Deep sea oil drilling

Written By: - Date published: 9:34 am, January 23rd, 2014 - 91 comments
Categories: climate change, Economy, energy, Environment - Tags:

Piha no oil sea drilling protest-17

The Labour Party is a broad church and its members hold a diversity of views.  For instance Pacifica are amongst the strongest supporters of the party but their christian conservatism can cause tension with some of the more socially progressive policies that other members of the party support.

And the debate on deep sea oil drilling certainly shows that there is a diversity of views on this issue within the party.

For instance recently Shane Jones publicly supported Anadarko’s oil exploration in New Zealand.

He opposed attempts to stop Anadarko from deep sea drilling and said on Te Kaea that the protesters should remember that the company has a statutory right to conduct deep sea oil exploration.

Protesters need to bear in mind we are buying oil out of the Gulf of Mexico and other far-flung places when we should be focusing on making an industry in our own country.”

He also noted that Anadarko was spending a million dollars a day on its programme and said that it was good for New Zealand.

It is not surprising that there are some within the party with these views.  The party was formed from unions whose workers depended on extractive industries for work.  And the EPMU has members who work on the Taranaki Oil Rigs.  There is clearly a tension between the environmental and the industrial wings of the party on the issue.

The party’s policy platform places an emphasis on addressing climate change.  An “all gases all sectors” ETS free from subsidies to greenhouse gas polluters is supported and a transfer to renewable energy over a period of time is advocated for.  In relation to extraction it says the following:

4.16 Resource extraction—While we move away from our dependence on fossil fuels, the extractive industries will continue to be a significant part of the New Zealand economy. These industries deliver construction and manufacturing materials and/or overseas currency vital to our current economic model. Labour is committed to the lowest possible environmental risk from these extractive industries. We will have clear environmental expectations of those engaging in exploration and extraction. Future projects must meet higher standards in emergency response preparedness, liability, and ability to pay if an accident occurs.

4.17 Labour will put in place appropriate legislative provisions to protect the environment, and appropriate regulatory controls for this purpose (including stringent environmental impact statements and ongoing monitoring of sites), backed by adequate and appropriately skilled inspectorate. As part of resource management decision-making, we will consider the appropriate weighting of criteria for extractive resource proposals, including the end use and type of extracted resources, and their contribution to greenhouse gas emissions.

This position was reaffirmed by David Cunliffe yesterday.  From the Herald:

A Labour-led Government would change laws to strengthen environmental protections around deep sea oil exploration but would work with existing explorers to allow them to meet the new standards, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says.

Labour’s position on deep sea oil exploration including Texan company Anadarko’s current programmes in the Taranaki and Pegasus basins has at times been inconsistent. Economic development spokesman Shane Jones has extolled the benefits in terms of jobs while other MPs such as Phil Twyford have attended anti Anadarko protests.

This morning, Mr Cunliffe said Labour had always been clear about its position, “which is firstly, we are not opposed in principle to deep sea oil exploration, secondly if it is to proceed it needs to have world’s best practice environment standards, full liability cover and clean up capacity and based on what we’ve currently seen, we’re not yet convinced that those conditions have been met.

Mr Cunliffe said Labour’s view was that New Zealand’s law currently didn’t require world’s best practice in deep sea oil exploration, ”so we will be changing the law so it does and we will expect future consents to meet those standards”.

However, Labour would not immediately halt existing exploration programmes.

“We will work with the industry to make sure existing consents meet those standards.

“If a drilling consent has been issued under the current regulatory framework then under the law it is valid at the time it is issued. If the law and the standards change in future, my expectation would be a migration path or an opportunity for those companies to bring their operations up to those future standards.”

The Greens’ position is here.  I have not seen it enunciated but this morning on Radio New Zealand Russell Norman talked about how the planet already had more than enough discovered oil which if all burned would cause the planet to fry so I presume the Greens preference would be for an immediate moratorium.  I do not know how they will deal with existing permits.

There are going to be issues where Labour and the Greens disagree.  This is inevitable and at one level important.   The Greens are a proudly independent party.

If there is a Labour Green Coalition after this year’s election no doubt resolving a position on this issue will be one of their first tests.

91 comments on “Deep sea oil drilling ”

  1. Will@Welly 1

    I see this as wanting to have a bob each way – wanting the royalties, and down the track, wanting best practice. In the interim, Labour has yet to have the discussion around climate change – maybe as the rising tides buffet the Beehive David Cunciffle & co might think that perhaps they should have had that discussion earlier.
    l
    And if there is an oil spill, expect the Minister of Crayfish, Kina and Paua, Shane Jones to lead the wailing for compensation.

    • geoff 1.1

      I kinda agree with Will here. You can’t have two contradictory policies without looking like a fraud. To be fair we haven’t yet had the full policy announcements yet, so when we do they may all fit together into a cohesive, long-term picture.

      • weka 1.1.1

        What’s the contradiction between best practice and royalties? Or did you mean between oil drilling and climate change policies?

        • geoff 1.1.1.1

          yeah oil drilling and climate change. To my mind, the only way you could have a non-contradictory position was if the proceeds from your oil drilling were used to transition to a carbon-neutral economy.

          • MaxFletcher 1.1.1.1.1

            There’s the thing – we need fossils fuels in order to make the transition

            • Colonial Viper 1.1.1.1.1.1

              Exactly. At this stage, it’s the only moral reason to use fossil fuels.

            • geoff 1.1.1.1.1.2

              Yeah but who’s to say there isn’t enough fossil fuel being dug up already to do the transition?
              Why do we have to do it too, Max?

              • weka

                We don’t. And we certainly don’t have to engage in risky extraction in order to transition. But it depends on what you mean by transition. Powerdown or Green tech supported carry on as usual?

                • geoff

                  I suppose, for the western world, transition means moving to a carbon neutral economy while still keeping intact most of the modern conveniences it presently enjoys.

                  Sound reasonable?

                  • weka

                    Ok. Reasonable? Well consider that even were such a transition possible with the oil we have access to now (which it’s not), it would still do nothing to mitigate AGW in a meaningful way. There is no way to have our current lifestyles (2 car households, flat screen tvs, smart phones) and for that to be sustainable. That is a straightout matter of physics.

                    Other people use the term transition to mean powering down from the perpetual growth economy and creating truly sustainable systems. Inherent in this is a large change in how we all live our lives.

                    Here’s a good overview (note she outlines the reason that powerdown is inevitable not a choice).

                    http://www.resilience.org/stories/2013-12-09/powerdown-let-s-talk-about-it

                    • geoff

                      I was just attempting to define what I think most people would think the word transition means for the western world. Is it really much of a ‘transition’ if there are significant material changes to the western quality of life?

                      The expectation may well be unreasonable, I don’t know, as they say.. predictions are very difficult especially if it’s about the future…

                    • weka

                      The term transition has been predominantly used by the parts of the community who believe we have to power down. Hence the Transition Town movement.

                      “predictions are very difficult especially if it’s about the future…”

                      Except that where people are ‘predicting’ a green tech save for our predicament (eg electric cars, solar panels), it’s not really about predictions, it’s about physics. You can’t get blood out of a stone. Did you read the linked article? We already know there will be a shortage of the rare metals needed for an green tech save. We also know that the EROEI doesn’t work in favour of the green tech save. Hence the transition to powerdown and whether we use oil to do that.

                      Beyond all that, there is no reason to use hard to get oil (eg deep sea drilling) to transition. All that does is push the transition timeframe out further, with considerable risk to the environment.

                    • geoff

                      I did read the article. It has a lot of assertions but little else. That’s not to say that it’s wrong but there are plenty of other people who are optimistic about the technological possibilities of the future.

                      Because there is such a range of opinions about what is possible I’m not about to throw in with any one lot.

                      I’m not super pessimistic about the physics, particularly the energy requirements. Only a small fraction of the solar energy that falls on the earth every day is all that would be required to power even our present, highly inefficient system.

                      I am much more pessimistic about the political problems than the technical ones, as far as transitioning to a carbon neutral economy is concerned.

              • ghostwhowalksnz

                Peak Oil.

                As well drilling for oil AND hydrocarbons.

                Finding large quantities of natural gas will reduce the need to use coal. Carbon emissions reduced dramatically

    • Steve Wrathall 1.2

      What rising tide? There is no evidence that global sea levels are accelerating beyond a non-alarming 3 mm/year
      http://sealevel.colorado.edu/
      And yet the usual suspects still breathlessly predict metres of sea level rise this century.

    • Markymark 1.3

      In summary:

      Labours position on deep sea oil drilling is EXACTLY the same as National’s (both want it done, but with best practice, world class safe guards, and appropriate contingency plans.)

      The Greens are opposed to deep sea oil drilling due to concearns over the enviroment.

      Question: After Simon Bridges screw up on Campbell live and other concearns, why is the Labour party now so happy to literally replicate National’s position?

      Another Cunliffe flip flop, it seems.

      • Colonial Viper 1.3.1

        National will SAY that they want world class safeguards, Labour will ENFORCE it. That’s the difference.

      • mickysavage 1.3.2

        Nope it is not the same. There is a discussion on who does best practice and the feeling is that Norway presents the best model. You can bet that if in power there will be significant tightening of the rules.

        Some would prefer an outright ban and I have a lot of sympathy for this view but I am not the Labour Party.

        • Colonial Viper 1.3.2.1

          You wouldn’t frame it as a ban…you’d frame it as the creation of “NZ strategic energy reserves”, to remain untouched for a period of no less than 10 years while a major transition off fossil fuels was initiated 😉

  2. Puckish Rogue 2

    On this issue Labour are right and the Greens are wrong

    • geoff 2.1

      Come on, you can do better than that. Justification??

      • Puckish Rogue 2.1.1

        Because I agree with Labours position and disagree with the Greens?

        • geoff 2.1.1.1

          -F

          • Paul 2.1.1.1.1

            Unable to explain ideas or support arguments with any evidence.
            A good writer at primary school can do better.

            • Puckish Rogue 2.1.1.1.1.1

              I can’t really be arsed to go into detail why drilling and mining are good since the arguements have been debated on this site ad nauseum so in summary more jobs and earnings for the govt = good

              So again Cunliffes right and the Greens are living in la-la land

              • Paul

                Could you link to your comment where you actually explained your ideas with some evidence?
                And without using derogatory language such as ‘lala land.”
                I cannot remember you ever doing anything other that attempting to derail debate or make firebrand comments.

                • Puckish Rogue

                  So by agreeing with Cunliffe I’m attempting to derail debate or make firebrand comments?

    • toad 2.2

      PR, Labour’s policy seems to be all about minimising the risk of a spill, but you can never minimise the risk to zero.

      Labour’s announcement doesn’t seem to address at all what it would do in response to a significant spill. We have only 3 spill response boats the size of dingies, FFS, and only 400 trained regional responders nationwide.

      If we are going to permit deep sea drilling, that issue must be addressed. Either Maritime NZ must be given the capacity to respond to a spill because NZ is so isolated it would take weeks to get response vessels from overseas (hugely expensive, and would result in capital tied up in vessels that could sit idle for years on end) or the oil companies themselves must be required to provide the capacity (including a backup rig) to respond to a spill .

      The latter may be a way of reconciling the Greens’ and Labour’s positions in coalition. If the Greens can negotiate to require environmental regulation and spill response capacity requirements on oil companies that are tough enough (and expensive enough for the oil companies) to be genuine world best practice, very few, if any, deep sea wells are likely to be drilled.

      • marty mars 2.2.1

        yep plus I’d say labour policy is about, “minimising the risk of any ‘middlenz’ backlash – must.get.into.power. – self centred, self absorbed and fake caring about the environment, the children, and this country’s future – guess what labour, this combination of fake and selffish is not attractive, not even to that hump the middle, you covert so much.

      • mickysavage 2.2.2

        Agreed toad.

        Cunliffe did say “if [oil drilling] is to proceed it needs to have world’s best practice environment standards, full liability cover and clean up capacity and based on what we’ve currently seen, we’re not yet convinced that those conditions have been met” so I would interpret this as requiring way more infrastructure than we have right now.

        • Puckish Rogue 2.2.2.1

          I interpret it as drilling going ahead and if you’re going to have drilling you’ll have mining. Cunliffes moving away from the nutters in the Greens and towards the center which is good for NZ

          • Paul 2.2.2.1.1

            And only able to play the man, not the ball…
            Uses insults, doesn’t debate the issue.
            Very tiresome.

  3. Tiger Mountain 3

    At all stages the New Zealand environment takes all the risks associated with deep drilling and to add insult only miserly amounts of loot (5% apparently) would stay in in New Zealand IF saleable amounts of the black gold is extracted without incident. Of course a major disaster could occur with no economic result at all.

    A conference with a resulting moratorium at least, after the election of a Labour/Green government would be the way to go.

  4. Bearded Git 4

    Labour policy should state clearly that all future applications for drilling (onshore or offshore) will be publicly notified, that is allowing the public and public interest groups to have their say through submissions/evidence at Council level and able to appeal to the Environment Court.

    My experience of the Envirnment Court is that when professional evidence is put forward and subject to cross examination much more stringent conditions result.

    On this subject Labour/Greens need to make it easier for genuine public interest groups to obtain funding to pay for Environment Court appeals.

  5. imo ‘not opposed in principle’ is a great line of nothing. The choices are stark – give gnats and labour your vote and they will keep the exploitation bandwagon rolling (for the benefit of the multinational corporations) oh and we’re supposed to be grateful too ffs – curse both of those houses!!!

    • tinfoilhat 5.1

      Of course that’s the case, however, you will have a plethora of apologists on this site justifying Labour’s position and should labour manage to form a government with a higher percentage of the vote than the Greens we will just have a few terms of National lite.

  6. Chooky 6

    Chooky 5.3
    23 January 2014 at 9:12 am

    (Conversation seems better over here rather than in Open Mike)

    imo….unless New Zealanders take control of oil exploration ( as in Norway) and receive 80% of the profits of the oil , the risks of exploration to NZ coasts and the problems of adding to global warming by fossil fuels …..make it not worth while

    In other words a few piffly jobs for NZers…. in exchange for oil drilling ( and all the dirty environmental risks and social downside are ours ) …..while all the PROFITS go OUT of the country into the hands of multi national oil companies… ( plus the probability of a few backhanders and shares for the compliant )….as is likely under National …… is theft from NZers!

    ….Key’s National oil deals and proposals are pathetic and should not be countenanced

    ….Labour has a lot of work to do to get an acceptable Norwegian model deal on oil… for ALL NZers ….anything else is unacceptable!

    Reply
    Chooky 5.3.1
    23 January 2014 at 9:21 am
    Maybe the Labour Party should get Farouk al-Kasam out to advise them on how to go about it. He is an oil expert and has seen the downside of oil drilling in many countries both environmentally and socially. He helped Norway take control of their own oil rather than being a passive ‘victim’ of the oil multi nationals

    Farouk al-Kasim, the Iraqi geologist who has been more responsible than anyone else for Norway’s success as an oil power.

    Farouk al-Kasim, the man behind Norway’s oil success | TIME.com http://business.time.com/2009/08/31/how-socialized-health-care-made-norway-an-oil-power/#ixzz2rA0UIIyy

    Reply
    Bearded Git 5.3.2
    23 January 2014 at 9:53 am
    Chooky-Norway has 67% of the oil/gas industry through Statoil (and so gets 67% of revenue as well as some jobs from the other 33%).
    Labour made noises about looking at this model when it announced the drilling policy-looks good to me.

    Reply
    geoff 5.3.2.1
    23 January 2014 at 10:00 am
    Yeah but NZ doesn’t have a statoil, right?

    Reply
    Chooky 5.3.2.2
    23 January 2014 at 10:01 am
    @ Bearded Git…..great…the more every NZer gets the better…(eg for free tertiary education, health , retirement, living allowance, start up companies, public transport , railway upgrade, cleaning up rivers, full employment, safeguarding DOC estate … etc etc )

    @ geoff….well imo that is why the Labour Party need to work and get advice on how to get a get a Statoil

    • Xtasy 6.1

      Interesting, and I know Norway has been much smarter in economic planning than NZ, who fell hook line and sinker for Chicago Boys under Douglas.

  7. shorts 7

    very wary of this announcement by Labour – its good that protections and regulations will be increased under it but not a word on actually increasing the royalty payable to NZ, ie making the risk actually worth it (highly debatable in itself)

    The party is gambling with a lot of votes with this announcement and issue

    • toad 7.1

      But those votes will only go to the Greens, and thereby strengthen the Greens’ negotiating position in coalition negotiations with Labour. Which is not a bad thing imo, given that I support the Greens’ position that the return is not worth the risk.

      • Jenny 7.1.1

        “But those votes will only go to the Greens, and thereby strengthen the Greens’ negotiating position in coalition negotiations with Labour.”
        toad

        No, this policy will strengthen National’s announced election strategy of demonising the Green Party, and cost the Green Party votes.

        Instead of standing in solidarity with their coalition “partner” Labour is letting them swing in the wind to become a target for the Nats.

        • Colonial Viper 7.1.1.1

          Why are you still posting? Apart from one comment lprent let through a couple of days ago, you are still banned as far as I know and have repeatedly flouted that ban.

          • Jenny 7.1.1.1.1

            Why are you still posting?…
            you are still banned as far as I know…

            I don’t know.

            [lprent; She has been writing comments throughout her ban. Periodically I see a particularly pertinent one and don’t file it in the trash. Other moderators do as well. Her commenting style is getting more concise and effective as she waits out the exile. 😈 ]

        • toad 7.1.1.2

          No, this policy will strengthen National’s announced election strategy of demonising the Green Party, and cost the Green Party votes.

          That strategy worked a treat the last time the Nats tried it. In 1999, the Nats attempt to demonise the Greens saw Green support increase from 1% 6 weeks before the election to break the 5% threshold.

          • marty mars 7.1.1.2.1

            It seems a clear distancing tactic from labour and the greens are left as targets between the ‘sensible’ gnats and labour. i don’t think Mana will cave so the greens have good company and of course the many many citizens prepared to fight in the ditches on this one. What about fracking labour? Oh that’s right let’s get the best practice models in place – ffs

            • shorts 7.1.1.2.1.1

              seems labour are all about being seen to be moderate and pragmatic… appeal to those nice moderate voters everyone targets…. which seems to be at odds with what so many (on the left at least) want

  8. Enough is Enough 8

    There is only one way to be certain that these Foreign Capitalist Burglars do not destroy our seas, surf, beach and marine wild life.

    That is don’t allow them to poke holes into the sea bed under any circumstance.

    No Ifs. No Buts. No Deep Sea Drilling

  9. JK 9

    This is a useful summary of the current Labour position – thanks, Mickey. Its a difficult issue for both Labour and Greens to tackle together – and also for Labour to tackle internally. I take your point about the EPMU particularly being in favour because of the current jobs available in Taranaki, but when you hear that the EPA hasn’t really looked at how specific, practical or stringent the Anadarko’s spill-cleanup processes are, you do have to wonder whether NZ is taking a bit too much on trust – from the exploration companies.

  10. Jackal 10

    First off, extractive industries are not a significant part of the New Zealand economy. They provide a minuscule amount of reimbursement, which is currently the fourth lowest in the world. They also receive substantial government subsidies. Between 2008 and 2012 the National government provided the oil and gas industry with $326.6 million worth of subsidies and extended a number of tax-breaks, which effectively mean taxpayers are paying for the oil and gas industry to be here.

    Furthermore, when claims of the oil and gas industry providing $10 billion are made, they need to be taken with a grain of salt. This amount is the TOTAL income from oil and gas since those industries began in New Zealand around a hundred years ago. This figure is also the best-case scenario if all current and potential sites produce at full capacity. In other words it’s a big fat lie! Also keep in mind that clean technology like solar and wind power creates five times as many jobs as the oil and gas industry for the same amount of investment.

    When you combine these facts with the reality that New Zealand is in no way ready to deal with even a moderately small oil spill, then it is clear that we shouldn’t be following National down the environmentally destructive and economically irresponsible road to oblivion.

    The so-called leaders of New Zealand can wax lyrical about needing growth and creating jobs, but when these things come at huge expense to the environment and undoubtedly contribute to climate change, then people need to draw a line in the sand. The small amount of income from the oil and gas industry will certainly not pay for the damage caused by increased amounts of severe weather events…it will not pay for the clean-up in the event of a large scale disaster like the Deepwater Horizon.

    • marty mars 10.1

      + 1 Yes jackal their projections and financials are always optimistically made up and that point needs to be hammered day and night.

    • Chooky 10.2

      @ Jackel…all the more reason why Labour should take NZ govt control of any oil exploration as Norway did before the big finds…when big finds were just a possibility.

      ….it may be that areas are too risky for drilling given the earthquakes risks and liabilites to NZers…eg..do oil extraction sink holes cause earthquakes ?( from an ex oil worker I heard that off the coast of Japan on some island they did …and it did not receive international publicity)

      ….also from what I have heard from Taranaki relatives ….oil toxin /pollution of land is covered up by bribes /handouts to the farmers concerned

      ….a wider issue is fracking….does the NZ State know and does the NZ State yet have jurisdiction on the types of chemicals/toxins that are/will be pumped into our Earth in fracking?….another reason for State control

      NZ needs big international experience and advice on these issues with NZers interests at heart….our politicians are not experienced and probably quite naive….as NZers lets not be taken for fools and ripped off…we have to insist our politicians act responsibly and are held accountable

    • Paul 10.3

      Miss your blog Jackal!

    • Naki Man 10.4

      Jackal
      Your numbers are crap.
      This is our 4th biggest earner at $2.2 billion per year

  11. Bill 11

    I’m going to punt on public opinion having a significant impact on party positions re drilling/exploration in the not too distant future.

    At the moment, the ‘discussion’ has AGW sitting off in the background somewhere. If and when we bring that to the fore, attitudes will shift and parties (eventually) respond accordingly.

    • Jenny 11.1

      “At the moment, the ‘discussion’ has AGW sitting off in the background somewhere. If and when we bring that to the fore, attitudes will shift and parties (eventually) respond accordingly.”
      Bill

      Until then; The snake eats the elephant again.

      http://hot-topic.co.nz/a-snake-swallows-the-elephant-in-the-room-and-then-flogs-a-dead-horse-climate-change-politics-in-nz-election-2011/

      If David Cunliffe had come out against Deep Sea Oil Drilling and explained why, this would move the debate about climate change front and centre in these elections.

      And it is a debate that National could not possibly win. And as you say Bill, attitudes would shift and (all) parties would have to respond accordingly.

      The fact is we need to be having this debate now, not at some time in the undefined future. Because quite frankly, Time Has Run Out.

      • marty mars 11.1.1

        Good points jenny – the days of pretend caring are over the time for leadership and courage are here – labour could have had a game-changer here if they had fronted up to reality instead they slip back into the morasses of vote-chasing and short-term opportunism, bundled tightly with denial, and illusory business as usual. The time to make a stand on this is now because that has the best chance of shifting attitudes and helping people get ready for the future upon us now.

    • McFlock 11.2

      couple more Auckland tornadoes would change the dialogue sharpish

  12. Skinny 12

    In effect what Labour is doing here is taking the wind out of Nationals sails. There are three good things that I can see at first blush.

    1. Keeping the fight tight, DC by stating they will continue deep sea drilling, silences National on exploration revenue, which appeals to many Kiwi’s. Labour actually have the advantage of being able to lay criticism 
    of the Government for the low returns to this Country that they brokered. 
    It also gives Labour the ability to replicate highly successful wealth sharing model like that in Norway.  

    2. Labour get to tidy up Nationals scruffy-hasty legislation, introducing environmental regulations, that quite frankly National were irresponsibly negligent, it horrified the most avid pro drilling supporter, once details of a ‘what if’ case scenario unfolded.

    3. There coalition partners the Greens get to strengthen environmental legislation, it would be a harsh critic that deny they have our environments best interests at heart, hence our own. They also get input into refining financial benefits from any drilling agreement.                      

    It is very enjoyable watching Key-National self destruct 🙂 All those false smiles and nervous twitches so early in election year.  

    • Jenny 12.1

      !!!!!?????

    • weka 12.2

      Agreed. I think this is potentially a very smart move from Labour. It will appeal to their voters and potential voters while allowing the GP to speak out strongly on its own policy. At best it will shift NZ further left, and further towards real environmental policy.

      The crunch is whether Labour will follow through with the potential, or whether it will be nobbled yet again by the neoliberals within the party and the policy gets watered down. We’re all still waiting to see which way Labour is going to go.

      • Skinny 12.2.1

        Yes Weka there are a few in that caucus like Goff that need muzzling. The last thing the LP needs to be doing is sending out mixed messages. While most of the rank and file appear to have overwhelming endorsed a correction to the left, it’s your bloody MPs who run a muck.

  13. xtasy 13

    The announcements that Cunliffe made yesterday did not surprise me at all. There is obviously a reprioritising process happening re Labour’s policies, and a defining re how they will look like. As Cunliffe continues to stress the aim of making New Zealand more “sustainable”, some will rest assured, that the medium to long term direction remains unchanged, that New Zealand will become an environmentally more responsible and sounder economy and society, relying more on “green” or alternative energy.

    But as it has been pointed out, there are union members working in oil and gas drilling, in mining and other related sectors, and there are also a fair number of people in the public, who depend on and want to continue to rely on these industries.

    So Labour is of course caught in a spot, where it has to please both sides to the argument, the more environmentally concerned and the more industry and employment concerned.

    It makes common sense to follow the model that Norway used, but it will take time and effort to see how that can be realised in a rather “hands off” economic environment that New Zealand has become. I doubt that the ideas of Hugo Chavez will be followed by Cunliffe and Labour, and setting up an SOE, or having Solid Energy reinvigorated and involved, will be no easy task.

    In any case, it is my view, that it is becoming clearer, how Cunliffe and Labour are going to fight this election. Stuart Nash revealed some of that apparent agenda in his The Daily Blog post not long ago:
    http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2014/01/10/its-not-what-you-say-but-what-they-hear/

    While I do not expect David Cunliffe to lead Labour down the track as Nash seems to suggest they should go, I believe it is fair to expect that Labour will fight the election focused clearly on the middle class, at the same time trying to win over the working poor. They will though make efforts to show the differences to the Greens and will try to win back some votes from the Greens, but more focus on getting votes off National and the non voters that may be found with more “centrist” views and expectations.

    The gloves will come of on some topics, and deep sea drilling and mining will be one of these. And the Greens will be advised to run a very independent, determined, resourceful and convincing campaign themselves, to represent the interests and expectations of those that would not feel at home on the right or right of centre, and who disagree with Labour.

    I take note that Labour continues to be extremely silent on welfare matters too, and anything coming from Moroney and others, it is always about “the jobs not being there”, and more jobs being needed, and other aspects of employment. There is little comment on the way sick, disabled, solo parents and so get ushered into work now under this government, and if there is a mention, it is all about “fairness” but not about the drive and the supposed “evidence” what the policies are based on.

    My view is that Cunliffe wants to get as many votes as possible, so he will in his coming speech be “broad” and “inclusive”, not talk to much on specifics, and we are generally getting more of the same of what Labour stood for in the last 2 elections, just worded and presented smarter and better, and with slightly changed policies, to appeal to more of the wider public.

    Hence, due to my particular concerns and expectations, I will not be convinced by Labour, and will most likely vote Greens, who need now ideally 15 to 20 per cent of the votes, to make sure Labour will honour the more social and environmental policy promises that they may make and want to fight the election with. That is of course in view of the fact, that the Greens are the only logical “partner” for Labour in government. I will not be surprised if the Greens will now want to become even more “independent”, and open up to other political alliances, as in some European countries.

    Also would I not be surprised, that if the Greens become too much “out of line” for Labour, we may even get a “Grand Coalition”, as they have in Germany, with or without Cunliffe leading Labour into that. I would dread this the most. But this will surely be the most interesting election in decades.

  14. Poission 14

    The party’s policy platform places an emphasis on addressing climate change. An “all gases all sectors” ETS free from subsidies to greenhouse gas polluters is supported

    So they are supporting existing government policy IE The removal of fossil fuel subsidies which the IEA suggest will by 2020

    i)slash growth in energy demand by 4.1%
    ii)reduce growth in oil demand by 3.7mb/d
    iii)cut growth in CO2 emissions by 1.7 G

    https://www.iea.org/media/weowebsite/energysubsidies/ff_subsidies_slides.pdf

    NZ is a party to the Friends of Fossil Fuel Subsidy Reform which are lobbying for the changes,and if implemented are equal to the total energy consumption of Japan,Korea and NZ.

    http://www.mfat.govt.nz/fffsr/

    An argument that nothing has been implemented from a policy perspective is incorrect.

    • Jenny 14.1

      Words are cheap

      Unfortunately Poisson neither link you provided addressed or challenged or even mentioned the biggest ever fossil fuel subsidy ever given in this country’s history.

      The $155million bail out made up of gifts and loans given by the government to prop up Solid Energy.

      Nore does it mention the $60 odd million of tax payers money given to the Deep Sea oil Drillers to entice them here.

  15. Jenny 15

    “My view is that Cunliffe wants to get as many votes as possible, so he will in his coming speech be “broad” and “inclusive”, not talk to much on specifics, and we are generally getting more of the same of what Labour stood for in the last 2 elections, just worded and presented smarter and better, and with slightly changed policies, to appeal to more of the wider public.”
    xtasy

    Deep sea oil drilling is one of these polices that “we are generally getting more of the same of”, “just worded and presented smarter and better, and with slightly changed policies, to appeal to more of the wider public.”

    Labour says views on mining close to Govt’s
    NZ Herald July 27, 2012

    Labour’s finance spokesman, David Parker, says his party’s policies on oil, gas and mineral extraction are close to those of the Government.

    “I don’t think we are much different from National,” Parker said. “They’ve continued on with the programme that we started in respect to oil and gas,”

  16. Not a PS Staffer 16

    I hope that oil is discovered by Anadarko and that a safe production regime is implemented.

    The New Zealand people deserve the good fortune that a major oil find will bring. It could go some ways to improving incomes, funding pensions from 65 (not 67!) improving education and re-shaping our economy.

    All of the oil wells in New Zealand require pumping to release the oil. The BP/Anadarko well in the Gulf had positive pressure and thus spewed when the capping mechanism failed. It should not be compared to the know NZ wells.

    • Bill 16.1

      Do you not think the positive pressure might have had something to do with the depth? I mean, I don’t know and am just guessing here. Maybe someone with some relevant knowledge is around…?

    • freedom 16.2

      Yes Taranaki has been operating for decades with a fair safety record, thankfully very few incidents and no major spill. However, these new wells are not only hitting staggering new depths but doing so in largely unknown environments that have not had any previous drilling. The list of unknowns is as long as your arm and if you spend three seconds engaging your brain you would see the current permit process and the explorations already under way are nothing short of corrupt in their disdain for due process and common sense. Let alone their total failure as examples of good governance.

      To continue oil explorations off our coastline without immediate access to and complete control of all emergency spill response equipment is ecologically risky, fiscally negligent and just f’n stupid.

  17. Not a PS Staffer 17

    The line peddled by the Greens, that enough oil has been discovered to date to satisfy world needs and there we should not look for any in NZ, does not work with me.

    As a Kiwi worker I’d like to see oil production related jobs happen here rather than in Murmansk or Aberdeen.

    As a Kiwi taxpayer I’d like to see the royalty incomes flow here in Godzone rather than to the Kremlin gangsters or the Norwegian taxpayers.

    As a Kiwi parent I’d like to see royalty income transform our economy so that we have the nation that we want.

    Cunliffe is 100% right to back more exploration.

    • toad 17.1

      NaPSS, Do you envision any scenario under which we transition from fossil fuel dependency to renewable energy sources before the cost of extracting fossil fuels makes it uneconomic to continue to do so and/or before the emissions from burning it cause the planet to fry?

      If so, why not start doing it now, and set an example for the rest of the world, rather than be in for the quick buck. We can get earnings and jobs from developing and exporting renewable energy technology rather than join the race to the bottom in gobbling up what is left of the planet’s fossil fuel reserves in denial of the impending climate catastrophe.

  18. Not a PS Staffer 18

    “Set an example for the rest of the world”by not going after oil revenue?

    No Way!

    I’m not going to tell the 250,000 kids who go to bed hungry that they should feel better about it because some people like the feeling of setting an example to the rest of the world.

    • freedom 18.1

      i thought it was avarice, seems i was wrong

      Not drilling causes child poverty !! ROFLMAO

  19. Tim O'Shea 19

    “Labour had always been clear about its position” – sorry, but that’s a joke. How many times have people been asking for clarity from Labour on its position on deep sea drilling ?? The silence has been deafening !

    And now, to confirm my worst fears, it looks like National Lite is alive and kicking. Am I the only person that rememberd the recent F’ing referendum results?? Two thirds opposed. That’s 66%, boys and girls! Does anyone really think that the majority of these voters weren’t on the left rather than right? How is supporting deep sea drilling going to win votes for labour??

    Can someone please explain to me how “three fifths of Feck all” of oil revenue is going to help our 250,000 kids living in poverty. What benefit are they getting from current oil revenues ffs ?

    I have been red all my life. Today I am red with anger, disappointment and exasperation. This is not the right road! Kick Goff and Jones in to touch and veer left, or its goodbye to the Labour Party and hello to a strong Green party in opposition under another Tory government.

Links to post

Recent Comments

Recent Posts

  • You can’t always get what you want
    Grant Robertson is leaving Parliament for two new careers, having been frustrated and blocked from achieving some of his biggest political ambitions. So, he is returning to Dunedin, and, unusually for a former finance minister, with seemingly no ambitions to enter the business world. Instead, he will become Vice Chancellor ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    23 mins ago
  • At a glance – Was Greenland really green in the past?
    On February 14, 2023 we announced our Rebuttal Update Project. This included an ask for feedback about the added "At a glance" section in the updated basic rebuttal versions. This weekly blog post series highlights this new section of one of the updated basic rebuttal versions and serves as a ...
    9 hours ago
  • Sharp-elbowed and loving it
    It doesn't seem to take a lot to persuade someone who feels they work their guts out that in fact no one is working as hard as me.It doesn't seem to take a lot to persuade someone who knows somebody taking the welfare system for a ride that they’re all ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    13 hours ago
  • Sharp-elbowed and loving it
    It doesn't seem to take a lot to persuade someone who feels they work their guts out that in fact no one is working as hard as me.It doesn't seem to take a lot to persuade someone who knows somebody taking the welfare system for a ride that they’re all ...
    More than a fieldingBy David Slack
    13 hours ago
  • Then why did she do it?
    Earlier in the month, Cancer Minister Casey Costello was caught lying to the media about whether or not she had requested advice on cutting tobacco excise tax to benefit the cancer industry. She repeated her lies in Parliament. But today, she stood up and pretended to apologise for "causing confusion" ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    13 hours ago
  • Is Applying “Tough Love” To A “Fragile” Nation The Right Answer?
    The Question Christopher Luxon Needs To Ask –  And Answer: How was it possible for a nation of barely three million citizens to create and maintain an infrastructure that functioned, schools and universities that turned out well-educated and enterprising citizens, a health system that kept its people healthy, and a workforce ...
    14 hours ago
  • The limits to realism.
    Realism is a school of thought in the field of international relations (IR). It provides a theoretical framework for analysing the behaviour of States in the world political system. Like other theories (which in the IR literature include idealism, liberalism, … Continue reading ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    14 hours ago
  • UNSOCIAL MEDIA – Following the Trolls
    From TODAY FM archives — Wilhelmina Shrimpton and Simon Morrow take a deep dive into trolling and cyberbullying. From the high profile to the general public, Kiwis across all walks of life are being targeted, and some are paying the ultimate price. So what drives us to troll, who is ...
    The PaepaeBy Peter Aranyi
    14 hours ago
  • Govt prescribes stiff medicine for some beneficiaries while easing access to drugs containing pseudo...
    Buzz from the Beehive One of two new announcements on the government’s official website  – given plenty of publicity by the mainstream media over the past 24 hours – has been pitched as the first steps in a “reset” of the welfare system.  Stiff medicine for beneficiaries, in effect. The ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    16 hours ago
  • We’re not as fragile or as lazy as Luxon says
    Luxon says his government is one that is “prepared to make those hard decisions”. File Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has adopted the language of Ruth Richardson before her 1991 ‘Mother of All Budgets’ in arguing for benefit sanctions to bolster the Government finances, which ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    17 hours ago
  • Talking over the Silence.
    Please open the doorNothing is different, we've been here beforePacing these hallsTrying to talk over the silenceIf I was to describe what I do, or at least the way it sometimes feels, then talking over the silence wouldn’t be a bad way to do so.Not that there aren’t other voices ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    18 hours ago
  • LINDSAY MITCHELL: National needs to go further
    Lindsay Mitchell writes – In today’s State of the Nation speech Christopher Luxon talked repeatedly about getting young people off welfare. It seems that National has devised a traffic light system which will use increasing levels of sanctions – welfare deductions – when beneficiaries fail to meet their ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    19 hours ago
  • Gordon Campbell on National spreading panic about the economy
    It is a political strategy as old as time. Scare the public with tales of disaster and stampede them into supporting your ideological agenda because they believe There Is No Alternative. Yet, if the NZ economy truly is as “fragile” as PM Christopher Luxon says it is… Then how come ...
    21 hours ago
  • The promise of passive house design
    This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections by Sarah Wesseler Imagine a home so efficient that it could be heated with a hair dryer. That’s the promise of a passive house, a design standard that’s becoming increasingly popular in the architecture community for its benefits to occupants and the climate. ...
    21 hours ago
  • Deep in the Uncanny Valley of AI
    Hi,Before we get started, some very big fun Webworm news. I am launching a new journalism fund called Big Worm Farm!A really great thing that’s happened with Webworm over the last four years is that it’s grown. That’s great for a few reasons.Firstly — it means the work here gets ...
    David FarrierBy David Farrier
    22 hours ago
  • Introducing: Big Worm Farm
    Hi,I’m excited to tell you about Big Worm Farm.Put simply, the main aim of Big Worm Farm is to support investigative journalists from around the world to be able to devote dedicated time to research and report on a specific story, to be published on Webworm.The stories will capture the ...
    David FarrierBy David Farrier
    23 hours ago
  • Why Massey is broke
    The Tertiary Education Commission has named the two universities it says are at high risk financially. They are Massey and Victoria. The Commission appeared before Parliament’s Education Select Committee yesterday and offered a revealing and rare insight into the complex world of university economics. Its Briefing to the Incoming Minister ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    1 day ago
  • You keep Luxin' when you oughta be thruthin'
    Christopher Luxon’s campaign to win last year's election continued yesterday with a speech.Channelling possibly Bruce Willis in Die Hard, he was all, I'm not going to dress it up, I'm going to level with you guys: the state of the nation is fragile.The thing he’s maybe missing is that it ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    2 days ago
  • The PM spoke of the need for tough choices – and then opted to beat a retreat when gays and Gaza a...
    Buzz from the Beehive The PM’s State of the Nation speech – according to a Newshub headline – was a ‘buffet of buzzwords’ and full of ‘nonsense’. Fair to say, the quoted words were attributed to Opposition politicians, who were unlikely to say the speech was visionary and inspiring: PM ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    2 days ago
  • Keynesian Wisdom.
    When the facts change, I change my mind - what do you do, sir?John Maynard Keynes (1883-1946)This posting is exclusive to Bowalley Road. ...
    2 days ago
  • BRIAN EASTON: Puffing policy
    Public policy towards tobacco consumption remains politically sensitive. Brian Easton writes – In 1983, a young researcher was told by a medium-level Treasury official that Treasury policy was to abandon excise duties on tobacco. The senior Treasury economist that I consulted, famed for his commonsense, snorted ‘we ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago
  • Is 2.8% per year population growth too much?
    TL;DR: The Government is reviewing migration settings that produced 2.8% population growth last year and is looking at a longer-term strategy of matching population growth to the ‘absorbtive capacity’ of Aotearoa-NZ’s infrastructure.Our population grew last year at its fastest rate since 1947, when large numbers of troops returning from World ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago
  • Tough Choices & Tough Love.
    I've been trying to hurt youI've been holding you tightI've been learning to love youAm I doing it right?How are you still breathingWith my hands all over your heart?How do we start healingIf we can't keep out the dark?Yesterday the Prime Minister delivered his State of the Nation, for no ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    2 days ago
  • Will the 2024 RLTP be yet another debacle?
    A couple of years ago, Auckland Council and Auckland Transport found themselves in court over the 2021 Regional Land Transport Plan (RLTP). A non-profit alliance for transport decarbonisation, All Aboard Aotearoa, argued that among other factors, the RLTP was unlawful because it failed to give effect to the 2021 Government ...
    2 days ago
  • 2024 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #07
    A listing of 31 news and opinion articles we found interesting and shared on social media during the past week: Sun, Feb 11, 2024 thru Sat, Feb 17, 2024. Story of the week Based on mission alignment, our Story of the Week is certainly Can we be inoculated against climate ...
    2 days ago
  • Immigration Issues.
    Help is comingI heard a whisperWhite caps turningThe breath of summerA distant drummingAnd liar birds callingEscape the anguish of our pastAnd prayOne of the major challenges of the the 21st century will be the mass migration of human beings around our globe.Some seeking economic opportunities, others fleeing repressive regimes, war ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago
  • Trust us, we know what we’re doing
    The best trick the National Party ever pulled was to fabricate their reputation as the responsible ones.This would be the National Party that denied us the New Zealand Superannuation Scheme that—Brian Gaynor wrote back in 2007would be worth more than $240 billion today and would have transformed the New Zealand ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    3 days ago
  • The Left’s Timidity
    It is not just Karl Marx – even the most enthusiastic supporters of the market economy (not least Adam Smith) will concede that its normal operation inevitably leads to a concentration of wealth in relatively few hands. Some, at least, of these enthusiasts will accept that such a concentration is ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    4 days ago
  • OLIVER HARTWICH: Absurd – NZ courts can now decide on climate change
    Oliver Hartwich writes – The World Justice Project ranks New Zealand 7th out of 142 countries on its ‘Rule of Law Index’, narrowly ahead of Australia’s 13th place. However, Australia still has hope – if only because of a recent decision by the Supreme Court of New Zealand. The ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago
  • Still waiting on that turnaround
    Hello! Here comes the Saturday edition of More Than A Feilding, catching you up on the past week’s editions.Friday: Week in review, quiz style2. Shane Jones’ demeanour in mocking and deriding climate activists can be observed in what other realm of human behaviour?a. Gleeful little boys pulling wings off fliesb. ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    4 days ago
  • Mihi Forbes and the great Atlas conspiracy
    Graham Adams writes — Last week, Mihingarangi Forbes made an extraordinary claim while interviewing David Seymour on Mata Reports, a taxpayer-funded current affairs programme which, she says, looks at events through an “indigenous lens”. She asked him about Act’s links to the Atlas Network, which fosters connections between centre-right ...
    Point of OrderBy gadams1000
    4 days ago
  • Puffing Policy
    Public policy towards tobacco consumption remains politically sensitive. In 1983, a young researcher was told by a medium-level Treasury official that Treasury policy was to abandon excise duties on tobacco. The senior Treasury economist that I consulted, famed for his commonsense, snorted ‘we need the money’. He explained that no-excise-duty ...
    PunditBy Brian Easton
    4 days ago
  • Luxon is one of three prime ministers pressing for a ceasefire in Gaza – but the two-state solutio...
    Buzz from the Beehive Two days after hundreds of people rallied outside the New Zealand parliament and the US embassy in Wellington to protest against what they maintain is genocide in Gaza,  Prime Minister Chris Luxon joined with the Prime Ministers of Australia and Canada to express their  concerns that ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    5 days ago
  • All jellied up with possum grease
    1. Shane Jones, addressing the energy industry, called climate concern what?a. The only sane responseb. Undeniably valid c. Our last best hope d. A "religion" 2. Shane Jones’ demeanour in mocking and deriding climate activists can be observed in what other realm of human behaviour?a. Gleeful little boys pulling wings off fliesb. Gleeful ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    5 days ago
  • Equality comes to Greece
    The Greek Parliament has voted for marriage equality: Greece has become the first Christian Orthodox-majority country to legalise same-sex marriage. Same-sex couples will now also be legally allowed to adopt children after Thursday's 176-76 vote in parliament. Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis said the new law would "boldly abolish a ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • CHRIS TROTTER:  Iron in her soul.
      “Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.” – Friedrich Nietzsche   Chris Trotter writes – TELEVISION NEW ZEALAND is to be congratulated for inviting Chloe Swarbrick onto its Q+A current affairs show. The Green MP ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    5 days ago
  • The Hoon around the week to Feb 16
    Net emigration of New Zealanders overseas hit a record-high 47,000 in the 2023 year, which only partly offset net immigration of 173,000, which was dominated by arrivals from India, the Philippines and China with temporary work visas. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The five things that mattered in Aotearoa’s ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    5 days ago
  • Stop Whispering.
    There's nothing to sayAnd there's nothing to doStop whispering, start shoutingStop whispering, start shoutingYesterday our government surprised a few of us by standing up for something. It wasn’t for the benefit of people who own holiday homes and multiple investment properties. Neither were there any tobacco companies or fishing cartels ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    5 days ago
  • “I'm Not Keen on Whataboutism, But What About…”
    Hi,Not sure how your week is going, but I’ve had a pretty frustrating one. I’ve been trying to put my finger on it, and I think it’s perhaps distilled in this message I got on Twitter:What got me a bit riled up is that it was a response to the ...
    David FarrierBy David Farrier
    5 days ago
  • Gordon Campbell on National passing bad policies under urgency
    If National really had faith in its welfare policies, it wouldn’t be ramming them through Parliament under urgency – a step that means the policies can’t be exposed to select committee debate, public submissions, expert commentary, media scrutiny and all the normal democratic processes that this coalition appears to hold ...
    5 days ago
  • Weekly Roundup 16-February-2024
    It’s Friday so once again here”s our roundup of some of the articles that caught our attention this week. This Week in Greater Auckland On Monday Matt looked at the Government’s war on Auckland. On Tuesday Matt covered the ongoing issues with the rail network. On Thursday Matt ...
    Greater AucklandBy Greater Auckland
    5 days ago
  • The Dawn Chorus for Friday, February 16
    The six things to note in my view at 6.30 am on Friday, February 16 in Aotearoa-NZ’s political economy are: Read more ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    5 days ago
  • Iron In Her Soul.
    “Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.” – Friedrich NietzscheTELEVISION NEW ZEALAND is to be congratulated for inviting Chloe Swarbrick onto its Q+A current affairs show. The Green MP for Auckland Central is the odds-on ...
    5 days ago
  • Dig this
    Resources Minister Shane Jones yesterday told a breakfast hosted by Energy Resources Aotearoa precisely what they wanted to hear. “We campaigned to rehabilitate relegitimise and stand up for working families who derive their income,  derive their hope and derive purpose in regional New Zealand through a flourishing, growing, forward-leaning energy ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    5 days ago
  • Skeptical Science New Research for Week #7 2024
    Open access notables Physics-based early warning signal shows that AMOC is on tipping course, van Westen et al., Science Advances: Here, we show results of the first tipping event in the Community Earth System Model, including the large climate impacts of the collapse. Using these results, we develop a physics-based and ...
    5 days ago
  • A rejection of the rule of law
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Shrugging-Off The Atlas Network.
    Upholding The Status-Quo: The Left’s election defeat is not the work of the Atlas Network. It is not even the work of David Seymour and Act. It is the work of ordinary citizens who liked the Right’s stories better than they liked the Left’s. If the Right’s stories were made ...
    6 days ago
  • BARRIE SAUNDERS: Treaty Principles – all rather problematic
    Barrie Saunders writes – When ACT’s leader said they wanted legislation to state what the Treaty principles mean, my first thought was this will be controversial and divisive.  Clearly it is. The first reference to the principles of the Treaty were contained in the 1975 Act establishing the Treaty of ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    6 days ago
  • Luxon Rejects The “Rejection Election” At His Peril.
    Fitting Right In: National retailed a reactionary manifesto of right-wing, racially-charged policies to the electorate throughout 2023. No talk back then of ignoring the overwhelming political preferences of the voting public and making a strong stand on principle. If Luxon’s pollsters and focus-groups were telling him that the public was ...
    6 days ago
  • Valentine’s Day went unnoticed on the Beehive website – but it is not “baa, humbug” to celeb...
    Buzz from the Beehive None of our ministers – a quick check with the Beehive website suggests – found cause to mention, let along celebrate, Valentine’s Day. But two ministers – Agriculture Minister Todd McClay and Rural Communities Minister Mark Patterson – ensured that National Lamb Day did not pass ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    6 days ago
  • Are You A Leftist?
    Nothing To Lose But Our Chains: The emancipatory movement which the Left, understood correctly, has always been, cannot accommodate those who are only able to celebrate one group’s freedom by taking it from another. The expectation, always, among leftists, is that liberty enlarges us. That striking-off a person’s shackles not ...
    6 days ago
  • An unlawful directive
    An interesting question in the Parliamentary written questions feed today, from Jan Tinetti to the Minister of Education: Has she or her Office directed the Ministry of Education to not release Official Information Act material prior to the full twenty working days, if so, why? Given that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • I’ve been doing this all wrong
    Here are six words that are not easy to say but god it can feel good when you finally say them:I’ve been doing this all wrongFive years ago today I said to myself:What if I'm doing this all wrong?Five years ago today I said to Karren: I think I’m going to ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    6 days ago
  • New study suggests the Atlantic overturning circulation AMOC “is on tipping course”
    This is a re-post from RealClimate by Stefan Rahmstorf A new paper was published in Science Advances today. Its title says what it is about: “Physics-based early warning signal shows that AMOC is on tipping course.” The study follows one by Danish colleagues which made headlines last July, likewise looking for early warning signals ...
    6 days ago
  • Valentines from ACT.
    Some of us make a big deal out of Valentine’s Day. We’ll buy the flowers, eye watering though the price spike might be. Say the things we should be saying anyway, although diminished by being scheduled for delivery. Some of us will even write long free-form newsletters with declarations of ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    6 days ago
  • Tax cuts paid for by 13k more kids in poverty
    MSD advised the government that the indexation change it passed under urgency last night is likely to put around 7,000 extra children (and potentially up to 13,000) into poverty. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The Government has reverted indexation for main beneficiaries to price inflation from wage inflation under ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    6 days ago
  • Fuel Tax Fight and Rail Fail update
    The two stories we covered at the start of the week continue to be in the headlines so it’s worth looking at the latest for each of them. Regional Fuel Tax Mayor Wayne Brown promised some ‘argy-bargy’ over the government’s decision to cancel the Regional Fuel Tax and he’s ...
    6 days ago
  • Climate Change: Arsonists
    Today, a major fire broke out on the Port Hills in Ōtutahi. Like its 2017 predecessors, it is almost certainly exacerbated by climate change. And it is still burning. The present government did not start the fire. But they piled the tinder high last time they were in power, gutting ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • I don’t know!
    http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/73411 7 examples And who actually makes the decisions? Vladimir Putin: I don’t know. America is a complex country, conservative on the one hand, rapidly changing on the other. It’s not easy for us to sort it all out.   Tucker Carlson: Do you think Zelensky has the freedom to negotiate the settlement to this conflict? Vladimir Putin: I don’t know the details, of course it’s difficult for me to judge, but ...
    7 days ago
  • Fresh thinkers
    Fresh thinking will always give you hope.It might be the kind that makes you smite your brow, exclaiming: Why didn't we think of that! It's obvious!It might be the kind that makes you go: Dude you’re a genius.Sometimes it will simply be Wayne Brown handing Simeon Brown his weasel ass ...
    More than a fieldingBy David Slack
    7 days ago
  • It is not about age, it is about team.
    Much attention has been directed at Joe Biden’s mental lapses and physical frailty. Less attention has been spent on Donald Trump’s cognitive difficulties and physical limitations, with most focus being devoted to his insults and exaggerated claims (as if they … Continue reading ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    7 days ago
  • ROBERT MacCULLOCH: Fletcher Building – it is time to break up NZ’s most useless company.
    Robert MacCulloch writes –  Gosh, the CEO of Fletcher Building, Ross Taylor, says today’s announcement of a half-year loss of $120 million for the company is “disappointing” and was “heavily impacted” by the Convention Centre losses. He must be crying all the way to the bank (to quote Las ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    7 days ago
  • Mortgage rates seen high for even longer
    Government and borrower hopes for early mortgage cost relief look likely to be thwarted. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: Stronger-than-expected US inflation data out overnight is expected to delay the first US Federal Reserve rate cut into the second half of 2024, which in turn would hold mortgage rates ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    7 days ago
  • Member’s Day
    Today is a Member's Day, the first of the new Parliament. And to start the Parliament off, there's a bunch of first readings. A bunch of other bills have been postponed, so first up is Duncan Webb's District Court (Protecting Judgment Debtors on Main Benefit) Amendment Bill, followed by Katie ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Three Waters go down the legislative gurgler – but what should we make of Local Water Done Well?
    Buzz from the Beehive Local Government Minister Simeon Brown – it seems fair to suppose – was flushed with success after the repeal of Labour’s divisive and unpopular Three Waters legislation. As he explained, repealing this legislation is a necessary first step in implementing his government’s Local Water Done Well ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    7 days ago
  • Gordon Campbell on five of Luxon’s Gaza absurdities
    Earlier this week, PM Christopher Luxon met with 48 public service CEOs to make sure they were on board with his plans to cut spending on public services so that National can proceed to give the revenue away to those New Zealanders least in need. This wasn’t the only absurdity ...
    7 days ago
  • Love and the Fairer Sex.
    This morning I woke early with many thoughts in my head of things said, events of the week, things that matter. I’m afraid none of them involved Seymour, Willis, or Luxon so if you’re looking for something political maybe take the day off and come back tomorrow. You won’t find ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    7 days ago
  • He stood up to Muldoon and Lange and the Fji army
    Gerald Hensley, who died aged 88 on Saturday, was the key official who presided over the tumultuous events that followed the election of the Lange Labour Government in 1984. He was also instrumental in helping a key Fijian official escape the country during one of the 1987 coups. A diplomat ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    1 week ago
  • At a glance – Has Arctic sea ice returned to normal?
    On February 14, 2023 we announced our Rebuttal Update Project. This included an ask for feedback about the added "At a glance" section in the updated basic rebuttal versions. This weekly blog post series highlights this new section of one of the updated basic rebuttal versions and serves as a ...
    1 week ago
  • Halo dunia!
    Selamt datang di WordPress. Ini adalah pos pertama Anda. Sunting atau hapus, kemudian mulai menulis! ...
    1 week ago
  • The PM wants a turnaround
    As a treat today I have lined up a favourite in the music slot. I love Turnaround, I cannot hear it too often, and I feel in need of a treat when I make myself listen to the Prime Minister the way I did this morning.He too, has favourites that ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    1 week ago
  • The PM wants a turnaround
    As a treat today I have lined up a favourite in the music slot. I love Turnaround, I cannot hear it too often, and I feel in need of a treat when I make myself listen to the Prime Minister the way I did this morning.He too, has favourites that ...
    More than a fieldingBy David Slack
    1 week ago
  • ELE LUDEMANN: Trusting locals
    Ele Ludemann writes- A government-knows-best and predilection for central control was another unfortunate feature of the 2017-2023 Labour governments. One of the worst polices as a result of that was what started as Three Waters and became several more. The National-led government is much more trusting of locals ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    1 week ago
  • Legislation to flush away Three Waters has become a certainty – but we must wait for details on th...
    Buzz from the Beehive A  three-day information drought was broken, just after Point of Order published yesterday’s Buzz from the Beehive, and two significant ministerial announcements were made. First, the Budget will be delivered on 30 May, telling us which genuine savings have been made by eliminating waste and which ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    1 week ago
  • Rise of the Lobbyists.
    An unpopular opinion, I love Auckland.Not so much the transport or the house prices - those are pretty dire. But there’s a lot to like. We’ve a vibrant, multicultural city in a beautiful location with, mostly, friendly locals. From the native bush of the Waitakeres to the Gulf islands, it’s ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    1 week ago

  • Greater support for social workers
    The Coalition Government is enhancing the professionalism of the social work sector and supporting the vulnerable people who rely on them, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says.  The Social Workers Registration Legislation Amendment Bill passed its third reading in Parliament today. It amends the Social Workers Registration Legislation ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    11 hours ago
  • Government delivers greater freedom and choice for sick New Zealanders
    The coalition government is delivering on its commitment to making principled decisions by getting rid of red tape that doesn’t make sense and allowing sick New Zealanders greater freedom and choice to purchase effective cold and flu medicines. A bill amending the Misuse of Drugs Act 1975 is being introduced, and changes to the Medicines ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    18 hours ago
  • Government begins reset of welfare system
    The Coalition Government is taking early action to curb the surge in welfare dependency that occurred under the previous government by setting out its expectations around employment and the use of benefit sanctions, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. In 2017, 60,588 sanctions were applied to beneficiaries who ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • State of the Nation
    Ka nui te mihi kia koutou. Kia ora, good morning, talofa, malo e lelei, bula vinaka, da jia hao, namaste, sat sri akal, assalamu alaikum. Thank you for coming to my first State of the Nation as Prime Minister. Thank you for coming to a speech where I don’t just ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • West Coast tourism attractions officially open
    Regional Development Minister Shane Jones will attend the official opening of two highly anticipated tourism projects on the West Coast today – Pike29 Memorial Track, dedicated to the memory of the Pike River miners, and Pounamu Pathway. “The Pike29 Memorial Track is a way to remember and honour the men ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Independent ferry service advisory group in place
    Appointments to the Ministerial Advisory Group tasked with providing independent advice and assurance on the future of KiwiRail’s inter-island ferry service have been made, State Owned Enterprises Minister Paul Goldsmith says. “It’s important for New Zealand that KiwiRail is focused on ensuring safe, resilient, and reliable ferry services over the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Joint statement from the Prime Ministers of Australia, Canada, and New Zealand
    The Prime Ministers of Australia, Canada and New Zealand today issued the following statement on reports of Israel’s planned military operation in Rafah. We are gravely concerned by indications that Israel is planning a ground offensive into Rafah.   A military operation into Rafah would be catastrophic. About 1.5 million Palestinians ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Govt will deliver on expanded breast screening
    The coalition Government has made the first steps in delivering on its promise to  extend free breast screening to women aged 70-74, Health Minister Shane Reti says. “As part of the 100 day plan, the Government has now met with officials and discussed what is needed in order for the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Government announces woolshed roadshows in support of sheep farmers
    The Government celebrates National Lamb Day (15 February 24) and congratulates sheep farmers on the high-quality products they continue to produce. Agriculture Minister McClay hosted bipartisan celebrations of National Lamb Day with industry representatives at Parliament this week to mark the anniversary of the first frozen lamb exports that left ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Speech: Address to the NZ Economics Forum
    It’s great to be back at the New Zealand Economics Forum. I would like to acknowledge everyone here today for your expertise and contribution, especially the Pro Vice-Chancellor, Head of the Waikato Management School, economists, students and experts alike. A year has passed since I was last before you, and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Government tackling high construction costs
    The Government is focused on reducing sky-high construction costs to make it more affordable to build a home, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says.  Stats NZ data shows the cost of building a house has increased by 41 per cent since 2019, making housing even more unaffordable for Kiwi ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Labour’s Three Waters legislation repealed
    The Coalition Government’s legislative plan to address longstanding issues with local water infrastructure and service delivery took an important step today, with the repeal of Labour’s divisive and unpopular Three Waters legislation, Local Government Minister Simeon Brown says. “Repealing this legislation is a necessary first step in implementing our Local ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Cost of living support for beneficiary households
    The Coalition Government is delivering on its commitment to ease the cost-of-living by increasing main benefit rates in line with inflation and ensuring the Minimum Family Tax Credit threshold remains aligned with this change, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. The Social Security (Benefits Adjustment) and Income Tax ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Government announces agriculture delegations to better support Primary sector
    The coalition Government has announced ministerial delegations to support key areas across the Primary sector to deliver for New Zealand’s food and fibre sector, Agriculture Minister Todd McClay announced today. “I will be supported in my roles as Minister of Agriculture, Trade, Forestry and Hunting and Fishing, by three Associate ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Waikato MoU reinforces Govt’s commitment to increase NZ doctors
    The Government has taken an important step forward in addressing a critical shortage of New Zealand-trained doctors, with today’s signing of a Memorandum of Understanding for a third medical school, Minister of Health Dr Shane Reti has announced.  “Today’s signing by the Ministry of Health and the University of Waikato ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Speech – Lunar New Year 2024
    Annyeonghaseyo, greetings and welcome all. It is my pleasure as the Minister for Ethnic Communities to welcome you to the first Lunar New Year Event in Parliament. Thank you to our emcees for greeting us in the different languages that represent the many cultures that celebrate the Lunar New Year. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • More funding to Hawke’s Bay and Tairāwhiti
    Urgent work to clean-up cyclone-affected regions will continue, thanks to a $63 million boost from the Government for sediment and debris removal in Hawke’s Bay and Tairāwhiti.                                                                                                   The funding will help local councils continue urgent work removing and disposing of sediment and debris left from Cyclone Gabrielle.   “This additional ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Budget will be delivered on 30 May
    Plans to deliver tax relief to hard-working New Zealanders, rebuild business confidence and restore the Crown’s finances to order will be unveiled on 30 May, Finance Minister Nicola Willis says. The plans will be announced in the Budget which is currently being developed by Ministers.  “The last government’s mismanagement of ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Government advances Local Water Done Well
    The Coalition Government is continuing work to restore council ownership and control of water assets by repealing Three Waters and appointing a Technical Advisory Group to provide expert advice on the implementation of Local Water Done Well, Local Government Minister Simeon Brown says. “The Government will pass a bill to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • New diplomatic appointments
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has today announced five new diplomatic appointments.  "Strong and effective diplomacy to protect and advance our interests in the world is needed now more than ever," Mr Peters says.  “We are delighted to appoint senior diplomats from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade to these ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Speech to the Committee for Auckland
    It is great to be here today at this event as Minister for Auckland and Minister ofTransport. Let me start by acknowledging each one of you and thanking the Committee forAuckland for hosting this event and inviting me to speak here today. The Committee for Auckland has been a symbol ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Getting Transport Back on Track in Auckland
    Transport Minister Simeon Brown has today confirmed his high-level transport priorities for Auckland, in the lead up to releasing the draft Government Policy Statement on Land Transport. “Our economic growth and productivity are underpinned by a transport network that enables people and freight to move around safely and efficiently. At ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Government to axe Auckland Regional Fuel Tax
    Transport Minister Simeon Brown has confirmed that the Auckland Regional Fuel Tax will end on 30 June 2024. “Today, I can confirm that the Government has agreed to remove the Auckland Regional Fuel Tax in line with our coalition commitments, and legislation will be introduced to parliament to repeal the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Minister Calls for Work to Tackle Kina Barrens
    Changes to fishing rules and a significant science programme are being undertaken to address kina barrens, says Minister for Oceans and Fisheries Shane Jones. “There has been tremendous interest from iwi, communities and recreational fishers who had raised concerns about such kina infestations being a major threat to Northland’s marine ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Government law and order crackdown begins
    The coalition Government is making good on its promise to restore law and order by removing government funding for Section 27 reports and abolishing the previous Labour Government’s prison reduction target, Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith and Corrections Minister Mark Mitchell say.  “In recent years, the development of Section 27 reports ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Greater focus on getting people into work
    The coalition government will refocus employment efforts and the welfare system so that supporting people who can work into jobs is the number one priority, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. “Of concern in the labour market statistics released by Stats NZ today was the number of youth not ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • One year on, NZ appeals for release of Phillip Mehrtens
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has appealed to those holding New Zealand pilot Phillip Mehrtens in remote Papua, Indonesia, to release him immediately.  Phillip Mehrtens was taken hostage a year ago on 7 February in Paro, Papua, while providing vital air links and supplies to remote communities. “We strongly urge those holding ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Ministers reaffirm Pacific connections this week
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters and Health Minister and Minister for Pacific Peoples Dr Shane Reti are reaffirming the importance of New Zealand’s connections to the Pacific by visiting Tonga, Cook Islands and Samoa this week.  “New Zealand enjoys strong and long-standing relationships with our Pacific partners - especially in Polynesia, where we ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Rt Hon Christopher Luxon – Waitangi speech
    E ngā mana, e ngā reo, e ngā iwi, rau rangatira ma. Tēnā koutou katoa. He tino mihi ki te mana whenua o tēnei rohe.  Mihi mai, mihi mai, mihi mai. Te whare e tū nei, tēnā koe.                               He-wāhi whakahirahira tēnei mō Aotearoa. Ka huri nga whakaaro, ki nga mate. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Government awards primary sector scholarships to students
    Six university students studying agriculture and science have been awarded scholarships as part of the coalition Government’s efforts to boost on-the-ground support for farmers and growers. “The coalition Government is committed to improving support and operating conditions for farmers and growers,” Agriculture Minister Todd McClay says. “We’re backing a range ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • High Court Judge appointed
    Attorney-General Judith Collins today announced the appointment of Wellington Barrister Jason Scott McHerron as a High Court Judge. Justice McHerron graduated from the University of Otago with a BA in English literature in 1994 and an LLB in 1996. From 1996 to 1999 he worked as a solicitor in the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 weeks ago
  • New Zealand provides further humanitarian support to Gaza and the West Bank
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has announced that New Zealand is providing a further $5 million to respond to the extreme humanitarian need in Gaza and the West Bank.  “The impact of the Israel-Hamas conflict on civilians is absolutely appalling,” Mr Peters says.  “That is why New Zealand has contributed $15 ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 weeks ago
  • Government consults on expanding COVID-19 Inquiry terms of reference
    The Government is delivering on its commitment to enable public input into expanding the scope of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into COVID-19 Lessons, says Internal Affairs Minister Brooke van Velden. “As committed to in both the ACT-National and NZ First-National coalition agreements, the public will be given the opportunity ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 weeks ago
  • Tai Tokerau Water Boost
    A further $5 million loan has been advanced to the Tai Tokerau Water Trust for Te Waihekeora Reservoir, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says.  “Water is a precious resource, Kānoa – Regional Development and Investment Unit at the Ministry of Business, Innovation, and Employment have done amazing work in the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 weeks ago
  • Fast track consenting in the fast lane
    The Government is progressing changes to resource management laws as part of its 100 Day Action Plan, with the first steps taken to establish a new fast-track consenting one-stop shop regime. “This new regime, which forms part of National’s coalition agreement with New Zealand First, will improve the speed and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 weeks ago
  • JOINT STATEMENT ON AUSTRALIA-NEW ZEALAND MINISTERIAL CONSULTATIONS (ANZMIN) 2024
    Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Defence the Hon Richard Marles MP and Minister for Foreign Affairs Senator the Hon Penny Wong hosted New Zealand Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Foreign Affairs Rt Hon Winston Peters MP and Minister of Defence Hon Judith Collins KC MP on 1 February ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 weeks ago
  • Minimum wage set for cautious increase
    The adult minimum wage rate will increase by 2 per cent to $23.15 an hour from 1 April 2024, Workplace Relations and Safety Minister Brooke van Velden announced today. “This Government is committed to striking the right balance between protecting the incomes of our lowest paid workers and maintaining labour ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 weeks ago
  • Increased security improves ED safety over summer
    Increasing the number of security staff in emergency departments (EDs) over the busy Christmas and New Year period improved the safety of both staff and patients, Health Minister Dr Shane Reti says. 200 additional security staff (93 FTEs) were provided to 32 EDs in response to concerns raised by ED ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 weeks ago

Page generated in The Standard by Wordpress at 2024-02-20T16:22:55+00:00