Daily review 01/02/2024

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1. SPC 1

   1 February 2024 at 5:46 pm

   Has anyone else now started imagining Luxon with the hair of the shadow standing beside him?
   • Grey Area 1.1

     1 February 2024 at 7:03 pm

     Hair of the shadow?
     • SPC 1.1.1

       1 February 2024 at 7:09 pm

       He is never interviewed alone and the shadow never has a bald head.
       • Grey Area 1.1.1.1

         1 February 2024 at 7:29 pm

         Sorry but to me you have a habit of being obtuse. In answer to your question, no, I have never imagined Luxon with anyone else's hair on his bald head.
       • Incognito 1.1.1.2

         1 February 2024 at 8:24 pm

         Because of the camera focus it’s impossible to spot the hairy tail that wags the bald dog.
       • Muttonbird 1.1.1.3

         1 February 2024 at 8:31 pm

         Do we know what the shadow's name is? He works very hard.
   • SPC 1.2

     2 February 2024 at 7:47 pm

     Brilliant move by Luxon to bring his bald man alter ego for the visit to the marae

     https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350163671/tama-potaka-rules-out-treaty-referendum-new-minister-prepares-waitangi.
2. Dennis Frank 2

   1 February 2024 at 5:57 pm

   Maybe this guy has more substance than the wokester thing suggests…

   One of his flagship policies was the Hate Crime and Public Order (Scotland) Bill, which he promised would streamline existing legislation as well as add additional protections to minorities while maintaining rights to freedom of speech and freedom of expression. The bill has been criticised by the Catholic Church, the National Secular Society as well as writers, and in September 2020 it was amended to remove prosecution for cases of unintentionally stirring up hate, which could theoretically include libraries stocking contentious books.

   Despite his initial promises, Yousaf in October 2020 said that the exception to the Public Order Act 1986 which allows people to use "otherwise illegal language" in their own homes should be abolished.

   He's capable of learning from experience, in other words. His tight winning margin will reign in his innate wokesterism considerably, one would expect.

   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humza_Yousaf
3. Dennis Frank 3

   1 February 2024 at 6:10 pm

   Both tv news channels led with the Costello story. One's reporter said she was dancing on the head of a pin, but 3's political editor seemed unable to grasp an obvious angle. Think the story will grow legs tomorrow when more capable analysts pitch in.
   • Anne 3.1

     1 February 2024 at 7:19 pm

     Ms Costello is a perfect example of the:

     https://therapist.com/behaviors/dunning-kruger-effect/

     The problem with such people is they simply don't know how stupid they are so they are able to ride out the consequences of their behaviour without batting an eyelid.
     • Muttonbird 3.1.1

       1 February 2024 at 7:27 pm

       
       • Anne 3.1.1.1

         1 February 2024 at 7:53 pm

         I actually spot checked Slater's interview with Costello. Never again. Slater claimed this Coalition govt. is the first one to produce actual documents and everyone knows the agreement. Costello in her ignorance agreed.

         1) We don't know because they have never been released – as far as I know.

         2) I distinctly recall Ardern and Peters signing their coalition documents in front of the TV cameras in 2017.

         https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/342266/video-coalition-deals-signed
         • Muttonbird 3.1.1.1.1

           1 February 2024 at 7:58 pm

           Also, there is a very close link between Costello/NZF and the anti-vax cookers at InsanityCheck Radio.
     • Dennis Frank 3.1.2

       1 February 2024 at 7:31 pm

       Another strong contender:

       Housing Minister Chris Bishop said: "They're both harmful, I am certainly addicted to caffeine, I’ve had four coffees today."

       It makes him feel so speedy he imagines running rings around everyone all the time. Gets him right off.

       Public health Professor Janet Hoek said she hadn't seen any evidence that caffeine is killing 5000 New Zealanders – 13 a day.

       I presume that's due to not asking Winston for it! Intrepid reporters should note this lapse & ask him for it themselves.

       https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2024/02/labour-calls-for-minister-casey-costello-s-sacking-over-new-tobacco-revelation.html
     • Chess Player 3.1.3

       1 February 2024 at 7:54 pm

       That's a good summary actually – we've had a few PMs like that too
   • joe90 3.2

     1 February 2024 at 7:28 pm

     Casey dindu nuffin…

     @tmurphyNZ

     Now, Assoc Health Minister Casey Costello tells the House, when grilled, that the notes she handed to officials on tobacco excise were a 5-page compilation of past NZ First policy positions by a variety of unknown authors.

     https://twitter.com/tmurphyNZ/status/1752868124469411911
     • Dennis Frank 3.2.1

       1 February 2024 at 7:36 pm

       Ah, the plausible deniability play. When producing party policy documents, initial suggestions have individual authors. Compilations may, but when accepted by the party via a formal decision as draft policy, they become group-authored so they show up as anonymous. No blame here…
       • Muttonbird 3.2.1.1

         1 February 2024 at 8:04 pm

         Does the minister not know that when she hands over group-authored notes to health ministry officials in the form of past NZ First policy, those notes speak for her?

         I mean, they’re already going for the Sergeant Schultz defence only three months in…
4. Dennis Frank 4

   1 February 2024 at 6:19 pm

   Complicity with tobacco companies is detailed here, providing names linking occupations to National & NZF: https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2024/02/experts-detail-swathe-of-possible-connections-between-coalition-government-politicians-and-tobacco-industry-david-seymour-responds.html

   Public health Professor Janet Hoek, alongside co-authors from the University of Otago, released an article documenting possible channels of influence and similarities between the rhetoric used by the Coalition Government and the tobacco lobby.

   They say it "makes it timely to remind politicians of their" obligations under the World Health Organization Framework Convention on Tobacco Control (FCTC). FCTC includes clauses to protect policymaking from tobacco industry interference – which has been ratified by New Zealand – meaning it's critical the G free from interference. Article 5.3 of the FCTC requires governments to "interact with tobacco companies only as required for regulatory purposes", as acknowledged on the New Zealand Ministry of Health's website.
5. gsays 5

   1 February 2024 at 6:21 pm

   There is a pun about smoke and mirrors, but for all the consternation about tobacco influence, y'all have short memories…

   From less than a year ago, or is it only bad if they do it?

   https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/486390/prime-minister-chris-hipkins-responds-to-revelations-chief-of-staff-led-lobbying-firm
6. Dennis Frank 6

   1 February 2024 at 7:17 pm

   So Chloe launches her bid 11am tomorrow: https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350164491/live-chloe-swarbrick-announce-co-leadership-bid

   I expect the Green Left Network to put up an alternative candidate, if only to try & prove they ain't as pathetic as their misbehaviour in recent years suggests.

   To provide evidence for why they'll be totally paranoid about her, one could best cite her greatest hits (an eclectic selection)…

   1. She "graduated with a Bachelor of Laws and a Bachelor of Arts in Philosophy. She says she did not want to be a lawyer but wanted to learn more about the Treaty of Waitangi and the legal system."
   2. "In 2012, Swarbrick opened her first business, a New Zealand-made fashion label called The Lucid Collective"
   3. "Around the same time, she began working in the newsroom at the student radio station 95bFM as a news writer and newsreader, before becoming a producer and eventually host of The Wire."
   4. "In 2014, Swarbrick wrote her first piece for What's Good magazine. She became the editor, and an owner. Later that year, The Lucid Collective held a New Zealand Fashion Week side-show at the Gow Langsford Gallery and participated in the "Youthquake" exhibition at the New Zealand Fashion Museum. The label went on to be stocked across Auckland, Wellington, and Christchurch, before Swarbrick and Bartley Catt closed the business.
   5. Swarbrick won a New Zealander of the Year Local Hero Award. In 2016, Swarbrick and Bartley Catt started a digital consultancy and artist management agency called TIPS.
   6. In May 2019, Swarbrick received the Jane Goodall Trailblazer Award.[which] recognises individuals who have demonstrated dedication to the prosperity of animals, people, or the planet through their work. In 2020, Swarbrick was named to Fortune magazine's '40 Under 40' listing under the "Government and Politics" category.
   7. At age 23 she was the youngest politician to enter Parliament in New Zealand since Marilyn Waring in 1975.

   It's partly that onward & upward trend that will spook the GLN, but mainly her proficiency in capitalist operating procedure, which will be beyond their cerebral capacity to integrate. Not so much that they will see her as inherently rightist – more that it gives her considerable influence amongst centrists & critical swing voters.

   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chl%C3%B6e_Swarbrick
   • observer 6.1

     1 February 2024 at 7:40 pm

     Dear oh dear. You do use a vast number of words to say nothing.

     Chloe will get the job because she's the best candidate. It's that simple.

     Who's paranoid? Any examples, anybody at all? In reality, not your imagination.
     • Jilly Bee 6.1.1

       1 February 2024 at 7:48 pm

       Thank you Observer – I'm always tempted to have a crack, but fear I would lose my cool.
     • Dennis Frank 6.1.2

       1 February 2024 at 7:53 pm

       Rather than trying to predict their behaviour, best to wait & see what they do. If they fail to promote a leftist alternative, everyone will assume they're still just hot air.
     • weka 6.1.3

       1 February 2024 at 8:14 pm

       there were a fair few lefties (including on TS) who believed CS was right wing when she first went into politics. Her background was hard for some people to parse. Likewise Shaw, some people still think he's a neoliberal shill. Bizarre.

       I'm not sure if she is the best person for the job, depends on who else stands. Def a front runner, but I hope Teanau Tuiono puts his hand up, and Genter. I'd like to see some things hashed out, the candidates put through their paces, and the membership have the opportunity to learn more about them. The public too.
       • Dennis Frank 6.1.3.1

         1 February 2024 at 8:36 pm

         I'm not sure if she is the best person for the job

         Likewise, but I cited her greatest hits when I saw them on Wikipedia, because it gave her more substance & credibility than I thought she actually had – I was impressed! Shame she can't grasp that minority rights isn't a doctrine to be used by parliamentarians to discriminate against free speech users, but maybe she'll get there eventually…
         • weka 6.1.3.1.1

           1 February 2024 at 9:26 pm

           Shame she can't grasp that minority rights isn't a doctrine to be used by parliamentarians to discriminate against free speech users

           what's that referring to specifically? Because isn't that a party problem?
           • Dennis Frank 6.1.3.1.1.1

             2 February 2024 at 5:12 am

             Yeah, the party problem. They're all guilty. They will eventually have to face up to admitting that censoring elderly members is a suppression of minority rights – until then they will seem clueless in public whenever they do it.

             Of course they will whine & moan `we only did it once'. It's still wrong. They are insufficiently moral.
             • weka …

               2 February 2024 at 8:49 am

               can you please explain what you are referring to?
               • Dennis Frank …

                 2 February 2024 at 9:02 am

                 The censoring of the 80 year old feminist on the GP website that caused me to cease involvement with the party for the second time about 3 years ago, plus the editor's resignation, meaning two women were victimised.

                 We've discussed this previously, I think. They seem to feel they must privilege trans worries at the expense of the civil rights of others. I realise it may just be being obtuse rather than deliberate discrimination.
         • weka 6.1.3.1.2

           1 February 2024 at 9:28 pm

           leaving aside the content of this speech, the style makes me uncomfortable. I'm not a fan of the bible thumping approach to politics.

           https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1voD8EsdDAw&ab_channel=JonTeriini
           • Dennis Frank 6.1.3.1.2.1

             2 February 2024 at 5:18 am

             Same, but her passion does seem to work for her audience as per tradition. She risks seeming shrill when she does that style though.
         • Muttonbird 6.1.3.1.3

           1 February 2024 at 9:42 pm

           Beautiful. Marginalised boomer playing the victim there:

           Playing the victim (also known as victim playing, victim card, or self-victimization) is the fabrication or exaggeration of victimhood for a variety of reasons such as to justify abuse to others, to manipulate others, a coping strategy, attention seeking or diffusion of responsibility.

           To be honest, given your comment history I think it's a coping strategy, and attention seeking…actually, its all of them.
           • weka 6.1.3.1.3.1

             1 February 2024 at 9:45 pm

             I strongly suggest that you stop with the personal insults because it's starting to look like a pattern of behaviour (and then I will put my mod hat on).
           • Dennis Frank 6.1.3.1.3.2

             2 February 2024 at 5:21 am

             Dunno what the hell you're on about. If you're trying to suggest that you don't comprehend the principle of minority rights, why not just say that??
             • Muttonbird …

               2 February 2024 at 7:43 pm

               At least I know what minority means.
   • Chess Player 6.2

     1 February 2024 at 7:52 pm

     Interested in whether any of the 'businesses' Swarbrick created are still in business, and if not, how long they lasted?

     Starting's easy – finishing is hard.
     • Muttonbird 6.2.1

       1 February 2024 at 8:34 pm

       Cool, cool. In addition to you not knowing the first thing about press conferences, you also know nothing about business and entrepreneurship.

       A question to the mods: What are the previous handles this ISP has commented under? It’s not breaking anonymity or pseudo-anonymity and I think users of this forum should know this stuff.
       • lprent 6.2.1.1

         1 February 2024 at 9:46 pm

         Pretty sure that CP tends to use the same handle most or all of the time.

         This is an inexact science because of the way that dynamic IPs are allocated and reused by ISPs. It becomes a art of looking at frequencies.

         select distinct comment_author, count(*), count(distinct(to_ip(comment_author_ip))) as ips from wp_comments where comment_author_ip in (
select distinct to_ip(comment_author_ip) from wp_comments where comment_author="Chess Player" ) group by comment_author;

         CP has 426 comments under IPs associated with "Chess Player" across 65 IPs. Has only had one 'e-mail' since November 2008.

         There are 43 other handles that have shared those same IPs. Now just to point out how complicated this gets. Two of the results are….

         Muttonbird 6 comments on 2 IPs that Chess Player also used.
         lprent 16 comments on 2 IPs that Chess Player also used.

         Since I haven't made any comments as CP and I suspect you haven't either. I guess that is just the dynamic IPs inside a region or the IPs being shuffled by the ISPs.

         I have the highest number of matches, which probably reflects the number of comments I have made on the site since 2007. Yours is the 6th equal most frequent match

         Note that this looks at all stored comments including those that are not visible because they are in the trash or set to not visible.

         What are the previous handles this ISP has commented under?

         So short answer – and assuming you meant IP. Chess Player doesn't appear to use other handles. I'd have to do a lexical analysis to be more certain. But there probably aren't large enough sub-samples sizes…

         😈
         • Muttonbird 6.2.1.1.1

           1 February 2024 at 10:01 pm

           Apologies, I'm sure you didn't need that distraction, but it was very informative!

           So, IP doesn’t count and nothing to stop Chess Player commenting under a different handle with a different email address.
7. joe90 7

   1 February 2024 at 8:54 pm

   Taylor Swift tells her father that she's done with saying nothing.

   https://youtu.be/BDMwCGdKeCQ

   Republicans are about to be blindsided by a pop culture tsunami called Taylor Swift. They are in no way ready for it.

   Republicans have always been terrible at reaching younger voters, mostly because they don’t really try. When they put the Republican National Committee chairwoman on the Sunday morning shows, the only twenty-somethings that reaches are the ones who fell asleep with the TV on, and are now too hung over to crawl to the coffee table and grab the remote.

   Democrats, on the other hand, have all the avenues of pop culture under their control. They police them, shunning and canceling anything not in keeping with progressive orthodoxy, so as to stifle dissent through the threat of lost work.

   https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/opinion-republicans-have-a-serious-taylor-swift-problem/ar-BB1hxVxh?
8. Dennis Frank 8

   1 February 2024 at 8:55 pm

   Bomber's view of Chloe:

   she has stood out as an intellectual and philosophical giant for the Left. Her ability to articulate and promote progressive ideas and values is a once in a generation talent. She’s the Jacinda we all wished Jacinda could have been.

   Her power to persuade, her wit and her intelligence mark her out as the leader the NZ left have been begging for. And that could spell political doom for Labour. One of the take aways from the latest Roy Morgan Poll which saw the Right lose almost 7% was that barely any of that went to Labour.

   Left wing voters have turned to the Greens, Māori Party and TOP. ABL. Anyone But Labour. https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2024/02/01/chloe-swarbrick-as-co-leader-could-spell-political-doom-for-labour/

   His screwball fan club is all over the place as usual, but the news that Bibi threatened Jacinda on a phone call came from out of left field. A fantasy? If the RM is a precursor, the support for the right is already ebbing and next poll will illuminate the trend.
9. Muttonbird 9

   1 February 2024 at 10:25 pm

   This is disgraceful. In-zone family tries to enrol child at a state school but is told no because they don't have a fixed term tenancy.

   That is clearly not the rules and the school has been savaged by the ministry of education and now The Herald:

   Flat Bush school refuses to enrol child without fixed tenancy agreement before Ministry of Education intervenes

   https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/ministry-of-education-intervention-needed-after-school-refuses-to-enrol-child-because-family-didnt-have-fixed-tenancy-agreement-of-at-least-a-year/3XTNBV4AGBGNTMR2L5KO6H4AMI/

   This is just another example of discriminatory action against renting families and to be honest the country should be ashamed.

   Watch for much, much more of this type of behaviour under ACT’s profit seeking education sector model.
10. Muttonbird 10

    1 February 2024 at 10:40 pm

    I did not know this. Dairy farms created from draining wetlands release historically bound carbon from the soil. Pakeha settler colonists raising wetlands has destroyed an important natural carbon sink:

    A surprisingly high share of New Zealand's carbon dioxide emissions comes from a tiny proportion of soil – peat bogs that have been drained and are mainly used for dairying in Waikato, Southland, Northland and elsewhere.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/508011/tiny-portion-of-new-zealand-soil-making-twice-the-carbon-dioxide-previously-totalled
    • SPC 10.1

      2 February 2024 at 12:27 am

      It's an issue for the EU – Denmark, Netherlands and Eire.

      https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/eu-dairy-farms-on-peat-soil-may-face-serious-challenges-rabobank/

      https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/repeat-project-200-year-old-maps-helping-to-direct-our-climate-change-path/

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