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Choices: Tax cuts or teachers

Written By: - Date published: 7:10 am, May 2nd, 2011 - 65 comments
Categories: education, jobs, national, tax - Tags: ,

You’re the ruling government. Which do you choose, tax cuts or teachers? Perhaps that’s a bit to vague, let’s put some numbers on it. Tax cuts for 47 millionaires or salaries for 121 new teachers? It’s not a hypothetical question. Here’s some background:

Pay rises for bosses surge ahead of ordinary Kiwis

The bosses of New Zealand’s biggest listed firms and state-owned enterprises received an average pay rise of 14 per cent in the 2010 financial year, the Business Herald’s executive pay survey shows.

For all New Zealanders, the average wage increase was just 1.7 per cent in the year to the December 2010 quarter, according to Statistics New Zealand figures. The Business Herald survey shows the mean remuneration of the 47 chief executives investigated was $1.6 million in the 2010 financial year, up from $1.4 million in 2009.

We can argue about whether or not any individual is truly “worth” such a salary some other time. For now let’s consider tax. On the average salary (for these 47 chiefs) of $1.6 million, tax used to be $613,810. Following National’s tax cuts it has fallen to $518,920, a tax cut of $94,890. For 47 chiefs times $94,890 = almost $4.5 million total, a fair chunk of lost income for the government.

How many teachers could the government have had for $4.5 million? On the average new teacher’s salary of $37,000 I make it 121 teachers.

How can this possibly be good for New Zealand? I don’t know what the return on investment for tax cuts to 47 millionaires is (my guess is they book another holiday and spend it overseas). But I do know that every study shows that the return on investment in education is massive. For the taxes lost on 47 individuals alone, NZ could have had 121 new teachers. Or 82 practice nurses. Or…

National are making the wrong choices for New Zealand.

65 comments on “Choices: Tax cuts or teachers”

  1. Herodotus 1

    A wee oversight Rob re your numbers- with the tax rebalancing some of this extra money will be repaid to the govt in the form of increased GST. Not sure how much but there will be “some” !!
    So the picture is not quite as bad as your portray it to be !! ;-).
    It may reduce the no of additional teachers to less than current sitting MP’s !!

    • Eddie 1.1

      Nah.

      You’re assuming the millionaires spend the money in NZ. No GST if they don’t.

      And the teacher would pay GST on their salaries too. So the two situations are neutral as far as I can see.

    • Colonial Viper 1.2

      Herod. poor people have to spend most of their incomes on GST affected goods and services.

      Rich people do not. Their multi million dollar mansion in Devonport they just bought didn’t give the Government a cent of GST.

  2. Craig Glen Eden 2

    Only if the money is spent on goods and services apparently according to Key and English Kiwis are re paying debt so if they are right not much if any GST.

  3. lprent 3

    A wee oversight Rob re your numbers- with the tax rebalancing some of this extra money will be repaid to the govt in the form of increased GST.

    That depends on where they spend it. R0b suggested holidays. If like Key they holiday in the US, then the GST is only on the airfares.

    Of course they could do the unthinkable and invest their money in NZ. No GST on investments. And if they invest in rental property there is effectively no tax because it will be leveraged to ensure that there isn’t and separate into trusts.

    Of course they could be spending their tax gains. Pity that doesn’t show in the economic stats anywhere.

    The point that r0b didn’t make is that there is only one case where the tax cuts showered on the wealthy help NZ. That is where they invest it in productive enterprises in NZ. Strangely, I cannot see any evidence of that happening either anedoctably or in the stats.

    Basically I think that putting it into teachers would have been a better investment. The only one that I think could have been better would have been getting our transport infrastructure prepped for higher fuel costs.

    • Lanthanide 3.1

      “If like Key they holiday in the US”

      One little comment by Key I found illuminating. Over the whole Act party shenanigans, he said of course National could work with Act, and the chances of Act working with Labour were about the same as him “spending his next summer holiday on Mars instead of Hawaii”.

    • Draco T Bastard 3.2

      Strangely, I cannot see any evidence of that happening either anedoctably or in the stats.

      Apparently there aren’t enough state assets on the chopping block NSX to encourage them to “invest”.

  4. Bingo 4

    It’s worse than that.

    Assuming those 121 teachers don’t leave the country, they will most likely take jobs that could otherwise have gone to less qualified people. Net result will be about 121 more people on the dole, which the government also has to pay for. Savings to the government on not hiring those 121 teachers is therefore quite a bit less than the amount given in tax cuts to 47 millionaires.

    • Craig Glen Eden 4.1

      “Assuming those 121 teachers don’t leave the country, they will most likely take jobs that could otherwise have gone to less qualified people.”

      If they are less qualified they arn’t teachers!So one is not taking the others jobs.

      You assume wrongly and obviously have no idea of how a school is run.

      • fermionic_interference 4.1.1

        I believe the inference by Bingo was that the 121 possible teachers would then take other jobs within NZ, Thus disadvantaging 121 others probably leaving them on the dole.

        note also the income tax and GST that would be paid by these teachers and 121 or more other employed people would add to Govt revenues.

  5. Herodotus 5

    I comented yesterday re the GST removal re Mana, how this would place many people in a worse state of affairs as it would reduce the price of housing, directly new housing and then as it works its way thru the system existing housing would go down in value.
    The real rich are becomming more and more untouchable. If we legislate there are many wizards out there who will be paid to protect the money of the rich.
    And Eddie yes there is a churn with these teachers also contribing to govt tax take I agree. Just mentioning that the new Ferarri, 1st growth wine from France, resturants and whatever else rich people spend their mony on a wee portion does come back. But these consumer goods have also increased from GST – the rich have sufferred !!!

    • Draco T Bastard 5.1

      and then as it works its way thru the system existing housing would go down in value.

      And that would be the market at work (not that it’s likely to happen – house prices are presumably set by demand and not the cost to build them).

      The real rich are becomming more and more untouchable. If we legislate there are many wizards out there who will be paid to protect the money of the rich.

      Which just means that the legislation needs to be watertight.

      But these consumer goods have also increased from GST – the rich have sufferred !!!

      Depends on where and how they buy. It is possible, after all, to buy stuff overseas and have it delivered without any GST on it (which really just goes to show how stupid GST is).

      • Pete 5.1.1

        Which just means that the legislation needs to be watertight.

        Best of luck with that…..it’s like playing whack-a-mole. The bigger the incentive, the more moles you’ll have, and the faster they’ll move.

        house prices are presumably set by demand

        And supply. We existing landlords thank you for your RMA, excessive building regulations, and smart growth planning.

        It’s hard not to vote Labour if you’re a property owner in Wellington. Really, really hard. They have given us so much. Just ask Bob Jones….

      • Herodotus 5.1.2

        “..house prices are presumably set by demand and not the cost to build them..”
        Currently is costs more to build than what people are willing to pay = result a shortage of housing stock. Yet if builders were able to sell there properties at a price greater than cost we cannot afford to buy.
        So by your basis if we terminate GST, the entire 13% savings will go to the profit of Fletchers, Universial Homes(Foregin owned) and the Todd family (Who own the largest residential land development in Ak). So thanks to Mana instead of the 15% GST going to the govt it will go to these shareholders !! Magic I just love the logic, A party for those dispossesed, results in the rich getting richer !!! Why dont we all face up to it: the real rich are untouchable, and all the fiddling achieves is over-taxing those above mentioned teachers and the like
        When you do your supply/demand stuff what is your basis for the starting price point on the graph? Is it (as should be for farms) based on an economic/rental return? This is where almost everyone gets the price of housing wrong. They have no concept of what a section and standard house is worth,and why. Everyone basis it on what “next door sold for” without understanding WHY next door achieved the price.
        A basic concept within the development industry ios that you can control demand or price but not both.

  6. Hilary 6

    Don’t forget teachers’ aides. Rodney Hide’s brief stint as a special ed teacher aide on TV last night showed just how important but difficult that job is, and they only get about $14 an hour, and most are casual employees with no job security. Our priorities in NZ are just so skewed. Nothing about children is valued.

    • joe90 6.1

      Nothing about children is valued

      Hilary, I was sitting in the doctors waiting room a few weeks ago watching the procession of oldies, all with their own helpers and minders, and there were just as many young women coming through the door wrangling one, two and sometimes three little ones and not one had anybody with them to help them and their kids.

      Sure, some looked to be the capable, assured and well off balls of supermum energy that the glossies portray and they looked to be doing it on their ear but I was struck by how tired and harassed some of the other young women looked.

      They were carting obviously unwell youngsters around and herding one or two toddlers and although the staff were marvellous it made me bloody angry that there wasn’t a helper in sight and that life appeared to be so very tough for some of those young women.

      So I’d go further than saying nothing about children is valued and say that it seems there’s nothing about young mothers that’s valued either.

  7. spam 7

    How can you compare the tax at the new rate on the new salary, with the tax on the new rate on the old salary? Surely a fairer comparison would be tax on new salary and new rate, and tax on old salary at old rate?

    Secondly, the salary costs for new teachers are not the only cost, so that’s not a fair comparison either. You have overhead costs as well (training, kiwisaver, insurance, resources etc etc).

    • So there may only be money for 60 new teachers? Does that change your opinion on the issue? It certainly does not change mine. Hell if there were only 5 new teachers for the money I would still support the change.

      • spam 7.1.1

        So what is your motivation? More teachers as an absolute?

        I mean, with around 45,000 teachers in New Zealand (excluding early childhood education), if you “only” want 6 extra teachers, and they “only” cost $37,000 / annum, then you could simply pay teachers 0.25 of a cent an hour less, and there’s your money.

        • Draco T Bastard 7.1.1.1

          So, putting critical people even further into poverty is your solution to improving our society and it’s culture.

          • spam 7.1.1.1.1

            And you think that 0.25 cents / hour ($5.20 / annum) puts people into poverty?

            • terryg 7.1.1.1.1.1

              interesting idea spam. Lets assume for a moment you work for a large company, and management decide they need another 6 workers. By your argument, it is OK for management to force YOU and your workmates to pay their salary.

              I suspect you would not like that approach, and nor would your co-workers. And rightly so.

              Yet that is what you JUST SAID teachers should do.

              And lets not forget little things like employment contracts…..

            • Colonial Viper 7.1.1.1.1.2

              Hey spam, taxing those earning over $90,000 p.a. an extra 0.5 cents on the dollar also gets the money (and probably more). Good deal huh.

  8. PeteG 8

    Why just that comparison? Why not compare the cost of Americs Cup or RWC to teachers? Or funding by-elections, or funding party’s ineffectice “communications” staff – our own money is taken off us to pay for being bullshitted to, FFS.

    And why teachers? What about pensioners hip operations, paying more social workers more to try and address the child abuse and dysfunctional familes problems, or saving cute wee puppies at SPCA?

    • PeteG seems to be saying that we should be comparing everything with everything. We could do that but it would be rather confusing.

      Crown expenditure is an easily measured thing and shows what the Government’s priorities are.

      One of my favourite was the cutting of teacher professional training in literacy and numeracy which was showing outstanding results at the same time that $35m extra was awarded to private schools. A very clear decision and it showed exactly what the motivation was, help for kids who are struggling is bad, extra money for rich families was good.

    • Blighty 8.2

      considering you write about 30 comments a day here, you should realise that there have been a series of these ‘choices, choices’ posts making such comparisons.

      • r0b 8.2.1

        PeteG does write a lot here it’s true, but I’m not at all sure that he reads anything.

        • PeteG 8.2.1.1

          Selective comparisons of unrelated expenses mean little, it is just dog whistling. You could compare the value of heart operations for babies versus the cost of the Leader of the Opposition’s office, but that doesn’t mean the Leader of the Opposition shouldn’t be funded. What about spending $16m annually on Creative New Zealand versus more cancer drugs?

          Budget decisions involve many choices, and every budget by every government could be nit picked to kingdom come.

          • r0b 8.2.1.1.1

            Indeed, and the choice highlighted in this post is the choice to give tax cuts to millionaires. Care to defend it?

            • PeteG 8.2.1.1.1.1

              No, I won’t defend it, I think too many people get pay a disproportionate amount, private company executives get away with greater self rewards than politicians.

              But regarding return on investment you are arguing facts and figures against a wild assumption:

              “I don’t know what the return on investment for tax cuts to 47 millionaires is (my guess is they book another holiday and spend it overseas). “

              I bet most of the increased income in the hand is not spent on overseas holidays.

              Some will be paid on increased taxes, some on local consumption, some may be given as donations to organisations that will be very grateful for anothing they can get, some may be spent on local investment that creates new jobs, some might even be spent on private education that reduces the pressure on state teacher numbers.

              If you want to make return on investment comparisons you should have all the facts.

              • r0b

                I get to make the odd wild assumption on my own blog thanks PeteG. Doesn’t affect the underlying argument either way. Tax cuts for millionaires are not value for money.

  9. ianmac 9

    A few weeks ago Tony Ryall was claiming that they had increased teacher numbers by 1500. (Not 1489 or 15013?) Nowhere was he challenged and nowhere were there details published, and it takes 2 years+ to train a teacher. Water into wine?
    121 teachers would not have been trained/employed under Tax for the Rich.

  10. Jared 10

    Where on earth did my comments go????

    [lprent: The thread got booted to OpenMike (which is where this comment will also go shortly). Your ‘topic’ looked like diversion trolling to me because it was a level one comment that was only marginally related to the topic of the post. You picked up a ban. ]

  11. randal 11

    the thing is he is still going to sell off state assets to payoff his mates who want those steady income streams for their PORTFOLIOS.

  12. Pete 12

    We could pay teachers more if we targeted WFF at those who really need it, as opposed to those who want a new television.

    • Draco T Bastard 12.1

      And we could get rid of WfF if employers paid enough in the first place.

      • Pete 12.1.1

        How can an employer pay more than a job is worth?

        If a job produces say $14 p/h worth of value, and the employer is forced to pay $15 p/h, then the job disappears.

        • Lanthanide 12.1.1.1

          Funnily enough, productivity has increased massively since the 80’s. The the minimum wage has not.
           
          Because all the profits from that productivity increase was funnelled towards the top of the pyramid.

        • Draco T Bastard 12.1.1.2

          Well, I reckon that if a job produces $14/hour then the person doing it should be paid $14/hour rather than the $6/hour that they’re likely to get ATM.

          Capitalism: Legalised theft

          • Vicky32 12.1.1.2.1

            Well, I reckon that if a job produces $14/hour then the person doing it should be paid $14/hour rather than the $6/hour that they’re likely to get ATM.

            Seconded, DtB! 🙂

          • Pete 12.1.1.2.2

            But if it costs more to provide the job than the job returns, then the job disappears.

            You should start a business for the benefit of the workers. If they cost more than they return, you’ll need to cut your own salary to balance the books. If it keeps up for any length of time, you lose your business. That doesn’t do the workers much good either.

            • Colonial Viper 12.1.1.2.2.1

              Ridiculous

              This is capitalism, where the only worthwhile job is one which generates a ROI on capital for the wealth holders.

              Forget about caring for others, emotional labour, looking after the environment. No return on financial capital so those jobs should not exist, and if they do they should be paid at shit pay rates – according to the economic system which is capitalism.

              But yeah, worker owned enterprises are the way to go, then they can cut out the leaching major shareholders and directors who know shit about the business but who usually end up taking the most benefit from it.

              • Pete

                But the capital is at risk. That is a cost.

                Do you own a home? Banks typically secure against this asset for business loans. If you put this at risk, you’re saying you deserve nothing for doing so? In which case, why would you do it?

                Secondly, there is no guarantee of return. A worker will get paid, week on week, whether the company has been able to collect that week, or not. Many workers like that security and regularity, but an owner does not enjoy same. There may be down years when the company is losing money yet still paying the workforce. The capital gets eroded. That is a cost.

                If there is no compensation for this turbulence, why would anyone do it?

                As I’ve said, I think shared ownership in the form of worker shareholding is a good idea, however many workers don’t like it. They want the cash in hand, rather than the up-n-down nature of ownership, and the lack of capital guarantee.

                There is absolutely nothing to stop worker collectives pooling their capital and starting businesses, and competing with other forms of business. But they seldom do.

                Why is that?

                Why don’t you?

                What stops you?

                • Colonial Viper

                  Working on it mate, thanks for your concern 🙂

                  A worker will get paid, week on week, whether the company has been able to collect that week, or not.

                  Hey NZ is littered with organisations trashed by incompetent managers and owners, its time to let workers own more of the system.

    • Zaphod Beeblebrox 12.2

      Correct, the reason why we got WfF in the first place was that wages in NZ for the middle classes have stagnated over the last 20 years.

      Now if we could get employers to pay proper wages or get Bill to redistribute his tax cuts downwards you could have your wish!

      • Pete 12.2.1

        The implication is that employers sit on massive profits and they just decide to pay workers little.

        Most employers in New Zealand are small/medium business. They do not sit on massive profits, as is demonstrated by the tax take. In order to pay a worker more, the worker needs to be doing a job that results in productivity gains.

        If you could just raise workers wages by decree, why not make the minimum wage $100 p/h? What happens next?

        • KJT 12.2.1.1

          Pretty hard for small business to do well when your customers are not paid enough to buy your products.
          Big business, banking and other white collar crime is doing well though.

          Not only that, but most small businesses are competing with big businesses for the same customers.

          • Pete 12.2.1.1.1

            But where does this money come from? Should we just pay everyone $100 p/h? What will this do to prices?

            How do we really increase purchasing power?

        • joe90 12.2.1.2

          What happens next?

          The owner of the Cherry Cleaning Company admits that his staff are worse off than they’ve ever been and laments that if he were to raise his workers minimum wage larger companies would force him out of business.

          What happens next is the work has to be done so it’s likely that his ex-employees would move to the larger company earning the higher minimum wage and the only loss would be his and his profit margin..

          • Pete 12.2.1.2.1

            Economies of scale, then.

            I am surprised to see The Standard advocating for big business.

            [lprent: Read the policy. I suggest you read it now. Because next time I see you suggesting in any way that the site can think or hold an opinion, you’ll be deprived of the opportunity to leave comments. It is just symptom of a lazy mind. ]

            • joe90 12.2.1.2.1.1

              Congratulations, you’re an idiot who thinks blogs think. But I suppose you think that the shrinking of peoples real wages to prop up someone’s business is okay too.
              And why do you think competition is a bad thing?.

              • Pete

                It really is like a school yard in here. “You’re an idiot. No, you’re an idiot”.

                Do you really think I meant that a website could think? Really? Or was that just an excuse?

                The worker can go elsewhere, in which case the business fails. As it should. However, I’ve yet to hear anyone in the minimum wage “movement” articulate how a business can pay a worker at a higher rate than is possible given the economics of that business?

                An employer forced to pay $20 p/h when she can only charge $15 for the work has no option but to eliminate that job.

                I realise that people need a certain amount on which to live. I’m not advocating people live in working poverty. But surely the answer lies in looking at how businesses can be made more profitable, and how this profit can be shared with the workers? How can we grow businesses, so that they can employ more workers?

                [lprent: I suspect that Joe was being generous and was warning you. One of the main troll symptoms I look for is the stupidity of ascribing a opinion to an abstraction rather than the individuals who hold them.

                I don’t tolerate that style of argument style as it is just avoidance and typically is just done to avoid consequences. I will usually give a warning to read the policy that we follow. After that I demonstrate exactly how a humiliating personal attack should be performed. ]

                • joe90

                  Well if you didn’t think that the standard could think you would’ve said I am surprised to see The Standard joe90 advocating for big business.

                  And why should I care about a small business owner who maintains his margins by paying a wage that year by year gets eaten up by inflation when a bigger business could pay more by shrinking it’s margins. .

                  • Pete

                    One cannot survive and prosper on low wages, however one can *start* there. I did. Many of us did.

                    There’s a cost to gaining experience, and that is met by the employer. Once an employee demonstrates value, then they should be paid more, *in line with the value created*.

                    What happens when not much value is created? Is this just up to the employer to increase, or can the employee play a role here, too? Should an employee also ask “how can I create more value”?

                    PS: I quite like profit sharing schemes, although often surprised at how few employees wish to entertain the idea.

                • Draco T Bastard

                  One of the ways that businesses can be made more profitable is by getting them to invest in more and better capital. This can be done by forcing wages up.

                • fermionic_interference

                  Pete:
                  “I realise that people need a certain amount on which to live. I’m not advocating people live in working poverty. But surely the answer lies in looking at how businesses can be made more profitable, and how this profit can be shared with the workers? How can we grow businesses, so that they can employ more workers?

                  Well said Pete, especially the part I’ve chucked in bold.

                  I don’t have the answers but I do have some more questions.

                  You have asked how do we get the profits shared among the workers at a better rate?

                  With regard to the anecdote below:
                  There was a story in the Nelson evening mail?? (print edition) last year about a man who repairs phone cable, many moons ago he was employed by Telecom and paid a decent wage somewhere in the 40K range if my memory serves, now he is contracted to a company, that is contracted to a company, that is contracted to a company**, that is contracted to Telecom and now he is paid somewhere in the low 30K range.
                  **hope I got the right number of contracted to’s in there might have been one more or one less though at least one of those companies is based overseas.

                  How is this situation good for NZ wages?
                  How do we protect NZ incomes if such occurrences are accepted?
                  Do such actions not perform the task of bringing down all NZ wages?

                  When I was younger, back in 2003, I was offered (through my parents as proxy) a role on a dairy farm contract and all.The contact offered 19K /annum. The contract stated that I had 52 days off plus 3 weeks leave every year and expected work hours would not exceed 98 hours of work outside expected everyday duties, which entailed 2 milkings + “bringing the cows in” + feeding out + break fencing (maybe) + taking care of young stock, count the hours here: milkings + bring the cows in say 5-8hrs daily depending on distances time of year etc, each time you feed out would take at least half an hour with at least two multiples of this with two herds.
                  Under this stock standard contract off the Fed Farmers website I could have been required to work 98hrs + 6-9+ hrs per day after the 98hrs had been hit
                  so for the hourly wage

                  19K / 4802hrs per annum
                  =$ 3.96/hr
                  hang on a minute mate less than $4 per hour you have to be joking minimum wages then were around $9 per hr
                  Now they’re $12.75 ? $13?
                  I have a friend who is currently in the dairy game she is paid at just short of $7 for a 72 hour week with salary of $500/wk

                  So how in this situation with high milk prices do we reconcile these two facts and should it be legal to under cut the minimum wage by having high possible hours of work then always having employees work them rather than only occasionally work that long?

                  Thoughts please?

                  • Pete

                    There’s a good book called “Maverick : The Success Story Behind the World’s Most Unusual Workplace”

                    I think you might like it. I did.

                    It’s about how you can generate more value if you give the workers more say, and a stake, in the business. They also share in the downside and risk. They are given decision making power and responsibility.

                    To me, it was an example of how left and right ideas can mix well. I do think the answer lies in there somewhere.

                    In your dairy example, I think if the dairy farm is making significant upside, they should be paying more. I’m not sure how the package is structured (i.e accommodation and other provision)

                    The Telecom example doesn’t sound good, but then Telecom have been under-performing. They do appear, to me, to have management issues.

                    [lprent: see my note above, before you collect a ban for stupidity. ]

                    • fermionic_interference

                      Accommodation if it is supplied by the farmer will be done at market rates for the area normally sometimes nominally discounted or for the one in a hundred or so they provide your accommodation free but that’s very uncommon.
                      and there wouldn’t be any provisions that can make up for a hourly rate of a max of $3.96 per hour or roughly $7/hr now, how can this be excused it’s not slave labour but it’s certainly not enough for the responsibility of not “tainting the product” with milk that has antibiotics etc in it (costs 10-20K if you supply milk with antibios in it).

                      Telecom is a mess and (on a separate note) if Joyce gives them the FttD contract NZ’s heading in a bad way infrastructure wise.

                      You said you run a software company, so how do you do it then?
                      how do you pay employees a good living wage and make a profit or do you cut ’em down as hard as you can at the bargaining table? (no offense meant)

                      Look at it this way you and your employees produce something of value and then, the value you and they contribute to the product comes back to you and your company.Now (hopefully) the value provided by the employees is valued by you so in turn they see a reward of some sort.

                      look at NZ currently the value all seems to follow the directors ? CEOs who may or may not be doing a god job of managing but the employee is not rewarded for value added ie wage increases at less than inflation (1.7%) for employees whilst managers (CEOs etc) see on average 14% pay rises.
                      How is this remotely equitable or reflective of the situation?
                      All members of a companies work force are involved it it’s productivity yet one person is singled out for their contribution to the profit being worth a 14%(avg) increase in pay when they don’t offer any production themselves.
                      Whilst I am not undermining the responsibility of the CEO their actual addition to production and profit currently seems hugely inflated. Not just here but Western world wide at the very least.

                    • Pete

                      What on earth was wrong with that?

                      Genuinely perplexed.

                • Vicky32

                  The worker can go elsewhere

                  The only answer to that Pete, is, as I am sure you know, “yeah right”

                  • Pete

                    There is *nothing* to stop workers collectives owning businesses.

                    Why don’t you do it? Do it tomorrow.

                    If there is no value being added by the capitalist overlords, then the workers collective will prosper, as they will have a lower cost structure.

  13. Pete 13

    You said you run a software company, so how do you do it then?
    how do you pay employees a good living wage and make a profit or do you cut ‘em down as hard as you can at the bargaining table? (no offense meant)

    I tell you about the software company *we* sold.

    I offered equity share. Workers are paid a base salary, and the rest in equity. This worked for me, in that it took pressure off cashflow, a significant problem for start-ups. This worked for staff, as they didn’t just want salary, they wanted a stake. They took a risk, of course, which is the opportunity cost of getting higher wages elsewhere. Other staff just wanted to be paid month by month, and didn’t want the risk of an equity stake. Everyone is happy.

    When we sold, some staff became wealthy, because of their equity stake. They took a risk. It paid off. As did I – I had my house up against it, and had we failed, I would have lost it. It took me ten years to get in a position to have saved that much, which I then risked.

    Should those who do not hold equity stakes be rewarded exactly the same as staff who do?

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    by The Council of Disobedient Women   John Fenaughty is a senior lecturer in the Faculty of Education and Social Work at the University of Auckland. In a recent column Fenaughty suggested that school teachers should use students’ “correct names and pronouns (e.g., he, him, they, them, she, her, etc.)” ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 day ago
  • “People’s Faces” by Kate Tempest
    Heard this on Radio NZ this afternoon. Perfectly captures how I'm feeling just now.It's always good to find new music, though it would be nice to be hearing something celebratory. Even "Things Can Only Get Better" would be welcome, if it was accompanied by a thumping Labour victory. ...
    1 day ago
  • A reflection on the British general election
    by Don Franks Like New Zealand, Britain is officially a country of equal opportunity under the rule of law, with increasing hardship for those at the bottom. When there’s an election, and the party most obviously callous towards poor people wins, decent folks are dismayed and bewildered. “What the hell ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 days ago
  • Well, crap
    UKanians went to the polls yesterday in early elections aimed at resolving the Brexit impasse. And they certainly have, delivering a huge majority to the Tories, and (barring internal rebellions of the sort which delayed Brexit) giving them the power to do whatever they want. And thanks to the UK's ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Austerity meets fresh resistance in Iran
      by Karim Pourhamzavi Mass protests are occurring across Iran, taking place in over 100 cities.  The protests have been sparked by the government’s cutting of fuel subsidies, a measure which caused fuel prices to double overnight. Mass protests are hardly new in Iran, but there is an important difference ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 days ago
  • Oh No! It’s a …..
    What other song could we play as the UK's political rule book gets torn up and thrown away?Video courtesy of YouTubeThis post is exclusive to Bowalley Road. ...
    3 days ago
  • Election 2019 – The Legendary Liveblog
    Legendary in my own mind, I mean.  All times are NZ, which is an hour10.00am (NZ) There's about an hour to go until the exit poll is released.  At that point, half of the British voting public will devastated, and the other half celebrating wildly.  Unless everyone is simply confused.Turnout seems ...
    3 days ago
  • Some Thoughts On Socialism As Jeremy Corbyn Loses The UK General Election.
    Forlorn Hope: When the call came down to make Corbyn unelectable, the Establishment's journalists and columnists rose to the challenge. Antisemitism was only the most imaginative of the charges levelled against the old democratic-socialist. There were many more and, sadly, they appear to have worked. Boris Johnson may not be much ...
    3 days ago
  • Cartoonist David Low’s Radical Sympathy.
    "Rendezvous" by David Low, September 1939.DUNEDIN IS THE BIRTHPLACE of, for my money, the world’s greatest cartoonist, David Low. At the height of his powers, in 1930s London, Low’s cartoons represented the visual conscience of the civilised world. His most famous cartoon, “Rendezvous”, penned a few weeks into the Second ...
    3 days ago
  • The UK has a choice as to whether it chooses to be manipulated… or not.
    If you want to study propagandist techniques, you are typically told to study Dictatorships. Not unfair, but what’s always been more interesting to me is so-called “democratic” countries and their broader information systems. Why? Because people opt for it, even as they decry “totalitarian regimes!”.. It’s quite an eye ...
    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    3 days ago
  • Today’s secrecy legislation
    Introducing legislation which shits on the public's right to know seems to have become a daily occurrence for this government. Today's example is the Infrastructure Funding and Financing Bill. The bill establishes a framework for the establishment of "special purpose vehicles" (SPVs) to hide debt from local government balance sheets ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Hard News: Public Address Word of the Year 2019: Time to vote!
    Below is the longlist of words and phrases generated in the korero phase of Public Address Word of the Year 2019, with some editorial moderation. Now it's time to vote. As you'll doubtless be able to see, you get three ranked choices. Use your power wisely. Or frivolously, whatever.As usual, ...
    4 days ago
  • Encryption, passwords, and self-incrimination
    The University of Waikato and New Zealand Law Foundation have released a report today on the law around encryption in New Zealand. There's stuff in there about principles and values, and how proposed government policies to provide for "lawful access" by creating backdoors would destroy the trust which makes encryption ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Drawn
    A ballot for two Member's Bills was held today, and the following bills were drawn: Insurance (Prompt Settlement of Claims for Uninhabitable Residential Property) Bill (Stuart Smith) Social Security (Exemption for Ex Gratia and Compensation Payments) Amendment Bill (Willow-Jean Prime) Neither bill seems likely to be particularly controversial. This is ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Bougainville votes for independence
    Earlier in the month, Bougainvilleans went to the polls in a landmark referendum to decide on whether they would remain part of Papua New Guinea or become independent. Yesterday, the results came in, with over 97% support for independence. The referendum wasn't binding - instead it means negotiations with the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Bus strikes, suspensions and solidarity
    by Daphna Whitmore This week 800 unionised bus drivers in Auckland were suspended from work after they refused to collect fares as part of a campaign of industrial action. Drivers working for Auckland’s largest bus company NZ Bus are asking for more pay and better working conditions after being offered ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    4 days ago
  • How to support after the Whakaari/White Island volcanic eruption
    As details emerge about what unfolded on Whakaari / White Island two days ago, my thoughts go out to all the families affected by this terrible event. My thoughts are also with the first responders who worked in perilous circumstances to assist and protect those affected. Both local and ...
    SciBlogsBy Sarb Johal
    4 days ago
  • Final BMG poll – nothing to see here
    BMG research have unleashed their final poll of the 2019 campaign:Westminster voting intention: CON: 41% (-)LAB: 32% (-)LDEM: 14% (-)GRN: 4% (-)BREX: 3% (-1)via @BMGResearch , 06 - 11 Dec Chgs. w/ 06 Dec That's a bit of a "Dunno why we bothered" sort of poll. "Phillip, I'm afraid I've been a ...
    4 days ago
  • Grant Robertson Spends Up Large – On The Establishment!
    Grant Keeps On Trucking: Out of the $12 billion Robertson has announced for infrastructure investment, $8 billion will be allocated to specific projects, with the balance of $4 billion held in reserve. What does it say about this Government's "transformational" ambitions that 85 percent of that $8 billion is to ...
    4 days ago
  • Boris Johnson … Hides … In a Fridge
    I am not making this up.First few lines of the Dail Mail write up:Boris Johnson's exasperated media minder swore on live TV today as the PM refused to speak to Good Morning Britain before trotting into a fridge as he started an early milkround in Yorkshire. Piers Morgan was visibly ...
    4 days ago
  • Shy Labour Voters?
    In previous elections pollsters have bemoaned the 'shy Tory' - the respondent who is so fearful of being judged as a cruel and heartless bastard by an anonymous pollster, or their spouses, workmates and friends, that they lie about their intention of voting Conservative, skewing the poll figures in Labour's ...
    4 days ago
  • Seven reasons to be wary of waste-to-energy proposals
    Climate Explained is a collaboration between The Conversation, Stuff and the New Zealand Science Media Centre to answer your questions about climate change. If you have a question you’d like an expert to answer, please send it to climate.change@stuff.co.nz I was in Switzerland recently and discovered that they haven’t ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    5 days ago
  • Reviewing the whitewash
    Back in 2015, then Ombudsman Beverley Wakem conducted a review of the OIA, Not a game of hide and seek. The "review" was a whitewash, which found no need for legislative change, and instead criticised the media and requesters - which destroyed Wakem's reputation, and undermined that of the Office ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • You Gov MRP Poll Out
    So, You Gov's MRP poll - the weird one that tries to reflect what will happen at a constituency level and which pretty much nailed the hung parliament in 2017 - is not looking too good for Labour:
    UK #GE2019 MRP seat projection:CON: 339 (-20)LAB: 231 (+20)SNP: 41 (-2)LDEM: 15 ...
    5 days ago
  • Climate Change: Accountability?
    We've known about climate change for over forty years now,and it has been a major political issue for twenty. And yet fossil fuel companies have kept polluting with impunity, while government have looked the other way and twiddled their thumbs and refused to do anything because "the economy", or just ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Delusional And Irrational: The Rise Of Paranoid Politics In New Zealand.
    Sheer Loopiness: Many of those expressing bemusement at the antics of these #turnardern effacers, were convinced that they were yet another expression of the National Party’s increasingly spiteful anti-government propaganda campaign. They marvelled at the oddness of the perpetrators’ mindset and questioned the common-sense of allowing the rest of New Zealand ...
    5 days ago
  • Things to know about Whakaari/White Island
    Brad Scott, GNS Science VolcanologistThis post was originally published by GeoNet. Following the 9 December devastating eruption at Whakaari/White Island we have put together some information about the island. New Zealand’s most active volcano Whakaari/White Island is currently New Zealand’s most active volcano, it has been since an eruptive episode ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    5 days ago
  • Status quo supports status quo
    The Justice Committee has reported back on its Inquiry into the 2017 General Election and 2016 Local Elections, with a host of recommendations about how to improve our electoral systems. Some of their recommendations are already incorporate din the Electoral Amendment Bill currently before Parliament, but there's also a recommendation ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • The Greens abandon NeoLiberalism
    Back in 2017, in order to make themselves "electable" in the eyes of rich people who oppose everything they stand for, the Greens signed up for NeoLiberalism, adopting a restrictive set of "Budget Responsibility Rules" which basicly prevented them from using government to make things better. Now, they're finally abandoning ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Lying about a failed war
    Since invading in 2001, the US has consistently claimed that their war in Afghanistan has been going well, even when it continued year after year after year. Of course, they were lying, and thanks to the Washington Post and the US Freedom of Information Act, we get to see just ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Artificial Intelligence and You
    How should we think about artificial intelligence and the implications that it has for our work and leisure? There are many articles on artificial intelligence and its potential impacts on jobs, and the ethics of applications. These are important topics, but I want to focus on some less discussed aspects, ...
    SciBlogsBy Robert Hickson
    6 days ago
  • Statistical manipulation to get publishable results
    I love data. It’s amazing the sort of “discoveries” I can make given a data set and computer statistical package. It’s just so easy to search for relationships and test their statistical significance. Maybe relationships which ...
    6 days ago
  • More lies on the Twitter (Dan Hodges edition)
    The other big story concerning Leeds Hospital is Boris Johnson's bizzare behaviour at Leeds Hospital, where he was confronted by a journalist and challenged about a four year old boy with suspected pneumonia who was left sleeping on the floor, rather than getting  abed like a sick kid would in ...
    6 days ago
  • LabourActivistPunchedMattHancock’sSPADGate
    So, for a brief period of history, it was alleged that a protester had punched Matt Hancock's SPAD (not a euphemism; special adviser) when Hancock visited Leeds Hospital.This was reported by the likes of Robert Peston and Laura Keunssberg, as well as the less credible Guido Fawkes.  It also quickly ...
    6 days ago
  • France’s anti-Zionism is anti-liberté
    by Daphna Whitmore Last week France passed a law that equates anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism. It is based on a definition of anti-Semitism that includes criticism of Israel such as: “Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    7 days ago
  • Another bus lockout
    Over the past year we've seen major bus problems in Hamilton and Wellington, as drivers have sought better wages and an end to the bullshit of split shifts, which basicly see them "married to the job". And now its Auckland's turn. When NZBus's drivers planned low-level strike action of not ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Climate Change: Showing us how its done
    The government has been congratulating itself over the passage of the Zero Carbon Act, which sets out long-term emissions targets. But those targets are insufficient. Meanwhile, Denmark is showing us how its done:Denmark’s parliament adopted a new climate law on Friday, committing to reach 70% below its 1990 emissions in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • New Fisk
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Public sector dysfunction should not be allowed to undermine freedom of information
    Another day, another piece of legislation with a secrecy clause. This time its the innocuous-seeming Mental Health and Wellbeing Commission Bill, which (after establishing a new body and making it subject to the OIA in three different ways) includes the rapidly-becoming-standard clauses enabling it to request information from other public ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • “This is England, this knife of Sheffield steel…”
    The state of the United Kingdom is fractured, torn up, shredded. The Empire is gone, it died a long time ago. And yet, the country is still tracking with a lead in favour of the ones who play to the ingrained, class-bound division for political gain. It is a disgrace ...
    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    1 week ago
  • CORSIA, coming soon to an airport near you
    On 27 September, Greta Thunberg addressed a crowd of 500,000 at the School Strike for Climate in Montreal, saying: “You are a nation that is allegedly a climate leader. And Sweden is also a nation that is allegedly a climate leader. And in both cases, it means absolutely nothing. Because ...
    SciBlogsBy Robert McLachlan
    1 week ago
  • Cloaking hate speech and fake news in the right to free expression.
    It should be obvious by now but let’s be clear: The same folk who regularly traffic in disinformation, misinformation and “fake news” are also those who most strongly claim that their freedom of expression rights are being violated when moves are made to curb hate speech (as opposed to protected ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    1 week ago
  • The Physics (and Economics, and Politics) of Wheelchairs on Planes
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    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • To Advance Civil Rights, Oppose Transgender Extremism
    We are very pleased to publish this submission is from Lucinda Stoan. She is a social justice activist, mother, and educator, based in Washington State in the  US.   This detailed and comprehensive source-linked overview of trans issues and what is at stake will be useful for many people, especially in ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Faafoi should be fired
    Newshub last night reported that Broadcasting Minister Kris Faafoi had apparently promised to help out a mate with an immigration issue. While its normal for people to approach MPs for assistance in this area, when you're a Minister, the rules are different: as the Cabinet Manual says, Ministers must "at ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Adrian Orr – The Reserve Bank’s Revolutionary Governor?
    New Zealand's Underarm Banker: It bears recalling that the “independence” of the Reserve Bank Governor was for decades held up by neoliberal capitalists as the most compelling justification for passing the Reserve Bank Act. Interesting, is it not, how the ruling class’s support for the Bank’s independence lasted no longer than ...
    1 week ago
  • Driving Us Up The Poll.
    Rubbish In, Rubbish Out: Put all this together, and it’s difficult to avoid the conclusion that anyone who responds positively to a pollster’s request to “answer a few questions” is just ever-so-slightly weird. Desperately lonely? Some sort of psephological train-spotter? Political party member primed to skew the poll for or against ...
    1 week ago
  • Jordan Williams, Colin Craig podcast series announced
    “Free at last, Free at last, Thank God almighty we are free at last.” ― Martin Luther King Jr. A long and bitter court feud between former Conservative Party leader Colin Craig and Jordan Williams has been settled, with an apology and compensation from Williams. On Tuesday, Craig sent out ...
    The PaepaeBy Peter Aranyi
    1 week ago
  • How plant-based meat is stretching New Zealand’s cultural and legal boundaries
    Samuel Becher, Victoria University of Wellington and Jessica C Lai, Victoria University of Wellington Earlier this year, the New Zealand-based pizza chain Hell Pizza offered a limited-edition “Burger Pizza”. Its customers weren’t told that the “meat” was plant-based. Some customers complained to the Commerce Commission, which enforces consumer law in ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • Scientific integrity requires critical investigation – not blind acceptance
    Some people seem to want to close down any critical discussion of the current research into the relationship between water fluoride and child IQ. They appear to argue that claims made by researchers should not be open to critical review and that the claims be accepted without proper consideration ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: The shameful reality
    The government has been congratulating itself over the passage of the Zero Carbon Act, which sets out long-term emissions targets. Meanwhile, Climate Action Tracker has the shameful reality: those targets are insufficient:While New Zealand is showing leadership by having passed the world’s second-ever Zero Carbon Act in November 2019, under ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • More secrecy
    The government introduced a Racing Industry Bill today. As an urban who horse racing as pointless-to-cruel, and gambling as a tax on stupidity and/or hope, this isn't normally a bill which would interest me in the slightest, beyond grumpiness at more government money for a dying industry. But there is ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Unlikely online bully, Liam Hehir
    Check. Check. One, two, three, four. Is this thing ON? Hello readers, I logged in last night (yeah, it’s been a while) to mark THE END of the landmark legal case, Jordan Williams v Colin Craig, which (gulp) reached The Supreme Court, in which New Zealand’s most-defamed man was suing the politician he ...
    The PaepaeBy Peter Aranyi
    2 weeks ago
  • The Birth Of Israel: Wrong At The Right Time.
    Before The Birth: Israel’s most fervent supporters set their clocks ticking in Biblical times. They cite the kingdoms of David and Solomon as proof that, in the words of the Exodus movie’s theme-song: “This land is mine.” The majority of Israel’s backers, however, start their clocks in 1933 – the year Adolf ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Hard News: Public Address Word of the Year 2019: Korero phase
    In an unreliable, strange and confusing world, Public Address is proud to present a measure of comfort and stability by annually asking everyone what words or phrases sum up the year that's been – and then giving some of them consumer goods as prizes for being clever or simply lucky.Well, ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Generalist to specialist
    Both my parents are pretty handy – and they seem to have the right tools for most jobs in the garage and they know how to fix practically anything. A similar story could be told about their generation’s experience in the workforce – being a generalist was not unusual and ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    2 weeks ago
  • A “coincidence”
    When it was revealed that NZ First had tried to enrich itself from public office via the Provoncial Growth Fund, the Prime Minister assured us that everything was OK as Shane Jones, the Minister responsible for the fund, had recused himself. Except it seems that that recusal came very late ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Member’s Day
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Worse than I thought
    The Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade Committee has reported back on the government's odious and tyrannical control orders bill. As expected, the fraudulent select committee process has made no significant changes (partly because they couldn't agree, but mostly because it was a stitch-up from the start, with no intention of ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • The cannabis bill and the referendum
    Yesterday, the government released its draft Cannabis Legalisation and Control Bill, which will be put to a non-binding referendum at the next election. I'm not a drug policy expert, but Russell Brown is, and he thinks its pretty good. And pretty obviously, it will be a massive improvement on the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Hard News: The Cannabis Legalisation and Control Bill: pretty good so far
    As you're probably aware, the draft bill outlining the proposed legal cannabis regime to be put to a referendum late next year was published yesterday, and has already attracted a flurry of comment. It's notable that a good deal of the comment is about proposals that aren't actually new.A minimum ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: Alignment
    One of the big problems in New Zealand climate change policy is the government working at cross-purposes with itself. It wants to reduce fossil fuel use, but encourages oil and gas exploration. It wants to reduce transport emissions, but then builds enormous new roads. The problem could be avoided if ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • How climate change will affect food production and security
    Climate Explained is a collaboration between The Conversation, Stuff and the New Zealand Science Media Centre to answer your questions about climate change. If you have a question you’d like an expert to answer, please send it to climate.change@stuff.co.nz According to the United Nations, food shortages are a threat ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    2 weeks ago
  • More bad faith
    Last year, the government announced it was ending offshore oil exploration by no longer issuing new permits. The idea was that the industry would then die off as permits expired. Except almost immediately the government revealed its bad faith, by saying they would extend permits and alter conditions to keep ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Banning foreign money from our elections
    The government has said it will ban foreign donations to political parties and candidates, and will be introducing legislation to be passed under all-stages urgency this afternoon. While I agree with the goal, I don't see a particular case for urgency, unless the government is concerned about a flood of ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Reforming the Education Acts
    The government introduced the Education and Training Bill to Parliament yesterday. Its a massive bill, which replaces both existing Education Acts, as well as various other bits of legislation (including some which are still proceeding through the House). I'll leave the serious analysis to teachers and people who actually know ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Bite-sized learning
    Amelia SharmanThere’s no one-size-fits-all when it comes to micro-credentials, those bits of bite-sized learning that can help workers stay on top of technological change.  What’s a micro-credential? While definitions vary, micro-credentials can be understood as short courses that allow people to learn new skills or have an existing competency recognised. ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    2 weeks ago
  • “Not The Labour Party We Once Knew.”
    All Smiles Now: Claire Szabo is taking up her presidential role after serving as the CEO of Habitat For Humanity. Which is absolutely perfect! After KiwiBuild was so comprehensively mismanaged by Phil Twyford, the party has not only elected a new president from a thoroughly respectable not-for-profit, but one who ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Marxist versus liberal methodology on transgender ideology/identity politics
    While much of the NZ left has transitioned to postmodern and identity politics in relation to transgender ideology, there are some very good articles about that deploy Marxist methodology in relation to this subject.  The one below is from the British marxist group Counterfire and appeared on their site here ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Book review: The Farm by Joanne Ramos
    by Daphna Whitmore At Golden Oaks, a luxurious country retreat in the Hudson Valley, pregnant women have the best care money can buy. From the organic food, personalised exercise programmes, private yoga instruction and daily massages Golden Oaks looks like a country lodge for the upper class. Set some time ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Loosening the purse strings
    When Labour was running for election in 2017, it felt it needed to demonstrate "fiscal responsibility" and signed itself up to masochistic "budget responsibility rules". It was a fool's errand: the sorts of voters who demand fiscal responsibility are also the sorts of voters who believe that labour can never ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: How to get there
    Writing in Stuff, Joel MacManus looks at what we need to do to meet the Zero Carbon Act's targets. The core of it:1. Convert 85 per cent of vehicles on the road to electric. 2. Eliminate fossil fuels from all industrial heating up to 300 degrees Celsius. 3. Double our ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • anti-vaxxers in a measles epidemic: so many ways to be untruthful
    “Anti-vaxers are a pro-death movement,” those comments from Dr Helen Petousis-Harris speaking about six more Measles related deaths in Samoa over the past twenty-four hours. “Anti-vaxers are a pro-death movement,” those comments from Dr Helen Petousis-Harris speaking about six more Measles related deaths in Samoa ...
    SciBlogsBy Alison Campbell
    2 weeks ago

  • Record export highs picked for primary sector
    Sustained high growth in primary industry exports looks set to continue over the next two years with strong prices predicted for farmers, fishers, growers and rural communities. Minister of Agriculture and Minister of State for Trade and Export Growth Damien O’Connor today released the latest Situation and Outlook report for ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    19 hours ago
  • New partnership to boost screen sector job opportunities
    Auckland’s growing screen sector is the catalyst for a new partnership between the Ministry of Social Development and Auckland’s economic development agency Auckland Tourism, Events and Economic Development (ATEED). The launch today at FilmFX in Henderson, is to celebrate the partnership which looks to capitalise on the social and economic development opportunities ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • A minute’s silence for Whakaari White Island victims
    A minute’s silence will be observed at 2.11pm on Monday 16 December in honour of the victims of the Whakaari White Island eruption, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has confirmed. “Wherever you are in New Zealand, or around the world, this is a moment we can stand alongside those who have ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • NZ to help fund fight against measles in the Pacific region
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has announced New Zealand will contribute NZ$1 million of funding towards the joint United Nations Fund for Children (UNICEF) and World Health Organisation (WHO) Pacific Regional Action Plan for Measles.   “Prevention through vaccination is the most effective way of avoiding illness and a costly health emergency. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • New Zealand remembers Sir Peter Snell
    New Zealand is today remembering one of our true sporting heroes, triple Olympic gold medal winner Sir Peter Snell. “He was a legend, here and around the world,” Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said. “Our thoughts are with Sir Peter’s wife Miki and their family.” “Sir Peter is recognised as New ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • PM congratulates Boris Johnson on election victory
    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has congratulated United Kingdom Prime Minister Boris Johnson on his election victory.  “New Zealand and the United Kingdom are close friends and despite our distance we are strongly connected by our history and people,” Jacinda Ardern said.  “I look forward to continuing to work with Prime ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Building a platform for the future of rail
    The Government has released its long term vision for a sustainable 21st Century rail network that gets our cities moving, connects our regions and gets more freight off the roads.   Deputy Prime Minister and State Owned Enterprises Minister Winston Peters said the Government is committed to rebuilding New Zealand’s ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Prime Minister statement Whakaari White Island recovery operation
    I want to start by acknowledging the families who have experienced such grief and such loss since the extraordinary tragedy on Monday. Today was all about reuniting them with their loved ones. We've just come from the airport where many of them were gathered and in amongst what you can ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • New Zealand medical specialists to provide further support to Samoa
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters today announced further support for Samoa’s longer term needs as it continues to respond to a devastating measles epidemic. “Samoa’s health system has experienced massive strain in the wake of the measles epidemic. The volume of patients needing care during this outbreak, and the number of ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Discounted electric-bikes offered to public sector workers
    Discounted electric bikes will be offered up to public sector staff across the country as part of the Government’s work to reduce transport emissions and support healthier transport options.  Associate Minister of Transport Julie Anne Genter officially launched the new initiative at Wellington Hospital today.  “The Government has negotiated bulk-purchase ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Australia and New Zealand confirm joint bid for FIFA Women’s World Cup
    The Australian and New Zealand Governments today launch an historic joint bid to bring the FIFA Women’s World Cup to the Southern Hemisphere for the first time. Australian Minister for Youth and Sport, Richard Colbeck and New Zealand Minister for Sport and Recreation Grant Robertson will announce the bold campaign, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Blackwater gold mine gets PGF boost
    The Provincial Growth Fund (PGF) has approved a $15 million loan to help re-establish a gold mining operation at Blackwater Gold Mine, near Reefton, Rural Communities Minister and local MP Damien O’Connor announced at an event on the West Coast today. “This is great news for the Coast that could ...
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