic, makes you an apologist for Irgun terrorism and hotel bombings.

                    Why do you support terrorists? No-one here is cheering for Hamas.

                    • acrophobic

                      Who said you were? But it is an inconvenient truth that Hamas is the elected Govt of Gaza, and Hamas is a terrorist organisation.

                  • One Anonymous Bloke

                    Israel only occupies territories it won in wars of aggression against it.

                    Just like the former Soviet Union. No, wait…

                    It must be hard for wingnuts to remember which international laws to pay lip service to and when.

                    • acrophobic

                      The Soviet Union invaded other territories. Israel’s occupations are totally different. They are most certainly illegal under International Law, but most terrorist sympathisers conveniently forget that Israel withdrew from Gaza and immediately the Palestinians started bombing.

                  • I do not apologise for anything, least of all this “Arab Aggression” you speak about.

                    The world, and Middle East in particular is far too complex to be so reductionist without losing all perspective.
                    Your use of the phrase “Arab Aggression” also seeks to remove any context from the conversation, something critical to actually understanding what is going on in Israel as well as its relationship to surrounding countries (Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, Syria and Saudi Arabia) and the US/UK.

                    If you want to understand what is happening in the Middle East, and Israel in particular, you need to revisit the modern history of the region.
                    I suggest starting with Sykes–Picot after WWI.
                    Useful also because it is entwined with our own ANZAC nation building myth.

                    When you have middle aged women attacking fully armed soldiers with kitchen knives, or young girls blowing themselves up at checkpoints it is a clear sign that the occupation has literally driven people insane.

                    • acrophobic

                      The term ‘arab aggression’ is not reductionist, it is historical fact. Israel retaliates , disproportionately for the most part, but Israel’s Arab neighbours have had decades to live in peace with Israel. Some have chosen to do so. Those that haven’t will continue to pay the price.

              • One Anonymous Bloke

                start with the arab [sic] attacks in 1948

                Cherry picking the ‘start’ date is another way to say “I’ve taken sides”. Why not ‘start’ with Josephus Flavius? Or with the King David Hotel?

                • acrophobic

                  1948 is the date Israel became a recognised sovereign nation. Go back to Isaac and Ishmael if you like. I prefer to stick to the subject.

                  • One Anonymous Bloke

                    The point, fool, is that violence begets violence: no amount of cluster bombs and illegal invasion of Palestinian land will make Israel safe: no amount of stone throwing will make Palestine safe.

                    Until both sides commit to peace with actions as well as words nothing will change. Or you can continue as an apologist for Gush Emunim.

    • Manuka AOR 4.2

      Abby Zimet also wrote: ” A peaceful holiday season to you and yours, and a reminder: The Christian and largely untroubled world today celebrates the story of a Middle Eastern family seeking refuge, as so many families from Syria and elsewhere do today; many remain stranded in strange lands where “there is nothing here for us, just emptiness.” Fellow-humans on a spinning globe, by mere fate more blessed, we owe compassion, comfort and if possible even joy to the least among us.” http://www.commondreams.org/further/2015/12/25/least-your-brothers-and-sisters

      • Macro 4.2.1

        The Christian and largely untroubled world today celebrates the story of a Middle Eastern family seeking refuge, as so many families from Syria and elsewhere do today; many remain stranded in strange lands where “there is nothing here for us, just emptiness.

        Very True

        Which makes Christmas even more relevant today

        It is pertinent to remind ourselves that the Christian story of the birth of the illegitimate young son of a young mother forced by the state to travel (for no other reason than her husband to be was required to go to the town of his ancestors) where they were to be counted for tax purposes, occurred in a barn where the new born was placed in a cattle feeding trough because there was no where else for them to be. (akin to the many here today forced to sleep under bridges and in cars).
        The birth Christians “celebrate” is one which in reality is one of poverty, homelessness, and refuge. – which is where – if Christ is to mean anything – Christianity should always find its place.

  4. J Ryan 5

    I find it weird that such a distaste of Israel is so entrenched in some people when this country is simply defending itself against such a suppressive culture where human rights are abused, hate is preached and deep down resent western culture. Israel is a democratic, they accept gays, equal rights in a region where these issues are not tolerated. But the Liberals of the West, including NZs own make excuses for such hatred and suppression. Possibility visit Aki Muthali, Clarion Project to see one girls story, or visit http://www.honordiaries.com and get another prospective and why we need to learn to enlighten our understanding of what is really happening in the Middle East and Western society as Eastern culture spreads it’s influence.

    • Bill 5.1

      A Zionist state born from dedicated terror and still dedicated to creating terror. Can’t imagine why that would be met with any degree of distaste.

    • One Anonymous Bloke 5.2

      Weirdness and speading influence explained in pictures.

      [I replaced the URL with the one you subsequently posted – MS]

      • DH 5.2.1

        One Anonymous Bloke

        I’d ask that you didn’t link to content like that. The name of the site says it all; jew watch

        I’ve never been able to understand the old hatred, it’s depressing to be reminded that it’s just as alive and malignant as it ever was.

        • One Anonymous Bloke

          Bloody hell I hadn’t spotted the racist url: the result of a Google search for the image. Sorry.

          The image tells the story nonetheless.

          • Andre

            Doesn’t show the Golan Heights…

          • DH

            It doesn’t really, it’s just propaganda.

            The original mandate of Palestine had very large tracts of what we know as state land. It belonged to no-one as such. It could be called Palestine land, it certainly can’t be labelled Palestinian land.

            Further to that the Negev was claimed by the Bedouin, they don’t identify as Palestinian now or in times past.

            I’m of no doubt that Israel has confiscated land unfairly but that map is a dishonest fraud.

            • One Anonymous Bloke

              state land. It belonged to no-one as such.


              The map tells the story of illegal land occupation, which as you say, has indeed occurred. By an amazing coincidence, illegal land occupation has led to armed conflict in other parts of the world too.

              Perhaps this time things will be different.

              • Acrophobic

                There is only occupation because there has been Arab aggression. That’s the historical reality.

                • One Anonymous Bloke

                  There is only aggression because there has been occupation: you see how easy it is to write down vacuous drivel? No, of course you don’t: since you had to rote-learn the drivel you can’t be expected to understand it.

                  • acrophobic

                    The aggression came first. See how easy it is to explain history.

                    • Paul


                    • Your argument is that Palestinians were attacking Israelis with rocks and knives in before the modern state of Israel was created and Jews returned to occupy Palestine, their ancestral home?

                      The facts are against you.

                      And just as an aside, you do understand that Palestinians are a Semitic people right?

                    • One Anonymous Bloke

                      It’s a piss-poor explanation, which makes it easier to recruit munters like you to narrow and one-sided versions of history.

                      Please explain Albert Einstein’s opinion of Menachem Begin in the context of your rote-learned narrative.

                    • acrophobic

                      “Your argument is that Palestinians were attacking Israelis with rocks and knives in before the modern state of Israel was created and Jews returned to occupy Palestine, their ancestral home? The facts are against you”

                      What facts? Palestine was the ancestral home of the Jewish people. They were promised a home in Palestine by the Balfour Declaration and subsequent international conventions. The arab population of Palestine and surrounding areas had an opportunity to engage in the process and refused, choosing decades of violence instead. As a result, the people of Israel (Arab and Jew) have turned Palestine from a wasteland into a thriving modern democratic economy.

                      History and the facts are on Israel’s side.

                    • One Anonymous Bloke

                      Announcing that you’re “giving” land away that doesn’t belong to you doesn’t constitute an act of aggression, no sirree 🙄

                      Please explain how Balfour came by the land he promised to Rothschild.

                    • acrophobic

                      “Please explain how Balfour came by the land he promised to Rothschild.”

                      The Balfour declaration was a statement of intent by one of the eventual victors in WW1, Gt Britain. Britain controlled Palestine under UN mandate after WW1, from 1920 through 1948, and it was under this rule that the Jewish state was gradually established until declaration in 1948. Virtually every nation on the planet endorsed Israel as a new nation. Regrettably some chose war.

              • DH

                “The map tells the story of illegal land occupation, ”

                I don’t think so. The (fake) maps are just the product of the endless propaganda that spews out of both sides in that conflict.

                Personally i wish people would shut up about the place and move on. So much media time & effort is concentrated on the I/P conflict, so much bandwidth wasted, so much UN time & resources frittered away, the big human rights catastrophes around the world barely get a mention.

                • One Anonymous Bloke

                  What’s fake about the 1947 UN partition plan map? They used different colours?

                  As for the rest of your comment, I’m sure that outcome would suit one side very well indeed. Personally, I’m capable of noticing more than one human rights violation at a time.

                  • DH

                    “What’s fake about the 1947 UN partition plan map?”

                    You’ve answered your own question there. It was a plan, that pictured division of Jewish/Palestinian land never existed because the plan was never implemented.

                    • One Anonymous Bloke

                      As the Economist puts it:

                      Jews, and the Israeli state, have, in fact, seized great quantities of Palestinian land in the territory of Israel/Palestine over the past 60 years. Israelis and Americans must acknowledge this fact to make any progress towards peace, and an accurate accounting of such seizures would be very valuable. But this particular map only confuses and distorts the issue, and seems clearly designed for propaganda purposes.

                      I note you ignored my second paragraph.

                    • DH

                      “As the Economist puts it: ”

                      I fail to see where you’re going with this. The Economist supports what I’ve said here, pretty much in its entirety, so I don’t know what sort of response you’re expecting. Argument is done unless you want to dispute the Economist as well.

                      “I note you ignored my second paragraph.”

                      There was nothing there to pursue.

                    • One Anonymous Bloke

                      It’s pretty simple: the maps may not exactly match the territory in question: the story they tell (of illegal ongoing invasion of Palestinian territory) is nonetheless accurate.

                      Quibbling about the exact boundaries then ‘wishing’ people would stop drawing attention to the situation serves one side only.

            • Acrophobic


  5. Acrophobic 6

    The cartoon missed something. The missiles being fired from the ‘peaceful’ Palestinians into Israel.

    • One Anonymous Bloke 6.1

      In that case it would also have to show the tanks, planes, clusterbombs, assault rifles, and full strength of the Israeli military, and then you could put it on Facebook with the tagline “find the Palestinian weapon”, and you wouldn’t be able to see the donkey so much as play it.

      • Acrophobic 6.1.1

        Israel is a sovereign nation under attack from terrorists. The world recognises Israel’s right to defend itself. Get with the program.

        • One Anonymous Bloke

          Palestine is also a sovereign nation, albeit one getting smaller and smaller due to illegal occupations – do you pay lip service to law ‘n’ order like a craven hypocrite or are you consciously amoral?

          I note that according to the “hawks”, terrorism is on the increase. Perhaps the “hawk” position is the problem: a bunch of knuckledragging kill-freaks and fear-mongers justifying anything their amygdalas tell them to do.

          • Acrophobic

            And as a nation and a people group the Palestinians have waged a way ofaggression ever since the formation of Israel against her. They just don’t learn.

            • One Anonymous Bloke

              All your comments reveal is that you have taken sides. I expect you rote-learned these beliefs like all your other ones.

            • mickysavage

              Tell me Acrophobic does the throwing of one stone by an Arab youth justify the decimation of the Palestinian state?

              • acrophobic

                No. But who elected a terrorist organisation as their government? Palestinians. Who began bombing Israel within hours of having land returned to them in 2005? The Palestinians. I could go on, but history is on the side of Israel here. If it takes the decimation of the arab state inPalestine for them to learn to leave Israel alone,then that is what will happen.

                • Paul

                  Are Begin and Shamir Also Considered Terrorists?
                  From the end of 1937 until the middle of 1939, in less than two years, the terrorist activities of the Irgun and Lehi claimed 232 victims with another 370 wounded – men, women and children.


                • Well the Israelis can only blame themselves for that.

                  Hamas is an insanity that is the direct result of the occupation and targeted assassinations by Israel.

                  Israel also worked incredably hard to disrupt and destabilise the moderate (and often corrupt) PA.

                  And what were they thinking when they killed Arafat?
                  Not peace thats for sure.

                • One Anonymous Bloke

                  leave Israel alone,then that is what will happen. [sic]

                  So the Kurds should take larger sections of Turkey, Iraq and Syria; France and Holland are owed some Germany f’sure. Afghanistan gets some Russia, and Iraq gets some USA.

                  Why do wingnut notions always look like massively incompetent hypocrisy? Are they trying to lure people into citing Hodson & Busseri or something?

                • Draco T Bastard

                  but history is on the side of Israel here.

                  No it’s not. What usually happens to a state that starts with an injustice and then ramps it up even further is that it gets removed by those it is oppressing.

                  • acrophobic

                    Israel did not start with an injustice. It’s origins were steeped in history and international law.

                    • Draco T Bastard

                      Israel did not start with an injustice.

                      Imposing a nation on top of another nation that’s already there that had specifically said that they didn’t want that is an injustice.

                      It’s origins were steeped in history and international law.

                      It’s origins were historic – so was it’s loss. Israel hasn’t existed for 2000+ years.

                      And the imposition of Israel upon Palestine is fully against the UN charter of inviolate borders and self-determination and thus against international law. And the law actually older than that as well – it’s why Britain settled NZ via treaty in fact.

                • One Two

                  Yes slaughter them, slaughter them all and take away the innocence of the children

                  That your comments support genocide by the apartheid state of Israel is par for the course for blood lusting Talmud pedos

                  • acrophobic

                    Israel is not an apartheid state. But you’d know that if you’d ever been there.

                  • DH

                    “blood lusting Talmud pedos”

                    Take your Jew bashing elsewhere you loathsome turd.

                    Fuck you people are disgusting. Dirty fucking hypocrites, you presume to take some kind of moral high ground and you let this kind of filth go by with not a goddamned word of complaint.

                    • One Anonymous Bloke

                      you presume to take some kind of moral high ground

                      Not very high ground though is it? Being opposed to an army deployed against children. More like a no-brainer.

            • joe90

              They just don’t learn.

              Indeed, the past is a foreign country.


              “If you don’t stop throwing stones, we’ll continue killing you and we’ll gas you all, children, elders and women.. all of you are going to die”…


        • Paul

          Were these people terrorists?

          Irgun Zvai Leumi, ( Hebrew: National Military Organization) byname Etzel, Jewish right-wing underground movement in Palestine, founded in 1931. At first supported by many nonsocialist Zionist parties, in opposition to the Haganah, it became in 1936 an instrument of the Revisionist Party, an extreme nationalist group that had seceded from the World Zionist Organization and whose policies called for the use of force, if necessary, to establish a Jewish state on both sides of the Jordan.
          Irgun committed acts of terrorism and assassination against the British, whom it regarded as illegal occupiers, and it was also violently anti-Arab. Irgun participated in the organization of illegal immigration into Palestine after the publication of the British White Paper on Palestine (1939), which severely limited immigration. Irgun’s violent activities led to execution of many of its members by the British; in retaliation, Irgun executed British army hostages.
          Irgun’s members were extremely disciplined and daring, and their actions included the capture of ʿAkko (Acre) prison, a medieval fortress that not even Napoleon had succeeded in capturing. In the last days of the British mandate, it captured a large part of the city of Yafo (Jaffa).
          On July 22, 1946, Irgun blew up a wing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, killing 91 soldiers and civilians (British, Arab, and Jewish). On April 9, 1947, a group of Irgun commandos raided the Arab village of Dayr Yāsīn (modern Kefar Shaʾul), killing about 100 of its inhabitants.
          After the creation of Israel in 1948 Irgun’s last units disbanded and took the oath of loyalty to the Israel Defense Forces on September 1, 1948. Politically, it was the precursor of the Ḥerut (Freedom) Party, one of Israel’s most militant right-wing groups, which later merged with the Liberals into the Gaḥal Party.


        • Stuart Munro

          The world does nor recognise or admire the disproportionate use of force. Nor does Israel enjoy a privileged position of right – there was no high moral ground to be had in the early years of the fight. As the balance of power swung behind the new Israeli state, the responsibility to move away from the gratuitous abuse of force increasingly falls to them.


          In more recent times, Israel’s extremist leaders, especially Sharon, were certainly war criminals. But the US never met a dictator they didn’t like – from Hussein to Pinochet – which should be an obvious warning sign about the traitor John Key – they like him because he consistently betrays his country for their convenience.

  6. Morrissey 7

    Acrophobic’s bizarre, dishonest, ignorant and hate-filled posts remind me of Dame Lesley “I’ve just come back from Israel” Max.

    Open mike 17/08/2011

    • Paul 7.1

      Acrophobic has shown himself to be a virulent troll.
      Climate denial and now undying support for an apartheid state.

  7. One Two 8


    Israeli planes have reportedly sprayed chemical substances on farmlands across the besieged Gaza Strip, killing off the crops in the already impoverished Palestinian territory

    Due to the decline in production and Israel’s ban on the entry of basic commodities, Gazan farmers have resorted to the use of banned chemical substances to maximize crop yield. This poses a serious health hazard to both farmers and their consumers.

    Meanwhile, the United Nations has expressed concerns over the excessive use of toxic pesticides by Gaza farmers

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    Legislation to enable more build-to-rent developments has passed its third reading in Parliament, so this type of rental will be able to claim interest deductibility in perpetuity where it meets the requirements. Housing Minister Dr Megan Woods, says the changes will help unlock the potential of the build-to-rent sector and ...
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  • Law levels playing field for low-emissions commuting
    A law passed by Parliament today exempts employers from paying fringe benefit tax on certain low emission commuting options they provide or subsidise for their staff.  “Many employers already subsidise the commuting costs of their staff, for instance by providing car parks,” Environment Minister David Parker said.  “This move supports ...
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  • 40 years of Closer Economic Relations with Australia
    Today marks the 40th anniversary of Closer Economic Relations (CER), our gold standard free trade agreement between New Zealand and Australia. “CER was a world-leading agreement in 1983, is still world-renowned today and is emblematic of both our countries’ commitment to free trade. The WTO has called it the world’s ...
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  • Amendments to mass arrivals legislation
    The Government is making procedural changes to the Immigration Act to ensure that 2013 amendments operate as Parliament intended.   The Government is also introducing a new community management approach for asylum seekers. “While it’s unlikely we’ll experience a mass arrival due to our remote positioning, there is no doubt New ...
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  • Progress on public service pay adjustment
    The Government welcomes progress on public sector pay adjustment (PSPA) agreements, and the release of the updated public service pay guidance by the Public Service Commission today, Minister for the Public Service Andrew Little says. “More than a dozen collective agreements are now settled in the public service, Crown Agents, ...
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  • Further legislation introduced to support cyclone recovery
    The Government has introduced the Severe Weather Emergency Recovery Legislation Bill to further support the recovery and rebuild from the recent severe weather events in the North Island. “We know from our experiences following the Canterbury and Kaikōura earthquakes that it will take some time before we completely understand the ...
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  • Duty relief for cyclone-affected businesses
    Further assistance is now available to businesses impacted by Cyclone Gabrielle, with Customs able to offer payment plans and to remit late-payments, Customs Minister Meka Whaitiri has announced. “This is part of the Government’s ongoing commitment to assist economic recovery in the regions,” Meka Whaitiri said. “Cabinet has approved the ...
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  • Thousands of sole parents to be better off after child support changes
    More than 41,000 sole parent families will be better off with a median gain of $20 a week Law change estimated to help lift up to 14,000 children out of poverty Child support payments will be passed on directly to people receiving a sole parent rate of main benefit, making ...
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  • Green investment fund delivers on climate action
    A major investment by Government-owned New Zealand Green Investment Finance towards electrifying the public bus fleet is being welcomed by Climate Change Minister James Shaw. “Today’s announcement that NZGIF has signed a $50 million financing deal with Kinetic, the biggest bus operator in Australasia, to further decarbonise public transport is ...
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  • Tax credit boosts cash flow for Kiwi innovators
    A world-leading payments system is expected to provide a significant cash flow boost for Kiwi innovators, Minister of Research, Science, and Innovation Ayesha Verrall says. Announcing that applications for ‘in-year’ payments of the Research and Development Tax Incentive (RDTI) were open, Ayesha Verrall said it represented a win for businesses ...
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  • Te Awa shared path completed
    Minister of Transport Michael Wood joined crowds of keen cyclists and walkers this morning to celebrate the completion of the Te Awa shared path in Hamilton. “The Government is upgrading New Zealand’s transport system to make it safer, greener, and more efficient for now and future generations to come,” Michael ...
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  • Crown apology to Ngāti Kahungunu ki Wairarapa Tāmaki nui-a-Rua
    Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations Minister Andrew Little has delivered the Crown apology to Ngāti Kahungunu ki Wairarapa Tāmaki nui-a-Rua for its historic breaches of Te Tiriti of Waitangi today. The ceremony was held at Queen Elizabeth Park in Masterton, hosted by Ngāti Kahungunu ki Wairarapa Tāmaki nui-a-Rua, with several hundred ...
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  • Minister of Foreign Affairs meets with Chinese counterpart
    Minister of Foreign Affairs Nanaia Mahuta has concluded her visit to China, the first by a New Zealand Foreign Minister since 2018. The Minister met her counterpart, newly appointed State Councilor and Minister of Foreign Affairs, Qin Gang, who also hosted a working dinner. This was the first engagement between the two ...
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  • Government delivering world-class satellite positioning services
    World-class satellite positioning services that will support much safer search and rescue, boost precision farming, and help safety on construction sites through greater accuracy are a significant step closer today, says Land Information Minister Damien O’Connor. Damien O’Connor marked the start of construction on New Zealand’s first uplink centre for ...
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  • District Court Judges appointed
    Attorney-General David Parker has announced the appointment of Christopher John Dellabarca of Wellington, Dr Katie Jane Elkin of Wellington, Caroline Mary Hickman of Napier, Ngaroma Tahana of Rotorua, Tania Rose Williams Blyth of Hamilton and Nicola Jan Wills of Wellington as District Court Judges.  Chris Dellabarca Mr Dellabarca commenced his ...
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  • Notes of an address to the Environmental Defence Society Conference, Auckland
    Tēnā koutou katoa. Can I begin by thanking Gary Taylor, Raewyn Peart and others in the EDS team for their herculean work in support of the environment. I’d also like to acknowledge Hon Simon Upton, Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment, my parliamentary colleagues, and the many activists here who strive ...
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  • New project set to supercharge ocean economy in Nelson Tasman
    A new Government-backed project will help ocean-related businesses in the Nelson Tasman region to accelerate their growth and boost jobs. “The Nelson Tasman region is home to more than 400 blue economy businesses, accounting for more than 30 percent of New Zealand’s economic activity in fishing, aquaculture, and seafood processing,” ...
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  • National’s education policy: where’s the funding?
    After three years of COVID-19 disruptions schools are finally settling down and National want to throw that all in the air with major disruption to learning and underinvestment.  “National’s education policy lacks the very thing teachers, parents and students need after a tough couple of years, certainty and stability,” Education ...
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  • Free programme to help older entrepreneurs and inventors
    People aged over 50 with innovative business ideas will now be able to receive support to advance their ideas to the next stage of development, Minister for Seniors Ginny Andersen said today. “Seniors have some great entrepreneurial ideas, and this programme will give them the support to take that next ...
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  • Government target increased to keep powering up the Māori economy
    A cross government target for relevant government procurement contracts for goods and services to be awarded to Māori businesses annually will increase to 8%, after the initial 5% target was exceeded. The progressive procurement policy was introduced in 2020 to increase supplier diversity, starting with Māori businesses, for the estimated ...
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  • Continued progress on reducing poverty in challenging times
    77,000 fewer children living in low income households on the after-housing-costs primary measure since Labour took office Eight of the nine child poverty measures have seen a statistically significant reduction since 2018. All nine have reduced 28,700 fewer children experiencing material hardship since 2018 Measures taken by the Government during ...
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  • Speech at Fiji Investment and Trade Business Forum
    Deputy Prime Minister Kamikamica; distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen. Tēnā koutou katoa, ni sa bula vinaka saka, namaste. Deputy Prime Minister, a very warm welcome to Aotearoa. I trust you have been enjoying your time here and thank you for joining us here today. To all delegates who have travelled to be ...
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  • Government investments boost and diversify local economies in lower South Island
    $2.9 million convertible loan for Scapegrace Distillery to meet growing national and international demand $4.5m underwrite to support Silverlight Studios’ project to establish a film studio in Wanaka Gore’s James Cumming Community Centre and Library to be official opened tomorrow with support of $3m from the COVID-19 Response and Recovery ...
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  • Pasifka Futures Whānau Ora Conference
    [CHECK AGAINST DELIVERY]  E ngā mana, e ngā reo, e ngā tangata katoa, o moana-nui-a-kiwa, E ngā mate, haere, haere, haere atū ra, manuia lau Malaga. Thank you for the kind introduction and opportunity to join you this morning. It is always good to be here in Aukilani, where I ...
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  • Alzheimers New Zealand conference – Opening Address
    E nga mana, e nga reo, e nga iwi, tēnā koutou katoa. Talofa lava and thank you Catherine, for the warm welcome. I’m sorry that I can’t be there in person today but it’s great for the opportunity to contribute virtually.  I’d like to start by acknowledging: Alzheimers New Zealand, ...
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  • Government future-proofs EV charging
    Transport Minister Michael Wood has today launched the first national EV (electric vehicle) charging strategy, Charging Our Future, which includes plans to provide EV charging stations in almost every town in New Zealand. “Our vision is for Aotearoa New Zealand to have world-class EV charging infrastructure that is accessible, affordable, ...
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  • World-leading family harm prevention campaign supports young NZers
    Associate Minister for Social Development and Employment Priyanca Radhakrishnan has today launched the Love Better campaign in a world-leading approach to family harm prevention. Love Better will initially support young people through their experience of break-ups, developing positive and life-long attitudes to dealing with hurt. “Over 1,200 young kiwis told ...
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  • First Chief Clinical Advisor welcomed into Coroners Court
    Hon Rino Tirikatene, Minister for Courts, welcomes the Ministry of Justice’s appointment of Dr Garry Clearwater as New Zealand’s first Chief Clinical Advisor working with the Coroners Court. “This appointment is significant for the Coroners Court and New Zealand’s wider coronial system.” Minister Tirikatene said. Through Budget 2022, the Government ...
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  • Next steps for affected properties post Cyclone and floods
    The Government via the Cyclone Taskforce is working with local government and insurance companies to build a picture of high-risk areas following Cyclone Gabrielle and January floods. “The Taskforce, led by Sir Brian Roche, has been working with insurance companies to undertake an assessment of high-risk areas so we can ...
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  • New appointment to Māori Land Court bench
    E te huia kaimanawa, ko Ngāpuhi e whakahari ana i tau aupikinga ki te tihi o te maunga. Ko te Ao Māori hoki e whakanui ana i a koe te whakaihu waka o te reo Māori i roto i te Ao Ture. (To the prized treasure, it is Ngāpuhi who ...
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  • Government focus on jobs sees record number of New Zealanders move from Benefits into work
    113,400 exits into work in the year to June 2022 Young people are moving off Benefit faster than after the Global Financial Crisis Two reports released today by the Ministry of Social Development show the Government’s investment in the COVID-19 response helped drive record numbers of people off Benefits and ...
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  • Vertical farming partnership has upward momentum
    The Government’s priority to keep New Zealand at the cutting edge of food production and lift our sustainability credentials continues by backing the next steps of a hi-tech vertical farming venture that uses up to 95 per cent less water, is climate resilient, and pesticide-free. Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor visited ...
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  • Conference of Pacific Education Ministers – Keynote Address
    E nga mana, e nga iwi, e nga reo, e nga hau e wha, tena koutou, tena koutou, tena koutou kātoa. Warm Pacific greetings to all. It is an honour to host the inaugural Conference of Pacific Education Ministers here in Tāmaki Makaurau. Aotearoa is delighted to be hosting you ...
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  • New $13m renal unit supports Taranaki patients
    The new renal unit at Taranaki Base Hospital has been officially opened by the Minister of Health Dr Ayesha Verrall this afternoon. Te Huhi Raupō received around $13 million in government funding as part of Project Maunga Stage 2, the redevelopment of the Taranaki Base Hospital campus. “It’s an honour ...
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  • Second Poseidon aircraft on home soil
    Defence Minister Andrew Little has marked the arrival of the country’s second P-8A Poseidon aircraft alongside personnel at the Royal New Zealand Air Force’s Base at Ohakea today. “With two of the four P-8A Poseidons now on home soil this marks another significant milestone in the Government’s historic investment in ...
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  • Further humanitarian aid for Türkiye and Syria
    Aotearoa New Zealand will provide further humanitarian support to those seriously affected by last month’s deadly earthquakes in Türkiye and Syria, says Foreign Minister Nanaia Mahuta. “The 6 February earthquakes have had devastating consequences, with almost 18 million people affected. More than 53,000 people have died and tens of thousands more ...
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  • Community voice to help shape immigration policy
    Migrant communities across New Zealand are represented in the new Migrant Community Reference Group that will help shape immigration policy going forward, Immigration Minister Michael Wood announced today.  “Since becoming Minister, a reoccurring message I have heard from migrants is the feeling their voice has often been missing around policy ...
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  • State Highway 3 project to deliver safer journeys, better travel connections for Taranaki
    Construction has begun on major works that will deliver significant safety improvements on State Highway 3 from Waitara to Bell Block, Associate Minister of Transport Kiri Allan announced today. “This is an important route for communities, freight and visitors to Taranaki but too many people have lost their lives or ...
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  • Ginny Andersen appointed as Minister of Police
    Prime Minister Chris Hipkins has today appointed Ginny Andersen as Minister of Police. “Ginny Andersen has a strong and relevant background in this important portfolio,” Chris Hipkins said. “Ginny Andersen worked for the Police as a non-sworn staff member for around 10 years and has more recently been chair of ...
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  • Government confirms vital roading reconnections
    Six further bailey bridge sites confirmed Four additional bridge sites under consideration 91 per cent of damaged state highways reopened Recovery Dashboards for impacted regions released The Government has responded quickly to restore lifeline routes after Cyclone Gabrielle and can today confirm that an additional six bailey bridges will ...
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