Brethren taking subsidies for illegal discrimination

Written By: - Date published: 10:16 pm, January 13th, 2011 - 64 comments
Categories: business, corruption, crime, kiwisaver, religion - Tags: ,

Another great piece of work from I/S at No Right Turn:

According to a report in the Herald, the Exclusive Brethren have set up their own KiwiSaver scheme. That’s not particularly interesting, but what caught my attention is that the scheme will only be offered to members of the cult:

In its prospectus, released just before Christmas, the BCF scheme made it clear that membership would be – no surprises here – exclusive: sorry Richard, this one’s for the bros only.

This is, of course, illegal. Religious belief is a prohibited form of discrimination, and no institution is allowed to discriminate on those grounds in the provision of goods and services…

…The Brethren are collecting government subsidies to engage in this discriminatory behaviour (in fact, that’s the point – using KiwiSaver subsidies as a line of easy credit to boost their businesses). That should not be permitted. Taxpayer’s money should not be used to subsidise discrimination.

I assume that the responsible Ministers, Peter Dunne and Bill English, will immediately be seeking answers and stop the Exclusive Brethren from engaging in illegal discrimination and receiving taxpayer money to do it.

If you’re unhappy about your money being used by the Brethern to subsidise their business, tell IRD you want to switch to their provider – BCF Finance – and demand to know why when your application is rejected.

64 comments on “Brethren taking subsidies for illegal discrimination”

  1. Deadly_NZ 1

    I assume that the responsible Ministers, Peter Dunne and Bill English, will immediately be seeking answers and stop the Exclusive Brethren from engaging in illegal discrimination and receiving taxpayer money to do it.

    If it wasn’t so serious it would be a funny line, or at least a tui moment. But Please please do not use the word responsible in the same sentence as those 2 names unless it has the other 2 letters needed IR in front of the word..
    But whats to stop Joe public from applying to their Kiwi Saver scheme , and get knocked back they appeal their decision I am sure the works could get gummed up that way, and get enough people to do it should cost em a pretty penny.

  2. QoT 2

    (Psst, Eddie, typo in the headline)

  3. Chris73 3

    As a self-proclaimed right-winger I’m not happy about this and I hope some action is taken

    • Neptune 3.1

      So do I Chris73. Just become a self proclaimed Left – winger!

    • I would be unhappy if I was a self professed right winger as well …

      BTW I do not know how I/S does it. He always seems to be on the cutting edge of stories.

      • Chris73 3.2.1

        As I see it either the Bretheren are either acting within the rules which were set up by Labour (who to be fair probably didn’t consider this type of thing happening) which means this is a loophole which needs to be closed or they’re straight out breaking the law which means the police need to be involved

        But for me its nothing to do with their religion as this could easily be replicated by a maori tribe or gang like the hells angels etc etc

        • Draco T Bastard 3.2.1.1

          Of course it’s to do with their religion as the discrimination that they’re perpetrating is based solely on their religion.

      • Chris73 3.2.2

        What do you mean you don’t know how I/S does it? I/S got it from the Herald

        • Mickysavage 3.2.2.1

          Please reread my comment. I said “cutting edge” I did not say “break”. I/S day in day out manages to blog on immediate issues of note.

          As to your other rules I suspect that Cullen relied on the New Zealand Bill of Rights Act which says words to the effect “though shalt not discriminate on the grounds of religion”. There was no need to have any more rules as the rules were already there.

          Good attempted diversion thought. It is not Blinglish’s or Dunne’s fault for approving the scheme, it is Cullens because, well, it must be …

          • luva 3.2.2.1.1

            Micky, what are English and Dunne responsible for exactly?

            Closing the loophole or enforcing the law?

            • Bright Red 3.2.2.1.1.1

              enforcing the law.

              what loophole are you talking about?

              • luva

                That is my point BR, if there is no loophole to fix then there is no problem with the law and there is no need for English and Dunne to be in this debate.

                They make the rules; others enforce them

                It is the role of the Police and Courts to enforce the law. Lets not confuse the respective roles just so we can associate Bill English with this.

                • burt

                  luva

                  I don’t think the lefties ever understood that there is a separation of judicial roles between the legislature, the police and the courts. If they did they would not have supported Labour deciding that Labour didn’t break the law. Move on.

          • Chris73 3.2.2.1.2

            Um I thought I was being pretty fair actually, I imagine it would be difficult to imagine a relgious group starting up a kiwisaver scheme (I certainly hadn’t thought about it untill the article in the herald) or they’re acting illegally

            So I wasn’t actually pointing the finger at anyone rather just stating the facts and what can/should be done

            I don’t think this is a political point rather just tightning some rules

            • mcflock 3.2.2.1.2.1

              The problem as far as I can see is not who created the scheme, but the fact this particular fund has membership restricted on the basis of religion. Given that some churches employ their minister/pastor/priests and various ancillary staff directly, I would be surprised if they didn’t make a decision to create a Kiwisaver fund like any other company.

              As for “blame”, I agree with other commentators that it is a job for folk like the police (or being BoR I assume it’s the job of the Human Rights Commission if they receive a formal complaint? Then firing it through to I assume the IRD if the HRC determines the BoR has been WIA, but the decision has to be formally and fairly arrived at before the referral is TBA? I’m sure procedural regulations can be obtained via OIA or some other TLA 🙂 ) .

  4. Liberty 4

    Labour set up kiwi saver. Now out smarted by the EB .
    Doesn’t say much for the then Minister in charge. A Mr Cullen.

    • Marty G 4.1

      how has Labour been outsmarted? The EB is acting illegally, not exploiting a loophole. National is in charge (this provider only just registered) – it’s their job to stop this breach of human rights.

      not looking too smart, son.

      • liberty 4.1.1

        It is not illegal. The EB are just astute at business.
        This bitch by the labour apologist has more to do with religious intolerance .

        • prism 4.1.1.1

          It seems that Exclusive Brethren are astute at business and money control and exploiting it to advance their narrow beliefs. It is uncomfortable to have religious groups or perhaps cults, using government funds to bolster their exclusive schemes. Are religious groups likely to dispense gratuities to those in power is one thing that concerns people? Does this threaten the separation of church and state? Concern expressed is not simple religious intolerance.

    • Tiwkcuf …

      If you think Cullen is responsible you need professional help bro ..

    • luva 4.3

      If it is a loophole then English and Dunne are responsible for closing it.

      If there is no loophole and the EB are breaking the law, then Parliament has done it’s job and the relevant authorities are responsible for enforcing the law.

      Which one is it?

      • mickysavage 4.3.1

        I hate to get legal but the Government Actuary decides on registration of Kiwisaver schemes. Under section 116 of the Kiwisaver Act “[a] scheme is eligible to be a KiwiSaver scheme if … it is … established and governed by a trust deed that is interpreted and administered in accordance with New Zealand law.”

        The bold bit should mean that the Actuary has some powers. Further provisions (s 169) give the Actuary considerable powers over registered schemes.

        There appears to be nothing wrong with the law. Perhaps a complaint should be made.

  5. TightyRighty 5

    I’m unhappy about this. But I’ll be vilified for being unhappy about my money being used to support gang members on the Dole on this site. So where is the balance? Whoops, I know you are partisan, so really where is the story? As I bet more gang members are claiming the Dole than bretheren claiming kiwisaver. Any takers?

    • Tigger 5.1

      WTF? If someone can make sense of this logic then they’re doing better than me…

      • QoT 5.1.1

        Apparently there’s some Black Power-members-only KiwiSaver scheme we haven’t heard about. TR’s going to break the story any day now. Otherwise he’s just making a hilarious false equivalence between “an organisation breaking the law by discriminating on the basis of religion while administering a scheme for which it receives government funds” and “people getting benefits while being people I Don’t Like”.

  6. highrestandard 6

    I blame Sarah Palin.

  7. SjS 7

    I work for local government, and was offered the chance to join the exclusive local government kiwisaver scheme available only to employees of local government (I declined and went with GMK, as it is NZ owned an apparently responsibly invested, but I would have been better putting the money in the bank). Is this somesort of discrimination as well? Or is it something that is actually legal under kiwisaver? Genuine question … I actually don’t know the answer…

    • marco 7.1

      Most local and central government departments have their own schemes that are similar to Kiwisaver but not managed the same way therefore they are treated as employee schemes. I’m unsure if this would be the case for your particular local body though, it would probably pay to check.

    • Lanthanide 7.2

      “(I declined and went with GMK, as it is NZ owned an apparently responsibly invested, but I would have been better putting the money in the bank).”

      I too am with GMK, and think they’re great. They say (probably not often enough) that their guiding principal is wealth protection, followed by growth. If you watch the charts for performance over 2008-2009, you’ll see that the other providers dropped off far more than GMK did, and therefore had steep return.

      I think my account is sitting at just slightly positive, something like 0.9% up. I would’ve done better on a return basis to have put the money in the bank, *except* that ignores the matching money I get from the government and from my employer. So while I might be only 0.9% up on the total value, actually I’m (roughly) 200% up on what money I have actually invested myself, and I’d like to see a bank interest rate that gives you 200% return.

      • SjS 7.2.1

        point taken lanthanide

        I joined at the begining of 2009 so missed seeing GMK not loose all my money (but that was also a part of my decision to go with them, along with the responsible investment). But since then I’ve had about the same as you at around 1%, but once I count the extra money from my employer and the credits I am better off. It would be great it I could put the extra money from my employer and my own in the bank, but then that would be against the point of kiwisaver (which I think is a good idea) as not everyone is a good saver unless they can’t get it back out again.

        • Lanthanide 7.2.1.1

          Yeah, I joined in 2009 also. After my work announced a pay freeze (normally there’s an annual pay rise for everyone) I figured I’d force them to give me a 2% one. Also I was hoping to get in on the rebound in share prices, but unfortunately there’s the ~3 month lag time between when you join and when the IRD actually hands the money over to your provider, so I missed out on the big growth months.

  8. ghostwhowalksnz 8

    Not a lot of details available from the Government Actuary
    BCF Kiwisaver
    Registration Number: 10071
    Balance Date: 31 March
    Default Provider: No
    Commencement Date: 02 September 2010
    Names of Trustees: AROTAHI TRUST LIMITED
    Trustee Address for Service: 160 BUSH ROAD
    ALBANY, AUCKLAND 2578

  9. nadis 9

    You guys need to read the legislation. Put aside questions of we like/don’t like the brethren. What they are doing is perfectly legal and provided for in relevant legislation, from the original kiwisaver bill to the 2010 Financial markets bill.

    There is a category of Kiwisaver funds called “restricted funds”. Currently about 9 of them covering religious groups (bretheren, anglicans), industries (waterfront workers), occupations (architects, engineers and surveyors, seafarers, doctors) etc.

    The legislation allows a restricted scheme with the following clause…..

    A restricted kiwi saver scheme must (amongst other things):

    “restrict membership of the scheme, in its conditions of entry of members to the scheme and in the way in which those conditions are applied, to 1 or more classes of persons who are employed by a particular employer, or who belong to a particular profession, calling, trade, or occupation, or to a particular association, society, or other body having a definable community of interest.”

    I think “definable community of interest” appropriately covers the brethren or any other religious, trade, racial, professional or other organisation that wants to retain its special identity in the Kiwisaver world.

    I imagine the Bretheren have some kind of organisation or society, membership of which is a prerequisite to enrol in their scheme. Just like any other restricted scheme.

    I think you should be more concerned about that horrible SRF kiwisaver scheme. Did you know that unless you are a member or family of a member of one particular union that you can’t join that scheme? It’s a disgrace. My taxes are going to prop up a kiwisaver scheme just for unionists and their families! Just wait till a Maori organisation sets up a Kiwisaver scheme for members of their tribal organisation. That would be racist right? Even more disgraceful.

    Ngai Tahu have set up a non-restricted scheme “iwisaver”, not much of a stretch to see them or another iwi (appropriately) setting up a restricted scheme. And why not? Why also not a scheme just for indian small business owners and their families, or mongrel mob members and their families. All these members are getting exactly the same government benefit as any KS member in a non-restricted scheme.

    So, do we object to anglicans, unionists, professionals, doctors etc “collecting government subsidies to engage in this discriminatory behaviour” or is it just that when the brethren do it that we don’t like it?

    • Chris73 9.1

      Well played

    • Nadis can you state which section you are quoting from?

      The only reference I can see to the passage that you quoted is from the Financial Markets (Regulators and KiwiSaver) Bill 2010 which as far as I am aware is not law as yet.

      Besides I do not see that it allows for state support of a religion in the way you suggest.

  10. Bill 10

    As far as I’m aware, an employee of a Brethren business does not themselves have to be a Brethren (That would be religious discrimination.) So, if the scheme covers employees in their businesses, there is no discrimination. No?

    • burt 10.1

      Bill

      You might be right but remember that the EB campaigned against Labour in 2005. Labour have since been on a crusade against them changing the law so that they couldn’t do what they legally did in 2005 because it upset the poor Labour party and made them steal tax payers money to defend themselves from free speech.

    • Lanthanide 10.2

      A friend used to work at a company owned by the brethren. She said it was very weird and they were quite open about their religion, but there was nothing stopping anyone from working there depending on their religion. Having said that, though, I think that if you weren’t part of the sect you’d have a hard time advancing up the promotion ladder.

  11. nadis 11

    I haven’t read their trust deed but by the looks of what David Chaplin wrote in the herald it is not a workplace based scheme. I imagine it will be open only to individuals who are members of a particular society, all of whose members happen to be brethren or fellow travelers.

    Here is the language from the restricted Anglican scheme:

    The Koinonia Fund is principally intended to provide retirement benefits for employees of persons whose primary activities are, in the opinion of the Trustees, Christian mission or ministry and other persons who the Trustees consider have served their church in a particular way or made a particular commitment to Christian outreach. However, the Trustees may also (in their sole discretion) admit other persons, or classes of person, as members of the Fund.

    Question: More or less offensive than the brethren scheme?

  12. Deadly_NZ 12

    Now this will allow the EB’s to give more money to shonky donkey to get him reelected sohe can finish what he and Blinglish started. The complete meltdown of NZ’s economy, then they can call in their mates at the IMF to bail us out just like they did in Ireland. The first thing the IMF did there was Take the 20 billion euro’s in the superfund for themselves. All the working mans Money gone, however the poli’s and bankers are laughing at a complete stitch up of the irish people. Well they have an election coming in soon so maby these theives will get their marching orders and the damage they have done can be undone

    http://dailybail.com/home/may-god-protect-global-bankers-irish-leaders-castigated-as-g.html
    Thanks to Johnm i pinched his link.

    Or maybe Key is angling for an invitation to become a member of this exclusive club https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Bilderberg_Group

  13. nadis 13

    I think you fail the logic test Deadly. How does this profit the brethren above them just investing in say the Tower kiwisaver scheme?

    I would guess they have probably spent minimum $200 k in legal fees setting up a kiwisaver scheme – given their small membership, hard to see it making money for them, particularly after employing a few staff to run it. Again I would guess that this is more about control – they want a kiwisaver scheme but want to control the investment strategy and obviously have a black and white list of suitable investments.

    And I didn’t realise the brethren were mates with the IMF – that’s an interesting connection no one else had made. Forget bilderberg, this is the real conspiracy – in fact you can see John Key sitting next to 2 brethren at the far end of the table

    Funny thing about Bilderberg is that left wing nutters think it is a right wing conspiracy to steal the worlds resources for a small elite (typically Jewish bankers), whereas right wing nutters think it is a conspiracy to impose a new order one world government led by the godless UN with associated concentration camps and black helicopters. Maybe both sides are right?

    • Blighty 13.1

      you can’t refuse to supply a good or service on the basis of religion. That is the problem. It is not that the EB as individuals can join Kiwisaver.

  14. ghostwhowalksnz 14

    Soon we will have the Right Wing Resistance/National Front setting up their own Kiwisaver, with rules to exclude Jews, Maori/Polynesians ,Chinese and so on. All based on the same interpretation that EB have of the rules.

    I dont think so

    I cant see any judge allowing a clause in some financial legislation over riding the ban on discrimination based on religion. Others may have rules restricting members to ‘missionaries’ or trade union members , but those groups themselves are open to a wider membership and dont explicitly rule out other ethnic or religious groups.

  15. Akldnut 15

    They must have started doing this just recently because BCF Finance wasn’t on the list of Providers as at 8/11/2010.
    http://www.kiwisaver.govt.nz/providers/ks-providers.html

    According to the IRD you can change your KiwiSaver scheme at any time,………If you want to change your scheme, you must apply directly to the provider of the scheme you want to join. Your new provider will then arrange for your savings to be transferred from your old scheme to the new one. You’ll be notified of the transfer.
    You may be charged a transfer fee by your old scheme and will need to check this with your provider.

  16. Glee McPerkins 16

    Why is the man in the picture putting USA dollars in his pocket?

    • Marty G 16.1

      it’s our stock thumb image for corruption – businessman pocketing the cash. Don’t have one with NZD.

      • jcuknz 16.1.1

        Surely it is not to hard for somebody to do a bit of editing …I would offer to assist if wanted if nobody closer to you has the skills. I assumed it was a legal safeguard, that it is illegal to copy our own currency?.

      • Glee McPerkins 16.1.2

        Surly you could photograph someone in a suit putting NZ dollars in his pocket?

  17. jcuknz 17

    What a load of rabble rousing twaddle …. The Brethren are running their own super scheme for members .. just like I was a member of National Provident and Government Superannuation schemes.
    Both restricted to those eligible to join.

    How on earth can it be illegal? Basically the country needs people to save rather than splurge so I say good luck to them in defending their enterprise against the whingers and whiners.

    I have no connection with the group.

    • ghostwhowalksnz 17.1

      Its NOT a super scheme for their own members. Its a registered Kiwisaver scheme. As such it gets a lot of government subsidies which wouldnt apply to an ordinary super scheme.

  18. Swampy 18

    This is actually nonsense. Kiiwsaver schemes are allowed to have membership qualifications so that only people meeting membership criteria can enter them.

    Another example of getting on your high horse without checking the legislation first, dont you just laugh at how all these lefties do that when they know that the legislation was passed by Parliament and all they have to do is stop trying to pull wool over peoples eyes by making these stupid allegations.

    • ghostwhowalksnz 18.1

      membership yes , restriction on members solely on religious grounds, no.

      You can have special cases for ‘advancement’ of groups which have suffered from discrimination, clearly EB doesnt come into this category.

      For the purposes of this Act, the prohibited grounds of discrimination are—
      (a)sex, which includes pregnancy and childbirth:
      (b)marital status, which means being—
      (i)single; or
      (ii)married, in a civil union, or in a de facto relationship; or
      (iii)the surviving spouse of a marriage or the surviving partner of a civil union or de facto relationship; or
      (iv)separated from a spouse or civil union partner; or
      (v)a party to a marriage or civil union that is now dissolved, or to a de facto relationship that is now ended:
      (c)religious belief:
      (d)ethical belief, which means the lack of a religious belief, whether in respect of a particular religion or religions or all religions:
      (e)colour:
      (f)race:
      (g)ethnic or national origins, which includes nationality or citizens.

      Note lack of religious belief is a prohibited ground of discrimination.

  19. Swampy 19

    Its a scheme where theyre entitled to define who is allowed to be a member that is the right of any scheme or society they can impose choice of members

    As you can see there are other schemes that impose qualifications on which religions can join there schemes

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    SciBlogsBy Duncan Steel
    4 days ago
  • The rot at the top (2).
    Thanks to a report from the Acting Inspector General of Intelligence and Security following a complaint by Nicky Hager, we have come to find out that the SIS illegally spied on Mr. Hager on behalf of the NZDF after publication of Hager’s 2011 book, Other People’s Wars. The NZDF justified ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    4 days ago
  • Common misconceptions about “Global Warming”
    COMMON MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING MYTH 1: Global temperatures are rising at a rapid, unprecedented rate. FACT: The HadCRUT3 surface temperature index, produced by the Hadley Centre of the UK Met Office and the Climate Research Unit of the University of East Anglia, shows warming to 1878, cooling to 1911, ...
    An average kiwiBy admin@averagekiwi.com
    4 days ago
  • A climate of tyranny
    For the past week, Extinction Rebellion has been peacefully protesting in London to demand action on climate change. The British government's response? Ban their protests:Police have banned Extinction Rebellion protests from continuing anywhere in London, as they moved in almost without warning to clear protesters who remained at the movement’s ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Collins crushes climate
    An essay by Judith Collins MP reported on Carbon News yesterday seems to show an alarming shift in attitude within the National Party. Collins argues against the Zero Carbon Bill, the Paris Agreement, and downplays the magnitude of climate impacts. The Paris Agreement was adopted in December 2015 and ratified ...
    SciBlogsBy Robert McLachlan
    4 days ago
  • More disappointment
    When they were running for election, Labour promised to overhaul the Employment Relations Act and introduce fair pay agreements to set basic pay and conditions on an industry level, preventing bad employers from undercutting good ones. They followed this up by establishing a working group, which reported back in January ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • What do these mother-child studies really say about fluoridation?
    A list of indicators of bad science – many of these are found in articles promoted by anti-fluoride activists. Anti-fluoride activists have been pouring money into a scaremongering campaign warning pregnant women not to drink fluoridated water. They claim fluoride will lower the IQ of their future child. Fluoride ...
    4 days ago
  • Losing Labour’s Mills-Tone.
    Nothing Left To Say: Labour's pollster, Stephen Mills, remains swaddled-up in the comforting myths of the 1980s. As if the experience of Roger Douglas’s genuinely radical post-Muldoon policy agenda was literally a once-in-a-lifetime thing – as much as the party could possibly absorb for at least the next 50 years.MEMO ...
    4 days ago
  • Speaker: Disability and the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Historical Abuse
    The Royal Commission on abuse in care is very significant for the disability community. For many decades last century, thousands of disabled children, and adults who managed to survive, were locked away from families and communities. This was not for anything they had done, but for the perceived threat their ...
    4 days ago
  • Spain is not a democracy
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • UK Conservatives hate democracy
    With an unfair voting system, uneven electorates and an un-elected upper house, the UK's "democracy" is barely worthy of the name. But now the government wants to make it worse:The government has been accused of suppressing voters’ rights with the potential disenfranchisement of tens of thousands of people after plans ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • What is wrong with our building industry?
    Back in the 90's and early 2000's, the building industry was building leaky homes which should never have been granted consent. Now it turns out they've been building dodgy office blocks as well:New imaging technology has revealed hundreds of major buildings nationwide have defective or missing concrete or reinforcing steel. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Local bodies
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • A future of government
      How could government evolve over the next decades? Reports of democracy’s imminent demise are greatly exaggerated.  However, satisfaction with political systems in many countries is low, so there is much to do for governments of all political stripes to improve relevance and trust. Digital technologies are seen as one ...
    SciBlogsBy Robert Hickson
    1 week ago
  • Speaker: Catalonia, interrupted
    Two years have now gone by since the Friday afternoon when my university-student son and I headed out of our Barcelona flat to a nearby primary school, designated as a polling station for the vote that was to be held the following Sunday: the referendum on Catalonia’s independence from Spain ...
    1 week ago
  • Sage Decisions Unwisely Over-Ruled.
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    1 week ago
  • Government may ban voting in effort to get more people to do it
    More than double the number of people who will vote in this year’s local body elections have tried marijuana or urinated somewhere they shouldn’t have. As local elections look set for the lowest turnout in decades, with many regions falling well short of 40%, the Government is exploring a number ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Woman: Deleted.
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    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • The Hollowest of Men Ride Again… SURPRISE!
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    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    1 week ago
  • Barbaric
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Fighting Monsters.
    Freedom Of Speech? The Säuberung (cleansing by fire) was the work of the German Student Union which, on 10 May 1933, under the watchful eye of the Nazi Reichminister for Propaganda, Joseph Goebbels, consigned 25,000 books to the flames in a ritual exorcism of “un-German thought”. According to the logic of the ...
    1 week ago
  • The next wave of kaupapa Māori politics: its constitutional, it must be.
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    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    1 week ago
  • Night lights of NZ from orbit
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    SciBlogsBy Duncan Steel
    1 week ago
  • Reporters deliver uplifting news to fleeing Japanese residents: they won’t miss any rugby
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    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Government in contentious discussions about whether to put surplus on red or black
    Regional Development Minister Shane Jones is the only Cabinet member in favour of putting it all on green. As Finance Minister Grant Robertson finds himself with an enormous $7.5 billion surplus, the Government has begun intense, at times contentious conversations about whether to put the money on red or black at ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Jordanian teachers’ successful strike has lessons for here
    by Susanne Kemp At the start of September close to 100,000 school teachers went on strike in Jordan.  They demanded a 50% pay rise.  A pay rise actually agreed to by the regime back in 2014. In early October, however, in the face of government repression and threats, the teachers’ ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Why some people still think climate change isn’t real
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    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • The SIS unlawfully spied on Nicky Hager
    Back in 2011, journalist Nicky Hager published Other People's Wars, an expose on NZDF's activities over the previous decade of the "war on terror". NZDF didn't like this, and especially didn't like the fact that it was base don leaks from their own. So, they had the SIS investigate him ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • October 2019 – Newsletter
    https://mailchi.mp/7d9133add053/closing-the-gap-october-2019-newsletter ...
    Closing the GapBy Tracey Sharp
    1 week ago
  • And they wonder why we think they’re environmental vandals…
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Paying the price in California
    Last year, California burned. This year, to stop it happening again (or rather, to stop themselves from being found liable if it happens again), Pacific Gas and Electric is cutting power to half the state for a week:Schools are closed. Traffic lights down. Tunnels dark. Businesses unopened. Hospitals running on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Let’s Hear It For Up-Close-And-Personal, Hard-Copy Democracy!
    The Best Way: Missing from the on-line voting debate is any reference to the voting system that produces turn-out figures ranging from 77 to 93 percent of registered voters. The voting system used to collect and count the votes cast in our parliamentary elections. The system that involves citizens making ...
    1 week ago
  • 10/10: World Day Against the Death Penalty
    Today, October 10, is the world day against the death penalty. Out of 195 UN member states, 84 still permit capital punishment. Today is the day we work to change that. This year's theme is children. Having a parent sentenced to death or executed causes long-term trauma and stigmatization which ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Talking Freer Lives: a Marxist gender-critical perspective from Australia
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    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Government spin accepted by union leadership
    by Don Franks  The Auckland City Mission is struggling with a 40 percent increase in demand for food parcels this year. A total of 23,020 were needed by June. Last month Missioner Chris Farrelly told the Herald the “cupboards are bare” and without an emergency food drive, he can’t see ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Forbidden Thoughts
    by The Council of Disobedient Women   Massey Wellington Student Association had a sit-in today. Imagine a sit-in. On a campus. Against a women’s rights meeting. Did the ’60s really happen or did we fucking dream it? They gathered in the student square, an echo chamber. Sitting on soft pillows ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Much love to my loyal Ukrainian readership
    For some reasons, my post about the mystery message from inside the Downing Street bunker seemed to catch people's attention.  Quite a lot of hits from NZ (unsurprisingly) and the USA (a bit more puzzlingly, but hi there, USAians!!) and 76 views from the Ukraine.I've celebrated my Ukrainian readers in ...
    1 week ago
  • Another day of bonkers GNUmours (again, sorry)
    First, almost a score of Labour MPs seem to have sent a letter to the EU basically begging them to accept a deal - any deal - just so Britain can get the Heck on with Brexiting instead of being trapped in limbo:
    To avoid no deal, deliver on the ...
    1 week ago
  • Labour vs working class immigrants – again!
    by Phil Duncan In 2016 the National-led government suspended the Parent Visa Category, through which migrants were able to bring their parents into New Zealand.  Since then over 5,700 people have been in immigration limbo, stuck on the visa wait list. Labour is now bringing back the scheme.  Well, sort ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Speak Up for Women press statement: on Massey University and Feminism 2020
    The following was released yesterday (Tues, October 8) by the women’s liberation organisation Speak Up for Women. On 23 September Speak Up For Women announced that we would be holding an event at the Massey University Theaterette in Wellington. The event is called Feminism 2020. The intention of the event ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Farmers support dirty rivers
    The government is currently consulting on plans to improve freshwater quality. So naturally, farmers oppose it:South Taranaki farmers are preparing to fight proposed national freshwater changes that some fear will bankrupt them. The Government's proposed National Environment Standard on Freshwater Management, released in September, rated the Waingongoro River as one ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • No-one cares about local government
    Yesterday was the last day for (reliably) posting your vote away in local body elections. Turnouts are mostly much lower than the equivalent time last year (Palmerston North is down 2.3%), and so naturally people are pushing their online-voting snake oil again. Because the online census worked so well, lets ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The political ghosts of eugenics may matter more than the genetic
    This essay, on the political legacy of the eugenics movement, by Kenan Malik was originally published in the Observer on 6 October 2019, under the headline ‘The spirit of eugenics is still with us, as immigrants know to their cost’. Birth control. Intelligence tests. Town planning. Immigration controls. It’s striking how ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • “Surplus” again
    Another year, and the government has announced another enormous government "surplus". And just like last year, its nothing of the sort. When we have people homeless and sick and hungry, when we have schools and hospitals still falling down, when we have underpaid public servants and infrastucture unmaintained or unbuilt, ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Inside the Downing Street bunker
    James Forsyth at The Spectator (I know, I know) has tapped one of his contacts inside Number Ten for an insight into the Johnson administration's thinking and strategy.It is fascinating, unsettling and quite, quite mad.  Some key points:Negotiations have stalled and the Johnson administration are keen to blame the EU: ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Taking Control Of The Nation’s Story.
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    2 weeks ago
  • Are GNUs extinct?
    Another round of tactical talks about forming a Government of National Unity have come to nothing with the Liberal Democrats still refusing countenance putting Jeremy Corbyn into Downing Street:Opposition talks on Monday made little headway over when to try and vote down Boris Johnson's government and who might succeed him as ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Labour chickens out again
    When the government was elected, it promised to lead the way on electric vehicles, and specifically to make the government vehicle fleet emissions-free where-practicable by 2025.They lied:There are 15,473 vehicles in the government fleet and only 78 are electric. When the coalition Government came into power in late 2017, the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Transgender extremism, violence at work against feminist meeting at British Labour Party conference
    by Nick Rogers The debate around the meaning of sex and gender made an appearance at this year’s British Labour Party conference in Brighton. Women’s Place UK – an organisation that questions the demand that biological males who self-identify as woman should have access to women’s spaces, to all-women shortlists, ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Rebelling in Wellington
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • ‘The Workshop’ – Report: Talking about Poverty and Welfare Reform: A Guide to Strategies that ...
    The Workshop is a charitable trust for public good. The Workshop undertake research to find ways of communicating that will build support for the solutions that work to solve complex social and environmental problems. See their Report on Talking about Poverty and Welfare Reform below. ...
    Closing the GapBy Tracey Sharp
    2 weeks ago
  • Exclusive language
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    SciBlogsBy Michael Corballis
    2 weeks ago

  • Methane reducing cattle feed one step closer
    The Government today announced its support for a project that could substantially reduce agricultural greenhouse gas emissions from cattle. The announcement was made as part of Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern’s and Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor’s visit to Nelson’s Cawthron Aquaculture Park. The Cawthron Institute will receive $100,000 from the Government’s ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    23 hours ago
  • Bill to refresh superannuation system passes first reading
    Social Development Minister Carmel Sepuloni has welcomed the first reading of the New Zealand Superannuation and Veteran’s Pension Legislation Amendment Bill. “Every New Zealander has a stake in New Zealand Superannuation and Veteran’s Pension,” says Carmel Sepuloni. “They are our most common form of social assistance – nearly 800,000 New ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • Government announces next steps in fight against measles
    Babies in Auckland aged six months and over can receive a free vaccination and children will all have access to vaccines, Associate Minister of Health Julie Anne Genter announced today at Papatoetoe High School.   The move comes as part of Government efforts to step up the fight against measles. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • Speech to the New Zealand Institute of International Affairs, Pacific Futures: Connections, Identity...
    ***Check against delivery*** Good morning. It is a pleasure to be here, and to have the honour of opening this important conference on behalf of the New Zealand Institute of International Affairs. Let us take the opportunity to acknowledge all the people who have helped make today possible, including our special ...
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    1 day ago
  • Police trial new response to high risk events
    Police Minister Stuart Nash says the safety of frontline officers and members of the public will be the focus of a new trial of specialist Police response teams in three of our largest urban centres. Police have this morning released details of an initiative to be trialled in Counties Manukau, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • New awards celebrate fisheries sustainability
    The Minister of Fisheries is calling for entries for a new public award to celebrate innovation in our seafood sector. “I have established the Seafood Sustainability Awards to recognise and celebrate those throughout industry, tangata whenua and communities who demonstrate outstanding dedication and innovation towards the sustainability of New Zealand’s ...
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    1 day ago
  • More progress for women and we can do more
    Minister for Women Julie Anne Genter welcomes leaders in the private sector taking action on closing their gender pay gaps to ensure a fairer workplace for all New Zealanders. Ms Genter today launched a new report, Addressing the gender pay gap and driving women’s representation in senior leadership, from the Champions for ...
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    1 day ago
  • Proposals to curb environmental damage help our coasts and the oceans
    Government Ministers today welcomed the release of a marine environment report highlighting the four key issues affecting our oceans, estuaries and coastlines.  The release underlines the importance of government proposals to combat climate pollution, ensure clean freshwater, protect biodiversity, make land use more sustainable, and reduce waste and plastic.    Environment ...
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    2 days ago
  • New mental health facility for Waikato
    The Government has approved funding for a new acute mental health facility for Waikato which will provide better care and support to people with mental health and addiction issues. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and Health Minister Dr David Clark announced the $100 million project to replace the aging Henry Rongomau ...
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    2 days ago
  • 500 new te reo Māori champions in our classrooms
    The Government is making progress on its goal to integrate te reo Māori into education by 2025, with over 500 teachers and support staff already graduating from Te Ahu o te Reo Māori,  Associate Education Minister Kelvin Davis announced today. Kelvin Davis made the announcement at an awards ceremony in Waikanae today, for ...
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    2 days ago
  • Minister James Shaw welcomes 2018 Census first release
    Statistics Minister James Shaw has welcomed the first release of 2018 Census data. The first release of data today, 23 September, includes key data on population, regional growth, the number of homes and the size of different ethnic groups in New Zealand. Data from the 2018 Census will support the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Driving transparency, ethics and accountability in government use of algorithms
    Minister for Statistics James Shaw today announced a public consultation on a proposed algorithm charter for government agencies. The charter has been developed by the Government Chief Data Steward in response to growing calls for more transparency in government use of data. Computer algorithms – procedures or formulas for solving ...
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    2 days ago
  • New Zealand and the Netherlands working together on climate change
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  • Protecting fairness for workers and businesses
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  • Indigenous Freshwater Fish Bill Passes
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    3 days ago
  • Kiwis to take part in world’s biggest earthquake drill
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  • Rising wages and low inflation supporting Kiwis
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  • NZ economy strong amid global headwinds
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  • Keeping New Zealanders safer with better counter-terrorism laws
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  • Improved succession and dispute resolution core of Ture Whenua changes
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  • Speech to CTU Biennial Conference
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  • Minister ensures continued Whenuapai flight operations
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  • NZ joins Coalition of Finance Ministers for Climate Action
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  • Feedback Sought – Section 71 – Lyttelton Parking
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  • Feedback Sought – Section 71 – Hagley Oval
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  • CTU speech – DPM
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    4 days ago
  • Police Association Annual Conference
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  • New Zealand announces a further P-3 deployment in support of UN sanctions
    Minister of Foreign Affairs Winston Peters and Minister of Defence Ron Mark have announced the New Zealand Government’s decision to again deploy a Royal New Zealand Air Force P-3K2 (P-3) maritime patrol aircraft to support the implementation of United Nations Security Council (UNSC) resolutions imposing sanctions against North Korea. New ...
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    4 days ago
  • New Zealand deeply concerned at developments in north-east Syria
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters says New Zealand continues to have serious concerns for peace and stability in north-east Syria. “Recent reports that hundreds of ISIS-affiliated families have fled from a camp are deeply concerning from a humanitarian and security perspective”, Mr Peters says. “While we acknowledge Turkey’s domestic security ...
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    4 days ago
  • Government on high alert for stink bugs
    Biosecurity Minister Damien O’Connor is warning travelling Kiwis to be vigilant as the high-season for the crop-eating brown marmorated stink bug (BMSB) is under way. “We’re on high alert to stop BMSB arriving in NZ. The high season runs until April 30 and we’ve strengthened our measures to stop stink ...
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  • Better protections for students in halls of residence
    The Government is moving swiftly to change the law to improve the welfare and pastoral care of students living in university halls of residence and other tertiary hostels. Cabinet has agreed to several changes, including creating a new mandatory Code of Practice that sets out the duty of pastoral care ...
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    5 days ago
  • New trapping guide for community and expert trappers alike
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