BoJo plot foiled – for the time being

Written By: - Date published: 1:47 am, September 12th, 2019 - 57 comments
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Phil Syrpis, Professor of EU Law at Bristol University, tweeted in July  Johnson’s plan to force a general election as the defender of the people’s decision against the UK Parliament’s indecision and Brussels bureaucratic intransigence and be in power for the next five years. It was rumbled and it failed.

The twitter thread is here. Quite a remarkable piece of political forecasting. It makes sense of Jacob Rees-Mogg’s open contempt of Parliament, goading his Conservative colleagues into the desired voting against Johnson.

Now the Brexit ball is back in Johnson’s court, with very little time and very few options. Either go to the European Union on 17th October with a new deal, which cannot be too far from the one already rejected by the Parliament, or crash out of Europe on the 31st October and face the consequences of that.

Parliament has demanded the production of the so-called Yellowhammer report which details the likely effects of ‘no deal’, and the government is dragging its feet. Revocation is not an impossibility.

Any election before 2022 will now be held against the backdrop of Brexit reality not Brexit promise. It will be fought on the old grounds of austerity versus social and economic development. Johnson is carrying on with the strategy by campaigning on the areas where the Tories are weak – schools, hospitals and the police.

The Johnson plan of a deregulated nirvana is out of the window. The timing advantage has shifted to the opposition parties, who are showing encouraging signs of being able to work with each other.

Expect the polls to shift.

57 comments on “BoJo plot foiled – for the time being”

  1. Sanctuary 1

    "…Revocation is not an impossibility…"

    Don't fall into the trap of believing the hard remain liberal impossibilism.

    The perogation business is merely a procedural pantomime that changes nothing. The main UK parties all hold their conferences now anyway, so no one will even be in Westminster until the middle of the first week of October.

    The ONLY practical way there will be an extension (let alone a second referendum or a soft Brexit) is for the Labour plan of caretaker government to be installed under Jeremy Corbyn to a) get an extension and then b) hold an election. This won't happen, because the Liberal-Democrats (the party of the managerial class who are material winners from neoliberalism) see Corbynism as an existential threat and I can't see them backing such a plan.

    Jo Swinson has already shown she has all the the hard remainers lack of sense of their limitations and therefore walks easily into the traps laid for her. Labour wouldn't mind the Lib-Dems getting the blame for a no deal Brexit and Boris Johnson being in charge for the ensuing economic downturn.

    Labour's plan all along has been to be the last reasonable person in the room, and to turn the tables on the disaster capitalists of the UKIP Tories.

    • Andre 1.1

      Have I got this right? Labour's plan all along has been to swoop in to take charge of the charred remains after doing nothing to stop Boorish and pals burning the village? And the doing nothing bit is to ensure Boorish et al take the full  blame for the conflagration?

      Inspiring.

      • Sanctuary 1.1.1

        No, as I see it Labour's plan is to try and unite the country.

        • alwyn 1.1.1.1

          I'm afraid the only uniting of the country that Corbyn seems to have achieved is the increasing dislike of the Labour Party, and of him as a prospective leader.

          The last election in Britain was in June 2017. Since then the Labour Party has shown a steady decline in popularity.

          In the second half of 2017 they polled in the low to mid 40's

          In the first half of 2018 they polled in the high 30's to the low 40's.

          In the second half of 2018 they polled in the mid to high 30's.

          In the first half of 2019 they polled in the mid 30's.

          Now, in the second half of 2019 they are pretty consistently in the mid 20's.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election#2018

          Oh dear, so sad, never mind.

      • Nic the NZer 1.1.2

        Labour's plan all along has been to swoop in to take charge of the charred remains after doing nothing to stop Boorish and pals burning the village?

        Hyperbolic much?

        • Sanctuary 1.1.2.1

          The sudden realisation that Jeremy Corbyn – the man who the liberal Oxbridge elite has, in lockstep with the far-right press, spent the last four years smearing in the most vicious ways imaginable – is now the last, best hope of avoiding a hard Brexit has led to a hilarious deluge of panicked rehabilitation opinion pieces in papers like the Guardian.

          The biggest winner from Jeremy Corbyn being made even a temporary PM will be Corbyn himself. If he is PM even for only ten weeks and the STASI don't come for your pet bunny rabbits, then the idea of him being PM for good will get a giant boost.

          • weka 1.1.2.1.1

            something good to come from Brexit then.

            • JohnP 1.1.2.1.1.1

              Labour's Deputy Leader gave a speech on Wednesday which directly contradicted the entire Labour policy on Brexit.  Instead of the policy which says Election, then Referendum – Watson was demanding Referendum, then Election. The only issue was 1. that would require a SEVEN MONTH caretaker Government 2. there is no pathway to that ever happening.

              Corbyn, to his credit has said publicly "I don't agree with Tom, our policy doesn't agree with Tom, we're not doing that"

              Tom Watson has kept doing this, coming out and deliberately using his media weight to contradict the leadership and agreed party policy – but his role as Deputy Leader means Corbyn can't remove him like he did to other Shadow Cabinet members who deliberately went against the party's own policy.

              It's curious he's done it now, when Labour have had their best week in terms of looking like a serious Government in waiting.

              But if you consider that to the Labour Right and Liberal Democrats, Corbyn being Prime Minister for any length of time at all completelty explodes their myth that 'he's not Prime Ministerial' then Watson's attempts and Swinson's entirely purposeful attempts to avoid agreeing with Labour, even when Labour have made concessions to their policy – they suddenly make sense.

              With Johnson as PM, Corbyn suddenly doesn't seem such a bad option – which utterly terrifies them. They're willing to sail as close to No Deal as they can, and wreck Labour's election chances, to stop him getting into power.

              If he’s Prime Minister for any time, they can’t say he ‘isn’t Prime Ministerial’.

               

              • alwyn

                "If he’s Prime Minister for any time, they can’t say he ‘isn’t Prime Ministerial’."

                Does that mean that you regard Boris as being "Prime Ministerial material".

                Personally I would consider him to be a dolt.

      • JohnP 1.1.3

        Labour's plan has been a series of decisions, if and when the situation develops. Kier Starmer – who is hardly a Marxist – wrote the updated policy last conference – it was…

        a) get a good deal (May's deal wasn't good and Labour KNEW that from the off, it was never going to pass in the House of Commons)

        b) if no a) stop No Deal from happening

        c) if no a) but b) is sorted then General Election to change parliamentary arithmetic and try and break deadlock

        d) if b) and c) leads to Labour majority/coalition then Second Referendum – Labour negotiated Brexit vs Remain – Labour MPs could campaign on either side of it

        e) Respect and implement result of the second referendum

        • Andre 1.1.3.1

          Well, that should lock down the vote from lawyers, logic puzzle aficionados, and Heath Robinson fans. Doesn't give anybody else much of a clue what result supporting Labour is likely to achieve.

          • JohnP 1.1.3.1.1

            Brexit is a logic puzzle, and one that's completely broken UK politics for three years. A simple answer isn't going to work, isn't that obvious by now?

            Well, we're at point b) now – and if the legislation prevents Johnson going for No Deal on October 31st by requesting an extension on October 17th, given it's unlikely he will strike a deal with the EU, then there will be a General Election in November.

            The choices at that election are pretty simple…

            Tories: No Deal

            Lib Dems: Revoke Article 50, but only if they win a majority (which they won't) at which point they revert to a Second Referendum – No Deal vs Remain (!!!)

            Labour: Second Referendum – Labour's Deal vs Remain
            If you charge into an election promising a RESULT either one way or the other, then you’re absolutely going to hack off around 52/48% of the country which will explode your campaign. Changing the number of MPs in the house will bring about a result though, because right now there’s no majority for No Deal or a Referendum.

            The pathway's pretty simple, but the arithmetic is difficult because the Lib Dems – literally two days ago – shifted from Second Referendum to No Article 50 purely because there's an election coming. If that swings Lab/Tory seats to the Tories, then it makes No Deal more likely. If it drives Lib Dem voters away from them in Lib/Tory seats, then again, more Tories and fewer Lib Dem MPs.

            • Dukeofurl 1.1.3.1.1.1

              The No deal legislation is more of an 'exchange of letters' for an extension.

              Typically more muddled thinking on  the whole Brexit saga.

              Whats more interesting is the whole slab of Tories who no longer have the whip or have defected to Lib Dems has made the DUP of Northern Ireland irrelevant.  They were once the small bridge that May could use to get legislation passed with her slim majority.

              Johnson is technically a  minority PM who has no need for  finely crafted  vote buying deals with the DUP.

              Coming back into  discussion is the 'Irish Sea' border deal where the  North- South backstop is irrelevant –

              Britain is no longer  inside the EU customs area after the Brexit but Northern Ireland is  as a 'temporary arrangement'

              • Dukeofurl

                Frustratingly difficult to  find an  official text of the  so called no deal Act  or as its formally known 

                European Union ( Withdrawal) No 6  

                https://services.parliament.uk/Bills/2017-19/europeanunionwithdrawalno6.html

                 

              • Treetop

                Please provide a link for the temporary arrangement with Northern Ireland.

                I think a different exit date for Northern Ireland leaving the EU is a winner. At least a different exit date is not a big distracton and it just may calm the waters.

                • Dukeofurl

                  Just look up Irish Sea 'border'.

                  May rejected it because she depended on DUP for a stable majority…now Johnson is deep into minority they dont matter any more.

                  • Treetop

                    DUP wanted to exit but Northern Ireland population wanted to stay in EU.

                    Even that wasn't sorted. The irony is that no one knows what the outcome of an election or another referendum would be.

                    So you can only work with what you have.

                    1. To Brexit based on a referendum.

                    2. Do a hard Brexit on 31 October. Trick or treat as Halloween.

                    3. And to brace oneself that the troubles do not return to the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland.

            • weka 1.1.3.1.1.2

              "shifted from Second Referendum to No Article 50"

              What happens with No Article 50?

              • JohnP

                Basically they're gonna try and get their Brexit policy changed at Conference to straight up revoking Article 50, which they will campaign on in the upcoming election.

                Given they've spent two years campaigning for a second referendum, now Labour also backs one, they've shifted to an even harder remain position – one with no public vote.

                It would provide Johnson the No Deal vs Hard Remain election he wants, and probably unite all those who voted for Brexit as it would be portrayed as a betrayal of the 2016 referendum.

                Interestingly, as I said, they also have said they would Revoke Article 50 if they WON an election. Lib Dems won't win 326 seats. Their position if they don't win a majority is to go back to a Second Referendum. 

                So essentially, this is all just posturing for an election – but posturing that could impact Lab/Tory marginals or Lib/Tory marginals – which is not good if you wanted to have a second referendum.

                • Dukeofurl

                   2nd Referendum was just a gimmick/revote  to get Article 50 revoked and remain.

                  Now that  2nd referendum or as they called it – peoples Vote- is off the table for good they are revealing the real aim . Remain

                  • JohnP

                    For the Liberal Democrats, agreed. Labour absolutely want that Second Referendum, and have been slated by People's Vote for not demanding it in the way the LD's did. Hilariously the People's Vote lot are now furious with the LD's for shifting to Hard Remain, because now they've got to support Labour, who they've spent three years attacking for not wanting a Second Referendum – even when they have.

        • soddenleaf 1.1.3.2

          lol. Colonial media mogul appealed to by brexit referendum… …foolish Tory party make it a election platform. ha! joys of joys, Tories exposed for the anti globalist destroyers of the UK economy.

      • AB 1.1.4

        Labour's approach seems to be:

        1.) Respect the referendum so as not to fall victim to a "people vs parliament" framing. Also because a fair chunk of Labour supporters voted leave.

        2.) Block a 'no deal' because arguably it's not what the referendum result intended. But principally because it's cover for the Tories' far-right wet dream of a bonfire of regulations and creating a Singapore in the North Atlantic (something that would mean  misery for Labour's constituency)

        3.) Therefore (due to 1 and 2) try to negotiate a better deal and put it to the public via a second referendum against a Remain option.

        It is logical and principled – but the perception of it is confounded by  pervasive and deranged anti-Corbynism.. There is a severe  practical difficulty though – whether any acceptable deal (one that will pass in parliament) can now be negotiated with the EU. If not, then No Deal or Remain are the only options. No Deal of course inevitably turns into a Deal – probably an exceptionally bad one made on the fly as everyone panics and wants to stop the chaos asap.

        • weka 1.1.4.1

          thanks for that clear explanation.

        • SPC 1.1.4.2

          The seem to want an election before holding a referendum. 

          • JohnP 1.1.4.2.1

            There's no majority, currently, for a referendum. An election will resolve that.

            • SPC 1.1.4.2.1.1

              How would an election resolve that? 

              The Tories win and there is a no deal Brexit.

              In what world do Labour form a majority and decide anything? They would need the same partners as in the current parliament to agree on holding a referendum.

              • JohnP

                An election would give the Opposition parties an obvious mandate for what to do next. Right now they're stuck in a weird zone where most party's positions have significantly shifted from the 2017 election – Tories are No Deal, Lib Dems are Revoke Article 50, Labour are 2nd Referendum, SNP are 2nd Referendum.

                Tories likely to lose at least 10 of their 13 Scotland seats in an election. There's LD/Tory marginals in play, and the Tory vote does tend to break LD rather than Labour. Tory/Labour marginals may also be in play if LD voters decide a 2nd Referendum appeals more than Revoke Article 50. Then there's the Rebels, some of whom may retain their seats, and the Labour breakaway lot who are absolutely going to lose their seats and add to Labour's total.

                That’s before you get to Farage, who the Tories have rebuffed firmly today. If they don’t do a deal, then the Brexit party is gonna eat a lot of Tory votes up in marginals – which is good news for the Opposition parties as well.

                The idea of a caretaker govt is lovely, and has been proposed by Labour – but the Lib Dems have outright refused to do it. Also a Government led by a grandee for seven months while they sort out a Referendum is going to be absolute bloody meat and drink to the Tories and the Brexit Party.

                If there's a GE, the Tories might win.

                But if there isn't, then they're absolutely going to do a No Deal Brexit.

                If the Opposition Parties campaign on their approaches to Brexit, in comparison to the Tories – then the electoral result should break the parliamentary deadlock – or at least convince the LD’s that Corbyn as PM isn’t the apocalypse.

                • Dukeofurl

                  "Tories are No Deal," really?

                  Check what Johnson campaigned  on  for the leadership -it was (revised) Brexit Deal.

                  No deal is his bargaining position to get EU to shift from  "No Revised Deal'"  – the pain will be felt on both sides, but especially by  ( Northern) France , Ireland , Parts of Germany ( who are in a recession ) Denmark , Netherlands

                   

                   

                  • JohnP

                    He wants no hard border between Eire and N.I but he's also ruled out a N.I only backstop (literally today, he's said that) and his own resigning Ministers have clearly stated that Johnson does not have a proposal that solves the problems he wishes to address – and the E.U have said that it is down to him to propose something better than the backstop that May agreed to. He has five weeks to find a solution to the problem and present it. 

                     

                     

                    • Dukeofurl

                      Thats the EU line – its down to him

                      UK has already come up with soft border proposals  but Ireland and EU has rejected them.

                      Then they throw in the Good Friday Agreement – another red heering- as it goes on for pages about minutiae of  Stormont assembly and the NI Police Force , but crucially barely mentions the border , other than removing security  checkpoints. ( I CHECKED !)

                      Irish citizens have free entry   and work rights in UK since 1922 and that wont chaNGE

  2. JohnP 2

    Yellowhammer is out and, hoo boy, No Deal is baaaaaad

    Here's the bad news.

    Fuel shortages, refinerys closing down.

    Delays at all ports.

    Food shortages.

    Unrest in Northern Ireland.

    Medicine shortages.

    Basically, everything that everyone's been saying will happen and being dismissed by the Tories.

    Edit: Even more hilarious is that the difference between this copy of Yellowhammer and the one that was leaked at the start of August and dismissed by the Tories as ‘out of date’ and incorrect is…

    The title. They changed the heading from BASE SCENARIO to HMG Reasonable Worst Case Planning Assumptions. That’s it.

    These Tories really are a pack of useless ****’s.

    • Dukeofurl 2.1

      project Fear said all the same stuff. Why would refinerys need to close down. Britain has its own  tanker berths and the crude oil comes from outside the EU anyway.

      Not the Tories fault per se. The House of Commons couldnt pass the May 'EU deal', nor any other combination

      No deal – failed

      Deal  -failed

      Remain- failed

      • JohnP 2.1.1

        Here's the actual text Duke, so you can see why…

        “15. Facing EU tariffs makes petrol exports to the EU uncompetitive. Industry had plans to mitigate the impact on refinery margins and profitability but UK Government policy to set petrol import tariffs at 0% inadvertently undermines these plans. This leads to significant financial losses and announcement of two refinery closures (and transition to import terminals) and direct job losses (about 2000). Resulting strike action at refineries would lead to disruptions to fuel availability for 1-2 weeks in the regions directly supplied by the refineries.”

        So the refineries would lose, immediately, their market for refining and exporting petrol to the EU which has the knock-on effect of closing those refinieries which also supply the UK market.

        • weka 2.1.1.1

          why would the industry not adapt around a smaller market (i.e. UK only)? Or failing that, the govt nationalises the ones the UK needs.

          • JohnP 2.1.1.1.1

            It would, but to do so it would need to close a couple of refineries.

            Nationalising one though? Under the Tories. Unlikely.

            • weka 2.1.1.1.1.1

              So the fuel shortages would be short term? Nothing catastrophic?

               

              • JohnP

                Catastrophic if you're one of the 2,000 workers who get the boot, or you're involved in the supply chain to the continent – but overcomeable, sort of – there's also the question of importation/tariffs on petrol from the EU etc.

                • weka

                  I'm thinking catastrophic is the UK economy collapsing and people starving. Or there not being enough fuel for essential services because the refineries have closed.

                  What's the question of importation/tariffs on petrol from the EU etc?

                • Dukeofurl

                  Where is EU going to get that shortfall of Petroleum products from

                  in 2018 it was £21 bill from UK. Dont know what the share of stuff from a refinery was compared to crude oil. Norway is only  other main EU supplier ( even though not totally in EU)

                  Are they going to get it out of thin air , or import from elsewhere and pay much higher transport charges ..

                  Me thinks  it will take some time before they stop buying 21 billion pound of petroleum products (mostly crude oil?)

                   

                  Interesting that there is a thing called

                  2.1 The Rotterdam effect
                  All of these figures do not account for what is known as the Rotterdam effect – this is the theory that the UK’s trade with the Netherlands is artificially inflated owing to goods being dispatched to or arriving from the port of Rotterdam, even if the original source or eventual destination country is elsewhere.
                  This will also have a potential knock-on effect, as some trade recorded with the Netherlands, and thus the EU, may ultimately be with non-EU countries.

                  https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-7851/CBP-7851.pdf

                  • Gosman

                    I presume there will still be trade between the EU and the UK after a no deal brexit. It won't just stop. However it will be heavily constrained by the extra regulations that it will face. This will cause severe issues.

                  • weka

                    fine opportunity to wean themselves off oil.

  3. Dukeofurl 3

    so Phil Syrpis is hard core remainer who doesnt even believe in Brexit , just like a loyal EU acolyte  would.

    His choice is the  soi disant Peoples Vote

    Whats this 'Rees Mogg open contempt of parliament'…..all governments work like that…maybe some people could  knock the stars out of their eyes that its some  wonderful  assembly of the great and the good. Most are party hacks, careerists and non -entities, not all that different to Johnson himself.

    a post linking to Phil Syrpis is the classic bubble chamber in action

  4. Wayne 4

    Based on what Corbyn himself has said (not necessarily to be relied on) there will be an election in late November. That is because the new Act requires Boris to write to the EU for an extension of the withdrawal date to January. As I understand it, that is all it does, it postpones (if the EU agrees) the UK withdrawal till January. Which doesn't actually solve very much.

    A No Deal Brexit, or a Deal Brexit would happen then. Though going by history it won't. Under the current UK parliament, all that would happen is a request for a further extension. Presumably at some point the EU will tire of continuing requests for extensions.

    So therefore any election before the end of the year will be all about Brexit. There may be other issues, but it will be Brexit that will be on the voters minds.

    So will there be an election before Christmas? Probably, since the current parliament is unsustainable. I can't see the Tory rebels agreeing to Jeremy being the PM for any length of time, but in the current state of British politics who knows? I can certainly see that they would for up to six months, to get past January. Would Jeremy be able to negotiate a new deal that would get through parliament? Unlikely, given that the current parliament has never been able to agree on any specific deal.

    All in all, my bet is on an election prior to Christmas, at the absolute latest, in February. Who will win? At the moment not easy to say. Most probably Boris with a greater number of MP's. But there are any number of circumstances that will stop that. Farange for instance. A surge to the Lib Dems. A late surge to Corbyn.

  5. SPC 5

    Parliament should form a new government for the sole purpose of resolving the Brexit matter and then getting this deal confirmed by a referendum vote (given there is no confidence in the Tory government realising this). 

    A Tory rebel or former Labour MP as acting PM, not the leader of either Labour or LD. 

    The only deal the LD and Labour could agree on is staying in the customs union and single market, or a bespoke negotiated deal that is very similar to this in all but name.

    Once this is done, power should be handed back to the Tory DUP coalition. 

    They would be unable to do a FTA with Trump (who is set on destroying the WTO and subjugating nations to a neo-imperialism via bi-lateral deals), they would be unable to change legislation in breach of single market rules, their wet dreams over ….

    An election in 2022 as planned.

    • Gosman 5.1

      That would work if UK Labour would stop insisting Corbyn should be PM in any temporary caretaker government.

    • Dukeofurl 5.2

      Tory DUP coalition. /
      doesnt exist. 

      DUP were only confidence , maybe not even supply agreement.  They are an impossible party to deal with.

      Anyway events have moved on ,  even if DUP  were  Boris lap dogs , cant really govern.

      Thats why he wants an election if if an special deal with EU is worked out and they leave  with  mwah mwah to  and from EU

  6. Expect the polls to shift.

    Sure they will, they always do, but in regards to this article and your expected swing to the opposition, how about you give some predictions so the worth of your political nous can be assessed to a time frame.

  7. joe90 7

      tl.dr; Johnson's backers are taking a punt on him jiggering the British economy.

     

    Invested in a No-Deal BrexitSo, how much are these firms set to make from Boris Johnson’s ‘do or die’ approach to Brexit?

    From the financial data publicly available, Byline Times can reveal that currently £4,563,350,000 (£4.6 billion) of aggregate short positions on a ‘no deal’ Brexit have been taken out by hedge funds that directly or indirectly bankrolled Boris Johnson’s leadership campaign. 

    Most of these firms also donated to Vote Leave and took out short positions on the EU Referendum result. The ones which didn’t typically didn’t exist at that time but are invariably connected via directorships to companies that did. 

    https://bylinetimes.com/2019/09/11/brexit-disaster-capitalism-8-billion-bet-on-no-deal-crash-out-by-boris-johnsons-leave-backers/

  8. Dukeofurl 8

    And you believe these sorts of fake news sites ?

    That sort of speculation would happen no matter who was PM…..betting pound will rise ..short it. betting Pound will fall…short it.

    For every position that is short there is another that is long ..often the same firms as they profit  on the arbitrage between the two.

    looking at the list of donors  wheres the  smoking gun.?

  9. Gosman 9

    If UK Labour had a half way decent leader they should be 20 points clear. Corbyn has tied himself and the party in knots over Brexit that noone knows what they really stand for. This coupled with his far left image is why they are languishing in the polls. I expect the opposition bloc to pick up support in the event of a delay (almost inevitable) in Brexit past 31 st October but I suspect that much of the increased support will go to the Lib Dems. The election is likely going to lead to another hung Parliament but this time it will be almost impossible to form a government for anybody. The only way out as far as I can see is another referendum.

  10. Colin 10

    The majority in the UK do not want an anti Semitic, Hamas loving, IRA Bombing supporter ( Birmingham 1974. 21 Deaths. 182 injured )  who Flip Flops on Brexit, who is not popular within his own Party, Left of Left, & would be a complete Disaster in theTop Job.

    • Dukeofurl 10.1

      Labour vote increased 9% in  last general election with Corbyn as leader.

      There hasnt been a government elected in Uk with a majority – 50% of the vote since the 1930s  ( close in the late 50s)

      https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Popular_vote.jpg/750px-Popular_vote.jpg

      • Gosman 10.1.1

        This was when Corbyn was largely untested in UK Politics as leader. He campaigned very well and May was terrible. This time around Corbyn will face a populist not a apparatchik.

        • Dukeofurl 10.1.1.1

          Isnt that what election campaigns do – test someone as a leader for  a period and then the voters decide?

          It seems that May jumped at the chance  to  take on Corbyn because of his  low popularity in the polls but the Labour  voters thought different.

          As for May   being terrible'  ?

          Tory vote increased ( on a larger base) by 5.5% as well ( over Camerons)-that would normally be  a triumph,  except Corbyn did better

          Again the voters disagreed with you

          There is no reasoning to your claims at all. Both improved their partys vote .
          Just face it you dont like either and thats really your view but isnt supported by the voters come election time

      • The Al1en 10.1.2

        Yeah, up from Ed Miliband's 30.4% in 2015 to 40% against May's 42.4% in '17.

        Now Corbyn has 'led' the party to 20-23% against the worst, most divided conservative party in living memory. Some achievement.

        I can’t see how he gets those voters back, even if Borris eats a baby live on TV, any lost tory brexit votes immediately switch to Farrage, remain votes go Lib Dem.

        • Dukeofurl 10.1.2.1

          Brexit divides both partys.  To be honest, the nuances only  matter to a political class.

          This great leader idea is so 1930s. The best Thatcher could have over Labour was 42-27%
          after Falklands and that was long before  politics fractured   and wasnt  just two main parties

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    The Herald has a story today about the 400 MW of wind power currently under construction. Good news, right? Except that none of it is being driven by policy (instead, its about replacing Contact Energy's Taranaki Combined Cycle gas-fired power plant, due to shut down in 2022), and most of ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 day ago
  • Protect The King!
    To Protect and Serve: When the Prime Minister finds herself enmeshed in the coils of a full-blown political scandal, her colleagues and party comrades have only one priority: to release her as swiftly – and with as little lasting injury – as possible. Is this what Jacinda Ardern’s colleagues and ...
    1 day ago
  • The rot at the top.
    When military leaders cover up and lie to elected civilian authorities, the foundation of democratic civil-military relations is undermined because it is those authorities who are entrusted to hold the military accountable to the public that they mutually serve. But this is only true if civilian political authorities take their ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    1 day ago
  • Challenging the voting age in court
    The Make It 16 campaign to lower the voting age is launching this afternoon, and they have already announced plans to challenge the law in court:The campaign, named "Make it 16" will launch at Parliament on Friday, with plans to take their case to the High Court, testing the rights ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 day ago
  • Israel’s elections herald a long siesta
    by Daphna Whitmore The long years of Netanyahu’s reign are drawing to an end. For years he has epitomized reactionary zionism as he oversaw hundreds of thousands of Jewish settlers seize land in the West Bank. There are now 700,000 settlers, putting an end to the myth that Israel was ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 day ago
  • Petrol companies promise prices will come back down once peace is restored to the Middle East
    BP, Z and Mobil all insist that petrol price hikes are temporary, “in a very literal sense.” The nation’s major petrol providers are trying to allay customer fears over prices, promising that they’ll move to lower them again “immediately” when the Middle East is returned to its formerly peaceful state. ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 days ago
  • All Blacks unveil boat for Rugby World Cup 2019
    South African coach Rassie Erasmus says he has no idea what they’re going to do about the boat. In a highly anticipated press conference this afternoon, All Blacks coach Steve Hansen has finally unveiled the team’s boat for its Rugby World Cup 2019 campaign. In a press conference that went ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 days ago
  • An increasingly shoddy coverup
    The Operation Burnham inquiry continued to question senior NZDF staff today, and their shoddy coverup over their knowledge of civilian casualties continue to fall apart. If you recall, first, we were asked to believe that it was all a series of "mistakes and errors": a senior officer with multiple degrees ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • If we are to avoid making the earth uninhabitable, we need to rapidly decarbonise our civilisation, and cut emissions to zero as quickly as possible. This seems like an impossible task, but its not. Pushing hard on a few technologies and trends will let us halve emissions in a decade:Greenhouse ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • A further attack on transparency
    The Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill (No 2) had part of its committee stage yesterday. its a generally tedious bill about the nitty-gritty of local government reorganisation. But it includes a clause making the Local Government Commission subject to the Ombudsmen Act, and hence the OIA. Great! Except of ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Ihumātao and Treaty settlements
    Yesterday Ihumātao's mana whenua reached a consensus that they would like their land back, and asked the government to negotiate with Fletcher's for its return. The government's response? Try and undermine that consensus, while talking about how doing anything would undermine existing Treaty settlements. The first is just more bad ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Protecting our history
    Its Suffrage Day, the 126th anniversary of women winning the right to vote (but not stand in elections) in New Zealand. And to celebrate, the government has bought Kate Sheppard's house in Christchurch:The government has bought Kate Sheppard's former home in Christchurch for more than $4 million. The Ilam villa ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Climate Change: Ostracising the coal-burners
    The UN climate summit is happening in new York next week, and unlike previous years, coal-burners and denier-states are not being invited to speak:Leading economies such as Japan and Australia will not be invited to speak at next week’s crunch UN climate change summit, as their continued support for coal ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Jojo Tamihere Salutes Herr Goff.
    Get Back Jojo! The elation in Mayor Phil Goff’s camp may be easily imagined as they watched social media light up in indignation at challenger John Tamihere’s "Sieg Heil to that" quip. Just when JT’s notoriously right-wing, sexist and homophobic stains were beginning to fade back into his ‘colourful’ past, ...
    2 days ago
  • Hard News: A fun but flawed weed documentary
    Patrick Gower is good value when he's high. Not that I've ever, you know, got stoned with him. But in the second part of his documentary Patrick Gower on Weed, he does what you'd expect in a modern weed documentary and immerses himself – first with a doctor, then a ...
    3 days ago
  • Candidate Survey: Western Bay of Plenty – Local Body Elections 2019
    We surveyed candidates on their attitudes to issues facing the Western Bay Region, find out what they think: “Closing the Gap” Tauranga, one of the area groups of Income Equality Aotearoa NZ Inc., has surveyed all candidates in the three local body elections to discover attitudes to some basic issues ...
    Closing the GapBy Tracey Sharp
    3 days ago
  • Project Nettie calls on scientists to defend biology
    Please spread widely, and sign, to support science and rationalism over the new irrationalism sweeping universities and institutions.  PROJECT NETTIE Sexual reproduction, the generation of offspring by fusion of genetic material from two different individuals, evolved over 1 billion years ago. It is the reproductive strategy of all higher animals ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    3 days ago
  • I’m glad I don’t live in Auckland
    Just when I was thinking that Palmerston North's mayoral race (which includes a convicted child molester / public wanker and a convicted child beater) was the worst in the country, Auckland mayoral candidate John Tamihere opened his mouth:Auckland mayoral candidate John Tamihere is being slammed for using the words "sieg ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Index of Power Update, 2018-19: China #2
    We reprint below an article from the excellent website the Economics of Imperialism by Tony Norfield This is an update of the statistics for my Index of Power, using data for 2018-19 and discussing what a country’s ranking reflects. The major change is that China’s rank has shifted up and ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    3 days ago
  • Climate Change: A history lesson
    Why is New Zealand climate change policy so crap? The Herald this morning has a long article on the twists and turns of climate change policy in New Zealand [paywalled / depaywall script], which shows where we've been. The short version is that the government first began worrying about this ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • What the All Blacks Mean to Us
    The All Blacks have been, for more than a century, arguably the most successful International sports team in the world. But they are more than that; even for those Kiwis who are immune to the charms of rugby (and there are more than a few), the All Blacks are ambassadors ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    3 days ago
  • No one is born into the wrong body
    A short and incredibly powerful speech from a young lesbian woman. No one is born in the wrong body. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    4 days ago
  • Contempt
    Back in June, the UK Court of Appeal ruled that that country's continued arms sales to Saudi Arabia were unlawful. So you'd expect that the UK government stopped approving them, right?Of course not:The government has apologised for breaching a court ruling against the sale of weapons to Saudi Arabia that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Covering up the cover-up
    Yesterday NZDF officials were put on the stand about the lies they had told over Operation Burnham, making implausible claims that it was all a big mistake. But along the way, we learned they had already been put on the spot about it by a previous Defence Minister, who had ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Not as important as they think they are
    Farmers have been whining a lot lately, about the methane targets in the Zero Carbon Bill, about Canterbury's proposed nitrogen limits, and about the government's new proposals to stop them from shitting in our lakes and rivers. These policies are "throwing farmers under the tractor", they will force farmers off ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Behind Every Good Woman Should Stand – Another Good Woman.
    Alone, Alone, All, All, Alone: To argue that the Prime Minister is the victim of her advisers’ failure to keep her informed may offer Jacinda some measure of exoneration – but only at the cost of casting her as a hopeless political ingénue. A star-dusted muppet, whose only purpose is to ...
    4 days ago
  • Poor quality, poorly educated kiddie ‘Journalists’ spreading fake news
    In times of hysteria about the “World coming to an end” and “rising sea levels” so-called ‘Journalists’ who can barely spell words longer than four letters are having a ball! Though the majority of the Public have worked out that manmade climate change is nothing short of pseudo-science, and the ...
    An average kiwiBy admin@averagekiwi.com
    4 days ago
  • Chris Trotter on the BFD
    I don't want to give pblicity to certain parts of the internet that are better left to fester in their own irrelevance (I know, a bit like this place) but the listing of Chris Trotter as a 'author' on Cameron Slater's spinoff website, the BFD requires some explanation.Now, I don't ...
    5 days ago
  • Sex is not a spectrum
    The text below is a Twitter thread by Heather Heying that explains the essence of sexual reproduction and it long evolutionary history. She is an evolutionary biologist and a “professor-in-exile” after she and her husband, Bret Weinstein, stood up to supporters of an enforced “Day of Absence” for white staff and teachers ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    5 days ago
  • Climate Change: Trees, aviation, and offsets
    With crunch time for new Zealand climate policy approaching, most of the New Zealand media have got on board with a global reporting effort to cover the issue. There's one strand of stories today about polling and what it shows about changing public attitudes to the crisis, but the strand ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Pissing-Off The Israelis Is A High-Risk Strategy.
    Dangerous Foes: For those readers of Bowalley Road who feel disposed to dismiss any prospect of an Israeli destabilisation of New Zealand politics, the example of the United Kingdom repays close attention. Ever since the election of Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the British Labour Party, the Israelis have sanctioned, funded and ...
    5 days ago
  • Something to go to in Wellington
    Make It 16, the youth-led campaign to lower New Zealand's voting age, is holding an official campaign launch at Parliament this Friday from 16:30. If you'd like to attend, you can register using EventBrite here. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • A founding member responds to Peace Action Wellington
    by Don Franks It was a lovely sunny Wellington afternoon with blue skies above  the beaches.  In Courtenay Place, political activists packed out a stuffy upstairs room for an important meeting. The assembled pacifists, anarchists, communists and independent young radicals of Peace Action Wellington felt the need for a mission ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    5 days ago
  • “Mistakes and errors”
    Current and former NZDF top brass are being publicly grilled this week by the hit and run inquiry over their public responses to allegations of civilian casualties. Previously, they've claimed there were no casualties, a position which led them to lie to Ministers and to the public. Now, they're saying ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • “Homosexuality is same-sex attraction and relationships, not heterosexuals with delusions of gende...
    by Rafael D. Quiles (gender-critical gay man from Puerto Rico) The writing on the wall is right in people’s faces and people just don’t see it or don’t want to. What could actually possess a heterosexual male to want to feminize himself and claim that he is a lesbian? Because ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    6 days ago
  • Trump: “Where’s my favourite dictator?”
    From the Wall Street Journal:Inside a room of the ornately decorated Hotel du Palais during last month’s Group of Seven summit in Biarritz, France, President Trump awaited a meeting with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi. Mr. Trump looked over a gathering of American and Egyptian officials and called out in ...
    6 days ago
  • Magdalen Burns, 1983-2019, fighter for women’s liberation
    by the Redline blog collective At Redline we are very saddened to hear of the death of Magdalen Burns who passed away on the morning of Friday, September 13 (British time). Magdalen was a great fighter for the rights of women in general and lesbian women in particular, a defender ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    7 days ago
  • Parliament and the Executive
    The Brexit issue has certainly brought with it a series of apparently difficult constitutional issues, many of them concerning the respective roles of the executive and parliament. Most of them arise because of the unwillingness of MPs, despite their professions to the contrary, to be bound by a constitutional rarity ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • The Abigail Article; Martyn Bradbury’s Article, and My Response
    . . This blogpost is different to my usual format of reporting on issues… Since July 1011, I have blogged on a variety of political issues; near always political and/or environmental; mostly highly critical of the previous National Government. Other issues included Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands and repression of ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    1 week ago
  • Police will have to wear silly Buckingham Palace hats from now on, says Police Minister
    Those close to the Police Minister believe the initiative may be the result of Nash “seeing a great deal” on AliExpress. In a move that comes seemingly out of nowhere, Police Minister Stuart Nash announced this afternoon that he expects all frontline staff to don bearskin hats, famously worn by ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • A sensible crackdown
    The government has released its Arms Legislation Bill, containing the second tranche of changes to gun laws following the March 15 massacre. And it all looks quite sensible: a national gun register, higher penalties for illegal possession and dealing, tighter restrictions on arms dealers and shooting clubs, and a shorter ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • California bans private prisons
    Private prisons are a stain on humanity. Prison operators explicitly profit from human misery, then lobby for longer prisons terms so they can keep on profiting. And in the US, prison companies run not only local and state prisons, but also Donald Trump's immigration concentration camps. Faced with this moral ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Why PPPs are a bad idea
    When National was in power, they were very keen on Public-Private Partnerships (PPPs) - basicly, using private companies to finance public infrastructure as a way of hiding debt from the public. They were keen on using them for everything - roads, schools, hospitals. But as the UK shows, that "service" ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • A Movement That No Longer Moves.
    Moving And Shaking: There was a time when people spoke matter-of-factly about the “labour movement” – a political phenomenon understood to embrace much more than the Labour Party. Included within the term’s definition was the whole trade union movement – many of whose members looked upon the Labour Party as ...
    1 week ago
  • NZ ‘left’ politically embracing extreme postmodernism
    by Philip Ferguson Much of the left, even people who formally identify as marxists, have collapsed politically in the face of postmodern gender theory of the sort pioneered by American philosopher Judith Butler. For Butler even biological sex is socially constructed. “If the immutable character of sex is contested, perhaps ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • The obvious question
    The media is reporting that the (alleged) Labour party sexual assaulter has resigned from their job at Parliament, which means hopefully he won't be turning up there making people feel unsafe in future. Good. But as with everything about this scandal, it just raises other questions. Most significantly: why the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The moment I found out that you found out, I acted swiftly
    By Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern I am every bit as angry as you are. I am every bit as disappointed as you must be. The people with power, oversight and the ability to do something about these processes within the Labour Party should be ashamed. Whoever those people are, I ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • This is why people hate property developers
    Property developers think there is an "oversupply" of houses in Auckland:High turnover rates and falling prices may be a sign that there are too many new houses going in to some parts of Auckland, commentators say. [...] Property developer David Whitburn said there was a "bit of an oversupply" in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Australia to Pacific: “Fuck you, you can all drown”
    World leaders are meeting in New York in two weeks for the 2019 Climate Action Summit, where they are expected to announce new and more ambitious targets to stop the world from burning. But the Australian Prime Minister won't be there, despite being in the USA at the time:Scott Morrison ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
     Two-Faced? Labour insiders' commitment to the neoliberal status quo puts them at odds with their party’s membership; its trade union affiliates; and a majority of Labour voters, but this only serves to strengthen the perception they have of themselves as a special elite. Among the lesser breeds, they’ll talk up a ...
    1 week ago
  • Ten reasons the Tories do NOT want an election
    There has been a lot of talk about Boris Johnson wanting an election, and he has blustered with great gusto about 'chicken' Jeremy Corbyn refusing one, but I think there are many reasons why he is secretly glad he has been refused the opportunity:The Tories are an utter rabble,tearing themselves ...
    1 week ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    1 week ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    2 weeks ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 weeks ago
  • Māori Language Week with The Civilian
    Kia ora, Aotearoa. It’s that magical time of year. Te Wiki o te Reo Māori. In English, the week that frightens talk radio. As you probably know by now, all your favourite media outlets are participating, some more successfully than others. Stuff has changed its name to Puna for the ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Will Horizons act on climate change?
    Local body elections are coming up next month. And it looks like all Palmerston North candidates for Horizons (the Manawatu-Whanganui Regional Council) want to take action on climate change:Climate change is set to be a key issue in Palmerston North for the next three years if those wanting to get ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • BORA reform is stalled
    Eighteen months ago, the government promised to strengthen the Bill of Rights Act, by explicitly affirming the power of the courts to issue declarations of inconsistency and requiring Parliament to formally respond to them. So how's that going? I was curious, so I asked for all advice about the proposal. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Corbyn and Brexit
    As the Brexit saga staggers on, the focus is naturally enough on the Prime Minister and his attempts to achieve Brexit “do or die”. But the role played by the Leader of the Opposition is of almost equal interest and complexity. The first problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago
  • A ditch for him to die in
    Last week, English Prime Minister Boris Johnson boldly declared that he would rather die be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit. Unfortunately for him, the UK parliament accepted the challenge, and promptly dug one for him. The "rebellion bill" requires him to ask for and secure yet another temporary ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Warning! Warning! Danger Jacinda Ardern! Danger Marama Davidson! Warning!
    Lost In Political Space: The most important takeaway from this latest Labour sexual assault scandal, which (if I may paraphrase Nixon’s White House counsel’s, John Dean’s, infamous description of Watergate) is “growing like a cancer” on the premiership, is the Labour Party organisation’s extraordinary professional paralysis in the face of ...
    2 weeks ago

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