Green Party “I’m in – for the future”

Written By: - Date published: 8:21 am, January 27th, 2013 - 109 comments
Categories: child welfare, climate change, Conservation, democratic participation, disaster, farming, greens, Maori Issues, Metiria Turei, poverty, sustainability, tenants' rights, vision - Tags:

Lately I have often disagreed with Matt McCarten.  However,  certainly agree with one part of his column today.  The column is largely about John Key’s fail at Ratana, plus his other struggles this week.  McCarten then says in contrast it was a good week for Labour and The Greens.  However, he saves the biggest praise for Metiria Turei at Ratana. McCarten wrote:

Green co-leader Metiria Turei was centre-stage. She had just released the Greens’ housing policy. Shearer moved the housing debate at his conference, promising to build 100,000 homes in partnership with the private sector.

Turei gazumped that by putting up a plan where even the poorest families could afford to buy state-built homes. The Ratanas loved it so much they ditched their male-only marae protocols to let her speak.

The Government responded by putting out a press release bleating about the price of the Greens’ policy. They obviously missed the news this week that New Zealand houses are among the most costly in the world, and most Kiwis will never be able to afford a home. Rentals, too, are rising faster than wages.

The Green Party housing policy does what a solid left or labour movement policy should do: give first consideration to those on low incomes (whether in paid or unpaid work, or on social security).  At it acknowledges that affordable and secure rental accommodation are every bit as important as affordability of home buying.    And it brings state housing into the mix.

I recently talked with someone who works with low income people looking for somewhere to live in Auckland.  The situation was described as desperate:  for low income people there is just nothing available, and many are looking to the outer rural edges of the greater city area.

At Ratana, Turei’s speech showed the down-to-earth, fun side of her personality, recalling her long  association with the Ratana, and her first kiss behind the bandstand there.  Turei also affirmed her whanau and community-centred commitment to ending poverty.

Eliminating poverty is not a matter for charity, it is an act of justice. And it starts with the basics.

I talk to too many whānau who have been forced to move homes too many times, who are trapped in a no win cycle of uprooting their kids, changing schools and starting again because they can’t afford to keep up with rent rises, or the home is so cold and mouldy it’s making their kids sick, and they can’t afford to buy one of their own.

The cost of groceries, power and school fees is so high that they barely manage to get through each day, let alone put money aside each week to save for the deposit on their own home. I know we can do better for our whānau.

This weekend, The Greens have also spoken for sustainable agricultural practices, in response to international news about contaminants in New Zealand milk.  The Greens agriculture spokesman, Steffan Browning, says that rather than focusing on the acceptable level of contaminants, Zealand should be looking to adopt more sustainable practices.

Today Metria Turei is launching an initiative to build a movement to oppose the Key government.

The I’m in – for the future campaign will be officially launched today during the state of the planet speech delivered by Green Party Co-leader Metiria Turei in Auckland.

“The Green Party is committed to giving New Zealanders a political voice and the opportunity to be involved in politics outside of elections and without having to join a party,” said Green Party Co-leader Metiria Turei.

“This is about building a ground campaign of individual New Zealanders who represent the future that will be a real challenge to the old wealth and vested interests of the National Party.

“More and more Kiwis are out of work, can’t afford to buy a home, are unhappy with the state of the environment or their kids education. This Government is offering those people nothing and is out of step with their world view.

Yesterday, the online, print version of Turei’s State of the Planet 2013 Speech states:

Today I want to issue a call to action to unleash the passion and the power of the new Aotearoa New Zealand, those who care for our children and their birthright.

There is much to do because our children face real challenges in this 21st century world.

Global Snapshot

The world faces the toughest challenges we have seen in a long time. The effects of the global financial crisis still echo around the world

Income inequality in OECD countries is at its highest level for the past 50 years.

The planet is suffering massive bio-diversity loss. Eco-systems are under more pressure than ever.

The hurt of climate change is biting. Extreme weather events, storms, cyclones, droughts and fires are getting worse.

I want to acknowledge the people of Samoa, Fiji and Australia who have suffered for extreme weather over this summer.

The people of the Pacific can realistically wonder if their islands will even exist in a few years; threatened by a problem they did not create.

It’s terrifying.

But the tide is beginning to turn on the destructive thinking that has led to climate change.

The speech covers Green Party policies on various issues from anti-asset sales, for public schools and a living wage, to building the “I’m in – for the Future” movement.

Picnic for the Planet: today 11:30am – 3:00pm,  Tahaki Reserve, Mt. Eden.

The Greens have the momentum right now!

109 comments on “Green Party “I’m in – for the future” ”

  1. CV - Real Labour 1

    The Ratanas loved it so much they ditched their male-only marae protocols to let her speak.

    That they did that really is a ‘wow’ and not to be underestimated. A measure of the significant mana that Metiria is held in. I agree karol the Greens have started this year off racing out of the gate, unafraid of being seen as a clearly left wing party. And she doesn’t seem to be afraid to mention “climate change” 🙂

    • Jenny 1.1

      And she doesn’t seem to be afraid to mention “climate change”

      CV – Real Labour

      Great. May this “mention” continue and expand into a full blown all-out campaign against climate change.

      Some solid policies needed to address Climate Change have to be announced. And some solid actions by the Green Party need to be taken now, to show that they take Climate Change seriously.

  2. Bill 2

    And what are my impressions from the post and the links? Pretty obvious really. There may well be a *cough* ‘real Labour Party’…but then up jumps real party of labour.

    I read IB’s comments the other day about the Greens Party’s lack of social breadth and the concerns that a (generally speaking) white middle class support base presents a problem in terms of a parliamentary presence. But even if that demographic problem will present real parliamentary difficulties, that ‘State of the Planet’ speech goes a long way to addressing it by indicating a desire for more inclusive and widespread democratic structures.

    Anyway, seems to me that everything the Greens are doing is absolute streets ahead of the other parties in terms of the thinking it encapsulates and the hope or promise it offers. There was a lot in the ‘State of the Planet’ speech that made me genuinely sit up and take notice – and that’s not a little thing coming from someone who is not exactly endeared with the idea of parliamentary representation.

    And do the Greens harp on about a lack of meedia coverage or unfair media coverage and feel compelled to put forward people the ms media find acceptable? No. They just get on with doing what they are doing. And that’s what political parties should be about; not playing cry baby over access to the megaphones of orthodoxy.

    • Colonial Weka 2.1

      “And do the Greens harp on about a lack of meedia coverage or unfair media coverage and feel compelled to put forward people the ms media find acceptable? No. They just get on with doing what they are doing. And that’s what political parties should be about; not playing cry baby over access to the megaphones of orthodoxy.”

      Ae, that’s because the GP still operates predominantly from integrity. We (NZ) should make the most of that while we still have it.

      • fatty 2.1.1

        yeah…I am suspicious of the MSM are rightwing claims. Sure, they do suppress real left wing voice which is anticapitalist, but that is more to do with the hegemony of capitalism, rather than our media.
        As far as the right wing/left wing – Nats/Lab dichotomy…Labour have more than enough chances in front of cameras, its just they fail with stumble-face. The Green’s don’t have morons voicing their position.
        If your choice is down to Greens or Labour, and you want to invest some time and effort into your chosen party, then the choice is obvious:
        If you put time into Labour, the fruits of your hard work will move upwards to the powerful members in the party and dissipate.
        If you put time into the Greens, the fruits of your hard work will spread to others in the base and throughout our communities – as a result, energy and action grows as others are drawn into the social movement.

      • QoT 2.1.2

        The Greens are also very smart operators in the social media space. It doesn’t hugely expand their target demographics in terms of race/class, but it does a lot to get The Yoof on board and isn’t mediated by the MSM.

  3. hush minx 3

    To me there’s no doubt the greens are making themselves into a very credible repository for left voters, especially given Labour’s performance. They will either be a significant slice of a Labour green cabinet, or be headed for major opposition party status should shearer fail. And I suspect there still be an influx of activists from Labour to the greens off this!

  4. muzza 4

    In order to ,*build up*, an existing structure, needs to be *torn down*, this is what can be seen in the, green momentum, against the self destruction of the Labour Party.

    Working together for NZ, is not seen as a viable option, and the political parties play their role in appealing to the divided individuals, who make up the voting population. Fears, insecurities all played on at any opportunity, while the suffering accelerates

    Until a holistic approach to nurturing, (healing) in the present time is realised as the most pressing issue, the future will be nothing more than a word used, as it has been, associated with failure.

    Until the manufactured scarcity (money), is addressed, (removed from influence)) which is used as a weapon, and the entities who propagate the illusion of scarcity, and fight for its survival (as illustrated by national questioning costs of housing,) accepted as irrelevant, humanity can only continue on the current track.

    Once the *competition* caused by manufactured scarcity is removed from the equation, people will begin to feel safe again, only when a feeling of safety permeates through our societies, touching people, will healing begin.

    The immediate focus, needs to be at the monetary systems, otherwise policy will be directed by scarcity, and people will continue to suffer, and feel insecure!

    Most on this site (and elsewhere), seem unable to grasp the simple concept, control it, or move on without it, by other means!

  5. Sanctuary 5

    The Standard? Really? I think the name of this site ought to be changed to “The Ship of Fools”

    To paraphase wikipedia:

    “…The ship of fools is an allegory that has long been a fixture in Western literature and art. The allegory depicts a website managed by bloggers who are deranged, frivolous, or oblivious passengers aboard a ship without a pilot, and seemingly ignorant of their own direction. This concept makes up the framework of the 15th century book Ship of Fools (1494) by Sebastian Brant, which served as the inspiration for Bosch’s famous painting, Ship of Fools: a ship—an entire fleet at first—sets off from Basel to the paradise of fools, AKA the Green Party…”

    This site is called The Standard because, according to it’s own blurb (do the creators of this site even believe it anymore?) “…The Standard newspaper – from where our masthead comes – was founded by labour movement activists in the 1930s…”

    It has degenerated to little more than a knocking shop of the dissaffected, who find solace in the Greens because that party’s lack of any track record in government whatsoever allows them to project their own fantasies on to a largely blank political canvas.

    This site should either get back to it’s knitting or stop counterfeiting the name of the first Labour Party newspaper.

    • just saying 5.1

      I think the Standard would pass the Trade Descriptions Act.
      The “Labour” party on the other hand….

      • handle 5.1.1

        Nice attempt by Sanctuary to derail a discussion of the Green party’s policies into Labour’s problem of knowing what it stands for. Always a place for you in the sanctum, maam. Mike Smith has the forms.

    • CV - Real Labour 5.2

      What on earth has changed with you, Sanctuary? It’s a bit rude of you to talk about the Standard as the “knocking shop of the disaffected” in quite this way. Especially when in Nov you wrote this rather disaffected sounding comment yourself:

      Shearer made a leftward leaning speech to save his skin at the conference, and did enough to convince enough members that his execution be stayed and he get a(nother) chance. The calling of this leadership vote shows however that the Mallard gang has learnt nothing from its drubbing at the weekend and are instead busily launching into revanchist revenge taking against the proxy messenger. All demoting Cunliffe will do is create the suspicion Shearer told the conference what he thought it wanted to hear, in the hope that he and his backers can simply dispatch the proxy messenger to the back benches and go back to pastel pink neo-liberalism once the dust settles.

      But until the Mallard clique is purged and the membership taken back on side, Shearer is dreaming if he thinks he can simply return to business as usual tomorrow.

      http://thestandard.org.nz/on-loyalty/#comment-551032

      edit – to be clearer, I don’t believe that The Standard has left Labour. More like Labour has decided to leave The Standard.

      • Sanctuary 5.2.1

        “… I don’t believe that The Standard has left Labour. More like Labour has decided to leave The Standard…”

        Poppycock hubris. And The Standard newspaper was aligned to the Labour PARTY, and you know it.

        I stand by what I said, but for me the turning point was the frankly mean spirited and more than slightly hysterical reaction to Labour’s new housing policy. It was then I had the realisation that a certain faction of people who write posts on this site had painted themselves into a rhetorical corner with no idea how to get out it; So they’ve doubled down instead. There will be nothing constructive said about the Labour here anymore, because to many of this sites writers have neither the wit to back down nor the grace to recognise they need to do so. Karol, the author of this post, is clearly anti-Labour, and uses a style we’ve all seen before.

        David Low created Colonel Blimp, and it is obvious to me why it took a New Zealander to do so – It seems to me The Standard has been hijacked by the Colonel Blimps who once populated and ruined the Alliance, and are seemingly everywhere in our society.

        Effectively, they’ve overplayed their hand and exiled themselves to being whining fringe merchants.

        • CV - Real Labour 5.2.1.1

          Effectively, they’ve overplayed their hand and exiled themselves to being whining fringe merchants.

          What’s changed Sanctuary? I can keep copying and pasting well-reasoned comments you made in Nov/Dec slamming the approach of Shearer, Mallard in holding Labour back. What’s going on?

          I stand by what I said, but for me the turning point was the frankly mean spirited and more than slightly hysterical reaction to Labour’s new housing policy.

          Hysterical? That housing policy is aimed at people earning over $60,000 per annum. It’s very dfficult to service a $300,000 mortage over 20 years on less income than that. The criticisms were valid – its not a social housing policy, its housing policy for the solid income earning middle class.

        • geoff 5.2.1.2

          Sounds more like you’ve doubled down on your own misguided realisation, Sanctuary. You’ve come up with these extensive metaphors to explain your own incorrect generalisations and are so pleased with yourself that you’ve fooled yourself into thinking they have some resemblance with reality. Perhaps becoming an author of children’s books would be more in line with your strengths.

        • RedLogix 5.2.1.3

          I’m not the only one baffled Sanctuary. Perhaps for slightly different reasons.

          I’ve come to know you from many, many comments you’ve posted here over the years. You are perhaps the one poster whose comments I’ve always respected, but more than this … wish I had written myself. Consistently.

          Now of course I’m not foolish enough to think everyone will always think exactly the same about everything. And when people change their minds it’s not always at the same time.

          But our values are often more solid than this. And I suspect we both share a fair chunk of very similar values. Loyalty being one of them. For instance I’d bet that a little bit of you too was recoiled by Key’s recent sacking of two loyal and competent Ministers … just because he could and it suited him to do so.

          But looking back on my own life I can see several points at which I gave my undiluted commitment to people and organisations … who simply did not deserve it. My loyalty to them was simply used and nothing came back by way of return. When I finally (too late as it was) parted company, I’m sure I was labelled ‘disaffected’. That’s how it’s always painted by the power-brokers.

          But frankly when a relationship isn’t working for you anymore, what are the choices? Hang on and hope it will get better? Or pick another path? Never an easy choice.

          • Jackal 5.2.1.3.1

            Kate Wilkinson a competent Minister… You can’t be serious RedLogix?

            • RedLogix 5.2.1.3.1.1

              Well adequately so. Sure neither could be described as stellar, but considering some of the people Key kept on ahead of these two….

              Any real manager who wants to shuffle his line-up goes through a change management process, consults, gets feedback, tries to build as much buy-in as possible … and allows the people without a chair at the end of the process the opportunity to move on with their dignity intact.

              Key .. for all the spin he put on it … ruthlessly shafted these two. That’s my point.

              • CV - Real Labour

                This is how National gets things done, fast. And I wouldn’t feel to much sympathy RL. National is also excellent for handing out rewards to its people like board positions and consulting contracts. Wilkinson and Heatly will be looked after in the long term, I’m sure.

        • Olwyn 5.2.1.4

          ianmac has used a nagging wife analogy to describe TS critics of Labour. I see it as analogous to a breakdown in trust between a couple: the pink bubbly and the gas station flowers do not make up for your failing to explain why you didn’t come home last night. Once trust goes, all actions come under suspicion until it is rebuilt. When the worst insults are reserved for party members rather than the opposition, and membership drives are looked upon with suspicion, then you must surely acknowledge that the trust problem cuts both ways.

    • Bill 5.3

      Labour Party and labour movement are not the same thing. A Labour Party that cleaved to labour principles could only ever be a part of a labour movement. The newspaper was formed by the labour movement. The Labour Party was formed by a part of the labour movement. And the Green’s politics align strongly with labour movement principles.

      But you carry on being wild and blind with that bluderbuss.

      • Sanctuary 5.3.1

        Right, thanks for the more granular explaination. I now look forward to your erudite description of the number of angels that can fit onto the head of a pin.

        • Bill 5.3.1.1

          None.

          You’d do well to dump the fictions from your head – pins, angels/Labour Party, labour movement…

          Meanwhile, the post is about the Green Party, Green Party policies and Green Party speeches. It’s not about ‘the standard’ or your opinions of ‘the standard’. And it’s not about the Labour Party.

          And I’m not going to contribute any more towards your attempts to derail the thread.

    • the Al1en 5.4

      “It has degenerated to little more than a knocking shop of the dissaffected, who find solace in the Greens because that party’s lack of any track record in government whatsoever allows them to project their own fantasies on to a largely blank political canvas.”

      Are you sure? I think it’s because shearer’s labour is shit and the Green’s aren’t.
      Head over heart, mate. Always.

      “The Standard newspaper – from where our masthead comes – was founded by labour movement activists in the 1930s…””

      Shearer’s Labour is nothing like that. Almost a bit disingenuous, given the current Labour caucus, to even try and link it with historical activism.
      Reads like a mike smith post.

      “The Ship of Fools”

      With captain mf supposedly at labour’s helm, I reckon the smart money is on the ts waka to survive the cruise.

    • bad12 5.5

      Post hi-jack number one, an attack on the Standard, along with an atttack on authors and commenters all in one go,

      The Green Party doesn’t give a continental big fat f**k what you think, 10,11,12,13% in the polls is one hell of a lot of us painting upon that blank canvass…

    • ianmac 5.6

      Sanctuary. What happens on The Standard now is that every utterance by anyone seen to be supporting current Labour or Labour Leadership is heckled and denigrated. It has become sadly so predictable that if say Mike Smith writes anything at all, the response will be swift and nasty. Like a nagging wife who finds fault in everything that her husband says or does. No matter what the husband does, the miserable wife is of course the looser.
      Since there are so many miserable commentators here perhaps they should abandon TS and join the ranks of NAct blogs where their comments would fit in so well. Not sure how their commentary would go down on Green blogs as the negativity might be unwelcome.

      • geoff 5.6.1

        Like a nagging wife who finds fault in everything that her husband says or does.
        This isn’t the forum for you to air your personal problems, Ianmac.

        • ianmac 5.6.1.1

          geoff. Not my problem mate. (To the contrary. She is hugely supportive of even for my daftest ideas.)
          TS used to be my first read of the day when ideas were tossed around and the opinions of those who were clearly unsupporting of the so called Left were interesting and often valid.
          But now an unremitting litany of anti-Labour responses to any and all pro-Labour commentary.
          Just one person’s viewpoint.

          • handle 5.6.1.1.1

            If you sneer at your wife, Ian, does she give you a slap? Starting a conversation with phrases like “the REAL Labour party” is not constructive. Saying it and then slinking away without further comment is just nasty. People are pretty good judges of character.

            • Jackal 5.6.1.1.1.1

              Not commenting is nasty? Please continue to inform us of your delusions there handle?

              ianmac used the nasty wife example to highlight a real and pressing problem that I have also observed on The Standard… The fact that anybody who says anything positive about Labour and more specifically David Shearer is hounded into silence.

              It’s correct to say that such behaviour has more in common with the behaviour seen on far right blogs, whereby reality and truth have little relevance and debates are won not by reason, but by bullying and disinformation.

              These are things that have very little to do with traditional left wing values, which is perhaps why there’s now less truly leftwing commentary here.

          • KJT 5.6.1.1.2

            Actually was all for Labour. Until they decided, in 1984, not to be Labour any more.

            Criticising the current direction and incompetence of a small clique at the top who seem to have hijacked the party yet again, 1984 deja vue all over again anyone, is not “anti-Labour”.

            Instead of responding to criticism with defensiveness and arrogance they would be better to figure out why National party propagandists, like Hooten and Armstrong, are so pleased with their current direction while formerly strong Labour supporters, are not!

            No one would like to see the regrowth of a strong and principled Labour party more than me.

            I would even be happy if they pinch Green policy. You know, the sort of policies that would once have been Labours.

            • Jackal 5.6.1.1.2.1

              Not that I want to be drawn into derailing this thread concerning the Green’s most excellent housing policy anymore than it has been, but haven’t you heard of reverse psychology KJT. The right wing employ many tactics in their quest to reduce support for Labour, which is still their main competition. Tis merely another part of National’s psychological warfare against the left.

              Why would Labour pinch Green’s policy when it’s likely they’ll be able to implement that policy after a coalition agreement anyway? To preempt that would have three potential negative results… To alienate the middle class voter who doesn’t agree with Green’s policy, to anger some Green’s because it’s their policy, to divide the voters between two parties offering the same policy.

              I was also wondering when are you going to start blogging again?

      • the Al1en 5.6.2

        “perhaps they should abandon TS and join the ranks of NAct blogs where their comments would fit in so well.”

        And take their pesky votes and ideals with them, traitors. :sarc:

        “Not sure how their commentary would go down on Green blogs as the negativity might be unwelcome.”

        Labour is reaping what it’s sown.
        Four years of failing and it still doesn’t own it’s own future. (see what I did? 😉 )
        Not really the winning platform to be pushing up the polls.

      • locus 5.6.3

        ianmac, I hope i’m not deemed a heckler or denigrator if i ask for a list of the exemplary things that our Party Leader has done over the last couple of years….

        Honestly I really do want to have something to hang my hat on – like lots of other Labour voters I’m sure – it’s incredibly easy to win me over to become an ardent supporter.

        So please can you help me to see anything in the words and actions of David and caucus other than a cool attempt to win over the floating centrist vote who are currently ticking the Nat box.

      • Rhinoviper 5.6.4

        So you don’t have the most popular treehouse and instead want to have the coolest? Ask yourself where the votes are going. If they’re going to Green and Mana, that’s not bad, but last election, a lot of those votes didn’t go to NAct, they stayed at home.

    • karol 5.7

      Sanctuary, it has always been stated that this blog is one for the broad labour movement, not just the NZ Labour Party. I think I am not the only Standard author who has never been a Labour Party member. Since before I was invited to be an author on this site, I stated here that I had party voted Green in the last few elections.

      I stopped party voting Labour Party (but continued to vote for my local electorate Labour candidate – Cunliffe) during the Clark government because I was disappointed in them back then. However, there are some things done and said by the LP that I continued to be positive about.

      The Green Party have always had a left wing perspective, as could be seen with MPs like Sue Bradford, and Metiria Turei’s long term campaign against poverty and for social justice, and Russel Norman’s background in the Socialist Workers’ Party.

      I have been critical over the last year in the way Russel Norman has become the public profile of the Greens, and of his slippage towards the right. I have always been more positive about Turei, and have been concerned about her being sidelined. So I have been very pleased to see Turei come to the fore lately. It is perfectly consistent with my long term perspective for me to post about her in this way, and for me to be more positive about the Green Party than the LP.

  6. bad12 6

    I do not think that Metiria’s announcement of the Green Party housing policy ‘gazumped’ the previously announced Labour Party policy at all, more the announcement was a polite pointer to Labour that ‘hello, you seem to have forgotten these people, the cohort trapped at or just above the minimum wage who have NO job security and may at any time be in or out of the workforce’,

    Slippery the Prime Minister tho was definitely miffed at being upstaged at Ratana Pa by the Green Party Leader,(i have deliberately dropped the CO here as i find co-leader rather prissy and when addressing Russell Norman’s contribution which i have in no way forgotten will accord Him also the title of Leader),and didn’t the septic tank overflow when it was the Prime Minister’s time to address the Marae,

    In a speech that in Maori-dom will echo up and down the Motu Slippery harangued the gathered Maori Leaders on what He said was the benefits in housing that His Government had bestowed upon Ratana in terms which screamed that their,( Ratana Morehu),support of both Labour and the Green Party was unacceptable as National had already ‘bought’ and ‘paid for’ the Ratana electoral support through such schemes as the housing insulation scheme FAILING as usual to acknowledge that the policy was a Green Party initiative,

    Slippery of course knows that while Maori are unlikely to vote for National, Ratana Pa is smack in the middle of Tariana Turia’s electorate and Turia is Morehu and my belief is that He (the Prime Minister) gave such an ugly speech as He has some understanding of the political power Ratana wield in Maori-dom and realized that even here in the heart of Turia’s electorate His coalition partner and only hope of a third term National Government has no support,

    Turia Herself as Leader of the Maori Party insulted not only the gathered Leaders of the church but the Morehu itself along with the Prophet Ratana by later giving a television interview in which She directly told Ratana to stay out of politics and stick to social services,

    That little gem from Turia along with the direct insults from Slippery the Prime Minister to Ratana and it’s Morehu will be in coming months discussed at Hui the length and breadth of the country and my view is that if the Maori Party membership is now down to 600 from the giddy days of having 24,000 signed up members, the fall-out from the Ratana Hui of 2013 is likely to see that membership at 6 by the years end…

  7. Salsy 7

    Progressive Ownership will allow families that are otherwise locked out of the housing market a path way to home ownership by leveraging the Government’s low cost of capital. Families will be able to live in a government-built home, making a basic weekly payment to cover the Crown’s investment cost and making flexible payments in addition to that amount that purchase equity in the property off the Crown until they own the property outright. No deposit would be required and if families moved out of the home before owning it the equity investment made to that point would be paid out.

    So whats in it for same sex marriages, widows, singles and low income couples, the elderly, injured, mental heath sufferes etc… this housing policy is only for people with children. Will this policy then encourage poorer couples/singles stuggling to get a deposit to just opt for having a baby instead to get a cheaper house? How is this green?

    • Bill 7.1

      My tuppence-worth would be that getting children into materially stable home environments is a good and necessary first step. And allied with the proposals for rental properties (and bearing in mind that the ‘home ownership’ model allows for de-facto lifetime rental)…I can’t see what your bugbear is.

      At between $200 and $300 per week, the Green’s policy will effectively introduce a downward pressure on the $ level of private rentals which is of course, good for all of us out here who rent and have no inclination to own a house.

      And for private landlords who don’t like the prospect of future diminished returns from their rental investments, then they can sell. And so, potentially we get a downwrd pressure on house prices to boot.

      What’s Green about it? The question makes no sense unless you are of the persuasion that the Green Party should focus solely on explicitly environmental issues. In which case you haven’t been paying attention.

      But what would there be to prevent environmental considerations being taken into account through ‘future proofing’ any new builds and/or reducing the amount of concrete/cement used in new builds? Well, as I understand it’s a discussion policy document that is open to input until March and not a finalised policy. So knock yourself out in submitting positive and green suggestions to them through their submission process.

      • fatty 7.1.1

        I can’t see what your bugbear is

        Its the ‘lazy baby-factory for money’ rhetoric that we love to throw at young Kiwi women. Its a sick game to play.

      • anthony bull 7.1.2

        You’re mistaken if you think this going to impact rental or property prices. The demand for decent houses in THE locations (e.g. central Auckland) will still be there, and people that are on the breadline would never have rented there in the first place.

    • bad12 7.2

      How is that Green, it is GREEN because the Green Party have as a core tenet SOCIAL JUSTICE, at the heart of social justice is that those with the greatest NEED are at the FRONT of the queue when it comes to Government provision of social services,

      In particular HOUSING at the core of both economy and society, it is the cohort of the lowest paid wage workers with children who have been identified as among the most ‘hurt’ by the past 30 years of neo-liberal generated changes to our economy…

      • Nick K 7.2.1

        There isn’t enough CAPS in your C OMMENT. IF YOU HAD MORE it would be MORE EFFECTIVE and people would TAKE NOTICE.

      • Fortran 7.2.2

        bad12

        The song goes “if you do not have a Dream then you cannot have a Dream come true.”
        The Greens have a Dream.
        Labour does not .
        The Greens have a Dream – so let them come true.

        • bad12 7.2.2.1

          LOLZ, dream!!! what are you even on about??? to steal a brilliantly acted line off of that Girl on the TV ad,

          As the Green Party housing policy show’s, the Green’s have a carefully thought through set of social policies with the emphasis on social justice,

          Along with this and yet to be announced you will find that the Green’s also have a serious set of economic policies as well as enviroment policy which will require from the electorate the approval only garnered from ‘seeing is believing’,

          Hence there is no profit in dictating to the ‘farming lobby’ the enviromentally friendly use of land to farm and still generate expected levels of profitability,

          There is tho, once ‘in’ Government a compelling reason and enviromental profit to be gained by using one or more of the States farming units to SHOW that farming lobby that enviromentally friendly farming need not occur at the cost of loss of profit, once that proof is produced there is then no reason for farming practices that are detrimental to the enviroment to occur and every reason for the farming lobby to take up such practices,

          Pssst, just to let you know that it is the Slippery lead National Government that clings to dreams, especially the dream that the market provides solutions to everything…

    • bad12 7.3

      PS, the Green Party policy is to also build 3000 State owned rentals a year which will go toward many of the other areas your complaint addresses…

      • bad12 7.3.1

        PS again, i find your use of the words ‘what’s in it for blah blah blah’ to be abhorrent in terms of the Social Justice as espoused by the Green Party,

        That is simply the politics of gimmie gimmie gimmie of the National Party, WE as in members of Green Party are ‘not in it’ for any personal gain we perceive to be on offer,

        To personalize this, i am ‘in it’ so that when i am down the back tending my garden i continnue to hear the sound of the neighbourhood kids laughing like loons as they play the games that only they know the rules of,

        The continuation of such laughter(which sets me to laughing even tho i am physically removed from those that generate it) depends upon those kids having a stable affordable lifestyle with a decent roof over their heads,

        That’s a simple explanation of social justice and i will vote FOR the Party that i think will best provide that to ALL Kiwi kids, at the moment i see that as being the Green Party…

        • Jackal 7.3.1.2

          There is personal gain in having vibrant and healthy communities. It’s been my experience to live next to dysfunctional families whereby financial hardship is causing stress and arguments. It’s not a nice situation, especially when children are involved.

          One positive factor will be less dysfunctional families that result in damaged children who often grow up to damage other people and society. There’s a financial benefit as well being that the cost for an ambulance at the bottom of the cliff is far greater than policy designed to restore social equality.

  8. Colonial Weka 8

    Interesting analysis from Robert Winter

    ” Ms Turei on form

    The Greens have been enjoying a good run of late. They’ve been addressing the key issues with some energy and to good effect. They are, currently, capitalising on the disarray in Labour brought about by Conference and its aftermath, and the almost pathological fear in parts of the LP about developing and promoting a clear Social Democratic message. We’re working on that!

    What interests me about the Greens is what I see as a strong Social Democratic dimension to Ms Turei’s commentaries, and the obvious respect and affection felt in the Greens for her, in contrast to a far more ambiguous sentiment surrounding Mr Norman. I’m told that my observation is echoed within the Greens’ caucus. I understand that in terms of both style and politics, Mr Norman has his internal critics, who are concerned about his potential capacity to “trim” his politics to gain power (a “power over principle” problem). Ms Turei is seen very differently, as a principled and radical presence. This suggestion of a degree of tension in the leadership of the Greens would not surprise many people. The Greens are emerging as a political force, in part because of Labour’s inconsistencies, and we might expect some edges to appear in their internal politics. The Greens remain a broad camp, strung out between traditionalists and modernisers (as one Green put it to me) and we cannot expect them to homogenise into a single, monolithic tradition.

    But the way the Greens develop will have two important effects on Labour. The first will be its impact on the creation of any post-election alliance in 2014. The second, and the more important, will be the impact on radical, disaffected members of the LP , who, were the Greens to consolidate firmly around a strong Social Democratic perspective, might jump ship. The LP ignores this at its peril, but it has also clear implications for the Greens and its leadership. ”

    http://robertwinter.blogspot.co.nz/2013/01/ms-turei-on-form.html

  9. I’ve been a Labour voter all my life, up ’til now.
    In the UK I was too young to vote in 83, but would even had voted for Michael Foot’s (bless him) unelectable mess given the chance.
    Since I’ve been a resident here, I voted three times for Helen, the first in 03, and once, despite my misgivings, for Goff in 11.
    See my supermarket trolley and you’ll find I’m not brand loyal – I always get the best value for my buck. Same for my vote.
    Part of me is bothered that a) I’m not part of 2013 Labour’s target demographic. And b) The traditional party of the working man doesn’t appear to be so any more. But get over it, Al1. There’s always another way.

    Last year I made the decision to vote for the Green party, and to be totally fair, despite having to surrender near 30 years of history, found it fairly easy.
    Similar, and in many cases better policy, is just part of the bargain.
    No baggage, no dinosaurs and a competent, complimentary set of parliamentarians.

    As I tell our kid out shopping, you don’t need the label, just what’s inside.
    I just wish they’d stand the right candidate in Ham West so I could give two ticks and take the old guard out of the equation.

    Viva Green (R)evolution.

    • anthony bull 9.1

      the problem with the Greens is that they have some ok ideas and some good people, but if they still commit to devaluing the currency they will get crucified at the next election and it will be sayonara.

  10. Tiresias 10

    The Greens SHOULD be a single-issue party – admittedly a pretty broad single issue being the environment we live in plus anything affecting it, which takes in development and planning, industrial practices, some social issues such as birth control &tc. It SHOULD look to be strong enough merely to support a more general Left-wing government and demand cabinet seats reflecting its particular concerns.

    Ie. the Greens concern with housing should be limited to the protection and preservation of green spaces and good farm land, pressing for energy-efficient housing and stopping the unnecessary use of unhealthy chemicals and substances in buildings.

    Unfortunately the failure of the Labour Party to represent the Left and galvanise it, staggering along as it is with the support of a few die-hards who still hope for a return to the Socialist movement of the ’30s plus a wishy-washy lower-middle-class block who vote Labour because their parents did or who aren’t quite rich enough to benefit from National’s promises or secure enough to risk losing the safety-net beneath them, has forced the NZ Greens to fill the void.

    I don’t think it should have to, or can. It doesn’t have the numbers or the expertise to offer a complete governmental package, and I doubt many Greens would see it as the Green’s role. IMHO many people who would love to see a strong Green influence in Government would draw back from the possibility of a Green Government but at the moment see nowhere else worth voting, leaving the Left in limbo.

    • the Al1en 10.1

      Just a :lol @ Tiresias’ first three paragraphs.

      And a 😆 a 😀 a :smirk: and a :rolleyes: at the thought of a Labour party with the numbers and expertise to offer a complete government package… When they’ve not laid a finger on the nats in over four years of apparently trying.

    • CV - Real Labour 10.2

      The Greens see a clear opportunity to move to 15% or more in the polls. They can’t do that by being a limited single issue party.

      In terms of your question re: depth and breadth of the Greens, it is a valid one. It is worth noting that the Greens have been around as a political party for a long time. And they have an international coalition of Green parties globally to draw on. Finally, “expertise” in governmental issues comes from experienced people. And there are plenty of experienced people moving towards the Greens right now.

    • bad12 10.3

      The Green Party should be!!! what??? are you a Green Party Member, the Green Party should be what the majority of it’s members say it should be,

      Green Party policy should reflect the views of the majority of Green Party members which in my mind, being ‘a dark Green’ who sees red quite often it does…

      • handle 10.3.1

        If Green supporters can comment on Labour party matters, the favour can be returned. The left is bigger than either party. This new move by the Greens recognises that.

      • Tiresias 10.3.2

        “are you a Green Party Member,”

        No, I’m not presently a Green Party member. I did help set up and establish a local branch in 1991 and was a member until I left in 2005 in disgust at Sue Bradford’s squandering of a great deal of the Green’s political capital with her inane personal crusade over child smacking, which means I’ve demonstrated that I agree entirely that “the Green Party should be what the majority of it’s members say it should be,” (save for the punctuation) and over the child smacking nonsense where it seemed I was in a minority I parted company with it.

        I don’t believe the Greens should be a party of the Left – or of the Right. Ideally it should be able to impose Green thinking on a party of any colour, directly by sharing power or indirectly by forcing other parties to include green policies – or at least green shading – to compete for votes. My point, and my worry, is that the present vacuum on the Left is forcing the Greens that way by attracting the disenfranchised left voters, which will turn the Greens into a Left wing party and allow the Right to abandon any pretence to greenery.

        • bad12 10.3.2.1

          But that’s all ‘the right’ has had and has shown little inclination of having into the future, the PRETENCE of greenery,

          Why would the Greens then go anywhere near ‘the right’ when as policy that Green Party has had from it’s outset the social policy of Social Justice for all,

          Both areas, actual enviromentally friendly policy and real social justice are anathema to both the National and ACT party’s…

    • karol 10.4

      The Green Party has always been more than a single issue party, since it evolved from the old Values Party, They have an interlocking set of values. Related to those values and goals, they have a range of interlocking policies, covering diverse areas of life and society.

      The Greens have always had MPs with a strong left wing background: Bradford, Turei, Norman (ex Socialist Workers’ Party), Rod Donald (ex Alliance) etc.

  11. irascible 11

    The Green’s housing policy is an add on conservatory to the important and most necessary housing policy, that proposed by Shearer as the basis of the Labour Party’s platform which has substantial public support and credibility.
    All the Greens are doing is to supply another layer to the substantive policy in order to gain traction off it.
    Let’s get real and stop the bickering about leaders and PR image, which much of the anti-Shearer and anti- Cunliffe memes are, and get on with the task of knocking out the NACT asset sales party.
    I reckon the SST’s Cunliffe has got it right in the Final Word today:
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/opinion/8228464/Cunliffe-NZ-the-land-of-the-long-grey-cloud

    • CV - Real Labour 11.1

      The Green’s housing policy is an add on conservatory to the important and most necessary housing policy, that proposed by Shearer as the basis of the Labour Party’s platform which has substantial public support and credibility.

      Or more simply, the Greens policy looks after those on less than $60,000 income p.a., the Labour policy looks after those on more than $60,000 income p.a.

      • QoT 11.1.1

        Hilariously, I think this means the smaller party is interested in helping the greater number of people …

      • bad12 11.1.2

        Got that right, my view is that the Labour Party is firmly of, for, and by the middle class in it’s make up and policy,

        The Greens being an amalgam of fundamental enviromentalists and social justice advocates where the two are in no way mutually exclusive and as evidenced by the current Green Parliamentary team this has produced a plethora of well reasoned debate in and out of the Parliament without creating any of the difficulties faced by other party’s and in effect cementing in the currently growing % of support for the Green Party…

  12. Jenny 12

    I fully support a decent housing policy coming from central government. And the Green Party in coming up with a housing package to the left of the Labour Party one, are trying to, out Labour the Labour Party.

    But you have to ask yourself why haven’t Labour come up with such a package themselves?

    At a time when the financial system and the natural world are both in serious danger of collapse. The chance to tinker with the system to deliver even minor reforms is seriously constrained.

    Instead of delivering on their promises of reform and social justice. Left social democratic parties on gaining office are finding themselves having to agree to imposing austerity. There can be little doubt this is the path mapped out by Shearer and crew for the Labour Party in Government. And the Greens in tying themselves to this chariot will be dragged along behind. (Much to the dismay of their Left support).

    There is only room for one Left social democratic party in the political spectrum. The Green Party may, or may not succeed in their bid to hollow out Labour’s support base to usurp this roll for themselves. (Though personally I will think they will fail just as the Alliance did). But succeed, or fail, it will make little difference when the resource and climate crisis hits.

    So what should the Green Party do?

    They need to take heed of Naomi Kleine:

    ….Climate change has the ability to undo your historic victories and crush your present struggles. So it’s time to come together, for real, and fight to preserve and extend what you care most about — which means engaging in the climate fight, really engaging, as if your life and your life’s work, even life itself, depended on it. Because they do.

    Naomi Kleine “I’d Rather Fight Like Hell”

    For the Green Party, what would “really”, “engaging in the climate fight” mean?

    First of all it would mean the Green Party instead of regarding the danger of Climate Change as an equal or even subservient priority to all their other issues. A position supported by QoT Karol and others. The Green Party need to make the fight against climate change a stated priority.

    What would this mean in practice?

    First, Using the good will built up in the joint Labour, Green, Mana Partys’ inquiry into the Crisis in Manufacturing, call a similiar whole party into crisis in the Climate. The aim of such an inquiry to get an across the board consensus on the serious necessary steps that will need to be taken against Climate Change on the achievement of a Labour Green Mana NZ First Government. To enter into government arrangement with Labour without holding such an inquiry would be disastrous for the climate and for the Green Party.

    Second, Start putting up private members bills that target needless CO2 polluters and vigorously lobby Labour (and National) and all other MPs to back them.

    The putting up of private members bills is one of ways that opposition parties gain attention and give notice of the policies that are important to them. (This was most famously done over nuclear ship visits when the Labour opposition put a private members bill against nuclear ship visits and then furiously lobbied wavering National MPs to back it. Which undermined the National Government majority and led to the snap election. Ostensibly fought over that issue.)

    It is a glaring omission that since the departure of Jeanette Fitzsimons from their caucus, the Green Party have not put up one single private members bill relating to climate change.

    Third, On their official website, instead of dumping climate change in some third ranked page, equal with 59 “other issues“, bring Climate Change onto the front page.

    Fourth, The Green Party leaders (Meteira Turei included), need to start making speeches where Climate Change is not just “mentioned” but is the subject of the speech.

    There are many other things, that I orothers might suggest that the Green Party could do if they were serious about combating climate change. But they are intelligent people and I am sure that if they heeded Naomi Kleine’s call to take up this fight as if their lives depended on it, they would come up with some ideas of their own. All that prevents them from doing so, is a grievous lack of a political will, and the necessary courage and vision and determination to seriously take up this fight.

    • handle 12.1

      “There is only room for one Left social democratic party in the political spectrum”

      Sad that you believe this. It is not what MMP is about.

      • Jenny 12.1.1

        FPP or MMP it doesn’t matter.

        Similiar to the familiar concept popularised by Charles Darwin that only one creature can inhabit a certain ecological niche.

        While in both nature and politic,s it is not an absolute. Eventually one drives the other out.

        The Green Party are dreaming if they think that can supplant the Labour Party in this political niche.

        • handle 12.1.1.1

          How naive. And why would a Darwinist be worried by climate change anyway?

          • Jenny 12.1.1.1.1

            Because Darwin popularised the concept of extinction.
            Before Darwin it wasn’t even suspected that whole species could become extinct. People living in Europe in the middle ages never suspected it. Surrounded as they were by sheep and goats and cows and other livestock and wild animals described in the bible. And a comfortable creation story that told them, that these creatures had been around since the beginning. But then naturalists like Darwin and others started going out into the world and bringing back startling and disturbing evidence that things were not always as they appear now.

            Nowadays of course we do know about extinction. And as the saying goes; Fore warned is fore armed. Or, for rational creatures like us, at least it should be.

            • RedLogix 12.1.1.1.1.1

              Possibly Jenny. The ‘left’ is not a single niche, it has both economic, social and environmental dimensions.

              Fact is that the ‘working class’ lives with far thinner margins of safety in life and for this reason tend to be somewhat socially conservative and be the traditional voter base for Labour; while the middle class for complementary reasons has been more willing to engage with the more socially liberal Greens.

              As long as we have a distinct working and middle class in this country I suspect we’ll have two distinct (although allied) left-wing parties as well.

              • Jenny

                The ‘left’ is not a single niche, it has both economic, social and environmental dimensions.

                RedLogix

                I would agree. My point is that the Green Party are trying to climb into the Labour Party niche.

                What will this mean?

                One will consume or destroy the other. Or they will become so similiar they will merge into one.

                You can see this effect already in the post by EDDY. If you didn’t have their names and party branding attached to their speeches it would be hard to tell them apart. Even the the two photos of the leaders at the top of the post, which EDDIE has placed side by side could be seamlessly joined into one split image.

                • karol

                  The Greens have always had a social democratic perspective. Rod Donald was ex-Alliance, Sue Bradford (well known eco-socialist), Russel Norman (ex Socialist Workers’ Party), Metiria Turei, life long commitment to eliminating poverty, etc, etc. It’s not something they’ve just decided to “climb into”.

                  It’s in the Green Party values, goals and history, as they developed out of the Values Party:

                  In 1979 Values was also torn by internal debate about its political orientation with an Auckland-led environmentalist faction and a Christchurch-led socialist/unionist faction. Those strands are still there in the contemporary Green Party but they are in concert rather than opposition.

                  In their long term goals, there are these:

                  People are secure that their essential needs will be met, and they have the time, resources and ability to participate in their communities and develop their potential. …

                  Power imbalances are reduced and resources are shared more equally.

                  Those who have plenty learn to say “enough” so that all may have enough.

                  Science and technology serve human needs and the biosphere within an ethical framework.

                  We nurture creativity, wisdom and life-long learning.

                  The main focus of New Zealand’s international work is environmental integrity, peace, justice and human rights.

                  • Jenny

                    The main focus of New Zealand’s international work is environmental integrity, peace, justice and human rights.

                    karol

                    No mention of climate change there karol. Or for that matter, anywhere else in your above explanation of where the Green Party are at.

                    I can now more easily understand Naomi Klein’s and 350.org founder Richard McKibben’s frustration and criticism of the traditional left and the environmental movement for failing to come to grips with climate change in a serious and urgent way.

                    Each has a tough-love message for their own constituency — McKibben for an insular environmental movement that’s been woefully ineffective on climate; Klein for a left, including many in the Occupy movement, that has failed to grapple with the seriousness and urgency of the climate crisis.

                    I’d Rather Fight Like Hell

    • karol 12.2

      Klein.

      Jenny, the Green Party has a holistic perspective on the environment, and the way we live within it. Sometimes circumstances indicate one issue or another needs to be the sole focus. But they are always part of the whole.

      Strange that you support social democracy, but want the Greens to focus mostly on climate change. They go together.

      If the planet is saved through reversing warming and resource depletion without tackling the social and economic inequalities, the elite will aim to harness the natural and human resources still available for their own ends – slave labour? Shortened lives for the servant/peasant classes? If the fights against such inequalities doesn’t continue strongly, the elite will continue to strengthen their power and this will be harder to reverse. Alternatively, they’ll keep using their power to resist power-down and sustainable practices. Either way, the fight against climate change and resource depletion needs to go hand-in-hand with the struggle for socially and economically just form of democratic society.

      • Jenny 12.2.1

        Strange that you support social democracy, but want the Greens to focus mostly on climate change. They go together.

        karol

        That the two go together, who can doubt it.

        I don’t want the Green Party to focus mostly on climate change.

        I want them to do something about it.

        Mostly, that will mean giving a lead rather than dodging the issue.

        Not being afraid to fully address the issue at any and every occasion that reasonably presents itself.

        Not putting off publicly raising polices that if taken up would represent serious steps to reverse or lessen the danger. Instead actively promote such policies right now while in opposition. To be able to raise them later in government.

        If this is not done now, the Green Party will have no moral right, or mandate to raise such policies in government. As the Green Party well know.

        Which will mean at least another electoral term with no concrete measures taken against climate change.

        Instead of ameliorating opposition to climate change policies to suit the Labour or National Parties and public opinion. Challenging and informing these parties and the public at every opportunity of the need to do something now.

        What we should all expect and demand from the Green Party is leadership on this issue.

        Of course it is easier to go for soft policies that everyone will understand*. But this is not leadership.

        “A genuine leader is not a searcher for consensus but a molder of consensus,”

        Martin Luther King

        *(Though these things should be done as well).

        • karol 12.2.1.1

          On an individual level, going by the view of the Green Party picnic on TV News tonight, GP members do their bit – riding bicycles, etc.

          To “do” anything significant, a political party needs some leverage and to communicate in a way that gets people’s attention in a positive way. Just raising the issue at every opportunity could be counter productive – kind of equivalent to “more haste, less speed.” I think the Greens are on the right track with their “I’m in” movement initiative – building a movement (and showing some leadership on it and the issues they have related to it) that would have some momentum. It would give them a better platform for their policies.

          They already have tried to do stuff where they can: e.g. the home insulation scheme – small scale, but they are a small party outside government.

          However, with you comments about social democracy not being a Green Party thing, and your stronger emotional commitment to the NZLP, I suspect nothing the Greens do or say would ever be good enough for you.

          I think a strong Green Party presence in government, along with an increase in the number of Mana MPs would be building momentum in a direction where good things can get done – and may encourage more LP MPs to get back to their core values too.

          • Jenny 12.2.1.1.1

            Karol, I have never said “that social democracy is not a Green Party thing”. What I said is that with the Green Party playing down climate change, the Green Party are changing into just another social democratic party.

            I have no problem with social democratic policies being promoted by the Greens any more than I have against green policies being promoted by the National Party or Labour.

            What I do object to, and object strongly to, is the Green Party selling out over Climate Change.

            In the final call of history it will be this, that they will be judged on.

            I might mention here, that the home insulation scheme that you mentioned, plus the other climate change bills put up by the Green Party were spearheaded by Jeanette Fitzsimons. Since she left the Green caucus, the Green Party have not put up even one private members bill that challengs their fellow parliamentarians on Climate Change.

            And you are wrong in saying that anything the Greens did or said would be not good enough for me.

            If the Greens called an all party parliamentary inquiry to address the climate crisis as they did for the crisis in manufacturing I would be amazed and overjoyed.

            Go to Hansard and see the fiery debates in parliament generated by Fitzsimons private members bills related to climate change.

            If the Greens again started putting up private members bills in parliament that challenged the rest of parliament especially the Labour Party to put their cards on the table that would please me immensely as well.

            If the Greens would make addressing climate change one of their electoral “Priorities” that would also make me feel much better about them.

            Not as at present anxious and worried for them and us.

            • Bill 12.2.1.1.1.1

              I just checked out the website and…yup, the Greens are playing down orsidelining AGW to quite an extent. The internal site links I found don’t appear to have been updated at all and aren’t exactly prominent. (three clicks away from their ‘priorities’ under ‘other’ and ‘climate change’ appears in an alphabetical list)

              The prominence (or lack of ) I could overlook if the information was up to date and pulled no punches. But, their ‘plan’ to cut emmissions by 40% by 2020 is woefully inadequate and tied in part to buying credits…ie, exporting emmissions. They also appear to miss the difference between cumulative emmissions (the real problem) and meaningless percentage reductions against a 1990 base year of measurements.

              • Jenny

                Thank you Bill

                • CV - Real Labour

                  Political parties will not provide any answers to this. Even if they want to, they can’t find a credible way to reduce energy use in our civilisation by 50% or more.

                  • Bill

                    Oh, there are plenty of credible ways to reduce and eliminate carbon emissions. The fly in the ointment is that there is no credible way to do it and preserve the market economy. So we can eliminate carbon and the market economy to preserve our civilisation or we can hang on to the market economy and lose everything. Pretty basic and straightforward.

                    • CV - Real Labour

                      Good point. To prepare for an intervention like this political leaders would need to actively engage the electorate in a media strategy and education programmes. Unfortunately all I can see them doing is reinforcing middle class expectations of economic growth, resource extraction, owning houses and debt management as the most important indicators of political success.

                    • Bill

                      A political leader – and no candidates spring to mind – could ride off the back of the World Bank climate report, the International Energy Agency report, Pricewaterhouse Coopers report, Stern’s reassessment of his 2006 report and other climate assessments from very conservative sources that are kind of floating down from on high a bit like confetti these days and run with it.

                      But, I agree that’s probably not going to happen and that the illusory line claiming we can have our cake and eat it will continue to be the order of the day.

                      At pains of repeating myself, change has only ever come from pressure being applied from below. And if that happens I can see it having to assume the characteristics of a wartime movement of concientious objection that embodies and begins to put into practice a number of ways to live that our present authorities won’t be exactly keen on. But them’s the breaks.

                    • CV - Real Labour

                      Those reports could be used as backing by a NZ Government however you will need at least some industry, business, transport, finance and ag leaders onboard. That’s the way it is in a democracy if you want to last long enough to get real changes through. A capital strike or another round of truckies down Queen St and the best of intentions disappear down the tubes real quick. A mass electoral movement is also handy but it would have to be a lot of people and they would have to be willing to put up with some pressure and hardship.

            • karol 12.2.1.1.1.2

              Jenny: What I said is that…..the Green Party are changing into just another social democratic party.

              Actually I’m not aware that you ever said that – just had a go at The Greens getting into the social democracy area. You have in several places criticised the Greens for down playing climate change.

              There are several ways that the Greens can up their game, including, as Bill points out below, updating their website on Climate Change.

              I also was not happy with the focus on Russel Norman as economic spokesperson, while the rest of the Greens’ agenda and MPs were not given so much focus. I’m hoping that Turei’s latest activities and speeches signal a change there.

              I should point you back to my comments about the Greens policies being an interlocking whole. And about the importance to environmental, resource and climate change policies in challenging the power and practices of the elites. Also my comments on the importance of building support and momentum, and communicating in a way that leads and carries people with them. The latter is important because constantly haranguing people about climate change at every opportunity can be counter-productive and just turn people off.

              Understanding of the issues, and how they relate to people’s daily lives, and practical measures need to be built over time. People already strongly associated the Greens with the environment and climate issues. As shown in this discussion, some people see that as their only issues.

              You said above:
              It is a glaring omission that since the departure of Jeanette Fitzsimons from their caucus, the Green Party have not put up one single private members bill relating to climate change.

              That is untrue. Most obviously, Russel Norman put up one that was debated in the House towards the end of last year: The Climate Change (NZ Superannuation Fund Bill.

              The Greens interlocking policies mean Climate Change is incorporated in a range of their policies, including the way we live and do business, the energy agriculture and forestry sectors, revenue issues, etc. (They should include their transport policies on that page, too).

              Last year the Greens put a lot of effort into the anti-asset sales (especially that of the power companies). Having control over this, and not giving the corporate world more control of these assets is essential to any approach to tackling climate change. The biggest roadblock on climate change is the powerful and well-funded campaign of the energy corporates and other wealthy people.

              I think it is an excellent approach to interweave approaches to tackling climate change in everything we do. Also, it’s necessary for the Greens to actively show the full scope of their policies.

              Yes there are ways they can improve, including pulling together, updating and explaining their policies on Climate in one easily accessible place – and clearly explaining how they are incorporated in all areas of their policies, values, democratic processes, and challenges to existing power structures. I see Kennedy Graham focused a lot lately on Kyoto and the emissions trading scheme. I understand that Kyoto was on the international agenda last year and in need of responses. I’m not greatly in favour of the ETS – it’s just of sop by capitalists to climate issues. He could focus more attention on other more useful policies.

              However, given the variety of pressures in working to put their interlocking and comprehensive approach into practice, I think the Greens are, at the moment, well ahead of any other left wing party.

              • Jenny

                You said above:
                It is a glaring omission that since the departure of Jeanette Fitzsimons from their caucus, the Green Party have not put up one single private members bill relating to climate change.

                That is untrue. Most obviously, Russel Norman put up one that was debated in the House towards the end of last year: The Climate Change (NZ Superannuation Fund Bill.

                karol

                I am embarrassed. My apologies. I was accessing Hansard and missed this. Well done Russel Norman. I hope for many more initiatives like this for the new parliamentary term.

                However I do take issue with your claim that the Green Party are “interweaving” climate change with all their other policies. It is much more than this. In fact it is burying it behind everything else. For the New Zealand Green Party Climate Change is not one of their election “priorities”. Climate Change is not even, one of the Green Party’s “Other priorities that we are focussing on…” As Bill confirms, climate change is included in an alphabetical list indistinguishable from 59 “Other issues”.

                This so called “interweaving” allows Green MPs to dodge any specific discussion, or promotion of “climate change” policies during the elections. If climate change policies are not promoted during the elections, they cannot be raised in government in any meaningful way.

                This and other things, signal to me that a huge sell out by the Green Party caucus is in the wings over Climate Change, equal to and exceeding the Maori Party caucus sell out over the Seabed and Foreshore and the Alliance caucus sell out over the war in Afghanistan, with the same dire consequences for their party.

                No doubt the Green leaders will ritually cite the “pressures of government” and the “realities of coalition” just as all their predecessors who have gone down this track have done.

                But we cannot afford to risk such a stupid and childish repeat of history. The stakes are just too high.

                This is why the Green Party must nail their policies on climate change to the mast where everyone can see them and they cannot be pulled down.

                This is why I continue to repeat Naomi Klein’s “tough-love message” for the Left, which in her words, “has failed to grapple with the seriousness and urgency of the climate crisis”.

                Yes, I will get it wrong some times and Yes, I will offend some people, for this I make no apologies.

                • karol

                  Apology accepted.

                  We are not going to agree on a matter of approach and strategy. It’s all very well standing on a soap box and doing a “tough love” thing. But it will achieve little if no-one of significance, or too few of the non-powerful take any notice. Sometimes the most direct route is not necessarily the best one to get where you are planning to go.

                  As I’ve said. As part of an approach to tackle climate change/warming, it’s necessary to counter the power of the elites. That is the KEY part of any strategy. I’m with Bill on thinking that it needs a significant amount of pressure from below.

                  The Greens can up their game, but already they are dismissed by many as too preachy, especially on environmental issues. Gordon Campbell on Turei’s speech.

                  Perennially, the Greens present themselves as a bunch of precocious fifth formers – bright, articulate, preachy and mildly annoying even at the best of times – and this year’s State of the Nation” speech by Greens Co-Leader Metiria Turei was no exception.

                  They have been busy trying to extend their platform and engage more with the wider public. This initiative to encourage people to join a “movement” is a step in the right direction, IMO. Of course, it all depends on how it is done as to how successful it will be.

                  Measures are needed to engage people in building understanding and momentum for change, to challenge and replace existing power structures and inequalities.

  13. Andre 13

    Greens will exceed 20% They are the’ android ‘ O/S of modern politics ….?

    • Andre 13.1

      Climate change has it own momentum ,the greens do not need to campaign on this . Proving they are able to deal with governance . Thats the campaign ..

      • Jenny 13.1.1

        Whoo hoo! Get ready for the long ride down.

        • bad12 13.1.1.1

          If you cannot stomach the Green Party in the way ‘it’ has decided to advocate for the enviroment then all i can suggest is that you spend your energy creating an alternative Green Party,(i am sure you might be able to tempt a few fundamentalists to join),

          The Green Party gains little traction by attempting to ram the enviromental message down the throat of the electorate while in opposition and would face a ‘backlash’ from trying to do the same in Government,

          What the electorate need are the Government programs which are enviromentally friendly to show them that they, (the electorate) can move with the economy to a more sustainable lifestyle and footing which have been proved to be sustainable to that enviroment, that economy, and, the comfortable lifestyle of the middle class need not be radically changed by adopting such policy…

        • Andre 13.1.1.2

          They also have the green conservatism and eco-capitalism vote too..

  14. GeoffC 14

    Look like the green have repackages recapsulates some of the element of the Just Third Way for there housing program.
    Something different from blairist or gideons third way interpretations of the next way.
    http://www.cesj.org/thirdway/paradigmpapers/jtw-greengrowth.pdf

    Basically involves a rethink on ownership and how everyone should be able to own capital and provide labour.
    Green putting into valid policy.

Links to post

Recent Comments

Recent Posts

  • Efeso Collins spoke in Parliament only yesterday on bill which will regulate social workers (and vot...
    Buzz from the Beehive Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and other party leaders have been paying tribute to Green MP Fa’anānā Efeso Collins, who collapsed and died during a ChildFund charity run in central Auckland this morning, . The event, near Britomart, was to support local communities in the Pacific. Collins, ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    6 hours ago
  • This is corrupt
    Earlier in the month, a panel of "independent" experts in Wellington produced recommendations for the future of housing in the city, and they were a bit shit, opposing intensification and protecting the property values of existing homeowners. Its since emerged that they engaged in some pretty motivated reasoning on the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    10 hours ago
  • Efeso Collins
    God, life can be cruel sometimes can’t it?If only everyone was like him. He was so very warm, so very generous, so very considerate, so very decent. Plenty of people have those qualities but I can think of hardly anyone I've met who had them as richly as he did.Let me ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    10 hours ago
  • CHRIS TROTTER:  Is applying “tough love” to a “fragile” nation the right answer?
      The Question Christopher Luxon Needs To Ask –  And Answer:  How was it possible for a nation of barely three million citizens to create and maintain an infrastructure that functioned, schools and universities that turned out well-educated and enterprising citizens, a health system that kept its people healthy, and a ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    10 hours ago
  • DON BRASH: Is an independent foreign policy really feasible?
    Don Brash writes – A week or so ago, Helen Clark and I argued that New Zealand would be nuts to abandon the independent foreign policy which has been a characteristic of New Zealand life for most of the last 40 years, a policy which has seen us ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    11 hours ago
  • YVONNE VAN DONGEN: So proud
    Ratepayers might well ask why they are subsidising people who peddle the lie that it is possible to be born in the wrong body and people can change sex. The preponderance of events advertising as ‘queer’ is a gender ideology red flag. Yvonne Van Dongen writes –  It ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    11 hours ago
  • S&P slams new Govt's council finance vacuum
    Wellington Water workers attempt to resolve a burst water main. Councils are facing continuing uncertainty over how to pay to repair and expand infrastructure. The Wellington Regional Council was one of those downgraded. File Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: Ratings agency Standard & Poor’s has downgraded the outlooks for ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    14 hours ago
  • Grant Robertson Resigns.
    Yesterday the man that I admire most in NZ politics called time.Around the middle of yesterday news began to filter out. People were posting unconfirmed reports that Grant Robertson was taking a new role as Vice-Chancellor at Otago Uni. Within an hour it became clear that he was indeed retiring ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    16 hours ago
  • Auckland’s City Rail Link will fail immediately… in the best possible way
    This post was originally published on Linked In by Nicolas Reid. It is republished here with permission. Here’s the thing: the City Rail Link is almost certainly going to be overcapacity from day one, with crowding on the trains at peak times. In the simple terms of popular transport ...
    Greater AucklandBy Greater Auckland
    16 hours ago
  • You can’t always get what you want
    Grant Robertson is leaving Parliament for two new careers, having been frustrated and blocked from achieving some of his biggest political ambitions. So, he is returning to Dunedin, and, unusually for a former finance minister, with seemingly no ambitions to enter the business world. Instead, he will become Vice Chancellor ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    18 hours ago
  • At a glance – Was Greenland really green in the past?
    On February 14, 2023 we announced our Rebuttal Update Project. This included an ask for feedback about the added "At a glance" section in the updated basic rebuttal versions. This weekly blog post series highlights this new section of one of the updated basic rebuttal versions and serves as a ...
    1 day ago
  • Sharp-elbowed and loving it
    It doesn't seem to take a lot to persuade someone who feels they work their guts out that in fact no one is working as hard as me.It doesn't seem to take a lot to persuade someone who knows somebody taking the welfare system for a ride that they’re all ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    1 day ago
  • Sharp-elbowed and loving it
    It doesn't seem to take a lot to persuade someone who feels they work their guts out that in fact no one is working as hard as me.It doesn't seem to take a lot to persuade someone who knows somebody taking the welfare system for a ride that they’re all ...
    More than a fieldingBy David Slack
    1 day ago
  • Then why did she do it?
    Earlier in the month, Cancer Minister Casey Costello was caught lying to the media about whether or not she had requested advice on cutting tobacco excise tax to benefit the cancer industry. She repeated her lies in Parliament. But today, she stood up and pretended to apologise for "causing confusion" ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 day ago
  • Is Applying “Tough Love” To A “Fragile” Nation The Right Answer?
    The Question Christopher Luxon Needs To Ask –  And Answer: How was it possible for a nation of barely three million citizens to create and maintain an infrastructure that functioned, schools and universities that turned out well-educated and enterprising citizens, a health system that kept its people healthy, and a workforce ...
    1 day ago
  • The limits to realism.
    Realism is a school of thought in the field of international relations (IR). It provides a theoretical framework for analysing the behaviour of States in the world political system. Like other theories (which in the IR literature include idealism, liberalism, … Continue reading ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    1 day ago
  • UNSOCIAL MEDIA – Following the Trolls
    From TODAY FM archives — Wilhelmina Shrimpton and Simon Morrow take a deep dive into trolling and cyberbullying. From the high profile to the general public, Kiwis across all walks of life are being targeted, and some are paying the ultimate price. So what drives us to troll, who is ...
    The PaepaeBy Peter Aranyi
    1 day ago
  • Govt prescribes stiff medicine for some beneficiaries while easing access to drugs containing pseudo...
    Buzz from the Beehive One of two new announcements on the government’s official website  – given plenty of publicity by the mainstream media over the past 24 hours – has been pitched as the first steps in a “reset” of the welfare system.  Stiff medicine for beneficiaries, in effect. The ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    1 day ago
  • We’re not as fragile or as lazy as Luxon says
    Luxon says his government is one that is “prepared to make those hard decisions”. File Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has adopted the language of Ruth Richardson before her 1991 ‘Mother of All Budgets’ in arguing for benefit sanctions to bolster the Government finances, which ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    1 day ago
  • Talking over the Silence.
    Please open the doorNothing is different, we've been here beforePacing these hallsTrying to talk over the silenceIf I was to describe what I do, or at least the way it sometimes feels, then talking over the silence wouldn’t be a bad way to do so.Not that there aren’t other voices ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    2 days ago
  • LINDSAY MITCHELL: National needs to go further
    Lindsay Mitchell writes – In today’s State of the Nation speech Christopher Luxon talked repeatedly about getting young people off welfare. It seems that National has devised a traffic light system which will use increasing levels of sanctions – welfare deductions – when beneficiaries fail to meet their ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago
  • Gordon Campbell on National spreading panic about the economy
    It is a political strategy as old as time. Scare the public with tales of disaster and stampede them into supporting your ideological agenda because they believe There Is No Alternative. Yet, if the NZ economy truly is as “fragile” as PM Christopher Luxon says it is… Then how come ...
    2 days ago
  • The promise of passive house design
    This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections by Sarah Wesseler Imagine a home so efficient that it could be heated with a hair dryer. That’s the promise of a passive house, a design standard that’s becoming increasingly popular in the architecture community for its benefits to occupants and the climate. ...
    2 days ago
  • Deep in the Uncanny Valley of AI
    Hi,Before we get started, some very big fun Webworm news. I am launching a new journalism fund called Big Worm Farm!A really great thing that’s happened with Webworm over the last four years is that it’s grown. That’s great for a few reasons.Firstly — it means the work here gets ...
    David FarrierBy David Farrier
    2 days ago
  • Introducing: Big Worm Farm
    Hi,I’m excited to tell you about Big Worm Farm.Put simply, the main aim of Big Worm Farm is to support investigative journalists from around the world to be able to devote dedicated time to research and report on a specific story, to be published on Webworm.The stories will capture the ...
    David FarrierBy David Farrier
    2 days ago
  • Why Massey is broke
    The Tertiary Education Commission has named the two universities it says are at high risk financially. They are Massey and Victoria. The Commission appeared before Parliament’s Education Select Committee yesterday and offered a revealing and rare insight into the complex world of university economics. Its Briefing to the Incoming Minister ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    2 days ago
  • You keep Luxin' when you oughta be thruthin'
    Christopher Luxon’s campaign to win last year's election continued yesterday with a speech.Channelling possibly Bruce Willis in Die Hard, he was all, I'm not going to dress it up, I'm going to level with you guys: the state of the nation is fragile.The thing he’s maybe missing is that it ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    2 days ago
  • The PM spoke of the need for tough choices – and then opted to beat a retreat when gays and Gaza a...
    Buzz from the Beehive The PM’s State of the Nation speech – according to a Newshub headline – was a ‘buffet of buzzwords’ and full of ‘nonsense’. Fair to say, the quoted words were attributed to Opposition politicians, who were unlikely to say the speech was visionary and inspiring: PM ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    2 days ago
  • Keynesian Wisdom.
    When the facts change, I change my mind - what do you do, sir?John Maynard Keynes (1883-1946)This posting is exclusive to Bowalley Road. ...
    2 days ago
  • BRIAN EASTON: Puffing policy
    Public policy towards tobacco consumption remains politically sensitive. Brian Easton writes – In 1983, a young researcher was told by a medium-level Treasury official that Treasury policy was to abandon excise duties on tobacco. The senior Treasury economist that I consulted, famed for his commonsense, snorted ‘we ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago
  • Is 2.8% per year population growth too much?
    TL;DR: The Government is reviewing migration settings that produced 2.8% population growth last year and is looking at a longer-term strategy of matching population growth to the ‘absorbtive capacity’ of Aotearoa-NZ’s infrastructure.Our population grew last year at its fastest rate since 1947, when large numbers of troops returning from World ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago
  • Tough Choices & Tough Love.
    I've been trying to hurt youI've been holding you tightI've been learning to love youAm I doing it right?How are you still breathingWith my hands all over your heart?How do we start healingIf we can't keep out the dark?Yesterday the Prime Minister delivered his State of the Nation, for no ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago
  • Will the 2024 RLTP be yet another debacle?
    A couple of years ago, Auckland Council and Auckland Transport found themselves in court over the 2021 Regional Land Transport Plan (RLTP). A non-profit alliance for transport decarbonisation, All Aboard Aotearoa, argued that among other factors, the RLTP was unlawful because it failed to give effect to the 2021 Government ...
    3 days ago
  • 2024 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #07
    A listing of 31 news and opinion articles we found interesting and shared on social media during the past week: Sun, Feb 11, 2024 thru Sat, Feb 17, 2024. Story of the week Based on mission alignment, our Story of the Week is certainly Can we be inoculated against climate ...
    3 days ago
  • Immigration Issues.
    Help is comingI heard a whisperWhite caps turningThe breath of summerA distant drummingAnd liar birds callingEscape the anguish of our pastAnd prayOne of the major challenges of the the 21st century will be the mass migration of human beings around our globe.Some seeking economic opportunities, others fleeing repressive regimes, war ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago
  • Trust us, we know what we’re doing
    The best trick the National Party ever pulled was to fabricate their reputation as the responsible ones.This would be the National Party that denied us the New Zealand Superannuation Scheme that—Brian Gaynor wrote back in 2007would be worth more than $240 billion today and would have transformed the New Zealand ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    4 days ago
  • The Left’s Timidity
    It is not just Karl Marx – even the most enthusiastic supporters of the market economy (not least Adam Smith) will concede that its normal operation inevitably leads to a concentration of wealth in relatively few hands. Some, at least, of these enthusiasts will accept that such a concentration is ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    4 days ago
  • OLIVER HARTWICH: Absurd – NZ courts can now decide on climate change
    Oliver Hartwich writes – The World Justice Project ranks New Zealand 7th out of 142 countries on its ‘Rule of Law Index’, narrowly ahead of Australia’s 13th place. However, Australia still has hope – if only because of a recent decision by the Supreme Court of New Zealand. The ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    5 days ago
  • Still waiting on that turnaround
    Hello! Here comes the Saturday edition of More Than A Feilding, catching you up on the past week’s editions.Friday: Week in review, quiz style2. Shane Jones’ demeanour in mocking and deriding climate activists can be observed in what other realm of human behaviour?a. Gleeful little boys pulling wings off fliesb. ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    5 days ago
  • Mihi Forbes and the great Atlas conspiracy
    Graham Adams writes — Last week, Mihingarangi Forbes made an extraordinary claim while interviewing David Seymour on Mata Reports, a taxpayer-funded current affairs programme which, she says, looks at events through an “indigenous lens”. She asked him about Act’s links to the Atlas Network, which fosters connections between centre-right ...
    Point of OrderBy gadams1000
    5 days ago
  • Puffing Policy
    Public policy towards tobacco consumption remains politically sensitive. In 1983, a young researcher was told by a medium-level Treasury official that Treasury policy was to abandon excise duties on tobacco. The senior Treasury economist that I consulted, famed for his commonsense, snorted ‘we need the money’. He explained that no-excise-duty ...
    PunditBy Brian Easton
    5 days ago
  • Luxon is one of three prime ministers pressing for a ceasefire in Gaza – but the two-state solutio...
    Buzz from the Beehive Two days after hundreds of people rallied outside the New Zealand parliament and the US embassy in Wellington to protest against what they maintain is genocide in Gaza,  Prime Minister Chris Luxon joined with the Prime Ministers of Australia and Canada to express their  concerns that ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    5 days ago
  • All jellied up with possum grease
    1. Shane Jones, addressing the energy industry, called climate concern what?a. The only sane responseb. Undeniably valid c. Our last best hope d. A "religion" 2. Shane Jones’ demeanour in mocking and deriding climate activists can be observed in what other realm of human behaviour?a. Gleeful little boys pulling wings off fliesb. Gleeful ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    5 days ago
  • Equality comes to Greece
    The Greek Parliament has voted for marriage equality: Greece has become the first Christian Orthodox-majority country to legalise same-sex marriage. Same-sex couples will now also be legally allowed to adopt children after Thursday's 176-76 vote in parliament. Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis said the new law would "boldly abolish a ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • CHRIS TROTTER:  Iron in her soul.
      “Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.” – Friedrich Nietzsche   Chris Trotter writes – TELEVISION NEW ZEALAND is to be congratulated for inviting Chloe Swarbrick onto its Q+A current affairs show. The Green MP ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    5 days ago
  • The Hoon around the week to Feb 16
    Net emigration of New Zealanders overseas hit a record-high 47,000 in the 2023 year, which only partly offset net immigration of 173,000, which was dominated by arrivals from India, the Philippines and China with temporary work visas. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The five things that mattered in Aotearoa’s ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    5 days ago
  • Stop Whispering.
    There's nothing to sayAnd there's nothing to doStop whispering, start shoutingStop whispering, start shoutingYesterday our government surprised a few of us by standing up for something. It wasn’t for the benefit of people who own holiday homes and multiple investment properties. Neither were there any tobacco companies or fishing cartels ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    6 days ago
  • “I'm Not Keen on Whataboutism, But What About…”
    Hi,Not sure how your week is going, but I’ve had a pretty frustrating one. I’ve been trying to put my finger on it, and I think it’s perhaps distilled in this message I got on Twitter:What got me a bit riled up is that it was a response to the ...
    David FarrierBy David Farrier
    6 days ago
  • Gordon Campbell on National passing bad policies under urgency
    If National really had faith in its welfare policies, it wouldn’t be ramming them through Parliament under urgency – a step that means the policies can’t be exposed to select committee debate, public submissions, expert commentary, media scrutiny and all the normal democratic processes that this coalition appears to hold ...
    6 days ago
  • Weekly Roundup 16-February-2024
    It’s Friday so once again here”s our roundup of some of the articles that caught our attention this week. This Week in Greater Auckland On Monday Matt looked at the Government’s war on Auckland. On Tuesday Matt covered the ongoing issues with the rail network. On Thursday Matt ...
    Greater AucklandBy Greater Auckland
    6 days ago
  • The Dawn Chorus for Friday, February 16
    The six things to note in my view at 6.30 am on Friday, February 16 in Aotearoa-NZ’s political economy are: Read more ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    6 days ago
  • Iron In Her Soul.
    “Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.” – Friedrich NietzscheTELEVISION NEW ZEALAND is to be congratulated for inviting Chloe Swarbrick onto its Q+A current affairs show. The Green MP for Auckland Central is the odds-on ...
    6 days ago
  • Dig this
    Resources Minister Shane Jones yesterday told a breakfast hosted by Energy Resources Aotearoa precisely what they wanted to hear. “We campaigned to rehabilitate relegitimise and stand up for working families who derive their income,  derive their hope and derive purpose in regional New Zealand through a flourishing, growing, forward-leaning energy ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    6 days ago
  • Skeptical Science New Research for Week #7 2024
    Open access notables Physics-based early warning signal shows that AMOC is on tipping course, van Westen et al., Science Advances: Here, we show results of the first tipping event in the Community Earth System Model, including the large climate impacts of the collapse. Using these results, we develop a physics-based and ...
    6 days ago
  • A rejection of the rule of law
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Shrugging-Off The Atlas Network.
    Upholding The Status-Quo: The Left’s election defeat is not the work of the Atlas Network. It is not even the work of David Seymour and Act. It is the work of ordinary citizens who liked the Right’s stories better than they liked the Left’s. If the Right’s stories were made ...
    6 days ago
  • BARRIE SAUNDERS: Treaty Principles – all rather problematic
    Barrie Saunders writes – When ACT’s leader said they wanted legislation to state what the Treaty principles mean, my first thought was this will be controversial and divisive.  Clearly it is. The first reference to the principles of the Treaty were contained in the 1975 Act establishing the Treaty of ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    6 days ago
  • Luxon Rejects The “Rejection Election” At His Peril.
    Fitting Right In: National retailed a reactionary manifesto of right-wing, racially-charged policies to the electorate throughout 2023. No talk back then of ignoring the overwhelming political preferences of the voting public and making a strong stand on principle. If Luxon’s pollsters and focus-groups were telling him that the public was ...
    6 days ago
  • Valentine’s Day went unnoticed on the Beehive website – but it is not “baa, humbug” to celeb...
    Buzz from the Beehive None of our ministers – a quick check with the Beehive website suggests – found cause to mention, let along celebrate, Valentine’s Day. But two ministers – Agriculture Minister Todd McClay and Rural Communities Minister Mark Patterson – ensured that National Lamb Day did not pass ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    6 days ago
  • Are You A Leftist?
    Nothing To Lose But Our Chains: The emancipatory movement which the Left, understood correctly, has always been, cannot accommodate those who are only able to celebrate one group’s freedom by taking it from another. The expectation, always, among leftists, is that liberty enlarges us. That striking-off a person’s shackles not ...
    6 days ago
  • An unlawful directive
    An interesting question in the Parliamentary written questions feed today, from Jan Tinetti to the Minister of Education: Has she or her Office directed the Ministry of Education to not release Official Information Act material prior to the full twenty working days, if so, why? Given that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • I’ve been doing this all wrong
    Here are six words that are not easy to say but god it can feel good when you finally say them:I’ve been doing this all wrongFive years ago today I said to myself:What if I'm doing this all wrong?Five years ago today I said to Karren: I think I’m going to ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    6 days ago
  • New study suggests the Atlantic overturning circulation AMOC “is on tipping course”
    This is a re-post from RealClimate by Stefan Rahmstorf A new paper was published in Science Advances today. Its title says what it is about: “Physics-based early warning signal shows that AMOC is on tipping course.” The study follows one by Danish colleagues which made headlines last July, likewise looking for early warning signals ...
    6 days ago
  • Drawn
    A ballot for five Member's Bills was held today, and the following bills were drawn: Parole (Mandatory Completion of Rehabilitative Programmes) Amendment Bill (Todd Stephenson) Goods and Services Tax (Removing GST From Food) Amendment Bill (Rawiri Waititi) Income Tax (ACC Payments) Amendment Bill (Hamish Campbell) ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Valentines from ACT.
    Some of us make a big deal out of Valentine’s Day. We’ll buy the flowers, eye watering though the price spike might be. Say the things we should be saying anyway, although diminished by being scheduled for delivery. Some of us will even write long free-form newsletters with declarations of ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    6 days ago
  • Tax cuts paid for by 13k more kids in poverty
    MSD advised the government that the indexation change it passed under urgency last night is likely to put around 7,000 extra children (and potentially up to 13,000) into poverty. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The Government has reverted indexation for main beneficiaries to price inflation from wage inflation under ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    7 days ago
  • Fuel Tax Fight and Rail Fail update
    The two stories we covered at the start of the week continue to be in the headlines so it’s worth looking at the latest for each of them. Regional Fuel Tax Mayor Wayne Brown promised some ‘argy-bargy’ over the government’s decision to cancel the Regional Fuel Tax and he’s ...
    7 days ago
  • Climate Change: Arsonists
    Today, a major fire broke out on the Port Hills in Ōtutahi. Like its 2017 predecessors, it is almost certainly exacerbated by climate change. And it is still burning. The present government did not start the fire. But they piled the tinder high last time they were in power, gutting ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • I don’t know!
    http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/73411 7 examples And who actually makes the decisions? Vladimir Putin: I don’t know. America is a complex country, conservative on the one hand, rapidly changing on the other. It’s not easy for us to sort it all out.   Tucker Carlson: Do you think Zelensky has the freedom to negotiate the settlement to this conflict? Vladimir Putin: I don’t know the details, of course it’s difficult for me to judge, but ...
    1 week ago
  • Fresh thinkers
    Fresh thinking will always give you hope.It might be the kind that makes you smite your brow, exclaiming: Why didn't we think of that! It's obvious!It might be the kind that makes you go: Dude you’re a genius.Sometimes it will simply be Wayne Brown handing Simeon Brown his weasel ass ...
    More than a fieldingBy David Slack
    1 week ago
  • It is not about age, it is about team.
    Much attention has been directed at Joe Biden’s mental lapses and physical frailty. Less attention has been spent on Donald Trump’s cognitive difficulties and physical limitations, with most focus being devoted to his insults and exaggerated claims (as if they … Continue reading ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    1 week ago
  • ROBERT MacCULLOCH: Fletcher Building – it is time to break up NZ’s most useless company.
    Robert MacCulloch writes –  Gosh, the CEO of Fletcher Building, Ross Taylor, says today’s announcement of a half-year loss of $120 million for the company is “disappointing” and was “heavily impacted” by the Convention Centre losses. He must be crying all the way to the bank (to quote Las ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    1 week ago
  • Mortgage rates seen high for even longer
    Government and borrower hopes for early mortgage cost relief look likely to be thwarted. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: Stronger-than-expected US inflation data out overnight is expected to delay the first US Federal Reserve rate cut into the second half of 2024, which in turn would hold mortgage rates ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    1 week ago
  • Member’s Day
    Today is a Member's Day, the first of the new Parliament. And to start the Parliament off, there's a bunch of first readings. A bunch of other bills have been postponed, so first up is Duncan Webb's District Court (Protecting Judgment Debtors on Main Benefit) Amendment Bill, followed by Katie ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Three Waters go down the legislative gurgler – but what should we make of Local Water Done Well?
    Buzz from the Beehive Local Government Minister Simeon Brown – it seems fair to suppose – was flushed with success after the repeal of Labour’s divisive and unpopular Three Waters legislation. As he explained, repealing this legislation is a necessary first step in implementing his government’s Local Water Done Well ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    1 week ago

  • PM shocked and saddened at death of Efeso Collins
    “I am truly shocked and saddened at the news of Efeso Collins’ sudden death,” Prime Minister Christopher Luxon says. “Efeso was a good man, always friendly and kind, and a true champion and advocate for his Samoan and South Auckland communities. “Our thoughts and deepest sympathies go to his family, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    10 hours ago
  • Greater support for social workers
    The Coalition Government is enhancing the professionalism of the social work sector and supporting the vulnerable people who rely on them, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says.  The Social Workers Registration Legislation Amendment Bill passed its third reading in Parliament today. It amends the Social Workers Registration Legislation ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • Government delivers greater freedom and choice for sick New Zealanders
    The coalition government is delivering on its commitment to making principled decisions by getting rid of red tape that doesn’t make sense and allowing sick New Zealanders greater freedom and choice to purchase effective cold and flu medicines. A bill amending the Misuse of Drugs Act 1975 is being introduced, and changes to the Medicines ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Government begins reset of welfare system
    The Coalition Government is taking early action to curb the surge in welfare dependency that occurred under the previous government by setting out its expectations around employment and the use of benefit sanctions, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. In 2017, 60,588 sanctions were applied to beneficiaries who ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • State of the Nation
    Ka nui te mihi kia koutou. Kia ora, good morning, talofa, malo e lelei, bula vinaka, da jia hao, namaste, sat sri akal, assalamu alaikum. Thank you for coming to my first State of the Nation as Prime Minister. Thank you for coming to a speech where I don’t just ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • West Coast tourism attractions officially open
    Regional Development Minister Shane Jones will attend the official opening of two highly anticipated tourism projects on the West Coast today – Pike29 Memorial Track, dedicated to the memory of the Pike River miners, and Pounamu Pathway. “The Pike29 Memorial Track is a way to remember and honour the men ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Independent ferry service advisory group in place
    Appointments to the Ministerial Advisory Group tasked with providing independent advice and assurance on the future of KiwiRail’s inter-island ferry service have been made, State Owned Enterprises Minister Paul Goldsmith says. “It’s important for New Zealand that KiwiRail is focused on ensuring safe, resilient, and reliable ferry services over the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Joint statement from the Prime Ministers of Australia, Canada, and New Zealand
    The Prime Ministers of Australia, Canada and New Zealand today issued the following statement on reports of Israel’s planned military operation in Rafah. We are gravely concerned by indications that Israel is planning a ground offensive into Rafah.   A military operation into Rafah would be catastrophic. About 1.5 million Palestinians ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Govt will deliver on expanded breast screening
    The coalition Government has made the first steps in delivering on its promise to  extend free breast screening to women aged 70-74, Health Minister Shane Reti says. “As part of the 100 day plan, the Government has now met with officials and discussed what is needed in order for the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Government announces woolshed roadshows in support of sheep farmers
    The Government celebrates National Lamb Day (15 February 24) and congratulates sheep farmers on the high-quality products they continue to produce. Agriculture Minister McClay hosted bipartisan celebrations of National Lamb Day with industry representatives at Parliament this week to mark the anniversary of the first frozen lamb exports that left ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Speech: Address to the NZ Economics Forum
    It’s great to be back at the New Zealand Economics Forum. I would like to acknowledge everyone here today for your expertise and contribution, especially the Pro Vice-Chancellor, Head of the Waikato Management School, economists, students and experts alike. A year has passed since I was last before you, and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Government tackling high construction costs
    The Government is focused on reducing sky-high construction costs to make it more affordable to build a home, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says.  Stats NZ data shows the cost of building a house has increased by 41 per cent since 2019, making housing even more unaffordable for Kiwi ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Labour’s Three Waters legislation repealed
    The Coalition Government’s legislative plan to address longstanding issues with local water infrastructure and service delivery took an important step today, with the repeal of Labour’s divisive and unpopular Three Waters legislation, Local Government Minister Simeon Brown says. “Repealing this legislation is a necessary first step in implementing our Local ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Cost of living support for beneficiary households
    The Coalition Government is delivering on its commitment to ease the cost-of-living by increasing main benefit rates in line with inflation and ensuring the Minimum Family Tax Credit threshold remains aligned with this change, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. The Social Security (Benefits Adjustment) and Income Tax ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Government announces agriculture delegations to better support Primary sector
    The coalition Government has announced ministerial delegations to support key areas across the Primary sector to deliver for New Zealand’s food and fibre sector, Agriculture Minister Todd McClay announced today. “I will be supported in my roles as Minister of Agriculture, Trade, Forestry and Hunting and Fishing, by three Associate ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Waikato MoU reinforces Govt’s commitment to increase NZ doctors
    The Government has taken an important step forward in addressing a critical shortage of New Zealand-trained doctors, with today’s signing of a Memorandum of Understanding for a third medical school, Minister of Health Dr Shane Reti has announced.  “Today’s signing by the Ministry of Health and the University of Waikato ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Speech – Lunar New Year 2024
    Annyeonghaseyo, greetings and welcome all. It is my pleasure as the Minister for Ethnic Communities to welcome you to the first Lunar New Year Event in Parliament. Thank you to our emcees for greeting us in the different languages that represent the many cultures that celebrate the Lunar New Year. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • More funding to Hawke’s Bay and Tairāwhiti
    Urgent work to clean-up cyclone-affected regions will continue, thanks to a $63 million boost from the Government for sediment and debris removal in Hawke’s Bay and Tairāwhiti.                                                                                                   The funding will help local councils continue urgent work removing and disposing of sediment and debris left from Cyclone Gabrielle.   “This additional ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Budget will be delivered on 30 May
    Plans to deliver tax relief to hard-working New Zealanders, rebuild business confidence and restore the Crown’s finances to order will be unveiled on 30 May, Finance Minister Nicola Willis says. The plans will be announced in the Budget which is currently being developed by Ministers.  “The last government’s mismanagement of ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Government advances Local Water Done Well
    The Coalition Government is continuing work to restore council ownership and control of water assets by repealing Three Waters and appointing a Technical Advisory Group to provide expert advice on the implementation of Local Water Done Well, Local Government Minister Simeon Brown says. “The Government will pass a bill to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Minister congratulates NZQA Top Scholars
    Education Minister Erica Stanford congratulates the New Zealand Scholarship recipients from 2023 announced today.  “Receiving a New Zealand Scholarship is a fantastic achievement and is a testament to the hard work and dedication the recipients have put in throughout the year,” says Ms Stanford.  “New Zealand Scholarship tests not only ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • New diplomatic appointments
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has today announced five new diplomatic appointments.  "Strong and effective diplomacy to protect and advance our interests in the world is needed now more than ever," Mr Peters says.  “We are delighted to appoint senior diplomats from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade to these ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Speech to the Committee for Auckland
    It is great to be here today at this event as Minister for Auckland and Minister ofTransport. Let me start by acknowledging each one of you and thanking the Committee forAuckland for hosting this event and inviting me to speak here today. The Committee for Auckland has been a symbol ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Getting Transport Back on Track in Auckland
    Transport Minister Simeon Brown has today confirmed his high-level transport priorities for Auckland, in the lead up to releasing the draft Government Policy Statement on Land Transport. “Our economic growth and productivity are underpinned by a transport network that enables people and freight to move around safely and efficiently. At ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Government to axe Auckland Regional Fuel Tax
    Transport Minister Simeon Brown has confirmed that the Auckland Regional Fuel Tax will end on 30 June 2024. “Today, I can confirm that the Government has agreed to remove the Auckland Regional Fuel Tax in line with our coalition commitments, and legislation will be introduced to parliament to repeal the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Minister Calls for Work to Tackle Kina Barrens
    Changes to fishing rules and a significant science programme are being undertaken to address kina barrens, says Minister for Oceans and Fisheries Shane Jones. “There has been tremendous interest from iwi, communities and recreational fishers who had raised concerns about such kina infestations being a major threat to Northland’s marine ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Government law and order crackdown begins
    The coalition Government is making good on its promise to restore law and order by removing government funding for Section 27 reports and abolishing the previous Labour Government’s prison reduction target, Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith and Corrections Minister Mark Mitchell say.  “In recent years, the development of Section 27 reports ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Greater focus on getting people into work
    The coalition government will refocus employment efforts and the welfare system so that supporting people who can work into jobs is the number one priority, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. “Of concern in the labour market statistics released by Stats NZ today was the number of youth not ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • One year on, NZ appeals for release of Phillip Mehrtens
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has appealed to those holding New Zealand pilot Phillip Mehrtens in remote Papua, Indonesia, to release him immediately.  Phillip Mehrtens was taken hostage a year ago on 7 February in Paro, Papua, while providing vital air links and supplies to remote communities. “We strongly urge those holding ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Ministers reaffirm Pacific connections this week
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters and Health Minister and Minister for Pacific Peoples Dr Shane Reti are reaffirming the importance of New Zealand’s connections to the Pacific by visiting Tonga, Cook Islands and Samoa this week.  “New Zealand enjoys strong and long-standing relationships with our Pacific partners - especially in Polynesia, where we ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Rt Hon Christopher Luxon – Waitangi speech
    E ngā mana, e ngā reo, e ngā iwi, rau rangatira ma. Tēnā koutou katoa. He tino mihi ki te mana whenua o tēnei rohe.  Mihi mai, mihi mai, mihi mai. Te whare e tū nei, tēnā koe.                               He-wāhi whakahirahira tēnei mō Aotearoa. Ka huri nga whakaaro, ki nga mate. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Government awards primary sector scholarships to students
    Six university students studying agriculture and science have been awarded scholarships as part of the coalition Government’s efforts to boost on-the-ground support for farmers and growers. “The coalition Government is committed to improving support and operating conditions for farmers and growers,” Agriculture Minister Todd McClay says. “We’re backing a range ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • High Court Judge appointed
    Attorney-General Judith Collins today announced the appointment of Wellington Barrister Jason Scott McHerron as a High Court Judge. Justice McHerron graduated from the University of Otago with a BA in English literature in 1994 and an LLB in 1996. From 1996 to 1999 he worked as a solicitor in the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 weeks ago
  • New Zealand provides further humanitarian support to Gaza and the West Bank
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has announced that New Zealand is providing a further $5 million to respond to the extreme humanitarian need in Gaza and the West Bank.  “The impact of the Israel-Hamas conflict on civilians is absolutely appalling,” Mr Peters says.  “That is why New Zealand has contributed $15 ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 weeks ago
  • Government consults on expanding COVID-19 Inquiry terms of reference
    The Government is delivering on its commitment to enable public input into expanding the scope of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into COVID-19 Lessons, says Internal Affairs Minister Brooke van Velden. “As committed to in both the ACT-National and NZ First-National coalition agreements, the public will be given the opportunity ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 weeks ago
  • Tai Tokerau Water Boost
    A further $5 million loan has been advanced to the Tai Tokerau Water Trust for Te Waihekeora Reservoir, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says.  “Water is a precious resource, Kānoa – Regional Development and Investment Unit at the Ministry of Business, Innovation, and Employment have done amazing work in the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 weeks ago
  • Fast track consenting in the fast lane
    The Government is progressing changes to resource management laws as part of its 100 Day Action Plan, with the first steps taken to establish a new fast-track consenting one-stop shop regime. “This new regime, which forms part of National’s coalition agreement with New Zealand First, will improve the speed and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 weeks ago

Page generated in The Standard by Wordpress at 2024-02-21T10:29:08+00:00