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Fran O’Sullivan: in praise of central planning

Written By: - Date published: 10:54 am, August 4th, 2012 - 57 comments
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Has Fran O’Sullivan been replaced by a communist infiltrator? Today, she gushes over a central government plan to use emergency powers to appropriate land and bypass RMA property rights. She even suggests the Government could use such powers to redesign other CBDs according to its own grand plans. Next, she’ll be calling for a 5-year plan.

Or is it that this particular piece of central planning is being done to advance the interests of corporate property owners and developers?

57 comments on “Fran O’Sullivan: in praise of central planning”

  1. KJT 1

    One of the main distinguishing features of Neo-Liberals is that their principles are totally flexible.

    Except for one.

    Whatever enables them to take the most wealth from the rest of us.

    • Colonial Viper 1.1

      You can’t accuse them of taking their eyes of the goal.

      If only “Left” political parties were as consistent with bolstering the economic and political franchise of the struggling lowest income quartile of NZers, as the Right are with helping out the top decile.

  2. The capitalists never repudiated central state enforcement of their exploitative system.
    What are wars but class wars?
    Many of my generation were politicized by the War on Vietnam.
    Of course many have since changed sides.
    This (CERA) is the class war on the poor to grab more private property for capitalists. 
    They get away with it because there is only one army in the class war that is mobilised in NZ and that is the capitalist army. 
    When the Christchurch workers organise their army  beyond some scouting operations and take on General Brownlee we will get some traction.

  3. tc 3

    Wow NACT are proposing it so it must be a great idea, yet if this was any other gov’t than her idols she’d be screaming NANNY STATE like her and other sycophants like JA, etc were during Clark’s time.

    It’s sooo obvious and reduces what little credibility she has left. try and apply an objective intellect Fran if there’s any left.

  4. captain hook 4

    o’sullivan will just follow the money.
    she is just greedy.

    • mike 4.1

      That’s right, and look at our milk producers. All fanatical Naties and making their money from a collective!
      Next thing they’ll elect Stalin president of Fed Farmers and claim he’s Ronald Reagan

  5. vto 5

    Yes it has completely bemused me that those so vehemently pro-free market have trampled their big heavy jackboots into town and done the complete top-down centrally planned job.

    If ever there was an opportunity to prove its free market credentials, a clean slate Christchurch is it.

    But they have chosen with glee the top-down central planning.

    How would gosman see this? He never answers my questions

    • Draco T Bastard 5.1

      Yes it has completely bemused me that those so vehemently pro-free market have trampled their big heavy jackboots into town and done the complete top-down centrally planned job.

      The free-market rhetoric is just that – rhetoric. The people in power know that it’s just a plausible sounding explanation for them to get whatever they want. It’s not about giving people choice and power over their own lives but actually removing it from them and giving it to a few at the top.

      How would gosman see this?

      He’ll be as enthusiastic about it as O’Sullivan.

      • Georgecom 5.1.1

        Competition and property rights are fine, as long as its on the terms that favours money. Otherwise, competition and property rights can be ‘modified’ by actions of the state.

  6. Zaphod Beeblebrox 6

    Why do I keep thinking of ‘The Simpsons’ monorail episode?

  7. bad12 7

    Centrally planned Capitalism has a name beginning with F, 10 points for the correct answer…

    • Colonial Viper 7.1

      I see it more as crony capitalism, kleptocracy and corporatism currently, rather than full on F’ism.

      • Draco T Bastard 7.1.1

        CV, that’s what full on F’ism is. Don’t need the jackboots (although I’m sure NACT are in the planning stages of that as well).

        • Colonial Viper 7.1.1.1

          Probably my main point is that we preserve some relative levels of severity in our languaging. Full on F’ism we’re not at by a long way, at least in NZ. We’re not just missing the jackboots, but also an effective shut down of an independent judiciary/academia/fourth estate, state sanctioned thuggery and kidnappings, arbitrary confiscation of opponents’ assets, forceable suppression of political dissent etc.

          • bad12 7.1.1.1.1

            Yeah i agree, perhaps as pointed out below there are stages a society transits through to reach the full on F-ism,

            Corporatism might just be the stepping stone, when sections of the population begin to object strongly,(and other sections of that society begin to take notice),perhaps it is then the jackboots are donned and other means used to suppress the vocal minority’s…

    • Bill 7.2

      “F*scism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power”
      ― Benito Mussolini

      • saniac 7.2.1

        As my friend Gio is forever pointing out, “corporate” in that sentence is not about modern business corporations. It is an adjective applying to any organised body and in context Mussolini was saying that unions, guilds, societies, charities, and so on should be part of and under the control of the state.Corporatism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism) was a real thing at the time and doesn’t mean what you think.

        I share the belief that O’Sullivan is showing that her priniciples merely consist of simply advancing the interests of a small business elite at the expense of democracy, but this isn’t fascism, just plain old fashioned class warfare.

  8. muzza 8

    This is where people who deny that the world and indeed NZ is not, and has not been run by F’s all along, get a little window into reality.

    FOS along with those she kneels down to, and those who in turn they kneel down to etc, are simply the tools who are used in order to keep the peasants distracted and subdued.

    Capitalism and demoracy are simply a sham, and always have been!

    • Draco T Bastard 8.1

      Democracy isn’t, we’ve just never had it and those in power do their best to keep it from us. Hell, even people on the left use the same arguments as the dictators as to why we can’t have it.

      • ” we’ve just never had it [Democracy] and those in power do their best to keep it from us.”

        What fucking bullshit. NZ is a democracy and, not for the first time, I ask you Draco to find me anything that says different. And I don’t mean a blog or “some guy says” but any scholarly, considered and educated resource that considers NZ to be anything other than a parliamentary democracy.

        • Frank Macskasy 8.1.1.1

          Perhaps, TC, it’s not what structure a democracy follows, but whether people feel included in that process.

          One might conclude that the reason Labour did so poorly at the last election was a lack of sense of inclusiveness. Hence why Labour is re-assessing how it meets the needs of members and suppotrters.

          And hence why over a million fellow Kiwis couldn’t be bothered to vote.

          Just a thought.

          • TheContrarian 8.1.1.1.1

            So outside of your own personal musing is the anything you can cite that proclaims NZ to be anything other than a parliamentary democracy?

        • Draco T Bastard 8.1.1.2

          🙄

        • xtasy 8.1.1.3

          “What fucking bullshit. NZ is a democracy and, not for the first time, I ask you Draco to find me anything that says different.”

          ‘The Contrarian’:

          True democracy requires genuine ability to make informed decisions. Without an informing, balanced, not commercially dependent media, any “exercise” democratic expression, i.e. usually the 3-yearly casting of a vote, becomes a farce.

          NZ has abolished just about almost ALL non commercial, public or otherwise “balanced”, independent broadcasting, basically only has two large foreign owned, commercial corporates dominate the print media, and leaves only the internet, again with sadly mainly poor, commercially conditioned and even misinforming websites, than truly fact based, informative sites.

          Hence we have ministers of the Crown go around spreading lies, misinformation and not front up to serious scrutiny, allowing to manipulate the public at large, so that most are unable to make INFORMED decisions.

          Such a state of affairs is to me at least NOT true democracy, but rather a smartly designed, manipulating, dumbing down system that more and more resembles a sophisticated form of modern ‘dictatorship’.

          Add the over-use of over-bearing, rights restricting and at times even law ignoring police, and you have a very dicy situation, quite worrysome indeed.

  9. Robert M 9

    I’ve always thought that Fran O’Sullivan and almost all the herald writers were fairly left anyway. There have been many fairly radical conversions anyway like Gareth Morgan’s. They probably view it as conceeding to political reality. I disagree. The only chance for Christchurch after even the first earthquake was to allow the planning and control of the rebuild almost entirely in private hands, and to probably to start immediately in rebuilding the entertainment . bar and courtesan and commercial business headquarters anyway. What was magnificent about the old Christchurch was the all night relatively shophsiticated bars, the mind blowing blantant strip clubs, brothels and drunked Irish working class wakes that occured in warehouse bars down Manchester St.
    From the first moment after the earthquake in 2010, it was obvious that Christchurch would never be rebuilt in any worthwhile way- because it gave scope for the Andertonite factor and Medical School Cuban and Argentinian type communsits to impose their model of society- which assumes that the working class are too irresponsible and insticnt driven to experience any sort of pleasure or humanity. In other words the working class can’t be allowed booze, sex with pretty women or any other worthwhile pleasure. No one is more hull of hate for the working class than women like Lianne Daziel and Bradford and Mike Lee because the only purpose of the rail system in Auckland is to build high rise tower blocks where the working class males can be mangaged, controlled and systematically destroyed. Beyond that Daziel and her mates were about the greatest hypocrtes that ever lived because they believed in beauty- even as basic as KJemma Jamieson and sex was also what they lived for.
    In reality if Christchurch was to be rebuilt in any useful form , Dunne would have led it and NZ would have had a mild military dictatorship- otherwise any real freedom. The point in Germany in the 1930s would have been better to do it that way.
    Eventually I gave up on the American model myself because like Act people they destroyed. When they wouldn’t give Tiger, one of the greatest sexual freedom with white women- the Repulicans were beyond hope. And the contempt for Megan Fox, and that she had been so poorly educated showed the US was no longer worth much

    • Colonial Viper 9.1

      I’ve always thought that Fran O’Sullivan and almost all the herald writers were fairly left anyway.

      LOLOLOLOL sure mostly on the left margin of Ayn Rand

    • DH 9.2

      “I’ve always thought that Fran O’Sullivan and almost all the herald writers were fairly left anyway. ”

      Thanks for the laugh. The Herald does have a few token lefties but O’Sullivan ain’t one of ’em. She’s about as left as Atilla the Hun.

      • Colonial Viper 9.2.1

        This was also a brain addled hoot:

        From the first moment after the earthquake in 2010, it was obvious that Christchurch would never be rebuilt in any worthwhile way- because it gave scope for the Andertonite factor and Medical School Cuban and Argentinian type communsits to impose their model of society

        Didn’t Robert M hear that the great lefty Sir Gerry Brownlee is the one in charge of Christchurch?

    • Draco T Bastard 9.3

      Wow, a lot of words that manage to convey nothing except your idiocy and contempt for other people.

    • Jimmie 9.4

      Wow that must have been some quality weed bro…….keep it up!

  10. Left this little comment on the Comments Section,

    “Fran – you’re supporting centralised government planning?! Oh say it ain’t so! You’ve become a fan of the dreaded bogey, the “Nanny State”!!

    As for your comment; “What if other New Zealand cities – particularly Auckland – were given the tools so they too could follow Christchurch’s example and wipe the barriers that stymie economic growth?”

    Indeed. I am planning to build a fat-rending factory next door to your house. Now don’t you be going pulling any of the RMA-stuff on me, y’hear. After all, you’ll get used to the smell of stale tallow… and the wind will occassionally blow the other way…

    Ok, carry on.”

    Wonder if they post it?

    • Colonial Viper 10.1

      Crematoriums are good ones too. A nice fine layer of incinerated dead people on your washing, on your windows and all through your house.

      • Between a crematorium on one suide of her house, and my fat-rending plant on the other, she’ll be doing a little happy-dance at the “wiping the barriers that stymie economic growth”…

        Anyway, what’s a little dead-dust and tallow-“perfume” as opposed to improving our competitiveness with Kazakhstan?!

        Hmmm, am getting the hang of thios neo-liberal stuff. Just close down all concepts of community-intereest; ignore that prickly sensation of guilt; cease all critical thinking… and Bob’s-your-Aunty!! Woohoo!

        (And just to make sure I’m not totally heartless about it, Fran can have all the tallow she and her family can eat. What a jolly good chap I am!)

        😀

        • Colonial Viper 10.1.1.1

          (And just to make sure I’m not totally heartless about it, Fran can have all the tallow she and her family can eat. What a jolly good chap I am!)

          Cut price funerals too 😛

        • Phil 10.1.1.2

          armh…… she doesn’t need any tallow.

  11. millsy 11

    Francesca O’Sullivan is all over the place with her political leanings.

    In the past her columns has swayed from endorsing unfettered free markets, and then she has endorsed hard core socialism. I think she once called for the creation of a state holding company like Temasek Holdings.

    • I reject all claims that Fran and I are one and the same. It’s a sheer couincidence we’re never seen together, at the same time…

    • tracey 11.2

      maybe she is beginning to judge issues on their merits rather than some political ideology?

  12. If there’s one thing the Christchurch re-build has shown to our Right Wing, Free Market, Minimalist State cuzzies is that with the State, Christchurch would be f****d.

    I wonder what our little goose-stepping, Key-kissing, mates are thinking, having to accept that the State is an integral part in reconstruction?

    Just as the State was an integral part in the initial building of this country?

    And that the “free market” is like a remora-fish stuck to the side of the State Whale? Where would the remora-fish be without the whale? On my plate, with a helping of chips and squid rings, I’m guessing…

  13. captain hook 13

    so is fran sullivan a whale, a squid, or a goose?

  14. CnrJoe 14

    I detest the hijjack of Chch assets as intended for a ‘rainy day’. Lies lies lies – these mutts are criminals in their perversion of history and the takeover of the present through lies lies lies. I’m drinking dilmah by the way.

  15. Nick 15

    “a central government plan to use emergency powers to appropriate land and bypass RMA property rights”

    RMA property rights? I think you may have unintentionally come up with the best oxymoron ever.

  16. North 16

    Oh she’s such a silly old chook that woman !

  17. tracey 17

    So basically the nats want govt out of business unless they determine itsgood for business.

    The rma is hated so much because it places economics on an even level with people and the environment and threatens the ridiculous premise that if money can be made it must be a good thing.

  18. vto 18

    I notice that nobody has come on here to answer the issue….. namely, where has the free market gone and why? Christchurch is the perfect template for the free market to show its credentials and how an amazing prosperous and brilliant city could arise from purely consumer demand.

    So come on free market, what’s the go?

    Where is Fran? Come on Fran, stand and explain.

    Or maybe gosman, or tsmithfield, or even Farrar.

    the silence is deafening

    they have outwitted themselves and stand bare and exposed in their failed ideologies.

  19. Fortran 19

    As a real Tax Payer I a not sure of where my money is going in the Christchurch resurrection, but it smells like one hell of a lot over the next 10 years.

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    3 days ago
  • Govt releases plan to revitalise wool sector
    A plan to revitalise New Zealand’s strong wool sector and set it on a new, more sustainable and profitable path was unveiled today by Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor. The newly-released report - Vision and Action for New Zealand’s Wool Sector - was developed by the Wool Industry Project Action Group ...
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    3 days ago
  • Funding for Predator Free Whangārei
    Community efforts to create a Predator Free Whangārei will receive a $6 million boost, Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones and Conservation Minister Eugenie Sage announced today. The new funding, through Government company Predator Free 2050 Ltd, will create around 12 jobs while enabling the complete removal of possums over ...
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    3 days ago
  • New Zealand to review relationship settings with Hong Kong
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters has announced that the New Zealand Government is reviewing the settings of its relationship with Hong Kong. “China’s decision to pass a new national security law for Hong Kong has fundamentally changed the environment for international engagement there,” Mr Peters said. “New Zealand remains deeply ...
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    4 days ago
  • Funding for Whangārei’s infrastructure projects revealed
    Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones has announced details of a multimillion-dollar investment in Whangārei for infrastructure projects that will help it recover from the economic fallout from the COVID-19 pandemic. More than 200 jobs are expected to be created through the $26 million investment from the Government’s rejuvenation package ...
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    4 days ago
  • Managed isolation and quarantine update
    Following a second incident in which a person escaped from a managed isolation facility, security is being enhanced, including more police presence onsite, Minister Megan Woods said. “The actions of some individuals who choose to break the very clear rules to stay within the facilities means that more resourcing is ...
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    4 days ago
  • Funding for Kaipara district community waste programmes
    Waste reduction and recycling programmes in Kaipara are set to get a boost with Associate Environment Minister Eugenie Sage today announcing a $361,447 grant from the Ministry for the Environment’s Waste Minimisation Fund (WMF) Sustainable Kaipara. “The new funding will allow Sustainable Kaipara to partner with local schools, kura, community ...
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    4 days ago
  • Government will support the people and economy of Southland
    The Government will support the Southland economy in the wake of multinational mining company Rio Tinto’s decision to follow through with its long signalled closure of the Tiwai Point aluminium smelter. “This day has unfortunately been on the cards for some time now, but nevertheless the final decision is a ...
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    4 days ago
  • New transformational tools for the Predator Free 2050 effort
    New tools being developed to help boost Aotearoa’s Predator Free 2050 effort were unveiled today by Minister of Conservation Eugenie Sage and Under Secretary for Regional Economic Development Fletcher Tabuteau. A new rat poison, a camera with predator recognition software to detect and report predators, a new predator lure and a ...
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    4 days ago
  • New Armoured vehicles for New Zealand Army
    The Coalition Government has approved the purchase of a fleet of Bushmaster vehicles to replace the New Zealand Army’s armoured Pinzgauers, Defence Minister Ron Mark has announced today. The new fleet of 43 Australian-designed and built Bushmaster NZ5.5 will provide better protection for personnel and improved carrying capacity. “The age ...
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    5 days ago
  • Community-led solutions to prevent family violence
    The Government’s three prevention frameworks to reduce family violence in Aotearoa were launched this week by Associate Minister for Social Development Poto Williams.   The frameworks were developed in partnership with communities around New Zealand, and build on the work the Government has already begun with its new family violence prevention ...
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    5 days ago
  • Govt confirms investment in better radiology and surgical services for Hawke’s Bay
    The Government is pleased to confirm funding for improvements to radiology and surgical services at Hawke's Bay DHB, Health Minister Chris Hipkins says.     "The Minister of Finance the Hon Grant Robertson and former Health Minister Dr David Clark approved funding for Hawke's Bay DHB’s redevelopment of their radiology facilities ...
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    5 days ago
  • Specialist alcohol and drug addiction services strengthened across New Zealand
    •    New funding for four beds at Napier’s Springhill Residential Addiction Centre •    A new managed withdrawal home and community service, and peer support before and after residential care at Tairāwhiti DHB  •    A co-ordinated network of withdrawal management services throughout the South Island •    Peer support in Rotorua and ...
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    5 days ago
  • Coastal Shipping Webinar
    Introduction, seafarers and POAL Good morning everyone, I am delighted to be online with you all today. Before I begin, I have to acknowledge that COVID-19 has disrupted the maritime sector on an unprecedented scale. The work of seafarers and the maritime industry is keeping many economies around the world ...
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    5 days ago
  • Support for resilient rail connection to the West Coast
    A $13 million investment from Government will create jobs and improve the resilience of the rail connection between Christchurch and the West Coast, Infrastructure Minister Shane Jones and Regional Economic Development Under-Secretary Fletcher Tabuteau say. The funding comes from the tagged contingency set aside in Budget 2020 for infrastructure projects ...
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    5 days ago
  • Major investment in safe drinking water
    The Government is investing $761 million to assist local government upgrade under-pressure water services across the country, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and Local Government Minister Nanaia Mahuta announced today.  The announcement was made at the site of the water bore that was found to be the source of the fatal ...
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    5 days ago
  • Supporting stranded seasonal workers to keep working with more flexible options
    Recognised Seasonal Employers and migrant seasonal workers stranded in New Zealand will be able to continue working and supporting themselves with more flexible hours and roles, says Immigration Minister Iain Lees-Galloway. The time-limited visa changes are: Stranded RSE workers will be able to work part-time (a minimum of 15 hours ...
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    5 days ago
  • Relief for temporary migrants, employers and New Zealanders who need work
    The Government is making immediate short-term changes to visa settings to support temporary migrants already onshore in New Zealand and their employers, while also ensuring New Zealanders needing work are prioritised, Immigration Minister Iain Lees-Galloway says. We are: Extending temporary work visas due to expire by the end of 2020 ...
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    6 days ago
  • Freshwater commissioners and fast-track consenting convenor appointed
    Professor Peter Skelton CNZM has been appointed as Chief Freshwater Commissioner and Alternate Environment Court Judge Craig James Thompson as Deputy Chief Freshwater Commissioner for the newly established Freshwater Planning Process (FPP). Environment Minister David Parker today also announced the appointment of Chief Environment Court Judge Laurie Newhook as the ...
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    6 days ago
  • Appointment of Judge of the High Court
    Auckland Queen’s Counsel Neil Campbell has been appointed a Judge of the High Court, Attorney‑General David Parker announced today. Justice Campbell graduated with a BCom and LLB (Hons) from the University of Auckland in 1992. He spent two years with Bell Gully Buddle Weir in Auckland before travelling to the United ...
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    6 days ago
  • Feedback sought – Commercial Film and Video Production Facilities
    The Associate Minister for Greater Christchurch Regeneration, Poto Williams, is seeking feedback on a proposal to better enable the development and operation of commercial film and video facilities in Christchurch. The Proposal, developed by Regenerate Christchurch in response to a request from Christchurch City Council, asks that powers under section ...
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    6 days ago
  • Govt launches bold primary sector plan to boost economic recovery
    The Government has launched a bold plan to boost primary sector export earnings by $44 billion over the next decade, while protecting the environment and growing jobs. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern today released Fit for a Better World – Accelerating our Economic Potential, a 10-year roadmap to unlock greater value ...
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    6 days ago
  • Wellbeing of whanau at heart of new hub
    A new approach to prevent family harm that encourages greater collaboration across government and community groups is being celebrated at the opening of a new facility in Auckland. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern today opened the Multi-Disciplinary Family Harm Prevention Hub Te Taanga Manawa in Lambie Road in Manukau. The facility ...
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    6 days ago
  • New Report on Auckland Port Relocation
    The Government has released a major new report on the options for relocating the Port of Auckland’s freight operations while deferring any decision on the issue. “That decision needs to be informed by policy analysis that is still to be completed. As a result it will be up to a ...
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    6 days ago
  • Dual place names for Te Pātaka-o-Rākaihautū / Banks Peninsula features
    The history of Rāpaki is being restored through the inclusion of te reo in thirteen official place names on Te Pātaka-o-Rākaihautū / Banks Peninsula and around Lyttelton Harbour/Whakaraupō, the Minister for Land Information, Eugenie Sage, announced today.   “I am pleased to approve the proposals from Te Hapū o Ngāti ...
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    6 days ago
  • Government and Air New Zealand agree to manage incoming bookings
    Bookings for seats on Air New Zealand flights into New Zealand will be managed in the short term to ensure the Government is able to safely place New Zealanders arriving home into a managed isolation or quarantine facility, says Housing Minister Megan Woods.  “Last week Air Commodore Darryn Webb and I ...
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    6 days ago
  • $80 million for sport recovery at all levels
    Grant Robertson has today announced the first major release of funding from the $265 million Sport Recovery Package announced at Budget 2020.  “Today we’re setting out how $80 million will be invested, with $54 million of that over the 2020/2021 financial year for organisations from community level through to elite ...
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    6 days ago
  • Keeping ACC levies steady until 2022
    The Government is maintaining current levy rates for the next 2 years, as part of a set of changes to help ease the financial pressures of COVID-19 providing certainty for businesses and New Zealanders, ACC Minister Iain Lees-Galloway says. “New Zealanders and businesses are facing unprecedented financial pressures as a ...
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    1 week ago
  • Extended loan scheme keeps business afloat
    Small businesses are getting greater certainty about access to finance with an extension to the interest-free cashflow loan scheme to the end of the year. The Small Business Cashflow Loan Scheme has already been extended once, to 24 July. Revenue and Small Business Minister Stuart Nash says it will be ...
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    1 week ago
  • New investment creates over 2000 jobs to clean up waterways
    A package of 23 projects across the country will clean up waterways and deliver over 2000 jobs Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and Environment Minister David Parker announced today. The $162 million dollar package will see 22 water clean-up projects put forward by local councils receiving $62 million and the Kaipara ...
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    1 week ago