There are more and more signs a crash is coming.
And China’s problems may be at the heart of it.
Anyone wonder why a former grip has been taken of the leadership as the country slides to becoming a one man dictatorship.
Mist people cannot see the iceberg.
The boat is steaming full steam ahead.
And there are not enough lifeboats.
We learn from history that we do not learn from history.
“China’s Coming Financial Meltdown
Anbang Insurance Group is one of China’s largest and most aggressive financial institutions. It is known for its huge customer base, high leverage, and fast-paced deal making.
At least it was until the Friday before last.
That’s when Anbang was taken over by the Communist Chinese government. You can call that takeover, “a bailout with Chinese characteristics.”
It seems there is a bit to the story of the alleged sexual assaults at the young labour camp.
Jacinda hasn’t done her investigation as yet – but Andrew Kirton who has known about this for some time has confirmed that there was “highly inappropriate behaviour” and that he was disappointed that “an incident like this happened”.
Why hasnt this been passed to the police? (Andrew Kirton – would not confirm that it had been).
“The Labour Party is extremely disappointed that young people attending the Young Labour camp were exposed to highly inappropriate behaviour by an individual who was also at the event.
Young Labour has apologised to the young people involved.
We are extremely disappointed that an incident like this happened at a Labour event and we are working to make sure those involved receive any support they need. We are deeply sorry for the distress that’s been caused. It shouldn’t have happened.”
(more at link..)
Its fantastic that they are owning up and apologising – but really? is a “sorry” enough for a sexual assault on multiple 16yo kids?
So you are all for protecting the abusers by allowing this type of behaviour to lie in the shadows and be covered up? Shame on you for trying to shut down the conversation by framing any effort to be critical of the process political.
It’s behaviour like that that allowed saville to flourish at the bbc.
[You are right on the edge. Nothing Ed has said deserves this sort of spin. Wind it back – MS]
Kirton just said on Checkpoint just now they were following a victim led process. The victim needed to be comfortable with it being reported to the police before that step is taken.
Now this is a hard one – and Im trying to be very careful in my reply as not to upset or anger anyone on here – its a serious question.
If you are aware of multiple sexual assaults should a person not have the responsibility to report that to the police (and then the victim/s) could have the opportunity to press charges or not?
If say someone was aware of the roastbusters – and said to the victims ‘you want to go to the police?’ – and then just did nothing if they didn’t?
Could an organisation not put pressure on a young person NOT to go to the police because (whatever)??? and if they do so – is this not enabling the attacker to carry on with the behaviour. (not saying that this is the case – but in general)
Upshot – I really think that it should be with the police – not the party and the police and the victims should decide what to do.
Well, I’ll wait and see how things pan out. It’s possible the victims have been provided with support by the Labour party, and that they are working towards them being comfortable with notifying police.
Police told Checkpoint that would encourage anyone with info who wishes to discuss it with them to go to them.
But, I don’t have a great deal of faith in the police given how they handled allegations from RoastBuster survivors.
I’ve had the misfortune of working in a place where an employee alleged (to many although not the perpetrator) sexual harassment from the boss. Inquiries were made from their psychiatrist and the police.
Result: nothing happens without complainant pushing charges (they didn’t).
I’m not sure the same applies here but it may very well. I understand the Labour Party would stand behind the alleged victims if they chose to push charges which would be fitting IMO.
Upshot – I really think that it should be with the police – not the party and the police and the victims should decide what to do.
Of course, it should, the whole thing pongs of a coverup, seriously these sexual assaults happened over a month ago and the police hadn’t been informed.
“For their parents not to know there must have been pressure applied to these young people to not say anything.”
That’s an assumptive stretch, BM. Do better.
Many people when sexually assaulted don’t want to tell anybody. A lot of that is due to how we treat victims often going on victim bashing sprees through the MSM instead listening and acting appropriately.
“If say someone was aware of the roastbusters – and said to the victims ‘you want to go to the police?’ – and then just did nothing if they didn’t?”
The victims there did go to the police, and no charges were laid. So that provides context for whether there is a obligation to leap-frog over the victims and go to the police without their input. The trial itself can be a trigger for assault victims, so the decision should primarily be theirs.
I would say, that the first instance should be of supporting the complainants – which includes encouraging police contact if appropriate – is a longer process than finding out and immediately making decisions. There has to be some time given to those assaulted to ensure that a police investigation won’t further add to their emotional burden, at that particular time.
Crawl back under the rock you came from [Edit. Best not to go there Adam – MS] (bm) . How about we let the victims make decisions before we start making accusations.
But that all you do make assumptions and abuse people BM.
The political mistakes and BS will be sorted out. Give the people involved some room before you make judgements.
Fuck off, you disgusting, sexual assault enabling old prick.
[3 month ban. I’ve been watching your trolling since the election, and you appear to bring little to the site now. What is not ok is starting a flame war in a topic of this nature where many people are vulnerable. Throwing accusations around, using sexual assault to Labour-bash, it’s all the same kind of nasty, macho bullshit that makes it really hard to have meaningful conversations about rape culture on TS. – weka]
You have made nothing but allegations without substance. You don’t want solutions, your just trying to score points.
If you want solutions, then let the right people do there jobs and help the people who needs help.
As for accusations. I’d like an apology becasue nothing I’ve said has enabled anyone except those who want to get to the truth without political hacks trying to point score.
Fuck off, you’re saying the labour party are the right people to handle and oversee these sexual assaults?
The same Labour party which was running the camps where these sexual assaults happened?
Shame on you Adam, the only thing you’re interested in here is making sure the Labour party doesn’t get splattered by the fall out of what went on at these camps, no concern of the actual victims.
I’ve never said labour party anything, now your just making shit up. Or as we in the trade call it, your lying to score points.
I’ve said let the right people do their job. The right people would be social workers and counselors train for these events.
I don’t give a rats about the labour party – as you well know. Or are you just trying to score points again.
Your the lowest form of low life BM one who will lie to cover their tracks.
As it stands, we don’t know if it is a Sexual Assault as there have been no charges. All we know is a drink male acted like a complete tosser.
So kindly shut up, let the right people do there jobs so we can know the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I know a bit much asking a right wing nutjob to be patient so truth can come out.
Because in the real world people, victims take time to come forward. They don’t work to political hack’s wannabe agendas.
*covering it up IF that is so, Mr. Kirton has made a grievous error of judgment. However James, are you aware that 16 year olds do not have to involve their parents, and no one can over ride that right. Only the Police if some one complains to them.
Now, you are inferring drink was supplied by the organisers. IF that is so, another grievous error.
But, worse, Jacinda Ardern was blidsided by this by journalist, because she had no knowledge of it. That was another grievous error.
Personally I think he may lose his position.
Jacinda was rightly angry. She won’t want it ‘covered up”
There are definitely things here that Labour need to be held account for (without looking too deeply, not dealing with the assaults at the time or giving the victims adequate support, the lack of supervision at the social event, the amount of alcohol involved).
You keep asking about the police, so it’s time for you to educate yourself about why the victims of sexual assault often don’t go to the police. You started this thread reasonably well, but it’s not going to be ok to turn this into an opportunity to Labour-bash nor to sensationalise the situation.
My suggestion in general to the men here who want to have a shit fight about this, is to sit down and shut up, and start listening to what women are saying. Women generally understand what the issues are and how to talk about them without making the conversations unsafe or into flamewars.
again – Im trying to be careful here with my reply – and again being very genuine and not basing or anything …
“You keep asking about the police, so it’s time for you to educate yourself about why the victims of sexual assault often don’t go to the police.”
In this instance – Labour knew that assaults had happened (according to AK). It wasn’t just against one person, but several.
which takes me back to my original post:
“If you are aware of multiple sexual assaults should a person not have the responsibility to report that to the police (and then the victim/s) could have the opportunity to press charges or not?”
And given that the party would have an agenda for this NOT to move forward ?
“Could an organisation not put pressure on a young person NOT to go to the police because (whatever)??? and if they do so – is this not enabling the attacker to carry on with the behaviour”. (AGAIN NOT SAYING THAT THIS IS THE CASE).
Upshot – I really think that it should be with the police – not the party and the police and the victims should decide what to do.
WEKA – given the nature of the topic – I want to be clear that this is a genuine question – not playing a silly game.
I don’t actually care what your reckons are James, because you seem to think that your opinion is the important thing here. I don’t know enough about the situation to make a judgement call on whether the police should have been involved or not. Mostly I would want to hear what the victims have to say about that. As I said, imo you need to educate yourself about rape culture and what going to the police means. Either you don’t, and are expressing opinion from a place of ignorance, or you do and you think your opinion should take precedence over the safety of the people assaulted.
As I also said, Labour have not handled this well on a number of fronts. What they do next is going to be important.
“AGAIN NOT SAYING THAT THIS IS THE CASE”
Then why bring it up? At this stage we don’t know what happened. People will speculate, but there are still considered ways to think about this and then there are inflammatory ways.
If the victims were age ten, I’d right with an automatic parent and police referral.
At sixteen they can probably make their own decisions, if they are treated with repect and will be clearly supported in any decision they made. And as long as everything is documented, there’s no rush to force them into any course of action.
The lack of supervision at the event and the alcohol also need to be actively addressed.
‘James’, like you I’m a positive person in ‘real life’, but here the rwnj commentariat (youself, Tanz, BM, Alwyn, chris73, funstigator, indiana, timeforacupoftea, solkta, Stunned mullet, Puckish Rogue, Alan, Tuppence Shrewsbury, Mikes, Antoine, fisiani (a deleted persona that existed only to adulate Honest John Key), et al. [apologies if I’ve got someone wrong]) bring out the worst in me.
Your morals, and those of other rwnjs, strike me as out-of-whack, with ethical behaviour being ‘for others only’. I sometimes fantasise that most of the many rwnjs infesting The Standard (and there must be dozens of them) are actually one person, seated in a windowless room with a computer and an electronic whiteboard that lists various personas’ characteristics, backstories and where they stand on the rwnj spectrum.
‘Your’ incessant ‘twitting’ is particularly disruptive – today alone you’ve ‘contributed’ 20 ‘twits’; are you paid ‘by the twit’, rather than ‘per word’?
On a serious note, would you (’James’) care to share (briefly) the story of how someone who “left school at 15” became a successful “IT guy”, and more. C’mon, James, let your humble desire to help others inspire our struggling teens –
Genuine apologies to ‘mikes’, ‘solkta’ and anyone else I’ve mis-represented in such ‘black and white’ terms – should have taken the time to do more research.
If I could I would ‘de-list’ mikes/solkta, and add ‘infused’ and (the already gone) ‘Son of Don’.
Also, shouldn’t have let ‘James‘ get under my skin, but he was on the verge of wetting himself over the ‘party political’ dimensions of the assaults, while displaying very little concern (genuine or otherwise) for the victims. Plus the whole ‘Tanz vs Anne vs James’ tit-for-tat nonsense.
I’m going to button it for now – thanks (that’s genuine too) to Weka and other Standard authors/mods.
EDIT: OK my original text just disappeared. This is one disabled person talking about their submission to the euthanasia disabled bill before parliament recently.
‘If you are aware of multiple sexual assaults should a person not have the responsibility to report that to the police (and then the victim/s) could have the opportunity to press charges or not?’
Of course – and do you have any reason to think that has not been the case in this instance?
In fact, I would expect, especially in view of the youthfulness of the victims, to be supportive of whatever action they wish to take.
However, in view of the obnoxious attitude you frequently display on this site, I find it very difficult to believe that your concern, in this case, is genuine
“‘If you are aware of multiple sexual assaults should a person not have the responsibility to report that to the police (and then the victim/s) could have the opportunity to press charges or not?’
Of course – and do you have any reason to think that has not been the case in this instance?”
Yes – I do because labour were aware of it and DIDNT report it to the police!
“Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has banned all Government departments from using a firm of private investigators for spying.”
It follows a Newshub investigation that found state-owned insurers Southern Response got the investigators from Thompson and Clark to snoop on victims of the Christchurch earthquake at the taxpayers’ expense.
Ms Ardern says this was “totally inappropriate” and other Government departments should not be using them.”
Now let’s see the government adopt the same approach to Uber, Amazon, AMI, the Australian banks.
Boot them all out.
There’s a difference between using public money to hire private investigators to suppress lawful dissent and the data collection that makes some large tech corporations questionable. Amazon et al don’t have the same duties in respect of the public as a public service.
I imagine that she’d be happy with the process in principle (police do have to investigate groups sometimes) but might consider it an example of particularly poor judgement.
There was an article the other day about why some people confuse the NT sound with the ND sound…I think the former is more common and so our brain assumes that it’s likely to be correct.
There is also no “d” in most (all?) Pacific languages – which came up last week as an explanation as to why Jacinda’s name was spelt with a “t” on banners, media reports etc in some countries visited by the Parliamentary Mission to Samoa, Niue,, Tonga and the Cook Islands last week.
Establish what happened, and support the victims. Yes, there are other concerns (for example, James, with barely concealed glee, considers the story ‘interesting’), but the victims wishes are paramount.
More signs of how climate change is affecting our country.
The Herald calls it weird weather.
Rachel Stewart asks if we’re worried yet.
Catastrophic climate change is here.
“Our barren Alps: Aerial survey shows snow loss ‘incredibly extreme’
After a summer in which which January temperatures were nearly 3C warmer than average, it was expected the glaciers would lose mass and the snowlines would rise. But the results were far more dramatic than any past survey, and showed some of the Alps had barely any fresh snow at all.”
Oh dear, a scandal has broken. Surprise surprise. National would never stoop this low, and they would not hide it from the public and police. Always different when the left do it.
[if you use this as an excuse to bash Labour or the left, you can expect to be banned. Only warning – weka]
eh, what planet are you on ? the chief of defense out rite lied on national tv and now caught out, the innocents in this case lost their lives, yes always different when nats do it.
Well I hope the kids involved get all the support and help they need first and foremost and the guy that did this gets punished accordingly and his name published with victims names and relationship to the crim, if any, suppressed
Apart from anything else, this camp “scandal” business highlights some really, really bad political management from Labour. What on earth was Andrew Kirton thinking when he chose not to inform the PM? What a moron, any half-wit should have been able to work out it isn’t a good look for the PM to hear about such things through the news media.
On the same day you have Jenny Salesa’s office giving a different line to the media on her travel expenses to the PM’s comments at Jacinda news conference.
Both these stories are grist for the mill for our lazy, underfunded, gotcha! MSM.
The only blessing is neither Clare Curran or Poto Williams said something idiotic on the same day.
Labour needs to tighten the messaging discipline big time.
I sense a feeling that “Jacinda should have been told” , I disagree , IMHO it is correct to keep a firewall between the political and organisational sections of the party, Its actually a sign that Kirton might have some smarts.
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TL;DR: As of 7:00 am on Monday, July 22, the top six announcements, speeches, reports and research around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day are:US President Joe Biden announced via X this morning he would not stand for a second term.Multinational professional services firm ...
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This weekend, a friend pointed out someone who said they’d like to read my posts, but didn’t want to pay. And my first reaction was sympathy.I’ve already told folks that if they can’t comfortably subscribe, and would like to read, I’d be happy to offer free subscriptions. I don’t want ...
National: The Party of ‘Law and Order’ IntroductionThis weekend, the Government formally kicked off one of their flagship policy programs: a military style boot camp that New Zealand has experimented with over the past 50 years. Cartoon credit: Guy BodyIt’s very popular with the National Party’s Law and Orderimage, ...
Day one of the solo leg of my long journey home begins with my favourite sound: footfalls in an empty street. 5.00 am and it’s already light and already too warm, almost.If I can make the train that leaves Budapest later this hour I could be in Belgrade by nightfall; ...
Do you remember Y2K, the threat that hung over humanity in the closing days of the twentieth century? Horror scenarios of planes falling from the sky, electronic payments failing and ATMs refusing to dispense cash. As for your VCR following instructions and recording your favourite show - forget about it.All ...
Climate Change Minister Simon Watts being questioned by The Kākā’s Bernard Hickey.TL;DR: My top six things to note around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the week to July 20 were:1. A strategy that fails Zero Carbon Act & Paris targetsThe National-ACT-NZ First Coalition Government finally unveiled ...
Summary:As New Zealand loses at least 12 leaders in the public service space of health, climate, and pharmaceuticals, this month alone, directly in response to the Government’s policies and budget choices, what lies ahead may be darker than it appears. Tui examines some of those departures and draws a long ...
The Minister of Housing’s ambition is to reduce markedly the ratio of house prices to household incomes. If his strategy works it would transform the housing market, dramatically changing the prospects of housing as an investment.Leaving aside the Minister’s metaphor of ‘flooding the market’ I do not see how the ...
As previously noted, my historical fantasy piece, set in the fifth-century Mediterranean, was accepted for a Pirate Horror anthology, only for the anthology to later fall through. But in a good bit of news, it turned out that the story could indeed be re-marketed as sword and sorcery. As of ...
An employee of tobacco company Philip Morris International demonstrates a heated tobacco device. Photo: Getty ImagesTL;DR: The top six things I’ve noted around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy on Friday, July 19 are:At a time when the Coalition Government is cutting spending on health, infrastructure, education, housing ...
TL;DR: My pick of the top six links elsewhere around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day or so to 8:30 am on Friday, July 19 are:Scoop: NZ First Minister Casey Costello orders 50% cut to excise tax on heated tobacco products. The minister has ...
Kia ora, it’s time for another Friday roundup, in which we pull together some of the links and stories that caught our eye this week. Feel free to add more in the comments! Our header image this week shows a foggy day in Auckland town, captured by Patrick Reynolds. ...
TL;DR : Here’s the top six items climate news for Aotearoa this week, as selected by Bernard Hickey and The Kākā’s climate correspondent Cathrine Dyer. A discussion recorded yesterday is in the video above and the audio of that sent onto the podcast feed.The Government released its draft Emissions Reduction ...
Save some money, get rich and old, bring it back to Tobacco Road.Bring that dynamite and a crane, blow it up, start all over again.Roll up. Roll up. Or tailor made, if you prefer...Whether you’re selling ciggies, digging for gold, catching dolphins in your nets, or encouraging folks to flutter ...
Waiting In The Wings:For truly, if Trump is America’s un-assassinated Caesar, then J.D. Vance is America’s Octavian, the Republic’s youthful undertaker – and its first Emperor.DONALD TRUMP’S SELECTION of James D. Vance as his running-mate bodes ill for the American republic. A fervent supporter of Viktor Orban, the “illiberal” prime ...
TL;DR: As of 6:00 am on Friday, July 19, the top six announcements, speeches, reports and research around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day are:The PSAannounced the Employment Relations Authority (ERA) had ruled in the PSA’s favour in its case against the Ministry ...
TL;DR: The podcast above of the weekly ‘hoon’ webinar for paying subscribers last night features co-hosts and talking with:The Kākā’s climate correspondent talking about the National-ACT-NZ First Government’s release of its first Emissions Reduction Plan;University of Otago Foreign Relations Professor and special guest Dr Karin von ...
Open access notablesImproving global temperature datasets to better account for non-uniform warming, Calvert, Quarterly Journal of the Royal Meteorological Society:To better account for spatial non-uniform trends in warming, a new GITD [global instrumental temperature dataset] was created that used maximum likelihood estimation (MLE) to combine the land surface ...
A late change to charter school legislation will cheat educators out of fair pay and negotiating power proving charter schools are just a vehicle to make profit out of our education system. ...
In 2004 te iwi Māori rallied against the Crown’s attempt to confiscate our coastlines and moana with the Foreshore and Seabed Act. This led to the largest hīkoi of a generation and the birth of Te Pāti Māori. 20 years later, history is repeating itself. Today the government has announced ...
It has been five and a half years since the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in Care was established to investigate the abuse of children, young people, and vulnerable adults within state and faith-based institutions. Yesterday, the final report - Whanaketia through pain and trauma, from darkness to light ...
The Green Party is calling on the Government to take action off the back of the International Court of Justice ruling on Israel’s illegal occupation of Palestine. ...
On Friday the International Court of Justice reaffirmed what Palestinian’s have been telling us for decades: that the occupation and colonisation of Palestinian lands by Israel is illegal and must end immediately. They also called for reparations for Palestinian’s who have lived under Israeli occupation since it began in 1967. ...
Labour calls on the Government to act after the International Court of Justice (ICJ) ruled that Israel’s occupation of Palestinian Territories is illegal. ...
The 53.7 percent rise in benefit sanctions over the last year is more proof of this Government’s disdain for our communities most in need of support. ...
Aotearoa could be a country where every child grows up feeling safe, loved and with a sense of belonging in their whānau and community. But for some of our children, this is far from reality. Instead, they are trapped in a maze of intergenerational harm that they can’t escape on ...
Te Pāti Māori are calling for David Seymour to resign as Associate Health Minister in response to his call for Pharmac to ignore the Treaty of Waitangi. “This announcement is just another example of the government’s anti-Tiriti, anti-Māori agenda.” Said Co-leader and spokesperson for health, Debbie Ngarewa-Packer. “Seymour thinks it ...
The soaring price of renting is driving the rise of inflation in this country - with latest figures from Stats NZ showing rents are up 4.8 per cent on average while annual inflation is at 3.3 per cent. ...
National’s Emissions Reduction Plan will take New Zealand further from the economy we need to ensure the next generation has a stable climate and secure livelihoods. ...
Following consultation with named parties and thorough consideration of privacy interests, the Green Party is in a position to release the Executive Summary of the final report from the independent investigation into Darleen Tana. ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon should be asking serious questions of his Minister for Resources Shane Jones now it’s been revealed he misled the public about a dinner with mining companies that he didn’t declare and said wasn’t pre-arranged. ...
Te Pāti Māori have submitted to the Justice Select Committee against the Sentencing (Reinstating Three Strikes) Amendment Bill. The bill will further entrench racism in our justice system and fails to focus on rehabilitation. “Reinstating Three Strikes will empower a systematically racist system and exacerbate the overrepresentation of Māori in ...
The Transport and Infrastructure Committee is set to make a determination on the Residential Tenancies Amendment (RTA) Bill in the coming weeks. “This legislation will give landlords the power to kick our whānau out onto the street for no reason” said Housing spokesperson, Mariameno Kapa-Kingi. “Their solution to the housing ...
“National’s campaign was about tackling crime and the best they can do is a two-year long Ministerial Advisory Group,” Labour justice spokesperson Duncan Webb said. ...
“There are more examples of charter schools failing their students than there are success stories. The coalition Government is driving to dismantle our public school system and instead promote a privatised, competitive structure that puts profits before kids,” Jan Tinetti said. ...
“This government is choosing to deliberately mislead and withhold information, keeping our people in the dark about this government’s agenda and the future of our mokopuna,” said co-leader and spokesperson for Health, Debbie Ngarewa-Packer. The call comes after the demand from the Chief Ombudsman that Associate Minister of Health, Casey ...
“Today’s climate announcement by Simon Watts makes clear the National Government is simply paying lip service to meeting its climate change targets,” Megan Woods said. ...
National is choosing to make life harder for workers by taking away the rights our communities have fought hard for. Here's how they’re taking workers backwards. ...
Australia, Canada and New Zealand today issued the following statement on the need for an urgent ceasefire in Gaza and the risk of expanded conflict between Hizballah and Israel. The situation in Gaza is catastrophic. The human suffering is unacceptable. It cannot continue. We remain unequivocal in our condemnation of ...
Attorney-General Judith Collins today reminded all State and faith-based institutions of their legal obligation to preserve records relevant to the safety and wellbeing of those in its care. “The Abuse in Care Inquiry’s report has found cases where records of the most vulnerable people in State and faith‑based institutions were ...
Minister of Internal Affairs Brooke van Velden says the Government’s online safety website for children and young people has reached one million page views. “It is great to see so many young people and their families accessing the site Keep It Real Online to learn how to stay safe online, and manage ...
Tēnā tātou katoa, Ngā mihi te rangi, ngā mihi te whenua, ngā mihi ki a koutou, kia ora mai koutou. Thank you for the opportunity to be here and the invitation to speak at this 50th anniversary conference. I acknowledge all those who have gone before us and paved the ...
New Zealand’s payroll providers have successfully prepared to ensure 3.5 million individuals will, from Wednesday next week, be able to keep more of what they earn each pay, says Finance Minister Nicola Willis and Revenue Minister Simon Watts. “The Government's tax policy changes are legally effective from Wednesday. Delivering this tax ...
An experimental vineyard which will help futureproof the wine sector has been opened in Blenheim by Associate Regional Development Minister Mark Patterson. The covered vineyard, based at the New Zealand Wine Centre – Te Pokapū Wāina o Aotearoa, enables controlled environmental conditions. “The research that will be produced at the Experimental ...
The Coalition Government has confirmed the indicative regional breakdown of North Island Weather Event (NIWE) funding for state highway recovery projects funded through Budget 2024, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “Regions in the North Island suffered extensive and devastating damage from Cyclone Gabrielle and the 2023 Auckland Anniversary Floods, and ...
Indonesia’s Foreign Minister, Retno Marsudi, will visit New Zealand next week, Foreign Minister Winston Peters has announced. “Indonesia is important to New Zealand’s security and economic interests and is our closest South East Asian neighbour,” says Mr Peters, who is currently in Laos to engage with South East Asian partners. ...
He aha te kai a te rangatira? He kōrero, he kōrero, he kōrero. The government has reaffirmed its commitment to supporting the aspirations of Ngāti Maniapoto, Minister for Māori Development Tama Potaka says. “My thanks to Te Nehenehenui Trust – Ngāti Maniapoto for bringing their important kōrero to a ministerial ...
Transport Minister Simeon Brown has thanked outgoing Chair of the Civil Aviation Authority, Janice Fredric, for her service to the board.“I have received Ms Fredric’s resignation from the role of Chair of the Civil Aviation Authority,” Mr Brown says.“On behalf of the Government, I want to thank Ms Fredric for ...
The Government is proposing legislation to overturn a Court of Appeal decision and amend the Marine and Coastal Area Act in order to restore Parliament’s test for Customary Marine Title, Treaty Negotiations Minister Paul Goldsmith says. “Section 58 required an applicant group to prove they have exclusively used and occupied ...
Regulation Minister David Seymour says that opposition parties have united in bad faith, opposing what they claim are ‘dangerous changes’ to the Early Childhood Education sector, despite no changes even being proposed yet. “Issues with affordability and availability of early childhood education, and the complexity of its regulation, has led ...
After receiving more than 740 submissions in the first 20 days, Regulation Minister David Seymour is asking the Ministry for Regulation to extend engagement on the early childhood education regulation review by an extra two weeks. “The level of interest has been very high, and from the conversations I’ve been ...
The Coalition Government is investing $802.9 million into the Wairarapa and Manawatū rail lines as part of a funding agreement with the NZ Transport Agency (NZTA), KiwiRail, and the Greater Wellington and Horizons Regional Councils to deliver more reliable services for commuters in the lower North Island, Transport Minister Simeon ...
Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced his intention to appoint a Crown Manager to both Hawke’s Bay Regional and Wairoa District Councils to speed up the delivery of flood protection work in Wairoa."Recent severe weather events in Wairoa this year, combined with damage from Cyclone Gabrielle in 2023 have ...
Mr Speaker, this is a day that many New Zealanders who were abused in State care never thought would come. It’s the day that this Parliament accepts, with deep sorrow and regret, the Report of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in Care. At the heart of this report are the ...
For the first time, the Government is formally acknowledging some children and young people at Lake Alice Psychiatric Hospital experienced torture. The final report of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in State and Faith-based Care “Whanaketia – through pain and trauma, from darkness to light,” was tabled in Parliament ...
The Government has acknowledged the nearly 2,400 courageous survivors who shared their experiences during the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Historical Abuse in State and Faith-Based Care. The final report from the largest and most complex public inquiry ever held in New Zealand, the Royal Commission Inquiry “Whanaketia – through ...
With a week to go before hard-working New Zealanders see personal income tax relief for the first time in fourteen years, 513,000 people have used the Budget tax calculator to see how much they will benefit, says Finance Minister Nicola Willis. “Tax relief is long overdue. From next Wednesday, personal income ...
Workplace Relations and Safety Minister Brooke van Velden says a bill that has passed its first reading will improve parental leave settings and give non-biological parents more flexibility as primary carer for their child. The Regulatory Systems Amendment Bill (No3), passed its first reading this morning. “It includes a change ...
Two Bills designed to improve regulation and make it easier to do business have passed their first reading in Parliament, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. The Regulatory Systems (Economic Development) Amendment Bill and Regulatory Systems (Immigration and Workforce) Amendment Bill make key changes to legislation administered by the Ministry ...
New legislation paves the way for greater competition in sectors such as banking and electricity, Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Andrew Bayly says. “Competitive markets boost productivity, create employment opportunities and lift living standards. To support competition, we need good quality regulation but, unfortunately, a recent OECD report ranked New ...
Minister of Internal Affairs Brooke van Velden says lotteries for charitable purposes, such as those run by the Heart Foundation, Coastguard NZ, and local hospices, will soon be allowed to operate online permanently. “Under current laws, these fundraising lotteries are only allowed to operate online until October 2024, after which ...
The Coalition Government is accelerating work on the new four-lane expressway between Auckland and Whangārei as part of its Roads of National Significance programme, with an accelerated delivery model to deliver this project faster and more efficiently, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “For too long, the lack of resilient transport connections ...
Sir Don McKinnon will travel to Viet Nam this week as a Special Envoy of the Government, Foreign Minister Winston Peters has announced. “It is important that the Government give due recognition to the significant contributions that General Secretary Nguyen Phu Trong made to New Zealand-Viet Nam relations,” Mr ...
Minister of Internal Affairs Brooke van Velden says newly appointed Commissioner, Grant Illingworth KC, will help deliver the report for the first phase of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into COVID-19 Lessons, due on 28 November 2024. “I am pleased to announce that Mr Illingworth will commence his appointment as ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters travels to Laos this week to participate in a series of Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN)-led Ministerial meetings in Vientiane. “ASEAN plays an important role in supporting a peaceful, stable and prosperous Indo-Pacific,” Mr Peters says. “This will be our third visit to ...
Construction of a new mental health facility at Te Nikau Grey Hospital in Greymouth is today one step closer, Mental Health Minister Matt Doocey says. “This $27 million facility shows this Government is delivering on its promise to boost mental health care and improve front line services,” Mr Doocey says. ...
New Zealand is committing nearly $50 million to a package supporting sustainable Pacific fisheries development over the next four years, Foreign Minister Winston Peters and Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones announced today. “This support consisting of a range of initiatives demonstrates New Zealand’s commitment to assisting our Pacific partners ...
Associate Education Minister David Seymour says proposed changes to the Education and Training Amendment Bill will ensure charter schools have more flexibility to negotiate employment agreements and are equipped with the right teaching resources. “Cabinet has agreed to progress an amendment which means unions will not be able to initiate ...
In response to serious concerns around oversight, overspend and a significant deterioration in financial outlook, the Board of Health New Zealand will be replaced with a Commissioner, Health Minister Dr Shane Reti announced today. “The previous government’s botched health reforms have created significant financial challenges at Health NZ that, without ...
Minister for Space and Science, Innovation and Technology Judith Collins will travel to Adelaide tomorrow for space and science engagements, including speaking at the Australian Space Forum. While there she will also have meetings and visits with a focus on space, biotechnology and innovation. “New Zealand has a thriving space ...
Climate Change Minister Simon Watts will travel to China on Saturday to attend the Ministerial on Climate Action meeting held in Wuhan. “Attending the Ministerial on Climate Action is an opportunity to advocate for New Zealand climate priorities and engage with our key partners on climate action,” Mr Watts says. ...
Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones is travelling to the Solomon Islands tomorrow for meetings with his counterparts from around the Pacific supporting collective management of the region’s fisheries. The 23rd Pacific Islands Forum Fisheries Committee and the 5th Regional Fisheries Ministers’ Meeting in Honiara from 23 to 26 July ...
The Government today launched the Military Style Academy Pilot at Te Au rere a te Tonga Youth Justice residence in Palmerston North, an important part of the Government’s plan to crackdown on youth crime and getting youth offenders back on track, Minister for Children, Karen Chhour said today. “On the ...
The Government has welcomed news the NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) has begun work to replace nine priority bridges across the country to ensure our state highway network remains resilient, reliable, and efficient for road users, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says.“Increasing productivity and economic growth is a key priority for the ...
Acting Prime Minister David Seymour has been in contact throughout the evening with senior officials who have coordinated a whole of government response to the global IT outage and can provide an update. The Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet has designated the National Emergency Management Agency as the ...
New Zealand and Japan will continue to step up their shared engagement with the Pacific, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says. “New Zealand and Japan have a strong, shared interest in a free, open and stable Pacific Islands region,” Mr Peters says. “We are pleased to be finding more ways ...
New developments in the heart of North Island forestry country will reinvigorate their communities and boost economic development, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones visited Kaingaroa and Kawerau in Bay of Plenty today to open a landmark community centre in the former and a new connecting road in ...
President Adeang, fellow Ministers, honourable Diet Member Horii, Ambassadors, distinguished guests. Minasama, konnichiwa, and good afternoon, everyone. Distinguished guests, it’s a pleasure to be here with you today to talk about New Zealand’s foreign policy reset, the reasons for it, the values that underpin it, and how it ...
Last summer when Matairangi burned, Ginny and Tom stood at the window of their lounge, watching kākā shoot skyward from the burning trees. From the distance, they looked to Ginny like pages torn from books and thrown into a bonfire. It was Tom, voice tight, who told her it was ...
Opinion: The Canadian short story writer Alice Munro – winner of the Nobel Prize in Literature in 2013 – died in May at the age of 92. Her work was about “the damage people inflict on one another in the name of love”, Deborah Treisman wrote in the New Yorker. ...
This month marks two years since the most powerful telescope ever built sent its first pictures back to earth. From its lofty vantage point, beyond the moon in orbit around the sun, the James Webb Space Telescope was tuned to observe the first stars and galaxies being born soon after ...
Comment: After Climate Change Minister Simon Watts’ preview several weeks ago, I had some optimism about the Government’s emissions reduction plan. Now I’ve read the discussion document, that hope has been dashed. How can the Government propose a plan that wants to take New Zealand taxpayers’ hard-earned money, and spend ...
Christopher Luxon: hurdles The little man from National jumps hurdles in his sleep. He’s quite good at it in his dreams and even though the reality doesn’t quite match up you have to give him credit for getting up every morning and crashing into the very first hurdle of the ...
Comment: It was a good two hours into the conversation when Tyrone Marks raised the most basic of questions when I first spoke to him in 2017. “They didn’t explain the things they did to me. They never told me why. And they still haven’t. There’s no explanation for it. ...
Madeleine Chapman rounds out Death Week on The Spinoff with a final recommendation. You can read all of our Death Week coverage here. Nothing forces you to reflect on your life and relationships quite like proximity to death. For those whose nearest and dearest have died, there are reasonably obvious ...
Whitney Greene takes us through her life in television, including the TV character she’d like to plan a funeral for and her cow lung catastrophe on The Traitors NZ. “If the phone rings, I have to answer it,” Whitney Greene from The Traitors NZ warns as we begin our My ...
Maddie Ballard reviews the debut essay collection of Pōneke writer Flora Feltham.In ‘The Raw Material’, the longest essay in Flora Feltham’s dazzling debut collection, the author heads out for a run after hours of weaving and sees the world turn to textile. “Pounding along the Parade, I saw the ...
Andy Christiansen, one half of the experimental rock-pop duo TRiPS, shares the tunes inspiring the band’s perfect weekend and new release. “Good speakers, good food, good music, no distractions”: that’s all you need to enjoy the psychedelic stylings of TRiPS, a new band formed by Fly My Pretties’ Barnaby Weir ...
Celebrating our quadrennial opportunity to become experts in a bunch of sports we never normally watch.The games of the XXXIII Olympiad are upon us. Paris will host this year’s showcase of sporting and athletic prowess, which means some late-night and early-morning viewing for us in Aotearoa.But what sports ...
The photograph is striking and beautiful, but also disturbing – a reminder that my love for John was often entangled in shame.The Sunday Essay is made possible thanks to the support of Creative New Zealand.In the spring of 1980, in Dunedin, shortly before his death, someone took a photograph ...
Get to know Babushka, our latest Dog of the Month. This feature was offered as a reward during our What’s Eating Aotearoa PledgeMe campaign. Thank you to Babu’s humans, Jo and Isabel, for their support. Dog name: Babushka (Babu for short) Age: 2Breed: Border Collie X poodleIf rescued, ...
Pacific Media Watch A Lebanese photojournalist who was severely wounded during an Israeli air strike in south Lebanon carried the Olympic torch in Paris this week in honour of her peers who have been wounded and killed in the field — especially in Gaza and Lebanon. Christina Assi of Agence ...
The first report in a five-part web series focused on the 15th Triennial Conference of Pacific Women taking place in the Marshall Islands this week.SPECIAL REPORT:By Netani Rika in Majuro Women continue to fight for justice 70 years after the first nuclear tests by the United States caused ...
Christopher Luxon has joined with Australia and Canada's leaders in voicing support for US President Joe Biden's ceasefire deal between Israel and Hamas. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michelle Grattan, Professorial Fellow, University of Canberra The 2022 election brought the “teal wave” into parliament. The next election will test whether teals, who occupy what were Liberal seats, and other independents can maintain their momentum. Joining us on the Podcast ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Ian Musgrave, Senior lecturer in Pharmacology, University of Adelaide Pixavri/Shutterstock A major Federal Court class action has been dismissed this week after Justice Michael Lee ruled there was not enough evidence to prove the weedkiller Roundup causes cancer. Plaintiff Kelvin ...
In The Week in Politics: politicians have to decide what to do about child abuse, Health NZ is booked in for major surgery and Darleen Tana returns. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Clare Corbould, Associate Professor, Contemporary Histories Research Group, Deakin University Mainstream media are surprisingly muted at the prospect of the world’s most powerful nation being led for the first time by a woman – specifically a woman of colour, Vice President Kamala ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Rebecca Bennett, PhD Student, Associate Research Fellow, Deakin University Last week, a drone delivery company called Wing (owned by Google’s parent company, Alphabet) started operating in Melbourne. Some 250,000 residents in parts of the city’s eastern suburbs can now order food from ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Jonathan Foo, Lecturer, Physiotherapy, Monash University pikselstock/Shutterstock In the next 40 years in Australia, it’s predicted the number of Australians aged 65 and over will more than double, while the number of people aged 85 and over will more than triple. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Katrina Grant, Research Associate, Power Institute for Arts and Visual Culture, University of Sydney Jonas Åkerström’s 1790 work, Session of the Accademia dell’Arcadia on August 17 1788.Nationalmuseum/Cecilia Heisser Ever wondered whether you’d have a better chance at winning an Olympic gold ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Alexandra Jones, Program Lead, Food Governance, George Institute for Global Health wavebreakmedia/Shutterstock On Thursday, Australian and New Zealand food ministers at state, federal and national levels met to thrash out what’s next for health star ratings on packaged foods. Now, after ...
The Abuse in Care report found many Pacific survivors lost their connections to their culture and language, resulting in trauma that has been carried from generation to generation. ...
In the regulatory review, ECC intends to suggest that ERO focus on curriculum delivery reviews rather than the Ministry, because it’s not efficient or effective to have two agencies with radically different approaches climbing over each other. ...
Te Rūnanga Nui o Ngā Kura Kaupapa Māori invites the current government to work in partnership with them to develop a pathway forward, including the development of a parallel pathway and meaningful policy and strategy for Kura Kaupapa Māori ...
If you haven’t started watching yet, Tara Ward begs you to reconsider. This is an excerpt from our weekly pop culture newsletter Rec Room. Sign up here. In the world of New Zealand reality television, we have many gems in our crown. There’s the delicious second season of the Celebrity Treasure ...
A new poem by Fiona Kidman. The clothes of the dead I did not keep my mother’s furry red beret for long nor the stringy scarves that adorned the necks of my aunts, although I have kept tag ends of gold, the rings and trinkets they wore, the brooches no ...
The government’s announcement that it will re-open the foreshore and seabed controversy by changing the rules on recognising centuries-old Māori customary title for a third time goes against the rule of law and New Zealand values,” Mr Tipa says. ...
The only published and available best-selling indie book chart in New Zealand is the top 10 sales list recorded every week at Unity Books’ stores in High St, Auckland, and Willis St, Wellington.AUCKLAND1 Lioness by Emily Perkins (Bloomsbury, $25) Roarrrr! Perkins’ brilliant, award-winning, Marian-Keyes anointed, darkly funny, long ...
The 2004 Act vested ownership of the foreshore and seabed in the Crown, extinguishing any Māori claims to ownership and causing widespread outrage and protests among Māori communities. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Antje Deckert, Associate Professor (Criminology), Auckland University of Technology Getty Images Despite the connection between institutional harm and gang membership made clear in this week’s mammoth royal commission abuse-in care report, the government seems unlikely to soften its “get tough on ...
From Lewis Clareburt in the swimming to the start of the rowing – the first seven days of Paris 2024 promise to be big for New Zealand. There are few events that bring the country together quite like an Olympic Games. Nothing quite matches the excitement of getting up in ...
Groundbreaking local science just showed up in the most surprising of places: the season finale of The Kardashians. In the season five finale of The Kardashians last night, several members of the family gathered together in one of their signature empty, cream-coloured rooms to hear test results that had been ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Amin Saikal, Emeritus professor of Middle Eastern and Central Asian Studies, Australian National University The Middle East is on the brink of a possibly devastating regional war, with hostilities between Israel and Hezbollah reaching an extremely dangerous level. Washington has engaged in ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Laura Elizabeth Eades, Rheumatologist, Monash University Lupus is an inflammatory autoimmune illness, where the body’s immune system mistakenly attacks itself. Lupus can affect virtually any part of the body, although it most commonly affects the skin, joints and kidneys. The symptoms ...
A law firm that specialises in working with survivors of abuse in State care is disappointed that the Government fails to recognise that its boot camps can be directly compared to previous boot camps from the 1990s and 2000s. ...
Dying is a natural part of life, like updating your Wof or seeing your hairdresser, but without the word-of-mouth recs that help guarantee a good service. What if we changed that? Dying Reviews received by The Spinoff have had the names of organisations redacted while Hospice NZ collects further data. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Jonti Horner, Professor (Astrophysics), University of Southern Queensland Mike Lewinski/Flickr, CC BY On any clear night, if you gaze skywards long enough, chances are you’ll see a meteor streaking through the sky. Some nights, however, are better than others. At ...
Despite having no bars or other designated spaces for lesbians, Auckland boasts a small but mighty lesbian museum. So how did it get here? The past 18 months has brought increasing hostility towards the queer community across Aotearoa. Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull’s anti-trans rally in Tamaki Makaurau last March led to a ...
Poneke Antifascist Coalition has invited Wellingtonians to stand in solidarity with the Kanak people at 12pm today outside the French Embassy in Wellington. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Peter Layton, Visiting Fellow, Strategic Studies, Griffith University Drones are the signature technology of the Ukraine war. A few miniature aircraft designs were used in the war’s early days, but an incredible array of drones have now evolved. There are different types, ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Mark Slee, Associate Professor, Clinical Academic Neurologist, Flinders University Francisco Gonzelez/Unsplash Migraine is many things, but one thing it’s not is “just a headache”. “Migraine” comes from the Greek word “hemicrania”, referring to the common experience of migraine being predominantly ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Lee White, Senior Lecturer and Horizon Fellow, School of Social and Political Sciences, University of Sydney Australia was slow to introduce minimum building standards for energy efficiency. The Nationwide House Energy Rating Scheme (NatHERS) only came into force in 2003. Older homes ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Steven Sherwood, Professor of Atmospheric Sciences, Climate Change Research Centre, UNSW Sydney The past century of human-induced warming has increased rainfall variability over 75% of the Earth’s land area – particularly over Australia, Europe and eastern North America, new research shows. ...
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It seems there is a bit to the story of the alleged sexual assaults at the young labour camp.
Jacinda hasn’t done her investigation as yet – but Andrew Kirton who has known about this for some time has confirmed that there was “highly inappropriate behaviour” and that he was disappointed that “an incident like this happened”.
Why hasnt this been passed to the police? (Andrew Kirton – would not confirm that it had been).
Statement from the Labour Party’s General Secretary Andrew Kirton (http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/03/allegations-of-sexual-assaults-at-young-labour-camp.html)
“The Labour Party is extremely disappointed that young people attending the Young Labour camp were exposed to highly inappropriate behaviour by an individual who was also at the event.
Young Labour has apologised to the young people involved.
We are extremely disappointed that an incident like this happened at a Labour event and we are working to make sure those involved receive any support they need. We are deeply sorry for the distress that’s been caused. It shouldn’t have happened.”
(more at link..)
Its fantastic that they are owning up and apologising – but really? is a “sorry” enough for a sexual assault on multiple 16yo kids?
Ah, so despite your earlier comments,you are politicising this.
I really don’t understand how you avoid getting banned from this site.
Racism yesterday and now using alleged sexual abuse for political gain. You exploit human misery.
Words fail to convey my contempt.
So you are all for protecting the abusers by allowing this type of behaviour to lie in the shadows and be covered up? Shame on you for trying to shut down the conversation by framing any effort to be critical of the process political.
It’s behaviour like that that allowed saville to flourish at the bbc.
[You are right on the edge. Nothing Ed has said deserves this sort of spin. Wind it back – MS]
Read my 2 comment on Open Mike.
I said that the police should investigate and James agreed with me.
Read my comments you nasty troll.
I despise you for the smear you have made against me.
You should be banned for such a statement
I got 3 days for debating Syria.
Your comment about Saville deserves more.
All right.
I do disagree with ed bandying round ban talk because he disagrees with James base position
James has been banned plenty of times.
Everything’s political eddy.
Kirton just said on Checkpoint just now they were following a victim led process. The victim needed to be comfortable with it being reported to the police before that step is taken.
Now this is a hard one – and Im trying to be very careful in my reply as not to upset or anger anyone on here – its a serious question.
If you are aware of multiple sexual assaults should a person not have the responsibility to report that to the police (and then the victim/s) could have the opportunity to press charges or not?
If say someone was aware of the roastbusters – and said to the victims ‘you want to go to the police?’ – and then just did nothing if they didn’t?
Could an organisation not put pressure on a young person NOT to go to the police because (whatever)??? and if they do so – is this not enabling the attacker to carry on with the behaviour. (not saying that this is the case – but in general)
Upshot – I really think that it should be with the police – not the party and the police and the victims should decide what to do.
Well, I’ll wait and see how things pan out. It’s possible the victims have been provided with support by the Labour party, and that they are working towards them being comfortable with notifying police.
Police told Checkpoint that would encourage anyone with info who wishes to discuss it with them to go to them.
But, I don’t have a great deal of faith in the police given how they handled allegations from RoastBuster survivors.
Agreed James-clearly a police matter if the allegations are true.
It would be the same if, for instance, an MP had been assaulting his wife.
Andrew Kirton just said that he understands that the reporting is pretty accurate to what happened (words to that effect)
edit: agree with you on the assault thing – this is NEVER the type of thing that should be handled internally.
My question is, if this happened last month and Ardern has only just found out whats up with party communication?
Surely they have some form of ‘no surprises’ policy?
Also what was Labour thinking supplying copious amounts of alcohol to underage teenagers?
Were the organizers deluded that nothing bad would happen or weren’t aware that they were potentially breaking the law?
Duh.
The left were pretty fast at condemning Key’s penchant for pony tails; time to clean your own house I suggest.
“Also what was Labour thinking supplying copious amounts of alcohol to underage teenagers?”
it looks like people took their own along – not supplied by young labour.
But seems supervision wasnt either.
I’ve had the misfortune of working in a place where an employee alleged (to many although not the perpetrator) sexual harassment from the boss. Inquiries were made from their psychiatrist and the police.
Result: nothing happens without complainant pushing charges (they didn’t).
I’m not sure the same applies here but it may very well. I understand the Labour Party would stand behind the alleged victims if they chose to push charges which would be fitting IMO.
Well, the allegations seem to have been true about the Roastbusters but the police ignored them. They even had outright complaints.
Upshot – I really think that it should be with the police – not the party and the police and the victims should decide what to do.
Of course, it should, the whole thing pongs of a coverup, seriously these sexual assaults happened over a month ago and the police hadn’t been informed.
nor the parents it turns out.
That’s utterly disgraceful.
For their parents not to know there must have been pressure applied to these young people to not say anything.
Heads need to roll.
Can you substitute that allegation BM?
Innuendo in this situations does not help anyone least of all the 16 year olds.
“For their parents not to know there must have been pressure applied to these young people to not say anything.”
That’s an assumptive stretch, BM. Do better.
Are you alleging Labour covered up sexual assault? That’s not an appropriate allegation to be making.
What a load of bollocks.
Many people when sexually assaulted don’t want to tell anybody. A lot of that is due to how we treat victims often going on victim bashing sprees through the MSM instead listening and acting appropriately.
“If say someone was aware of the roastbusters – and said to the victims ‘you want to go to the police?’ – and then just did nothing if they didn’t?”
The victims there did go to the police, and no charges were laid. So that provides context for whether there is a obligation to leap-frog over the victims and go to the police without their input. The trial itself can be a trigger for assault victims, so the decision should primarily be theirs.
I would say, that the first instance should be of supporting the complainants – which includes encouraging police contact if appropriate – is a longer process than finding out and immediately making decisions. There has to be some time given to those assaulted to ensure that a police investigation won’t further add to their emotional burden, at that particular time.
Just listened to the Checkpoint interview.
Labour:
Didn’t tell the police
Didn’t tell the parents of the 16 yo kids
Didn’t tell the PM
But did get advise on how to handle it.
Its starting to look a lot like Andrew Kirton has been trying to cover this up.
Now your just point scoring.
Unseemly.
Do you disagree with me?
BTW – I wrote that after I had just listened to the interview and heard that they had chosen not to inform the parents.
Way to avoid my point.
likewise.
Point scoring, unseemly? you creepy disgusting old shit.
Crawl back under the rock you came from [Edit. Best not to go there Adam – MS] (bm) . How about we let the victims make decisions before we start making accusations.
But that all you do make assumptions and abuse people BM.
The political mistakes and BS will be sorted out. Give the people involved some room before you make judgements.
Fuck off, you disgusting, sexual assault enabling old prick.
[3 month ban. I’ve been watching your trolling since the election, and you appear to bring little to the site now. What is not ok is starting a flame war in a topic of this nature where many people are vulnerable. Throwing accusations around, using sexual assault to Labour-bash, it’s all the same kind of nasty, macho bullshit that makes it really hard to have meaningful conversations about rape culture on TS. – weka]
Oh do grow up BM.
You have made nothing but allegations without substance. You don’t want solutions, your just trying to score points.
If you want solutions, then let the right people do there jobs and help the people who needs help.
As for accusations. I’d like an apology becasue nothing I’ve said has enabled anyone except those who want to get to the truth without political hacks trying to point score.
Fuck off, you’re saying the labour party are the right people to handle and oversee these sexual assaults?
The same Labour party which was running the camps where these sexual assaults happened?
Shame on you Adam, the only thing you’re interested in here is making sure the Labour party doesn’t get splattered by the fall out of what went on at these camps, no concern of the actual victims.
Appalling hypocrisy
I was banned for much much less than this.
How you right wing trolls get away with these levels of abuse beats me.
I’ve never said labour party anything, now your just making shit up. Or as we in the trade call it, your lying to score points.
I’ve said let the right people do their job. The right people would be social workers and counselors train for these events.
I don’t give a rats about the labour party – as you well know. Or are you just trying to score points again.
Your the lowest form of low life BM one who will lie to cover their tracks.
As it stands, we don’t know if it is a Sexual Assault as there have been no charges. All we know is a drink male acted like a complete tosser.
So kindly shut up, let the right people do there jobs so we can know the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I know a bit much asking a right wing nutjob to be patient so truth can come out.
Because in the real world people, victims take time to come forward. They don’t work to political hack’s wannabe agendas.
https://thestandard.org.nz/chris-bishops-use-of-snapchat-causes-problems/#comment-1446809
The hypocrisy, as per normal, is coming from the RWNJs as they attack for political point scoring rather than giving a fuck about the victims.
Question for moderators?
So BM can make allegations with no substaine.
Then rather than answer those allegations, all he has chosen to do abuse me with no substance.
No debate, just abuse.
No he can’t, he’s out for 3 months. You can see why in my moderator note above.
Thank-you weka.
Amongst other things, there will be slightly less willy waving for 3 months.
Thanks for responding weka.
I just left for a bit, had enough of the accusations, and rubbish from BM.
just as an aside – I thought it was against the rules to use peoples real name if they choose to use a handle?
Stephen was a reference from Django Unchained.
Sorry – I didnt not make that link
Very unseemly.
We agree – get the police to complete a thorough investigation.
Ardern should have been informed earlier. kirton’s for the high jump, I suspect.
*covering it up IF that is so, Mr. Kirton has made a grievous error of judgment. However James, are you aware that 16 year olds do not have to involve their parents, and no one can over ride that right. Only the Police if some one complains to them.
Now, you are inferring drink was supplied by the organisers. IF that is so, another grievous error.
But, worse, Jacinda Ardern was blidsided by this by journalist, because she had no knowledge of it. That was another grievous error.
Personally I think he may lose his position.
Jacinda was rightly angry. She won’t want it ‘covered up”
“However James, are you aware that 16 year olds do not have to involve their parents, and no one can over ride that right.”
However Patricia are you aware that if you are aware of multiple sexual assaults of 16yo kids – you can just go to the police.
“”Only the Police if some one complains to them.”
Yep – and Labour CHOSE NOT to let the police know about the attacks.
“But, worse, Jacinda Ardern was blidsided by this by journalist”
Sorry – that is not worse than what has happened.
There are definitely things here that Labour need to be held account for (without looking too deeply, not dealing with the assaults at the time or giving the victims adequate support, the lack of supervision at the social event, the amount of alcohol involved).
You keep asking about the police, so it’s time for you to educate yourself about why the victims of sexual assault often don’t go to the police. You started this thread reasonably well, but it’s not going to be ok to turn this into an opportunity to Labour-bash nor to sensationalise the situation.
My suggestion in general to the men here who want to have a shit fight about this, is to sit down and shut up, and start listening to what women are saying. Women generally understand what the issues are and how to talk about them without making the conversations unsafe or into flamewars.
again – Im trying to be careful here with my reply – and again being very genuine and not basing or anything …
“You keep asking about the police, so it’s time for you to educate yourself about why the victims of sexual assault often don’t go to the police.”
In this instance – Labour knew that assaults had happened (according to AK). It wasn’t just against one person, but several.
which takes me back to my original post:
“If you are aware of multiple sexual assaults should a person not have the responsibility to report that to the police (and then the victim/s) could have the opportunity to press charges or not?”
And given that the party would have an agenda for this NOT to move forward ?
“Could an organisation not put pressure on a young person NOT to go to the police because (whatever)??? and if they do so – is this not enabling the attacker to carry on with the behaviour”. (AGAIN NOT SAYING THAT THIS IS THE CASE).
Upshot – I really think that it should be with the police – not the party and the police and the victims should decide what to do.
WEKA – given the nature of the topic – I want to be clear that this is a genuine question – not playing a silly game.
I don’t actually care what your reckons are James, because you seem to think that your opinion is the important thing here. I don’t know enough about the situation to make a judgement call on whether the police should have been involved or not. Mostly I would want to hear what the victims have to say about that. As I said, imo you need to educate yourself about rape culture and what going to the police means. Either you don’t, and are expressing opinion from a place of ignorance, or you do and you think your opinion should take precedence over the safety of the people assaulted.
As I also said, Labour have not handled this well on a number of fronts. What they do next is going to be important.
“AGAIN NOT SAYING THAT THIS IS THE CASE”
Then why bring it up? At this stage we don’t know what happened. People will speculate, but there are still considered ways to think about this and then there are inflammatory ways.
If the victims were age ten, I’d right with an automatic parent and police referral.
At sixteen they can probably make their own decisions, if they are treated with repect and will be clearly supported in any decision they made. And as long as everything is documented, there’s no rush to force them into any course of action.
The lack of supervision at the event and the alcohol also need to be actively addressed.
‘James’, like you I’m a positive person in ‘real life’, but here the rwnj commentariat (youself, Tanz, BM, Alwyn, chris73, funstigator, indiana, timeforacupoftea, solkta, Stunned mullet, Puckish Rogue, Alan, Tuppence Shrewsbury, Mikes, Antoine, fisiani (a deleted persona that existed only to adulate Honest John Key), et al. [apologies if I’ve got someone wrong]) bring out the worst in me.
Your morals, and those of other rwnjs, strike me as out-of-whack, with ethical behaviour being ‘for others only’. I sometimes fantasise that most of the many rwnjs infesting The Standard (and there must be dozens of them) are actually one person, seated in a windowless room with a computer and an electronic whiteboard that lists various personas’ characteristics, backstories and where they stand on the rwnj spectrum.
‘Your’ incessant ‘twitting’ is particularly disruptive – today alone you’ve ‘contributed’ 20 ‘twits’; are you paid ‘by the twit’, rather than ‘per word’?
On a serious note, would you (’James’) care to share (briefly) the story of how someone who “left school at 15” became a successful “IT guy”, and more. C’mon, James, let your humble desire to help others inspire our struggling teens –
Let’s do this 😉
“On a serious note, would you (’James’) care to share (briefly) the story of how someone who “left school at 15” became a successful “IT guy”
Sure. Normal school wasn’t for me.
Self taught – worked extremely hard for a very long time.
Had a natural leaning for IT and an ability to understand business issues and use technology to slove them.
Nice that you have such an interest in me. personally I don’t give you a second thought.
‘James’, thanks for those details, I’ll pass them on. Still on your ‘flame wars’ and ‘personal insults’ hobbyhorse – congrats.
Not putting a second thought into your replies would explain why they make no sense.
I am impressed by your preternatural awareness of envy, jealousy, bitterness and misery in others. Do you know anyone who doesn’t envy you?
Your welcome.
However I said that I don’t give you a second thought (as opposed to my replies as you said).
Said in regard to you obviously having a bit of a crush on me of late (bless).
Anyway- have work in the morning and have to head to the city – so I’m off to bed.
Have a pleasant evening.
‘James’, fascinating that your extra-sensory perceptions now extend to detecting those that have a crush on you – how’s that working out for you?
Don’t understand how you can get up in the morning, what with all those admirers crushing on you – I’m jealous.
Sadly, it seems you have a major crush on The Standard of late. Will just have to grimace and bear it.
You’ve definitely got me wrong, I’ve voter Labor my entire life.
They got solkta wrong too. Probably others.
Genuine apologies to ‘mikes’, ‘solkta’ and anyone else I’ve mis-represented in such ‘black and white’ terms – should have taken the time to do more research.
If I could I would ‘de-list’ mikes/solkta, and add ‘infused’ and (the already gone) ‘Son of Don’.
Also, shouldn’t have let ‘James‘ get under my skin, but he was on the verge of wetting himself over the ‘party political’ dimensions of the assaults, while displaying very little concern (genuine or otherwise) for the victims. Plus the whole ‘Tanz vs Anne vs James’ tit-for-tat nonsense.
I’m going to button it for now – thanks (that’s genuine too) to Weka and other Standard authors/mods.
EDIT: OK my original text just disappeared. This is one disabled person talking about their submission to the euthanasia disabled bill before parliament recently.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/national-video/news/video.cfm?c_id=1503075&gal_cid=1503075&gallery_id=189737
‘If you are aware of multiple sexual assaults should a person not have the responsibility to report that to the police (and then the victim/s) could have the opportunity to press charges or not?’
Of course – and do you have any reason to think that has not been the case in this instance?
In fact, I would expect, especially in view of the youthfulness of the victims, to be supportive of whatever action they wish to take.
However, in view of the obnoxious attitude you frequently display on this site, I find it very difficult to believe that your concern, in this case, is genuine
“‘If you are aware of multiple sexual assaults should a person not have the responsibility to report that to the police (and then the victim/s) could have the opportunity to press charges or not?’
Of course – and do you have any reason to think that has not been the case in this instance?”
Yes – I do because labour were aware of it and DIDNT report it to the police!
This is more like it.
“Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has banned all Government departments from using a firm of private investigators for spying.”
It follows a Newshub investigation that found state-owned insurers Southern Response got the investigators from Thompson and Clark to snoop on victims of the Christchurch earthquake at the taxpayers’ expense.
Ms Ardern says this was “totally inappropriate” and other Government departments should not be using them.”
Now let’s see the government adopt the same approach to Uber, Amazon, AMI, the Australian banks.
Boot them all out.
http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/03/pm-jacinda-ardern-bans-private-investigators-behind-southern-response-spying.html
Boot out Amazon?
Yeah – that would work – Can you imaging the outcry when everybodys netflix stops working (along with all the other businesses who rely on Amazon)
There’s a difference between using public money to hire private investigators to suppress lawful dissent and the data collection that makes some large tech corporations questionable. Amazon et al don’t have the same duties in respect of the public as a public service.
I would like to know the prime minister’s opinion on the police collecting data around an (a?) euthanasia meeting.
Ok for the state to snoop around the citizenry but not a private company.
I imagine that she’d be happy with the process in principle (police do have to investigate groups sometimes) but might consider it an example of particularly poor judgement.
Funny you should put it like that.
I thought it absolutely lacked principle and agree with you that it was poor judgement.
I’m sure Jacinta doesn’t want any investigations (private or otherwise) into the goings on in her Party. This is the tip of the iceberg apparently…
Jacinta? the rest of your comment is wrong too.
There was an article the other day about why some people confuse the NT sound with the ND sound…I think the former is more common and so our brain assumes that it’s likely to be correct.
There is also no “d” in most (all?) Pacific languages – which came up last week as an explanation as to why Jacinda’s name was spelt with a “t” on banners, media reports etc in some countries visited by the Parliamentary Mission to Samoa, Niue,, Tonga and the Cook Islands last week.
Tim Murphy (Newsroom.co.nz) has just tweeted that”
“hearing word that there may have been issues at previous Labour Youth camps …..”
Oh…. that Tim Murphy? The one who thought he had a “Mother of all stories ” about Winston? That guy?????
The story gets more interesting:
Tim Murphy (Newsroom.co.nz):
‘sexual abuse counselling’ service Andrew Kirton mentions for victims was made available yesterday – Sunday – before the Monday story.
WOW !!!
I’m quite concerned by your excitement.
There are victims here.
You know that, don’t you?
Establish what happened, and support the victims. Yes, there are other concerns (for example, James, with barely concealed glee, considers the story ‘interesting’), but the victims wishes are paramount.
At the bottom of this post are some resources you can use without having to report officially, if you aren’t ready to take that step yet.
More signs of how climate change is affecting our country.
The Herald calls it weird weather.
Rachel Stewart asks if we’re worried yet.
Catastrophic climate change is here.
“Our barren Alps: Aerial survey shows snow loss ‘incredibly extreme’
After a summer in which which January temperatures were nearly 3C warmer than average, it was expected the glaciers would lose mass and the snowlines would rise. But the results were far more dramatic than any past survey, and showed some of the Alps had barely any fresh snow at all.”
https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/102181406/our-barren-alps-aerial-survey-shows-snow-loss-incredibly-extreme
Oh dear, a scandal has broken. Surprise surprise. National would never stoop this low, and they would not hide it from the public and police. Always different when the left do it.
[if you use this as an excuse to bash Labour or the left, you can expect to be banned. Only warning – weka]
Yep Tanz, and the criminal was one drunken yahoo. Not all who were there. One rotten apple perhaps?
It’s only a short read, Tanz, right up your alley…
http://thehandmirror.blogspot.co.nz/2014/08/national-party-alleged-rape-culture.html
Translation:
Songtext von Fredrik Vahle
eh, what planet are you on ? the chief of defense out rite lied on national tv and now caught out, the innocents in this case lost their lives, yes always different when nats do it.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/102179541/docked-wages-the-sticking-point-over-lyttelton-port-strike
What’s this negotiation all about (anyone?)
More “flexible” working hours wanted for less pay. The usual.
“Managers” that cannot figure out how many workers they need each day, want the workers to cover the cost of their inability to do their sums.
Well I hope the kids involved get all the support and help they need first and foremost and the guy that did this gets punished accordingly and his name published with victims names and relationship to the crim, if any, suppressed
Apart from anything else, this camp “scandal” business highlights some really, really bad political management from Labour. What on earth was Andrew Kirton thinking when he chose not to inform the PM? What a moron, any half-wit should have been able to work out it isn’t a good look for the PM to hear about such things through the news media.
On the same day you have Jenny Salesa’s office giving a different line to the media on her travel expenses to the PM’s comments at Jacinda news conference.
Both these stories are grist for the mill for our lazy, underfunded, gotcha! MSM.
The only blessing is neither Clare Curran or Poto Williams said something idiotic on the same day.
Labour needs to tighten the messaging discipline big time.
I sense a feeling that “Jacinda should have been told” , I disagree , IMHO it is correct to keep a firewall between the political and organisational sections of the party, Its actually a sign that Kirton might have some smarts.
Except when a journalist starts asking questions
Thats right! and then (given that whatever action was taken will be attacked) its better she did not know