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Change to policy – Privacy Consent

Written By: - Date published: 3:41 pm, July 29th, 2009 - 25 comments
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This has been added to the policy because as Lew points out there appear to be morons in government, blogs, and in journalism who appear to think that by speaking out on a blog about politics implies that you lose all expectation of protections on privacy. I’d suggest that all blogs insert this or something like it into their policy.

Thanks to Anita for writing it and allowing its use.

Implied or explicit consent about privacy

Reproduced from Kiwipolitico

On this blog it is likely that, from time to time, the authors and commenters will criticise government policy, speeches, and political tactics.

We would like to reassert that this is neither explicit nor implicit consent to release any private information about the authors or commenters that is held by any government agency, minister’s office, local government organisation, political party, or any other person, organisation or agency.

For the purposes of clarification this non-consent includes, but is not limited to, the following information:

  • benefit status or history;
  • family status or history;
  • ACC status or history;
  • health status or history including information held by DHBs, PHOs, central government agencies and private providers whether directly or indirectly contracted by the state;
  • interactions with justice or law enforcement including complaints, interviews, interactions, documents supplied;
  • employment status or history;
  • any grants applied for or received; and
  • tax payments, status or history.

In addition we would like to restate that posting or commenting here does not give implicit or explicit consent for any private information held about any author or commenter to be used for a purpose other than the purpose for which is was supplied. This non-consent includes, but is not limited to, the reuse of personal information for political purposes.


25 comments on “Change to policy – Privacy Consent”

  1. Maynard J 1

    Watch out, Tim is about to come along and call you hysterical.

    • lprent 1.1

      I prefer to keep everyone protected from such morons. I think Tim would applaud it.

      Paula Bennett’s attitude seems to mirror intrusive stalkers like WhaleOil differing in that he bludges off insurance (thereby raising my premiums) while she does it from my taxes (thereby raising my taxes).

      I’d prefer giving money to training people on the DPB so they have a life after raising kids. It is a more productive use of my work.

  2. r0b 2

    Good move, and what a disturbing trend that it is necessary under this government. Thanks to Anita at Kiwipolitico for drafting the statement.

    I assert that that this policy on “Implied or explicit consent about privacy” applies to the individual posting and commenting here or in any other public forum under the pseudonym “r0b”.

    — r0b

  3. BLiP 3

    Excellent. Thanks.

  4. exbrethren 4

    The only thing I give Paula Bennett consent for is to piss off back under the rock from where she crawled.

  5. bobo 5

    The scary thing is not so much what Bennett has done by releasing the details as that’s no surprise from a National Gov but the apparent support she is getting judging by the herald readers feedback, whether that’s representational or not I don’t know. Forget the dated “Tall Poppy” syndrome, that went out with Fred Dag era, NZ has a “Small Poppy” mentality to blame those on the benefit for their own failures in life , it last reared its ugly head in the 90s.

  6. Maynard J 6

    While we are here, any thoughts to adding Tracy Watkins to the Media blogroll? hidden away on Dompost.co.nz instead of Stuff it is oft overlooked, and is frequently good (I can see that biting me in the arse when there is one I disagree with).


  7. Murray 7

    One thing about The Standard, its always good for a laugh

    IrishBill: I’ve gone back through your comments. You do nothing but troll and I’m pretty certain I’ve banned you before. Take a month off.

  8. Rex Widerstrom 8

    While I completely and without equivocation support the right to privacy of those who want it, the alternative course is to be totally open about what you’ve done (and has been done to you) and what you’re doing.

    For instance there’s no shame in being in receipt of a benefit for 90+% of those who are (there are a few bludgers who ought to join Paula under her rock), yet we’re embarrassed if life throws us a curve ball and we have to line up at WINZ.

    Well I’ve received the unemployment benefit several times in my life. As someone who thinks we’re overtaxed, I took the view that I was claiming a partial refund 😀 I genuinely needed it at the time and I couldn’t care less whether people knew how much I was getting (actually my partner got most of it, given that we were honest and thus were paid at the “married” rate. I got by on about $120 a week).

    I’m arguing with the IRD over the fact that they decided to go back the full seven years and decide the tax they’d unquestioningly accepted all that time wasn’t enough (an event coinciding with, but I’m sure having nothing whatsoever to do with, my expressing my opinions on the character of the Minister of Revenue).

    And my “criminal” history is pretty well known.

    I think that’s it. If I’ve left anything out, government lickspittles, feel free to comment.

    Now then, Paula et al… bring it.

    • QoT 8.1

      Thing is, Rex, while you’re absolutely correct, there are plenty of people who do think there’s something wrong with receiving a benefit, and those people are exactly the ones Bennett was stirring up. And now the actual issue – of the TIA getting spiked – is being ignored (admittedly, also by me!).

      • IrishBill 8.1.1

        One of the things that has disturbed me about all this is the number of people who are complaining about how much beneficiaries are getting and blaming them for it. It strikes me that there are a lot of low-paid people who are focusing their anger in the completely wrong direction.

        It’s an unpleasant world when people are sticking the knife into each other over a few crumbs that have fallen from the table.

        • QoT

          I just cannot wrap my head around underprivileged people who vote Tory, IB.

          ‘Course it’s a lot easier to say “I’m struggling day-to-day because of That Bludger There” than “I’m struggling day-to-day because of systematic oppression and socio-economic mechanisms specifically designed to keep me down”.

          • gingercrush

            Why? Should all New Zealanders share the same views.Also there is huge differences between urban city people with low incomes and country/provincial people with low incomes. Perhaps those in the country and provinces don’t appreciate a political spectrum that allows dependency. A fundamental reason why outside Palmerston North and the big four cities there wasn’t huge support for Labour or the left. That is why Labour hold no electorates outside the cities.

          • felix

            Oh look QoT, you got your head around it after all.

            I knew you would.

          • Rex Widerstrom

            I think a lot of people are aware that there are faults in the system and want to see the rules tightened, and voted for that nice Mr Key thinking he’d bring a firm but fair, patriarchal approach to things. Instead he’s unleashed Paula Bennett and Simon Power.

            The partner of a family member, for instance, a healthy and fit young man, spends his days on various “courses” arranged for him by WINZ and his evenings prostrate on the couch playing with his PS3 while his partner struggles to keep house, raise two children and juggle a part time job. How the system can allow him to coast from one non-job to another I simply can’t understand.

            I’d love a crackdown which saw his ample ass tossed off the couch and into a job – yes, even one at McDonalds if necessary. And if the money that previously went to him and people like him were distributed amongst the deserving recipients, I’d be ecstatic.

            The difference between me and the people to whom you refer is that I’ve been round politics long enough to know that no one is willing to do the hard work necessary to improve things on a micro level and will just make sweeping macro changes which will redistribute inequality.

            In Paula Bennett’s case, after reading recommendations written in stick figures and speech bubbles, by all accounts.

        • Bill

          When times are economically tough the disadvantaged do tend to turn on minority groupings. Its got nothing to do with being Tory or whatever.

          Foreign workers and foreign small business owners, beneficiaries, immigrants…anyone slightly ‘other’ presents a convenient and thoughtless ‘explanation’ for the majority and becomes a target for all that is going ‘wrong’.

          And all you can expect from the media if or as it hits an ugly spiral is reporting without explanations. They are a part of the real problem as outlined by QoT

  9. illuminatedtiger 9

    Good move lprent although it is sad that this is even needed.

    All hail the John Key Dictatorship.

  10. The consent wording isn’t actually legally required, but it makes a nice point. I put , something similar on my own site, but only because it seemed cute to do so.

  11. forgetaboutthelastone 11

    Is it possible to figure out what Paula was getting on the DPB? In the interests of transparent debate and all. When was she on it? How many kids?

  12. It is not necessary to add privacy statements to a blog’s policy because privacy is an issue controlled by legislation; it applies whether people state it does or not (unless, apparently, you are a government minister).

  13. gingercrush 13

    You need a permanent tech thread. Sorry but this site isn’t loading properly. I can’t get either side of the site with recent posts or recent comments to load. I can’t even get the paypal thing to load and donate so the site runs better. Also my experience is that this site loads very slowly until late evening/early morning and its been that way for days.

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