Cooperation vs the tea party

Written By: - Date published: 3:42 pm, July 30th, 2011 - 23 comments
Categories: Economy, International, us politics - Tags: ,

Cooperation is the word that the tea party has forgotten. But increasingly it looks like the evolutionary feature that defines humanity. I find it rather amusing that the tea party is un-cooperating itself towards extinction. It is a pity that they damage the rest of us on their way out.

In the current Economist we have “The evolution of generosity – Welcome, stranger

THE extraordinary success of Homo sapiens is a result of four things: intelligence, language, an ability to manipulate objects dexterously in order to make tools, and co-operation. Over the decades the anthropological spotlight has shifted from one to another of these as the prime mover of the package, and thus the fundament of the human condition. At the moment co-operation is the most fashionable subject of investigation. In particular, why are humans so willing to collaborate with unrelated strangers, even to the point of risking being cheated by people whose characters they cannot possibly know?

The upshot was that, as the researchers predicted, generosity pays—or, rather, the cost of early selfishness is greater than the cost of trust. This is because the likelihood that an encounter will be one-off, and thus worth cheating on, is just that: a likelihood, rather than a certainty.

Then we look at the 80 or so recently elected members of the house from the tea party wing of the republicans who delayed a republican bill from the congress because it wasn’t strong enough. But it was immediately and unceremoniously dumped in the senate.

“To the American people, I would say we tried our level best,” Mr. Boehner said as he concluded a debate that had been abruptly halted Thursday evening when he fell short of the votes for victory. “We tried to do our best for our country, but some people still say no.”

That is complete bullshit. Quite simply it was a bill that had little support in the senate (even 22 republican senators voted against it), but was destined to be vetoed by the president if it did pass. It was a complete exercise in futility and did absolutely nothing to solve the threatening issue of the arbitrary debt ceiling.

As the Lexington blogger at the Economist acerbically points out about the Republician bill.

Er, hang on. The “something” the Republican House has come up with is a non-solution (since the Senate cannot buy it) to a problem entirely of the Republicans’ own making. The reason for this crisis is that instead of just raising the debt ceiling in the customary way so that the government can pay the bills Congress has already run up, the Republicans decided to point a pistol at the American economy and threaten to pull the trigger if they did not get the spending cuts they wanted.

Sure, America needs to tackle its burgeoning entitlement programmes. But not now, when cutting spending will make an insipid recovery worse, and more especially not like this, hijacking a routine procedure and using it to bring the country to the edge of downgrading or default. At least the Republicans have done something? Gimme a break.

I’d agree. Somehow I don’t see that forcing an issue in such a way that it looks more like an attempt at kidnap is something that will engender the type of cooperation that will ensure this problem gets solved.

It looks like the republican bill was only put forward in a ball-grasping exercise like a haka to help drag the tea party idealists into the cooperation that is required for politics to work. It is good that the republican leadership is giving their tea party members the training wheels that they require to learn with. It would be better if they did it outside of the institution that affects so many world wide.

The way this is proceeding at present, I suspect that the republicans are sowing the seeds for their defeat next year. And that will mainly be because the antics of the tea party will not be seen as being in any way cooperative – which in turn will make sure that many voters will have already given them their last chance.

23 comments on “Cooperation vs the tea party”

  1. lprent 1

    BTW: Does anyone know why they are throwing peas overboard in the cartoon?

  2. randal 2

    the tea party have concocted a mish mash of historical fact with infantile omnipotence and desire to create soemthing that has no rational basis except their own fantastical imaginations.

  3. Colonial Viper 3

    Boehner pulling the GOP out of the debt talks last minute sent Washington a very clear signal – he is not in charge of his own caucus. The Koch brothers backed Tea Party freshmen congressmen are the tail wagging the entire Republican dog.

    Obama has it when he said that the US might have an AAA credit rating (just) but that their political system would be judged less than AAA

    btw, the US remains an enormously wealthy country. Apple has US$70B in cash reserves, more than the entire Federal Government today.

    And the richest 400 people in the country (according to Forbes) hold wealth of about US$1.4T.

    • Afewknowthetruth 3.1

      Money is created out of thin air when a loan is made.

      http://videolectures.net/google_grignon_debt/

      None of the money people think they have actually exists. Most of it is in the form of computer entries. And some of it is in the form of pieces of worthless paper. If ALL loans were repaid overnight most of the money people think exists would vanish overnight.

      For the moment people believe the computer entries and pieces of paper have value, so they able to trade them. However, it’s when a lot of people try to trade them in for something tangible that the real value, i.e. zero, becomes apaparent. Hence gold has risen from under $1200 to $1600+ over the past year, as people offload their ‘toilet paper’.

      China is currently offloading as much of the worthless stuff (T bonds etc.) as possible and is converting the computer digits and pieces of paper into gold, oil, ownership of land and companies etc.

      Whether the pieces of paper that claim ownnership of land and companies will be of much use in the severely energy- depleted world we are headed into is yet to be determined. And whther the gold will be much use when there is little food a few years hence is also food for thought.

      The financial system contains the makings of its own downfall.

      It has only been the increasing availability of cheap energy that has allowed the Ponzi scheme to inflate to the degree it has. The days of cheap energy and abundant are rapidly drawing to a close. The Ponzi scheme based on consumption of oil and creating money out of thin air must collapse soon.

  4. Colonial Viper 4

    Illegal Mexican immigrants leave US for better economic conditions at home

    Seriously, you read that right.

    “It’s now easier to buy homes on credit, find a job and access higher education in Mexico,” Sacramento’s Mexican consul general, Carlos González Gutiérrez, said Wednesday. “We have become a middle-class country.”

    Mexico’s unemployment rate is now 4.9 percent, compared with 9.4 percent joblessness in the United States.

    An estimated 300,000 undocumented immigrants have left California since 2008.

    http://www.sacbee.com/2011/07/28/3799513/improving-mexican-economy-draws.html

  5. Bill 5

    Co-operation isn’t the problem. Capitulation is the problem. The ‘left’ are forever going down the road of compromise and winding up in capitulation city.

    • Colonial Viper 5.1

      yeah you can see how Obama has completely failed so far in his presidency, even with things that the majority of Americans support eg. higher taxes for the rich and a public healthcare option.

      In the US big money rules the game of politics. A list of big donors to Obama reveals all the same suspects, banks, big oil, etc.

  6. Afewknowthetruth 6

    The US is going to have to increase the budget for cleaning up the mess after weather-related disasters -another consequence of the short term, pro-corporate profit policies that have been in place for decades.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/post/2011-ties-record-for-most-billion-dollar-weather-disasters/2011/07/26/gIQAvMd7aI_blog.html

    2011 already ties for the most, and the hurricane season has hardly started.

    And until hurricanes deliver water, the southwest bakes and burns -yet more environmental and economic toll. No wonder Mexicans are leavi for home.

  7. Oligarkey 8

    Up until the last few years, i saw the level of greed in the US oligarchy as akin to a ravenous serpent eating its own tail in pursuit of more flesh to feast on. I saw the American empire as reminiscent of the classical Roman one – the oligarchy having become so arrogant and greedy that the consensus that its rule was built on would have to collapse. Now i realise – they have simply been in a process of moving their capital all over the world creating capitalist “democracies” that have a veneer of independence, but in financial and macroeconomic terms are owned and controlled by the centers of global capital, that are given form in the World Bank, IMF and other US-based, but ostensibly global financial institutions. The plan has been to weaken national institutions, such as labour unions, by playing divide and rule with the supply of capital (unemployment and offshoring kills union/labour bargaining power), delivering control of the political process to the capital-supplying institutions. So it’s faulty to look at the US’s crisis as national and recent. It’s part of a global, long-term plan to create one world market, where the share of economic surplus going to labour decreases, and the share going to capital increases. So it actually suits the capital elite quite nicely to have the US markets in turmoil, because it further weakens national institutions of civil society that provide a counter-balance to their control of the political process, both nationally and globally. It increases their bargaining power in the labour market.

    This plan has been in action, since Lyndon Johnson entered the Whitehouse in 1963, and the Kennedy brothers’ plans to reach a compromise with the Soviets were scrapped. Incidentally it’s my belief that the Kennedy brothers were both killed due to this ambition, as was Italian President Aldor Moro (was in the process of seeking an “historic compromise” between his “christian democrats” and the Italian Communist Party when, in 1978, he was assassinated). Moro’s wife testified at the trial for her husband’s assassination, that according to her husband, none other than Henry Kissinger had told him that he would be “badly punished” if he kept up with this plan. A BBC doco series called “Gladio” points toward the P2 masonic lodge as organising the execution of Kissinger’s threat. That lodge controlled all the Italian security and intel institutions at the time.

    It’s an absolutely ruthless conspiracy, that was alluded to in 1961 by John Kennedy.

    Where is this plan supposed to end up? Probably total corporate control of every society on the planet.

    We need to get rid of the quasi-fascist macroeconomic settings of the Washington consensus that underpin the power of global capital in NZ, and were first introduced in the fascist dictatorship of Pinochet’s Chile. These are, the floating dollar (leaves us open to attack by large global financial interests), employment law that kills the bargaining power of the unions (the Labour Party’s Employment Relations Act retained this aspect of National’s 1991 Employment Contracts Act), and finally, laws governing foreign investment, which allow billions of dollars of capital to be leeched oversees every year – mostly by the foreign banks. David Lange claimed that ex-U.S. Vice President Dan Quayle threatened to have him “liquidated” over the anti-nuclear policy in the 1980s – and the introduction of “Washing Consensus” policy may be what saved him. Funnily enough, Winston is the only politician that has the guts to take on these issues. The Labour Party members who are in the know are either owned by said interests or are too scared to oppose them.

    But what’s the point of surviving to live in such a bleak future? The time has come to say in a loud voice, what is true.

    • Afewknowthetruth 8.1

      I agree with most of what you say. However, the problem goes back a lot further than you have indicated. Indeed, it goes right back to the early 1600s, when corporations were provided with Royal Charters that gave the the ‘right’ to loot the planet, subjugate or annihilate people etc.

      In conjunction with money-lenders such as the Rothchilds, global corporate-financial empires were created more than a century ago. The Americans were able to get in on the act when they started to make millions, and then billions, of dollars out of extracting and refining oil. Rockefeller was particularly noted for his manipulative and unethical practices. Famous quote of David Rockefeller:”Why would you care about people?”

      Global corporations and money-lenders will continue to degrade the planet and subjugate populations until they can’t, I’m afraid.

      ‘Where is this plan supposed to end up? Probably total corporate control of every society on the planet.’

      That has already been achieved (other than the few remaining hunter-gatherers and perhaps the remaining comunist states).

      ‘The Labour Party members who are in the know are either owned by said interests or are too scared to oppose them.’

      Very likely. We certainly do not get an ounce of truth from them on such matters -just a deathly silence.

      ‘But what’s the point of surviving to live in such a bleak future? ‘

      We have entered an energetic-environmental bottleneck and few humans are likely to survive what is on the horizon. The Powers That Be probably know that and have made their plans. The covert fascism that characterises most western ‘democracies’ will probably morph into overt fascism, and then feudalism as we slide down the slope of energy descent and environmental degradation .

    • mikesh 8.2

      Opponents of the plan, such as Gadaffi, certainly seem to be having a pretty rough time.

  8. Oligarkey 9

    Afewknowthetruth

    Yeah – you’re probably right. I meant the plan, as it has appeared in its particular form since the 1960s – i.e. the process of financial and corporate globalisation. I think there is still the possibility for genuine popular re-taking of power, when the energy crisis reaches its zenith, and unemployment reaches 20%-30%. That will happen in the next 10 years. The left has until then to get the word out, so that people aren’t drawn down the road of supporting a new fascist consensus.

    Of course, events as they unfold in the US will be crucial. I’m looking forward to knowing the content of Obama’s last speech as president.

  9. Afewknowthetruth 10

    Oligarkey.

    The founding father of the Rothschild empire suposedly used the term ‘one world government’ in the late 1700s. Who knows if that is true?

    ‘That will happen in the next 10 years. The left has until then to get the word out’

    You may be right but I personally believe there will be a major breakdown of the system within 2-3 years, for which most people will be totally unprepared.

    As for the left getting the word out, I don’t think that will happen. A combination of ignorance and denial characterises the left (just as much as it characterises the right). There is no sign of any chink in the armour yet. Labour is still campaigning on growth, consumerism and globalisation.

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  • A Movement That No Longer Moves.
    Moving And Shaking: There was a time when people spoke matter-of-factly about the “labour movement” – a political phenomenon understood to embrace much more than the Labour Party. Included within the term’s definition was the whole trade union movement – many of whose members looked upon the Labour Party as ...
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  • NZ ‘left’ politically embracing extreme postmodernism
    by Philip Ferguson Much of the left, even people who formally identify as marxists, have collapsed politically in the face of postmodern gender theory of the sort pioneered by American philosopher Judith Butler. For Butler even biological sex is socially constructed. “If the immutable character of sex is contested, perhaps ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • The obvious question
    The media is reporting that the (alleged) Labour party sexual assaulter has resigned from their job at Parliament, which means hopefully he won't be turning up there making people feel unsafe in future. Good. But as with everything about this scandal, it just raises other questions. Most significantly: why the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The moment I found out that you found out, I acted swiftly
    By Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern I am every bit as angry as you are. I am every bit as disappointed as you must be. The people with power, oversight and the ability to do something about these processes within the Labour Party should be ashamed. Whoever those people are, I ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • This is why people hate property developers
    Property developers think there is an "oversupply" of houses in Auckland:High turnover rates and falling prices may be a sign that there are too many new houses going in to some parts of Auckland, commentators say. [...] Property developer David Whitburn said there was a "bit of an oversupply" in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Australia to Pacific: “Fuck you, you can all drown”
    World leaders are meeting in New York in two weeks for the 2019 Climate Action Summit, where they are expected to announce new and more ambitious targets to stop the world from burning. But the Australian Prime Minister won't be there, despite being in the USA at the time:Scott Morrison ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
     Two-Faced? Labour insiders' commitment to the neoliberal status quo puts them at odds with their party’s membership; its trade union affiliates; and a majority of Labour voters, but this only serves to strengthen the perception they have of themselves as a special elite. Among the lesser breeds, they’ll talk up a ...
    1 week ago
  • Ten reasons the Tories do NOT want an election
    There has been a lot of talk about Boris Johnson wanting an election, and he has blustered with great gusto about 'chicken' Jeremy Corbyn refusing one, but I think there are many reasons why he is secretly glad he has been refused the opportunity:The Tories are an utter rabble,tearing themselves ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    2 weeks ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 weeks ago
  • Māori Language Week with The Civilian
    Kia ora, Aotearoa. It’s that magical time of year. Te Wiki o te Reo Māori. In English, the week that frightens talk radio. As you probably know by now, all your favourite media outlets are participating, some more successfully than others. Stuff has changed its name to Puna for the ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Will Horizons act on climate change?
    Local body elections are coming up next month. And it looks like all Palmerston North candidates for Horizons (the Manawatu-Whanganui Regional Council) want to take action on climate change:Climate change is set to be a key issue in Palmerston North for the next three years if those wanting to get ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • BORA reform is stalled
    Eighteen months ago, the government promised to strengthen the Bill of Rights Act, by explicitly affirming the power of the courts to issue declarations of inconsistency and requiring Parliament to formally respond to them. So how's that going? I was curious, so I asked for all advice about the proposal. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Corbyn and Brexit
    As the Brexit saga staggers on, the focus is naturally enough on the Prime Minister and his attempts to achieve Brexit “do or die”. But the role played by the Leader of the Opposition is of almost equal interest and complexity. The first problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago
  • A ditch for him to die in
    Last week, English Prime Minister Boris Johnson boldly declared that he would rather die be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit. Unfortunately for him, the UK parliament accepted the challenge, and promptly dug one for him. The "rebellion bill" requires him to ask for and secure yet another temporary ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago

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