Written By:
weka - Date published:
6:30 am, March 30th, 2018 - 11 comments
Categories: climate change, james shaw, sustainability -
Tags: climate 2050, david lee, forest and bird, how change happens, james renwick, sue kedgeley
Highlights from Forest and Bird’s event last night Climate 2050: discussing Wellington’s future
Panel discussion,
Twitter coverage of the talks,
James Renwick Professor School of Geography, Environment and Earth Sciences, Victoria,
#climate2050 1.5C is what will allow us to keep having a nice life on this planet
— Idiot/Savant (@norightturnnz) March 29, 2018
Prof. James Renwick #climate2050 not much room to move – we can’t get much hotter – some of it now locked but we can hold if we do something pic.twitter.com/4YIf1gL5qv
— Forest & Bird (@Forest_and_Bird) March 29, 2018
Pertinent twitter comment,
Let’s not pin our hopes on RCP2.6 though – it’s a pathway based on massive scale carbon capture and storage. #Climate2050 pic.twitter.com/tOy0qPgl2O
— David Tong (@Davidxvx) March 29, 2018
Prof. Renwick #climate2050 we must reduce emissions in 5 years to stay at a 1.5 deg increase – what can we do: electrify transport/freight, people centric living, reduce waste, plant trees, figure out livestock emissions – it’s all possible
— Forest & Bird (@Forest_and_Bird) March 29, 2018
Climate Minister James Shaw,
#climate2050 @jamespeshaw says he was late because he was in a budget meeting. He can't talk about it but thinks we'll be pleased
— Idiot/Savant (@norightturnnz) March 29, 2018
#climate2050 @jamespeshaw says innovation is driven by constraints. Climate change is a hell of a constraint
— Idiot/Savant (@norightturnnz) March 29, 2018
https://twitter.com/CubaRaglanGuy/status/979228626997493760
This is always a useful reminder,
https://twitter.com/JennyKayNZ/status/979229243245654016
#climate2050 @jamespeshaw Wellington can develop and export our renewable clean energy knowhow in transport and other sectors so Wellington can be the leader
— Forest & Bird (@Forest_and_Bird) March 29, 2018
Wellington Regional Councillor, and former Green MP Sue Kedgeley,
#climate2050 Sue Kedgeley: niwa says climate change will do unpleasant things to Wellington. Flooding, drought, storms
— Idiot/Savant (@norightturnnz) March 29, 2018
#climate2050 low-lying coastal areas will be forced to retreat. Goodbye Eastbourne
— Idiot/Savant (@norightturnnz) March 29, 2018
#climate2050 The plus side: fixing this means better air, cleaner rivers, easier commutes, more trees
— Idiot/Savant (@norightturnnz) March 29, 2018
Wellington City Councillor David Lee,
#climate2050 David Lee: climate change is climate reality. It is now an economic and social problem as well as an environmental one
— Idiot/Savant (@norightturnnz) March 29, 2018
Q and A session,
#climate2050 Prof Renwick thinks we can make the 2 deg target. 1.5 will need a war footing.
— Idiot/Savant (@norightturnnz) March 29, 2018
https://twitter.com/CubaRaglanGuy/status/979239216675631104
#climate2050 Do we need to amend the RMA to factor in climate change? Shaw: yes.
— Idiot/Savant (@norightturnnz) March 29, 2018
#climate2050 Shaw: But RMA is 30 yrs old, and every govt has messed with it. Its dysfuctional. Time for a rewrite
— Idiot/Savant (@norightturnnz) March 29, 2018
So glad to hear someone saying this,
Rule one of talking to #climate deniers: don’t talk to climate deniers. Identify your persuadables and talk to them instead. #Climate2050
— David Tong (@Davidxvx) March 29, 2018
#climate2050 – I'm loving how many engaged young people are here. This is what happens when you advertise events in a #youth centric way. Young people care and want to be involved. We aren't the future. We're the present. We are voting. We are protesting. We want positive change.
— WastelessWanderess (@Wasteless_cait) March 29, 2018
https://twitter.com/CubaRaglanGuy/status/979244359689191424
#climate2050 Shaw: exporting NZ ag best practice would significantly reduce global methane emissions
— Idiot/Savant (@norightturnnz) March 29, 2018
#climate2050 @jamespeshaw credits enviroschools for pushing the generational shift in climate awareness
— Idiot/Savant (@norightturnnz) March 29, 2018
Forest and Bird also put out a press release,
Forest & Bird: driving 500m melts 1kg of glacier ice
At the event Climate 2050: discussing Wellington’s future this evening Forest & Bird climate advocate Adelia Hallett highlighted new research showing that every 500 metres we drive melts at least one kilogram of glacier ice.
“This brings home the reality that even small decisions make a difference to New Zealand’s natural environment. If you can bicycle or walk 500 metres instead of driving, you have saved a kilogram of glacier ice,” says Ms Hallett.
“But individuals can’t make good decisions without the right support or infrastructure. To the politicians here this evening, I say: show us the bike lanes and electric trains,” she adds.
The research, by climate scientists at the Universities of Bremen and Innsbruck, looked at how much mountain glaciers would melt under various climate scenarios. They showed that the world has already committed to losing more than a third of its mountain glacier ice. How much more is lost depends on our actions now.
“Glaciers are highly visible symbols of climate change,” says Ms Hallett. “But each of those kilograms of glacier ice also translates into other effects: more inundation of low lying areas by the sea, ocean acidification, extreme weather events, and pressure on native species.”
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Forest & Bird @Forest_and_Bird
Prof. Renwick #climate2050 we must reduce emissions in 5 years to stay at a 1.5 deg increase – what can we do: electrify transport/freight, people centric living, reduce waste, plant trees, figure out livestock emissions – it’s all possible
6:23 PM – Mar 29, 2018
Meanwhile CO2 keeps marching upwards:
Daily CO2
March 28, 2018: 410.07 ppm
March 28, 2017: 409.47 ppm
https://www.co2.earth/
Plse delete this comment if considered too defeatest! 🙁
Some believe we are already at 1.6c above baseline and 2C is inevitable.
The only way something good happens is if we act 😉
“Some believe we are already at 1.6c above baseline and 2C is inevitable.”
I don’t get into the maths that much because there is so much disagreement about it and I think it’s rearranging decks chairs when we could be using our mental effort to make actual change. But in general, from what I understand, the IPCC projections (which is what govts are using) are based on CCS tech that we don’t have and probably never will.
So I’m less concerned about arguing over 1.5 vs 2C than I am about impressing the fact that this situation is as serious as it gets (except maybe for nuclear war), and we have to act urgently. We have a window (Renwick is saying 5 years) and after that it will be much much harder.
In NZ we have a huge opportunity here, given the centre left govt at last and a Climate Minister who comes from a party that has been pushing for action for decades and is already ideologically and practically on board with not only the need for change but the ways to do it. That is huge and something we can take advantage of.
“Some believe”
Faith based policy.
Thanks for your list of latest figures. John,
I read the speech that Meagan Woods gave to the Petroleum conference last week which bodes well for rail since the minister has clearly defined the long term
goals of her Labour lead coalition/NZF Government “transition to a
low-carbon or a net-zero carbon economy will be as transformational as the
industrial revolution was to the societies and economies in the nineteenth
century.”
so Labour need to get all the regional rail systems re-opened and plan to electrify the rail service from Napier to Gisborne and all networks to achieve that goal.
We wont have any life on our planet if the CO2 keeps rising John.
We have been tracking it every three months and it is steadily rising still now.
So more pressure needs to go onto the new government to turn this ship around before we are all doomed.
They must use electric powered locomotives on freight trains to move our freight as we would reduce greenhouse gases five times quicker than just using truck freight expansion that is accelerating carbon emissions now..
CO2 levels are the highest now since 20 million years ago,and increasing relentlessly! humans are 2 million years old! on Global Warming https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIRqgwGV6I0
Is Earth on the Edge of Runaway Warming?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZjaEE0_MOk
Redpilldown
4 years ago
Mother nature is now playing her cruelest trick yet, we are the frog being very slowly boiled alive. The frogs in charge are to busy taking bribes to fill their bank accounts, the media is more worried about little beeba and miley frog and the general population thinks its cool to have so many plastic toys to play with in the lovely pot of warm water.
Climate apocolypse?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzVMV-Yj2qo
Professor Peter Wadhams ScD, Professor of Ocean Physics / Head of the Polar Ocean Physics Group-Department of Applied Mathematics and Theoretical Physics, University of Cambridge, UK RE: A Farewell to Ice: A Report from the Arctic. We could be just eighteen years away from a climate apocalypse…
“But individuals can’t make good decisions without the right support or infrastructure. To the politicians here this evening, I say: show us the bike lanes and electric trains,”
– No meat
– Forage plant food and grow herbs, salads and fruit
– Walk places
– Live within walking distance of public transport to work
– Slow down and learn to enjoy where you are
– Think of the smiles
– Use vehicles, power boats, planes, whiteware and power tools sparingly
– Think about your own death and the deaths of loved ones
– Pray inside yourself, giving thanks
100% Grafton gully.
Energy minister Hon’ Meagan Woods wants renewable energy systems like solar power accelerated now and overseas they are building electric powered electric locomotives and this is a big switch away from carbon burning fuels to a clean green environment where trains with steel wheels and electric engines will end use of trucks with 32 petroleum based toxic styrene/butadiene tyres that shed 7 kilograms of tyre dust for every 500 kms they travel (MOT/NZTA) while electric trains will not pollute at all as steel wheels are non toxic.
This all makes so much sense now.
Mean time in Dunedin we have a Green Council wanting to spend $60 million on a hotel on the foreshore of Otago Harbour.
Obviously they know sea level rise is a hoax. Bloody Fools.
How about a law suit targeting those 90 companies, hurt them where they care the most, their pockets…..
“The climate crisis of the 21st century has been caused largely by just 90 companies, which between them produced nearly two-thirds of the greenhouse gas emissions generated since the dawning of the industrial age, new research suggests.
The companies range from investor-owned firms – household names such as Chevron, Exxon and BP – to state-owned and government-run firms.”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/nov/20/90-companies-man-made-global-warming-emissions-climate-change