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Breaking: Compensation for Bain for Government’s mishandling of compensation process

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Justice Minister Amy Adams has announced there will be no compensation for David Bain for his incarceration although it has decided to award compensation for undue delay difficulties in finalising the matter processing the claim in a hope the matter will be finalised by the payment of an ex gratia payment of $925,000.  The payment has been accepted in full and final settlement of all claims.  Judith Collins has a lot to answer for.

139 comments on “Breaking: Compensation for Bain for Government’s mishandling of compensation process”

  1. Rosemary McDonald 1

    “…will be no compensation for David Bain for his incarceration although it has decided to award compensation for undue delay in finalising the matter in a hope the matter will be finalised by the payment of an ex gratia payment of $925,000. ”

    My brain just turned inside out.

    Clayton’s compo.

    [You are right. I have changed the description because it is clear that the “process difficulties” are the reason for the payment. But yes it is Clayton’s compo – MS]

    • adam 1.1

      I’m confused. This just seems odd.

      ” Clayton’s compo” I think you just nailed it Rosemary McDonald

  2. Wensleydale 2

    “Sorry, David. We’re not going to compensate you for your unjust imprisonment. However, we are generously prepared to compensate you for fucking you around for years before deciding we’re not going to compensate you.”

    If I were David Bain, I’d be incandescent with rage right now.

    • Rosemary McDonald 2.1

      “If I were David Bain, I’d be incandescent with rage right now.”

      The Clayton’s Compo has been accepted. I wonder if the deal has a gagging clause.

    • Puckish Rogue 2.2

      “If I were David Bain, I’d be incandescent with rage right now.”

      He should be damn thankful that he’s still not in prison

      • McFlock 2.2.1


      • Kevin 2.2.2


        He should never have been there in the first place.

        He was wrongly convicted and then found not guilty in a second trial.

        He is entitled to compensation as was Teina Pora, David Dougherty and Alan Thomas, whether you like it or not.

        • Puckish Rogue

          He was correctly found guilty and then incorrectly found not guilty and the difference between Teina Pora, David Dougherty and Alan Thomas and David Bain is that they were not guilty

          If David Bain wanted compensation then he should have gone on the dock so he could have been questioned

          • Leftie

            But wasn’t Bain acquitted in his retrial?

            • Puckish Rogue

              As I understand it (and no doubt someone will probably correct me) theres a higher threshold for compensation, that its not just a case of found not guilty = money

              • McFlock

                weizguy went into it below.

                The cabinet guideline is whether, on the balance of probabilities, he actually did it (therefore the injustice is the irregularities that led to the trial being overturned and redone) or did not do it (so the injustice was that a probably innocent man was sent to gaol).

                • dukeofurl

                  The Police evidence to ‘prove his innocence’ was not kept for his retrial or subsequent enquiries

                  Botched investigation meant he could have been cleared at his first trial
                  “In further cross-examination by Reed, the former detective agreed his officers had failed to take gunshot residue tests of either Robin’s or David’s hands and arms in the time period required. ”

                  “He accepted that although the police manual talked about wrapping bodies in plastic and ensuring hands and feet were wrapped as well, that was not done in Robin Bain’s case.”

                  “Doyle agreed that if skin around the head wounds of Robin Bain had been properly preserved, a major dispute in the current trial could have been avoided. Carpet on which bloody footprints were found should also have been cut out but was not.”

                  “The samples were scrapings from underneath Robin Bain’s fingernails, a smear of blood on Robin Bain’s left hand and skin samples from Robin Bain’s hands. They were destroyed on January 26, 1996.”

                  The NBR analysis why police incompetance meant it was impossible for Bain to prove his innocence
                  Photographs taken of the crime scene were a “shambles”. The date and time function on the camera was not switched on.
                  The DNA sample for the “blood fingerprint” analysis was found to be an “unspeakable mess”.
                  . Police destroyed crucial evidence ahead of the Bain appeal.

        • smilin

          Seems a pedantic difference between not guilty and innocent when it comes to the govt
          If your innocent till proven guilty then what do you call not guilty if it is not innocent
          Therefore his imprisonment was the fault of HMG so he should be compensated and the govt accept the highest court ruling ie privy council or is that not good enough then what is ?a royal pardon ?
          I suppose they will argue against that on the grounds of what, the Queens reps arent competent, or just a plain old fuck you DB we know yo did it signed off by one of the excops in parliament really good eh

      • billmurray 2.2.3

        Puckish Rogue, I agree with you, lets just hope that with this payment he and his handler ‘Mr Greed’ disappear from our lives.

        • Puckish Rogue

          Do you think they will though?

          • billmurray

            Puckish Rogue, Joe Karam may want to keep going but Bain who did not go into the dock to get cross examined, will be very grateful indeed for this perk pay-out will call time.
            I wish that they both become immigrants FROM our country.

            • red-blooded

              I think you mean “emigrants”, Bill. (“I”=in, “E”=exit)

              Leave the poor bloke alone, eh?

      • D'Esterre 2.2.4

        Puckish Rogue: ” He should be damn thankful that he’s still not in prison.”

        My sentiments exactly.

      • meconism 2.2.5

        Conviction quashed by the Privy Council and acquitted at re trial, if that doesn’t satisfy you, might i suggest you go and [Deleted. Don’t advocate violence, please. TRP]. I read a lot of your stupidity on this site pr but you really are an ignorant selfish and profoundly stupid prick. I wouldn’t cross the road to piss on you if you were on fire.

    • Patricia Duff 2.3

      Indeed I would create hell looking back at some of the payouts it is peanuts,

    • mosa 2.4

      After reading Joe Karams book i am even more convinced he did the crime.
      His version has never added up and he has NOT BEEN FOUND INNOCENT OF THE CRIME after all the money spent and court trials they have not found him innocent beyond all reasonable doubt.
      With our money i suppose he can just afford to buy a house in Auckland.

      • aerobubble 2.4.1

        The question of guilt is irrelevant until proceediral matters are dealt with. Victims of crime must expect justice is available. You do remember the victims dont you. The parasite class likes to make out how defintive everything is, but they routine dont care about actual facts. Ts a fact that a person has the right to a fair trial, cause the victims want the right person to be found guilty, also they dont want a wrong added, that a innocent is found guilty. This is why we’d rather guilt people go free than innocent be locked away. THis is why every freedom patriot is incensed that Bain has failed to be compensated by the govt. Its up to a free state to prove that its capable of proving guilt as well as doing so. A state cannot allow its agents to fumble a guilt verdit, then say their bad, they can provide the evidence for a sufficient balance of probabilities assessment. The Law society should strike off the author of the report who contends the Police handling of evidence is sufficient, since his report isnt a legal document, or that the govt exjudicial declaration of balance probs is a judgment worth pee, using legal criteria to pass political decision off as legal is unconsciousable. In fact Bain should be now sued for falsly agreeing to a unconsciousable contract, that can finallt investigate the fairness to all the courts proceedings police handling and politucal spin. Because i think this whole affair, pushing the guilt of a person into a public arena is an attack on the justice system.

        What is a persin to do when they walking into their home, their family dying, their relative, son, father, brother, are insane, and left them in the frame? Nobody has a clue now. And should you dare fight this, your givt will give you a million dollars eventually. Oh please what does thst say about our courts? When they fail to admit error, when pushed after decades to, they still are miserily and unhumilated by being caught failing.

      • Brigid 2.4.2

        But have you read Justice Binney’s report? I think you should. As should all the people who doubt David Bain’s innocence.

  3. Siobhan 3

    I was waiting for a piece on this ..OUTRAGEOUS decision….


    “The court said Ms Lowe’s relief work for full-time carers for disabled people did not fit the definition of being an employee.”

    • Lanthanide 3.1

      This should be moved to Open Mike.

    • Rosemary McDonald 3.2

      Siobahn…you are right…but this is not unexpected. I read the entire decision before my coffee this morning and in actual fact, the way the Miserly of Health set up Carer Support, it was never going to be ever a “fit for purpose” scheme.

      I am a fulltime unpaid care of my partner, with an allocation of 100 of Carer Support Subsidy that I am unable to use….legally.

      ps. I suspect this exchange may be moved to Open Mike.

      • weka 3.2.1

        Rosemary, is the $3/hr paid by the MoH direct to the care worker? Or does it go through the family? They called it relief work in the RNZ article but are they talking about respite care?

        • Rosemary McDonald


          The ‘full time unpaid carer’ (that’s me!) is allocated so many ‘days’ funded at $76 per day.

          There is a form to be filled out….can be accessed through the page I linked to.

          I can pay the ‘support carer’ directly….(with what pray? The dollars shaken from the tree down the back?) get them to fill out their bit of the form and I can claim back the amount.

          or…and preferably…I can fill out the form saying ‘x’ gave me so many days of support please pay them the $76 per day.

          It used to be possible (and common) for folk to send in a form “saying ‘x’ did ‘y’ number of days during this date and that date” and they would pay the support carer.

          This was by far the best method for those of us caring for someone with very high and complex care needs when most of the time we had to take ‘support’ (from acceptable people) at short notice and at irregular times. Very difficult to organise support carers with the level of expertise that means the unpaid fulltime carer can just walk off and leave them to it. There has to be enough flexibility in the system….there never was, and in early 2010 the Misery changed the form and now we had to put down the number of hours the person worked ….start and finish times…ridiculous when the funding per day is so low.

          All up Weka….Carer Support was a token ‘shut them up’ gesture from the Ministry.

          Having said that….our family has provided support care for disabled children. The kids would come and stay (our home is accessible) and not only get the care they needed, but they would get to stay with a family where one of the parents had a disability and was themselves a hands on carer. We did this for $76 for 24 hour period. Happy to as these kids needed good respite care and their parents needed this kind of support.

          While the Lowe case was wending, the Miserly began a trial of Enabling Good Lives in the Western BOP and Waikato. One aspect was enabling people to use their Enhanced Inidividualised Funding to pay for Carer Support at a much higher hourly rate. I have no experience of this scheme…but there is a rather larger evaluation of the EGL program…haha..not an entirely positive read as the Miserly seemingly cannot help but be the ones in control…even when they say…”you, the disabled person is in charge!”

          I am not surprised by this decision…CSS was always a subsidy and for years folk got along and used it the best way they could, and the low hourly rate was subsidised by sheer good will.

          Something that the Misery of Health has a deficit of.

    • I’m not sure if this is the right post for discussing that particular case, Siobhan. It’s a disappointing outcome, certainly. But from reading the link, the question seems to be about the nature of the work Ms Lowe was doing and whether it was as a contractor, as a homeworker or as an employee. The DHB appears to have successfully argued that she wasn’t an employee. I’m not sure what the implications are for others doing similar work, but no doubt her union will be clarifying that matter in short time.

    • aerobubble 3.4

      You noticed how they dumped these stories all together…

  4. Infused 4

    He was never found innocent. We all know he did it.

    • Wensleydale 4.1

      Stop listening to the voices in your head, Infused. It’s not healthy.

    • mickysavage 4.2

      In that case the payment is an acknowledgment by the Government that it stuffed up the compensation process. Big time.

      • Leftie 4.2.1

        And isn’t that why the National government purposely stuffed up the compensation process so it wouldnt have to pay out proper restitution?

        • Chris

          The original claim was made when we had a Labour government which put every ounce of energy it had into defending that claim. Labour did the same thing in the sleepover case. Absolutely sickening behaviour from a party that calls itself progressive. Workers’ rights and human rights be damned.

          • Leftie

            “Workers’ rights and human rights be damned.”

            That is so very true of National Chris.

            • Chris

              I was referring to what happened when we had a Labour government.

              • Leftie

                David Bain was acquitted in 2009 Chris, wasn’t the claim for compensation made after that?

              • Chris

                I’ve gotten tangled up – have been commenting on the discussion about the carers decision above.

                • dukeofurl

                  You are scrambled over the Carers case as well. had nothing to do with when labour government was in office. Chain of cases started here.

                  “In 2013 Ms Lowe issued proceedings in the Employment Relations Authority
                  seeking a determination that she was engaged as a homeworker>>”

                  • Leftie

                    +1 Dukeofurl.

                  • Chris

                    The latest claim wouldn’t have been possible without the Atkinson case – a proceeding that went on for years because a Labour government spent hundreds of thousands of dollars defending a human rights claim they ought to have embraced.

                • Leftie

                  Yeah, right, but the Nats still don’t do wrong aye Chris? its always going to be Labour’s fault regardless.

                  • Chris

                    If the current Labour party are the fresh new progressives you say they are why are you so defensive against negative comments about the previous Labour government?

                    • dukeofurl

                      Correcting mistakes is a backward move ? Just keep your baseless slurs to your self as this shows you havent a clue.

                    • Leftie

                      Because it is totally irrelevant under the topic being discussed Chris, again you are just trying to have a go for the sake of it. Have a cup of tea and take your pointless argument elsewhere.

                    • Chris

                      What mistakes have Labour corrected?

                    • Leftie

                      You’re being deliberately obtuse Chris, because you want to have a fight. Dukeofurl was making reference to your mistakes, and you know it.

                    • Chris

                      dukeofurl was referring to Labour’s mistakes, you pathetic little Labour toadie.

                    • Leftie

                      You’re sad and pathetic. Get a life Chris, you’ll feel better.

      • Leftie 4.2.2

        Collins got her way in the end, didn’t she?

        • Psycho Milt

          For once I feel happy that Collins got her way. If only she’d got her way to the extent that Bain got told to whistle for his money.

          • Ross

            Me too.

            Remember David Bain said, after his conviction was quashed:

            “I kept coming back to my core belief – I wasn’t there.”

            Hmmm it’s merely a belief that he’s innocent? In the same interview he said that whether anyone thought he was guilty or innocent, he’s served 13 years in prison and should be able to get on with his life. That’s another weird comment.


            • red-blooded

              I don’t find that comment at all weird. He knows there are some people who will never be convinced. Personally, I think he’s innocent. Even if he wasn’t, though, I would take the view that he was clearly a very traumatised and damaged young man if he did commit the murders and that he had served his time. Let’s remember that the non-parole period for murder used to be 10 years. Thirteen years is a damn long time for anyone, let alone someone who’s spent his 20s and early 30s in prison. There’s no way to really compensate someone for that, if the original conviction was wrong. Even if it wasn’t, I’d say 13 years is enough.

              • Ross

                Thirteen years for the cold, calculating murder of five people, including three of his siblings? Because, if he’s guilty, that’s exactly what he did and, not forgetting, tried to blame his father by writing a fake note. You might think 13 years in prison is a damn long time but it equates to less than three years for each life taken. In other countries, like the UK, he’d likely be spending the rest of his life in prison.

                There’s plenty of evidence to suggest he’s guilty. I do find it interesting that he told his original trial lawyer that he was wearing his mother’s glasses on the night of the murders but recanted when he realised the implication of that admission.

                • red-blooded

                  When it comes right down to it, neither you nor I can possibly know if he committed the murders. My instinct, having looked into things reasonably thoroughly some years ago, is no. Yours is yes. Either way, the police botched the investigation and made it impossible to really resolve the matter. (See later comments about issue like carpets and gunpowder residue tests.) However, even if he did kill his family (which I really doubt), it would be ridiculous to talk about these murders as “cold-blooded”. These were clearly the acts of an unbalanced mind (whoever that mind belonged to). What did Bain have to gain from these killings? “Cold-blooded” implies an external motivation, and a careful plan.

                  As for things like which glasses he was wearing, I hope you never have to experience such horror and panic. Maybe you’d be super-settled and calm. I sure as hell wouldn’t and – shit – I might even make mistakes or change my story as different memories pushed their way into the clutter of my thoughts and feelings. I might do things that seemed, to a third person, looking back and looking to create their own narrative, to be illogical or inconsistent. You? You’d clearly be calm and orderly and fine and dandy. Good on you.

                  • Ross

                    How closely have you looked at the evidence? It might be worth looking at it again.

                    I hope you never have to experience such horror and panic.

                    But how do you know David panicked? He didn’t call police for at least 20 minutes, all the while the killer might have been inside the house. Why didn’t David quickly leave the house, fearing that he might be the next to be shot? He said he went from room to room – hearing his sister gurgle and watching blood streaming down his mother’s face, but not calling police – yet he didn’t say he was scared of being killed. Why not?


                    • red-blooded

                      “Why didn’t he…?”

                      Again, horror and panic. Shock and grief. People process these experiences differently and they don’t necessarily do things tidily and logically.

              • Chris

                Some of the evidence supports a conclusion that Robin killed his wife and three kids then David came home, saw what had happened then shot Robin. If that were the case then provocation would’ve been available so 13 years is ample.

            • UncookedSelachimorpha

              He has often used language that is inconsistent with innocence – including the 111 call.

      • Tanz 4.2.3

        Have you not looked at all the physical evidence, MS? All of it leads to DB, there is not one shred of hard evidence against Robin Bain. It’s an outrage that DB gets anything, and its extortion money. The only good thing, the final report finally acquits the voiceless Robin Bain and I am sure those greedy lawyers will suck up much of the dosh. What a travesty! The first jury was the sensible jury, who did not party with the accused, and were not blindsided by a media circus.

    • weizguy 4.3

      We don’t have a system that finds innocence. Our systems retains the presumption that a person is innocent until proven guilty. Bain’s conviction was overturned. Perhaps you should think about how you would respond to being subjected to the same criteria.

      This bizarre obsession with finding people innocent demonstrates a disturbing misunderstanding of our criminal justice system. Please retire that poor abused canard.

      • GregJ 4.3.1

        Thanks for the most sensible comment on this whole post.

        Tying compensation for wrongful imprisonment to a standard that is not found in our judicial system is inequitable and an injustice. The state is entrusted with tremendous power to exercise justice on our behalf and it should be held to exacting standards of proof in obtaining a conviction. If someone is wrongly convicted or the conviction is unsafe (as found by the Privy Council), imprisoned, re-tried and found Not Guilty then compensation should be paid – both to make amends to the person concerned and to remind the state authorities (police, prosecution service and courts) of the high standards that they are held to in exercising justice.

      • Macro 4.3.2

        ^^^^ This.

    • Michelle 4.4

      Do we really know he did it. We should never reintroduce the death penalty in our country our police and justice system is too tardy. How many more victims are sitting in our prisons that shouldn’t be

    • aerobubble 4.5

      Govt gives murderer million dollars, says its Police, courts, appeals, did a fine job keeping a murderer getting anything. Since we know Bain will get nothing as the money is for the lawyers fees etc. Timeliness is essential for justice, Bain never stood a chance to prove innocence, we can only hope he was guilty.

  5. Lanthanide 5

    Have a read of this, from a journalist who attended the retrial: http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/opinion/2518912/Plenty-of-doubt-in-Bain-jurys-verdict

    The weight of circumstantial evidence against David is pretty heavy.

    • Puckish Rogue 5.1


      David Bain got away with murder and pocketed 900 grand (and whatever profits from the books) for his trouble

      • Kevin 5.1.1

        “David Bain got away with murder”

        Not unless his feet shrunk before the killings and then grew after.

        • Puckish Rogue


          “Mr Callinan’s report found that Mr Bain has not established his innocence on the balance of probabilities. As such, no statement of innocence or compensation payment will be made to Mr Bain.

          • Leftie

            That’s not what Canadian judge Ian Binnie reported.

            Ian Binnie was the first judge that the National government had hired to make a report. National didn’t like his findings, so they hired someone else who would say what they wanted. National is always doing that.

            Its like what john key says, if you don’t like what one scientist, academic, lawyer says, find another who will give you a counter view.

            <a href="http://www.listener.co.nz/commentary/john-keys-unhappy-week-at-the-bbc/

            • Psycho Milt

              In this case, they were justified in rejecting the report. The guy had been handed a brief that said “applicant must make a case for being innocent on balance of probabilities” and came back with a report that put the burden of proof on the Crown. That’s the equivalent of a surgeon cutting off the wrong limb – it’s no surprise Collins was furious with him.

          • Kevin

            Pretty hard to establish your innocence when the police made such a pigs arse of the gathering and preserving evidence.

            • GregJ

              Not surprising for the police. Their recordkeeping has and continues to be a shambles. It’s not just carelessness (although that plays a part) – it’s the arrogance of an organisation that thinks it doesn’t have to play by the rules everyone else does.

    • Rosemary McDonald 5.2

      What I never understood was why David was found ‘guilty’, as opposed to ‘not guilty by reason of insanity’. Killing your entire family like that. Not the action of a sane person, surely?

      I used to think the balance of probabilities was against David being innocent…the evidence collected and compiled by the police prosecution team was sooo damning.

      Then I personally experienced police incompetence/corruption, and my world view changed entirely.

      One way of looking at it (reading the article you linked to) that there is a suspicious amount of evidence linking the murders to David.

      Almost as if they had made up their minds who had done it.

      • Lanthanide 5.2.1

        Yeah, insanity certainly comes to mind when reading that article. I never kept up with the minutia of the case so can’t really offer any opinion on that count.

      • Psycho Milt 5.2.2

        What I never understood was why David was found ‘guilty’, as opposed to ‘not guilty by reason of insanity’.

        Well, he never claimed insanity and no psychologists considered him insane, so what’s difficult to understand about it? Clayton Weatherston wasn’t found “not guilty by reason of insanity” either.

        …there is a suspicious amount of evidence linking the murders to David.

        Almost as if they had made up their minds who had done it.

        Or, almost as if he had done it.

      • ankerawshark 5.2.3

        To be found not guilty by reason of insanity a person needs to be actively psychotic, e.g believing that in David’s case his family were impostors out to cause grave harm to him and therefore laboring under this delusion shot them in self defence. Otherwise no matter how heinous the crime, people are responsible for their actions.

        My tuppence worth on David Bain. There is only one person who really knows what happened and that’s David. I am not an expert in the case, but have read quite a bit about it. I believe it is correct in that he is unable to prove his innocence unlike Pora or David Duoarty (mis-spell) sorry.

        There is quite a bit of compelling evidence David Bain could have done it.

        This is the first occasion I actually think the Nats have done the right thing (shock horror, but true). This case needs to be closed now.

  6. Ralf Crown 6

    “Not innocent beyond reasonable doubt” It is the first time ever I heard that. “Beyond reasonable doubt” is the strongest possible test on a possible guilty verdict. It has never been used in terms of innocent. Applying that test just about everyone accused of anything will be guilty by default. Everyone who passes the checkout in a supermarket is “Not innocent beyond reasonable doubt” in other words, guilty of shoplifting. Yet another blow for the credibility and trust of the New Zealand justice system and the trust in these clown called kiwis. The Chinese are fed up with the kangaroo system of New Zealand and want to get rid of the howlers from Downunder that can no longer be trusted.

    • Lanthanide 6.1

      “Not innocent beyond reasonable doubt” It is the first time ever I heard that. “Beyond reasonable doubt” is the strongest possible test on a possible guilty verdict. It has never been used in terms of innocent. Applying that test just about everyone accused of anything will be guilty by default.

      Best you learn the context of what is being spoken of then, eh?

      To be found guilty of a crime and CONVICTED, you must be found guilty beyond reasonable doubt.

      To get COMPENSATION from the government for imprisonment, you must be found innocent beyond reasonable doubt for the crime you were convicted of.

      So you can avoid conviction by having “reasonable doubt”. But if there is “reasonable doubt”, you won’t get compensation from the government.

      Two separate (but related) judgements. Two different levels of certainty that must be met.

      This government is applying existing legislation.

      • weizguy 6.1.1

        Just to clarify – the compensation test is a Cabinet guideline. It’s not legislation.
        Secondly, the compensation test is on the “balance of probabilities” – the civil standard, which is harder for the accused.

        For the criminal offence, the crown needed to prove that Bain was guilty “beyond reasonable doubt”. For compensation, the reviewer needed to establish whether he was guilty “on the balance of probablities” i.e whether it was more likely that he was guilty.

        The first report found that he (on balance) didn’t commit the murders. The second found that he (on balance) did.

        • Lanthanide


        • Chris

          Isn’t the test for compensation innocent on the balance of probabilities?

        • The Chairman

          Why does the compensation test work off the balance of probabilities? Surely its destine to result in inconsistencies in regard to court rulings based on the presumption of innocence?

    • Sacha 6.2

      Ralf, are we to take it that you are an official representative of ‘the Chinese’ whose views you seem so intimately acquainted with in nearly every recent comment you’ve made?

    • The Chinese are fed up with the kangaroo system of New Zealand…

      Bain’s Chinese now? When did that happen? And what the hell is “the kangaroo system of New Zealand?”

  7. Dave 7

    This government has to go

  8. Leftie 8

    Collins, judge feud over Bain

    Last updated 05:00 13/12/2012

    The gloves are off in a bitter spat between Justice Minister Judith Collins and retired Canadian judge Ian Binnie over the David Bain compensation report.

    In a verbal sparring match one observer described as “unprecedented”, the pair publicly traded blows yesterday over what was in Mr Binnie’s September report on the compensation bid.

    He had concluded Mr Bain was innocent on the balance of probabilities of the murder of his parents, two sisters and brother in Dunedin in 1994.

    Ms Collins says Mr Binnie made “significant errors”, misinterpreted evidence and went “well beyond” his terms of reference. She has asked for his report to be peer-reviewed by New Zealand lawyer Robert Fisher, which she is due to receive today.

    She said Mr Binnie made assertions about witnesses in the report – and did not give them a chance to respond.

    “When it comes to Justice Binnie, I’m not at all impugning his integrity,” she insisted.

    Mr Binnie bit back at the criticism. In a press release issued from Switzerland yesterday morning, he accused Ms Collins of playing politics with the report.

    The respected international judge – who was paid about $400,000 by the Government for his work – said Mr Bain was entitled to see his findings.

    “It is a curious feature of this case that all of the ‘external’ judges who have looked at the record of the case have rejected the arguments of the solicitor-general and the Crown Law Office regarding David Bain’s guilt,” Mr Binnie said. In a stinging swipe at Ms Collins, he said it was improper for a client to publicly attack a lawyer’s advice.

    “I would expect that the minister, as a former Auckland tax lawyer, would be well aware of this principle.”

    Ms Collins used question time in Parliament to continue her critique of his work. She said he made errors about fingerprint evidence and was wrong to rely on elements of Mr Bain’s defence as fact.

    Within hours, Mr Binnie took to the airwaves to say “all I ask is that she stop talking about it”.

    “I was extremely surprised to hear her comments given that she insisted my report was confidential,” he told Radio New Zealand. “It’s catch-22.

    “She can apparently declare open season on the report and yet claim that I can’t release the report.”

    He said she waived privilege with her actions and it was unfair not to disclose his findings to Mr Bain when she had shown the report to Crown lawyers.

    But Mr Binnie said he would not release it. “I think she is wrong in doing what she has done . . . I’m not about to multiply the wrong.”

    Ms Collins also turned her wrath on Michael Reed, QC, Mr Bain’s lawyer, who said the minister just did not like what the report concluded.

    “Mr Reed is quite wrong. Mr Reed is, in fact, impugning my honesty, integrity.”

    He “should know better”, she said.

    The minister was likely to release both reports by the end of the week.

    “There is no point having a report with significant errors through it . . . that’s not going to help David Bain.”

    Mr Bain is seeking compensation for the almost 13 years he spent in jail after being convicted in May 1995. He was acquitted at a retrial in 2009 and could get about $2 million but the Government is not obliged to pay compensation.

    Otago University law professor Andrew Geddis said the David Bain case had captured the public attention – and any errors were bound to be seized on.

    “New Zealand seems to be a country of amateur Bain-ologists . . . the evidence is such a long and complicated trail spread over two trials, I wonder if it’s possible to write a report that gets everything spot-on.”

    Politicians had chosen to make the decision on compensation “a political call”.

    “That means the usual rules of respect between the judicial and the legal branch don’t really apply here so strongly,” Prof Geddis said.

    – The Dominion Post

    <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/8072376/Collins-judge-feud-over-Bain

    • Jenny Kirk 8.1

      Does anyone know if Binnie’s report was ever released publicly ?

      • Leftie 8.1.1

        Hello Jenny Kirk,

        Report recommending Bain compensation is ‘flawed’

        By Audrey Young, APNZ staff

        7:54 PM Thursday Dec 13, 2012

        “Labour’s justice spokesman Charles Chauvel said the release of the reports today revealed the extent of Ms Collins “behind-the-scenes interference to try and undermine Justice Binnie’s report on the David Bain Case”.

        “Judith Collins has worked relentlessly since 26 September to pick holes in Justice Binnie’s reasoning. She has spent $100,000 of taxpayers’ funds on a nit-picking review of Justice Binnie’s report, which itself cost taxpayers over $400,000.

        “At the same time she was instructing Robert Fisher QC to critique Justice Binnie’s work on a far wider basis of criticism than she ever made clear to him.”

        Mr Chauvel said that in the documents released today, the criticisms of Justice Binnie’s work had been greatly overstated”

        <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10853771

        There is a link in PDF file format of Binnie’s report in the article.

        • Jenny Kirk

          Thanks, Leftie.

        • Chuck

          Binnie had one too many bourbons writing his report…

          “Mr Chauvel said that in the documents released today, the criticisms of Justice Binnie’s work had been greatly overstated”

          Taking Chauvel’s opposition tainted glasses off = “Binnie’s work was shit”.

      • Ross 8.1.2

        Yes, his report was released very quickly and was found by various experts to be flawed.

    • xanthe 8.2

      “Ms Collins says Mr Binnie made “significant errors”, misinterpreted evidence and went “well beyond” his terms of reference. She has asked for his report to be peer-reviewed by New Zealand lawyer Robert Fisher, which she is due to receive today”

      exactly the way they dealt with the eribus report (justice mahon) , an you know there are plenty here still arguing pilot error there.

      Spin Spin and more spin . What actually needs to happen is deal with the disfunctional police prosicutions department that is creating a trail of destruction as well as that they might sack a few judges for good measure (but I am sure they would sack the wrong ones so maby not)

  9. Patricia Duff 9

    Don’t blame the Government for this problem , blame the Minister, how many years has David been released, great laugh when we see the payout for Teina Pora I could make a few remarks but of dear less said the better ???

  10. Judith Collins has a lot to answer for.

    I’m going to need a shower after writing this, but we owe Judith Collins a debt of gratitude for sticking to her guns and rejecting the initial review. If she hadn’t, we’d have ended up handing Bain a lot more than $950,000 of our cash. I’d prefer it if we gave him nothing, but this is probably as good as we’re going to get.

  11. Xanthe 11

    You all are missing the point!
    The question is who then did kill david bains familiy.
    IMHO The answer will be found in the police
    Think about all that has gone before

  12. One Anonymous Bloke 12

    On the one hand it’s bad luck for David Bain that unethical right wing trash have a say in his life.

    On the other hand it’s nice to see the government officially quantify Judith Collins’ blithering incompetence and vicious self-interest.

    • Chuck 12.1

      Meanwhile in the real world…

      Most NZ’ers see the Government making a sound call on ending this saga…no one wins, especially the slain members of the Bain family.

  13. Jack Ramaka 13

    Doesn’t give us much confidence in the Police, the Justice System or the Government, Judith finally got the answer she was looking for?

    • Halfcrow 13.1

      Yeah, reminds me of Justice Mahon findings on the Erebus “litany of lies” a result Muldoon did not expect and was pissed off with. Now this shower of shit has taken it to higher art form, keep on having enquiries until you arrive at one that’s your agenda

      • Halfcrow 13.1.1

        The last bit should have read, “until you arrive at one that suits your agenda”

  14. RedLogix 14

    A decision quite wonderful in it’s duplicity. Sir Humphrey would be proud!

  15. Xanthe 15

    But in the end we still dont know who dunnit. Despite various assertions made here its fairly clear it wasnt david so….. who was it?

    • Jenny Kirk 15.1

      The cops fudged the evidence, or neglected to store it safely, and then the house was burnt down. Seems to me that wasn’t totally coincidental ….. and it certainly stopped anyone -else from having a very good look at whatever it was that went on in that house, at that time. No chance for a re-investigation.

      • Xanthe 15.1.1

        It does make you wonder dosn’t it

      • Rosemary McDonald 15.1.2

        “…the house was burnt down. Seems to me that wasn’t totally coincidental ”

        According to Callinan, the Executors of the the Bain’s will had the place burned to the ground…within a fortnight of the murders and without any objection from officials.

        You’d think the Police would have put a stop to it…evidence and all that.

  16. Rodel 16

    Regardless of my ( and our) less than well informed opinions on Bain’s guilt or innocence, it is not good in a democracy that politicians like Collins, Adams and co. can effectively override the decisions of the court.
    Collin’s obvious but irrelevant belief that he is guilty should not be a factor. That;s why we have courts and a judicial system.
    Do we want John Key, Andrew Little or watsisname from ACT having a say in how the courts should should treat us or pedalling our case around tame overseas judges until they find one that concurs with their prejudices?

    Their behaviour is the thin edge that leads to dictatorial decision making- the sort of thing we might expect of Trump, Mugabe or perhaps Putin but they just don’t see it.

    • Rodel 16.1


    • … it is not good in a democracy that politicians like Collins, Adams and co. can effectively override the decisions of the court.

      What decision of a court have politicians over-ridden in this case? No court has expressed a view on whether Bain should get compensation or not.

  17. Venezia 17

    For once I agree with David Seymour. The government shopped around until they got a report consistent with their position – so they did not have to pay compensation. This case has been thoroughly politicised, the police role in the investigation was bungled/shoddy/ incompetent, politicians have gone well beyond their brief, and there are too many inconsistencies in the “evidence” to convict. David Bain was acquitted and should have been compensated for the 13 years he spent in prison.

    • Ross 17.1

      Nonsense. They got two reports. Binnie’s was a waste of money because he made fundamental mistakes. Various experts said so. I suggest you look at the evidence.

    • The government shopped around until they got a report consistent with their position – so they did not have to pay compensation.

      If that were actually the case (which, given that Binnie’s report ignored the main point in his brief, is by no means certain), it’s fair enough. Compensation is an ex gratia payment made at Cabinet’s discretion, so they don’t have to pay compensation if they don’t want to. It would have been more honest to just tell Bain up front that he should consider himself very lucky to have been found not guilty and there was no way the Crown was going to bung him a red cent, but Simon Power was a pretty odd minister.

  18. srylands 18

    “Judith Collins has a lot to answer for.”

    How does this logic go? She saved taxpayers millions.

    Did you actually read the released report? It is compelling. Judith was dead right to reject the Binnie report.

    • Yes. Much as I dislike Collins, we would have had to front up a lot more than $900 Gs if she hadn’t had the bollocks to call Binnie’s report what it was, so for once she actually did more good than harm.

    • Xanthe 18.2

      Yes i have read the link you posted, There is nothing of substance in it. Dont you understand that both the glasses lens and the bloody fingerprints on the gun have been comprehensively discredited, pull yer head out of yer arse and get out more,

      • ankerawshark 18.2.1

        Hi Xanthe,

        Can you say a bit more about how the glass lens and bloody fingerprints have been discredited?

  19. righty right 19

    justice has been done there was overwhelming evidence only lefties would claim any nation of someone being innocent and trying to bring the government derision and police into question. nobody challenges this government and gets away with it we rule you don’t take that left wing scum

  20. Observer Tokoroa 20

    .To Psycho Trolls

    . It interests me that you trolls are trashing the Privy Council and the NZ Justice System.

    . You are absolutely certain that David Bain committed the murders. Obviously you were present at the Bain home when David did it, for that is the only way you could know.

    You are so predictable. Your ability to make stuff up is a worry. You trash everyone who does not go along with National; Maori Party; and United Future.

    Do you think we all have to be as stupid and unsound as you Tory trolls?

    • Colonial Viper 20.1

      If it’s between David Bain and his Dad having done the killings, odds are clearly on David being the perp.

  21. smilin 21

    No wonder the whole sorry saga of Bain and the murders has been a mess. Ever had to deal with the Dunedin CIB as an accused person in that era? Then you will know why it was a mess from the start .

  22. Brigid 22

    If would like David Bain to know I know he didn’t kill his family. That is unless, as someone has pointed out, he has magic feet.

  23. Tanz 23

    It’s not actually compensation all, which implies innocence, but an ‘ ex gratia’ or ‘go away’ payment, which the minister was quick to point out. The squeaky wheel got oiled, but not surprising by the ever progressive Nats. No one ever talks about the victims either, sadly, least of all Karam and co.

    • Ross 23.1

      When David Bain wrote an affidavit prior to Ian Binnie writing his report, it made for interesting reading.

      My personal possessions have not been returned to me. For example, I had a full diving kit (SCUBA tank, gear and wet suit), collection of books, clothes, sporting and camping gear, certificates of my academic and sporting achievements, videos of the shows I had taken part in and recordings of my singing. I have no idea where any of these items are and do not know what happened to them after my relatives took possession of the house and its contents. Nothing has ever been disclosed to me.

      The wrongful conviction of me in 1995 took away my inheritance. My Dad had a beautiful collection of string instruments and Mum had her pottery. These items are only a tiny amount of the items they collected during their lives and all have been lost to me. Further examples are Stephen’s trumpet and Arawa’s flute, a collection of opals from Australia, a collection of Royal Doulton pieces, artwork, books, music, the land and the house itself.

      On top of all this, Mum and Dad had amassed an impressive library of photos and videos documenting the m any years they had been together and our family growing up together. All of these items, while not having great monetary value, all have a far higher sentimental value to me as they were my family’s possessions and would have been the things I could have remembered them by. Now all I have are the few photos released by my relatives to the Court for Use during the 2009 retrial.

      When I was arrested in June 1994, I was at University studying for a degree in Music and Drama. I had a strong interest in singing. I had found this vocation to be of great interest and hoped to pursue either a performance based career or, with the strong teaching background of my family, a teaching position.

      I have been told that I had the potential to have a career as successful as the New Zealand opera singer Jonathan Lemalu. Mr Lemalu is now engaged two years in advance and is singing all over the world. In 1992, my singing teacher told me when I started lessons that I had a wonderful voice and that I could one day create a valuable career For myself.

      Since my arrest in June 1994, I have not taken part in any form of musical expression as the trauma of the events I experienced has taken the joy of music away from me. The wrongful conviction of me and the time I spent in prison meant that the life I was planning has gone out the window. I feel as though I lost the major earning years of my life.

      No self awareness whatsoever. And throughout his 8 page affidavit, not a single mention of what his parents and siblings meant to him. It’s all me, me, me, I could’ve been the next Pavarotti.

  24. Tanz 24

    Yes, he never ever mentions his family. It’s all me me me. Illusions of grandeur/narcissim? That Binnie report is ridiculous, ignoring nearly all the physical evidence. Good on Collins, she showed spine on this, I always thought the first jury got it right, and the privy council made a progressive, weak and pandering decision.

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    PunditBy Phil Vine
    1 week ago
  • 2020 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming Digest #12
    Story of the Week... Toon of the Week... Climate Feedback Article Review... Coming Soon on SkS... Climate Feedback Claim Reviews... SkS Week in Review... Poster of the Week... Story of the Week... In Just 10 Years, Warming Has Increased the Odds of Disasters The likelihood of extreme events ...
    1 week ago
  • We are all socialists now
    Last week, the government announced a $12 billion initial package to support people during the pandemic. Today, the Reserve Bank is buying government bonds - effectively printing money - to keep up the money supply during the crisis. Normally such moves would have the right apoplectic. Instead, the National Party ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • A plea to experts: safeguard your role in public life
    I am a pundit, somebody who opines and comments on the news. There are no real qualifications to punditry though having a rudimentary way with words and good general knowledge helps. That is one reason there is a constant oversupply of would-be pundits and why it is quite hard to ...
    PunditBy Liam Hehir
    1 week ago
  • Enlightenment when?
    I recently encountered the following prescription from a Faculty of Education at a leading New Zealand University. At first I wondered if it was another product of the postmodern generator (http://www.elsewhere.org/journal/pomo/), designed to create gibberish in the postmodern form, but I’m told it is real: The “schooled” society: Towards the ...
    SciBlogsBy Michael Corballis
    1 week ago
  • What the Crisis Can teach Us
    The coronavirus pandemic has of course had a major impact on individual lives and on societies as a whole. But, long after the crisis has passed (assuming it does), we will begin to realise that its real and lasting significance lies in the lessons it has taught us, if only ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • Hammering home measures to stop COVID-19
    COVID-19 has plunged Aotearoa New Zealand (indeed, the world) into territory that, while maybe not totally unprecedented, certainly hasn’t been seen during the lifetimes of most of us here today. Our borders are closed to non-citizens, we’re being told not to gather in groups of more than 500 outside/100 inside, ...
    PunditBy Andrew Geddis
    1 week ago
  • What does ‘level two’ mean – and why does it matter?
    For the last few weeks, I’ve been urging you to prepare yourself, your family, business, and community for Covid-19. Now it’s time for real action.  Yesterday the director-general of health Dr Ashley Bloomfield announced another 13 confirmed cases of Covid-19 in New Zealand, bringing our total to date to 52. ...
    SciBlogsBy Siouxsie Wiles
    1 week ago
  • 2020 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #12
    A chronological listing of news articles linked to on the Skeptical Science Facebook Page during the past week, i.e., Sun, Mar 15, 2020 through Sat, Mar 21, 2020 Editor's Pick Now Isn’t the Time to Forget About Our Climate Change Efforts   Tasha Tilberg, Lindsey Wixson, and Liu Wen photographed ...
    1 week ago
  • Is the Guardian becoming  a real newspaper again?
    by Jan Rivers The article has been corrected to show that it was Ewen MacAskill, former Guardian journalist and not Luke Harding who travelled to meet Edward Snowden with journalist Glenn Greenwald and filmmaker Laura Poitras.  Some of the Guardian’s well-known journalists who did not sign the protest letter are ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Life asserts itself regardless
    by Cultural Worker Late March 2020 amidst the virus. With gigs crashing and burning all around it was without much hope that I called a long standing rest home booking: “ Hi, I’m supposed to be entertaining at your place this afternoon – is it still on?” “”If you don’t ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Politics, the possible, and the pandemic
    Whenever people demand real change from their politicians, we're told that "politics is the art of the possible". The implication is that change isn't possible, so we'd better just get used to the sucky status quo. But now that there's a pandemic, a lot of things we were previously told ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • The Only Way Through This Crisis Is Together.
    Together: In leading New Zealand through the Covid-19 Pandemic, the Prime Minister could do a lot worse than allow herself to be guided by the spirit of collective sacrifice and co-operation that animated the New Zealanders of 80 years ago. Most Kiwis alive today have had no opportunity to prove their ...
    2 weeks ago
  • GFC vs Covid-19
    It is said that generals fight the last war. In the case of the early stages of the Global Financial Crisis (GFC) they had learned from the Great Depression of the 1930s and they fought intelligently and successfully. Later their advice would be ignored in favour of the Austerians who ...
    PunditBy Brian Easton
    2 weeks ago
  • Nobody Left Behind.
    Solidarity Forever: All over the world, the arrival of the Covid-19 virus has exposed the fragility of the walls we erect around ourselves and our loved ones. It has shattered our illusions of autonomy and revealed to us how utterly dependent we all are on other human-beings. Finally, we see ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Rebuilding a truly “Democratic” counter, or a “moderate Republican” bolt-hol...
    Looking across the various arguments for/against the leading candidates to take the Democratic Nomination, you might honestly be very hard pressed to tell. There are a number of things that have now started happening since Amy Klobuchar and “Mayor Pete” Buttigieg both threw the towel in and immediately (and ...
    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    2 weeks ago
  • Abortion law reform a win for women
    by Daphna Whitmore Abortion is no longer in the Crimes Act in New Zealand. The law reform passed yesterday and now abortion is a medical matter between a woman and her doctor. Many women’s groups and progressive people have campaigned for reform for decades. The women’s liberation movement and some ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • How to spot bogus science stories and read the news like a scientist
    Doug Specht, University of Westminster and Julio Gimenez, University of Westminster When fake news, misreporting and alternative facts are everywhere, reading the news can be a challenge. Not only is there plenty of misinformation about the coronavirus pandemic, climate change and other scientific topics floating around social media, you also ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    2 weeks ago
  • Why New Zealand needs to continue decisive action to contain coronavirus
    Michael Baker, University of Otago and Nick Wilson, University of Otago With some of the toughest border restrictions and a newly-announced NZ$500 million boost to health services, New Zealand is among a small number of countries with a strategy to contain the COVID-19 pandemic. New Zealand is also fortunate in ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    2 weeks ago
  • Parliament and the pandemic II
    As expected, the government has introduced a sessional order to allow Parliament to operate during the pandemic. You can read it on the Order Paper here, but the short version is that questions and motions can be filed electronicly, select committees can work remotely, and the the Business Committee can ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • When a virus goes viral: pros and cons to the coronavirus spread on social media
    Axel Bruns, Queensland University of Technology; Daniel Angus, Queensland University of Technology; Timothy Graham, Queensland University of Technology, and Tobias R. Keller, Queensland University of Technology News and views about coronavirus has spread via social media in a way that no health emergency has done before. Platforms like Twitter, Facebook, ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    2 weeks ago
  • How to survive 14 days of self-isolation
    So you’ve recently returned from overseas, come into contact with someone who tested positive, got a bit of a dry cough yourself or perhaps just want to self isolate for 14 days to avoid other people who might have COVID-19. Here are a few tips and tricks to help get ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Abortion Legislation Bill passes third reading
    Some fave speeches:     ...
    Boots TheoryBy Stephanie Rodgers
    2 weeks ago
  • Why Leadership Matters – More Than Anything.
    Our Good Fortune: Precisely because she has never been an ideologue (she calls herself a “pragmatic idealist”) Jacinda Ardern has a political nimbleness and spontaneity which, when infused with her exceptional emotional intelligence, produces spectacular demonstrations of leadership. Jacinda's empathic political personality contrasts sharply with the less-than-sunny ways of her ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Skeptical Science New Research for Week #11, 2020
    2 weeks ago
  • 68-51
    The Abortion Legislation Bill has just passed its third reading, 68-51. NZ First MPs bailed because their referendum amendment didn't pass, but there were plenty of MPs to provide a majority without them. The bill is a long way from perfect - most significantly, it subjects pregnant people who need ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • The ‘herd immunity’ route to fighting coronavirus is unethical and potentially dangerous
    As most of the world tries to suppress the coronavirus spread, some countries are going it alone – trying to manage the pandemic through so-called “herd immunity”. Herd immunity means letting a large number of people catch a disease, and hence develop immunity to it, to stop the virus spreading. ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    2 weeks ago
  • Eight new COVID-19 cases today. It’s no surprise when you look at some numbers
    So, as I sit at home with a very, very slight headache (i.e. not at work when I would otherwise be so), the now familiar figure of Ashley Bloomfield reports eight new confirmed cases of COVID-19  including two in Waikato. A surprise, given that we had just twelve yesterday? No. ...
    SciBlogsBy Marcus Wilson
    2 weeks ago

  • Christchurch Hospital Hagley ICU to open to support COVID-19 response
    Health Minister Dr David Clark says 36 new intensive care beds at Christchurch Hospital’s new Hagley building are being fast tracked so they are available for treatment of COVID-19 patients.   The Ministry of Health is working with contractor CPB and Canterbury DHB to enable access to the hospital’s ICU, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    12 hours ago
  • Government supports Air NZ freight flights
    The Government has fast-tracked up to $1 million to help Air New Zealand move urgent freight to and from New Zealand, with the first flight to Shanghai leaving tonight, Transport Minister Phil Twyford announced today. Phil Twyford says it’s crucial that trade in vital goods such as medical supplies and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    22 hours ago
  • Tariff concessions on COVID-19 related products
    New Zealand will temporarily remove tariffs on all medical and hygiene imports needed for the COVID-19 response. Trade and Export Growth Minister David Parker and Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Kris Faafoi said today that the New Zealand Customs Service will apply tariff concessions to all diagnostic reagents and testing ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Clarification of modification to wage subsidy scheme
    Minister of Finance Grant Robertson has clarified that the changes to the wage subsidy scheme announced yesterday mean that employers should be passing on the full subsidy to workers, except in the case where the person’s normal income is less than the level of the subsidy. “We still want employers ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Face masks flowing to DHBs
    Medical face masks from the national reserve supply are now being distributed to District Health Boards, while at the same time local production is being ramped up. Yesterday more than 640,000 masks were sent to DHBS – that is an immediate two week supply, with more to follow in coming ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • COVID-19: Further steps to protect New Zealanders’ jobs
    The Government has made modifications to the wage subsidy scheme to ensure people don’t lose their jobs during the national lockdown. These changes will soften the impact of COVID-19 on workers, families and businesses, and position them to exit the lockdown and look to recovery, Finance Minister Grant Robertson says. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Tax relief for Mycoplasma Bovis farmers
    Farmers whose herds were culled in response to the outbreak of Mycoplasma bovis will be able to minimise the tax treatment of their income in some circumstances. Revenue Minister Stuart Nash says Cabinet has agreed to change the law. It means farmers may be eligible to spread their income over ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • $27 million for NGOs and community groups to continue providing essential services
    A $27 million dollar package, effective immediately, is being provided to social sector services and community groups to ensure they can continue to provide essential support to communities as we stay at home as a nation to stop the spread of COVID-19, Minister for Social Development Carmel Sepuloni announced. “At ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Statement on guilty plea of March 15 terrorist
    “The guilty plea today will provide some relief to the many people whose lives were shattered by what happened on March 15,” Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said. “These guilty pleas and conviction bring accountability for what happened and also save the families who lost loved ones, those who were injured, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • COVID-19 updates
    The Prime Minister is holding daily press conferences to update New Zealanders on the Government's response to COVID-19. Links to videos and transcripts of these updates below. These transcripts also include All of Government press conferences led by Director Ministry of Health's Director-General of Health Dr Ashley Bloomfield. 25 March: Live update from the Prime ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Police numbers break through 10,000 mark
    Frontline Police numbers have broken through the 10,000 mark for the first time in history as officers step forward to keep the community safe during the COVID19 lockdown. “Two Police graduations in Auckland and Wellington in the past week have been conducted in unprecedented circumstances,” Police Minister Stuart Nash said. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Urgent tax measures for economic recovery
    Urgent legislation has been passed to support the package of economic and social measures needed to recover from the impact of the coronavirus outbreak. “The COVID-19 Response (Taxation and Social Assistance Urgent Measures) Bill will cushion New Zealanders from the worst economic impacts of the COVID-19 outbreak,” said Revenue Minister ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Further support for farmers and growers as drought persists
    From tomorrow, Government support for farmers and growers affected by drought will be expanded and extended across the country, with access to Rural Assistance Payments (RAPS) available throughout the North Island, parts of the South Island and the Chatham Islands, Social Development Minister Carmel Sepuloni announced. “These challenging conditions have ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • COVID-19: Temporary changes to Education Act
    Parliament has passed amendments to legislation that give the Secretary of Education stronger powers to act in the fight to limit the spread of COVID-19, Education Minister Chris Hipkins said today. “They are part of a suite of changes passed under the COVID-19 Response (Urgent Management Measures) Legislation Bill,” Chris ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Canada, Australia, Chile, Brunei and Myanmar join NZ and Singapore in committing to keeping supply a...
    Canada, Australia, Chile, Brunei and Myanmar have joined forces with New Zealand and Singapore by committing to keep supply chains open and remove any existing trade restrictive measures on essential goods, especially medical supplies, in the face of the Covid-19 crisis.  Trade and Export Growth Minister David Parker today welcomed ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • COVID-19: Rent increase freeze and more protection for tenants
    Immediate freeze on rent increases Tenancies will not be terminated during the lock-down period, unless the parties agree, or in limited circumstances Tenants who had previously given notice can stay in their if they need to stay in the tenancy during the lock-down period Tenants will still be able to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Working together to protect businesses and workers
    As New Zealand unites to lock-down in the fight against COVID-19, the Finance Minister is urging all businesses and workers to stay connected over the next four weeks. “We understand the extreme pressure many businesses are under right now. I know most business owners think of their workers as family ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • State of National Emergency declared to fight COVID-19
    A State of National Emergency has been declared across the country as the Government pulls out all the stops to curtail the spread of COVID-19. “Today we put in place our country’s second ever State of National Emergency as we fight a global pandemic, save New Zealanders’ lives and prevent ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Prime Minister’s statement on State of National Emergency and Epidemic Notice
    Mr Speaker I wish to make a Ministerial Statement under Standing Order 347 in relation to the recent declaration of a State of National Emergency. Having considered the advice of the Director Civil Defence Emergency Management, the Minister of Civil Defence declared a State of National Emergency for the whole of ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Deadline for domestic travel extended
    People needing to travel on domestic flights, trains and Cook Strait ferries to get home before the country moves into level 4 lock-down tomorrow night will be able to continue using the passenger services until midnight on Friday, Transport Minister Phil Twyford said today. Domestic passenger services, particularly ferries, have ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Mortgage holiday and business finance support schemes to cushion COVID impacts
    The Government, retail banks and the Reserve Bank are today announcing a major financial support package for home owners and businesses affected by the economic impacts of COVID-19. The package will include a six month principal and interest payment holiday for mortgage holders and SME customers whose incomes have been ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Government working to keep air freight moving
    Minister of Transport Phil Twyford has today announced details of the Government’s support package to keep key air freight moving and ensure New Zealanders retain access to essential goods during the four-week level 4 lockdown. “The Government is working with airlines and air freight operators to ensure New Zealand’s key ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • New Zealand moves to COVID-19 Alert Level 3, then Level 4 in 48 hours
    New Zealand moved up to COVID-19 Alert Level 3 – Restrict New Zealand to move up to COVID-19 Alert Level 4 – Eliminate, in 48 hours Two-staged approach to give people and businesses time to prepare  Level 3, from tomorrow Non-essential businesses must close All events and gatherings must be ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Prime Minister: COVID-19 Alert Level increased
    Good afternoon  The Cabinet met this morning to discuss our next actions in the fight against COVID-19.  Like the rest of the world, we are facing the potential for devastating impacts from this virus. But, through decisive action, and through working together, do we have a small window to get ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Govt takes significant economic decisions as NZ readies for Alert Level 4 in COVID-19 fight
    The Government is announcing significant further support for the economy, workers and businesses as the country unites to prepare for Alert Level 4 in the fight against COVID-19. Cabinet today agreed to remove the cap on the Government’s wage subsidy scheme, which will inject a further $4 billion into the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Govt backs RBNZ move to support economy with lower interest rates
    The Government is backing the Reserve Bank’s latest action to support the economy by reducing longer-term interest rates, meaning lower costs for businesses and mortgage holders, and a lower currency to help our exporters. The Minister of Finance has signed a memorandum of understanding and a letter of indemnity with ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Government statement on commercial cooperation during COVID-19
    The Government has asked the Commerce Commission to take account of the exceptional circumstances created by COVID-19 when monitoring business behaviour in coming weeks.   “The purpose of my request to the Commerce Commission is to make sure businesses can work together in ways that will allow them to provide ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • New Zealand temporarily closes diplomatic posts in Barbados and Myanmar due to COVID-19
    The New Zealand Government has temporarily closed its High Commission in Bridgetown, Barbados and its Embassy in Yangon, Myanmar due to the COVID-19 pandemic, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says.   “Due to the increasing scarcity of air links in and out of Bridgetown and Yangon, and the pressure COVID-19 is placing ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Supporting Māori communities and businesses through
    Associate Health and Whānau Ora Minister Peeni Henare has today announced the Government’s plan to support Māori communities and businesses in the face of COVID-19. “Our Government’s $12.1 billion economic package will help many Māori whānau, workers and businesses, whether it’s through wage subsidies, income support and worker redeployment, or ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Guidelines for hospitality establishments released
    The Government and the hospitality industry have worked together to produce guidelines to assist with managing and reducing transmission of COVID-19, Health Minister David Clark announced today.  The guidelines developed between the Government, Hospitality New Zealand and SkyCity Entertainment Group, set out how the new restrictions on physical distancing and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Nation steps up to COVID-19 Alert Level 2
    Four stage Alert System for COVID-19 announced New Zealand moved up to COVID-19 Alert Level 2 – Reduce Contact New Zealanders over 70 and those with certain medical conditions told to stay at home as much as they can to reduce risk of contact with the virus Workplaces to implement ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • PM Address – Covid-19 Update
    Kia ora koutou katoa I’m speaking directly to all New Zealanders today to give you as much certainty and clarity as we can as we fight Covid-19. Over the past few weeks, the world has changed. And it has changed very quickly. In February it would have seemed unimaginable to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • NZ and Singapore commit to keeping supply and trade links open, including on essential goods and med...
    New Zealand and Singapore have jointly committed to keep supply chains open and to remove any existing trade restrictive measures on essential goods, especially medical supplies, in the face of the Covid-19 crisis. Trade and Export Growth Minister David Parker welcomed the commitment. “This is an important collective response, and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Joint Ministerial Statement by Singapore and New Zealand -Covid-19 situation
    JOINT MINISTERIAL STATEMENT BY SINGAPORE AND NEW ZEALAND AFFIRMING COMMITMENT TO ENSURING SUPPLY CHAIN CONNECTIVITY AMIDST THE COVID-19 SITUATION  The COVID-19 pandemic is a serious global crisis.  As part of our collective response to combat COVID-19, Singapore and New Zealand are committed to maintaining open and connected supply chains. We ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Transit between Australia and New Zealand
    Travel restrictions, closing our border to almost all travelers came into force from 23:59 on Thursday 19 March 2020 (NZDT).  All airlines were informed of these restrictions before they came into force. Immigration Minister Iain Lees-Galloway says “The transit of passengers between Australia and New Zealand has been agreed upon and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • $100 million to redeploy workers
    The Government has allocated $100 million to help redeploy workers affected by the economic impact of COVID-19, with the hard-hit region of Gisborne-Tairāwhiti to be the first helped, Economic Development Minister Phil Twyford, Forestry and Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones and Employment Minister Willie Jackson announced today. Phil Twyford ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • More support for wood processing
    The Provincial Growth Fund (PGF) is ramping up support for Tairāwhiti’s wood processing sector to bolster the region’s economy at a time of heightened uncertainty, Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones announced today. Following earlier announcements today of a regional support package for Tairāwhiti, Minister Jones has also announced a ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Govt steps in to protect Air New Zealand
    The Coalition Government has stepped in to protect Air New Zealand with a significant financial deal that protects essential routes and allows the company to keep operating. The Government and Air New Zealand have agreed a debt funding agreement through commercial 24-month loan facilities of up to $900 million*. The ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Stronger border measures to protect NZers from COVID-19
    The Government has taken further measures to protect New Zealanders from the COVID-19 virus, effectively stopping all people from boarding a plane to New Zealand from 11:59pm today, except for returning New Zealanders, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced today.  New Zealanders’ partners, legal guardians or any dependent children travelling with ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Action on indoor gatherings and events to protect public health
    The Government has reinforced its commitment to protecting the health of New Zealanders from COVID-19 through the cancellation of indoor events with more than 100 people.  “Protecting the health of New Zealanders is our number one priority, and that means we need to reduce the risks associated with large gatherings,” ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago